You assume that Castle won't pull a Jeffords or Specter by changing parties to get one of the key committee chairs the Dems will guarantee him if he flips.

That is exactly how they played Jeffords.

This may well take more than one cycle; it may take three, but we have to start somewhere.

Dave knows I'm right.  Notice, he still hasn't said how long he's been involved in politics... He doesn't know how the voters minds work yet.

Absolutely.

There's no way that an individual who has come straight out in this thread and clearly stated that America needs a ruling class, is going to seriously listen to the opinions of we little people.

 

New York Governors Primary.

With under 10% reporting Paladino the Tea Party Candidate leads Lazio the Republican Establishment Hack. 70% to 30%.

Beautiful pic...  Right click, save as....  

Just ask Dave if he still believes that the UAE does not produce oil.

 

Vote conservative in the primaries, Republican in the general election.

Bye bye RINO's.

He dismisses it all. Point taken. Best of luck to you Dave. Stay safe and thanks for your service.

FABULOUS, now the RINO supporters can just vote for the lesser or let a demoncrap win.......

No, they did NOT do a great job from 1996 to 2006.  They were warned repeatedly that they were in power for one reason and one reason only.  In 2000 I predicted that if the Republicans did NOT repeal the AW ban, did not secure the 2nd Amendment rights of the people and restrain the out of control Government, they would lose control of Congress in 2006.  It would be two years AFTER the sunset of the ban when gun owners had no fucking reason to bother voting for the asshats that made the promises... remember Gingrich and the Contract with America?... an never delivered.  Gun owners abandoned the Republican party because the Republicans were spineless.  They had a golden opportunity to secure control of Congress for years and they fucking snatched defeat from the jaws of victory once again.

Republicans are going to win Congress again this year.  Not because they are a better party, but because the Democrats really, really fucked up.  Hell, in half of the contested races, Jeffery Dahmer could run as a Conservative R and win... That's pretty sad.  I guarantee that this will most likely be the last time Republicans are given another chance.  The pendulum is swinging wildly now and our nation is fucked beyond all recognition because of the lesser of two evils bullshit.  

The incoming Congress had better unfuck some majore gun laws, reign in the BATFE, get a fucking firm grip on this out of control spending spree, and fucking begin to respect the People, the Flag and the Constitution before shit goes sideways in 99 directions at once.  People are at the end of their ropes with this bullshit from our elected Government.  This will be the last opportunity to repair the damage civilly.  This isn't a threat, it's a warning from someone who wants to grow old and die without having to have fought a war for freedom.  It's not the Governments right to dictate our freedoms and they better fucking get a clue before it's too late.  RINO's, Leftists, and flat out communists want a war here.  They are going to get it if the incoming Congress doesn't start respecting the citizens they represent.   We want a cap on the spending in Government.  We want the BATFE to be reigned in HARD...  no more batfe opinions.  State the law.  nothing more, nothing less.  We want the repeal of the Hughes Amendment without any bullshit amendments.  We want the repeal of the UnConstitutional "sporting purpose" clause without any bullshit amendments.  We want a total ban on Government bail outs of private industry at the cost of tax payers.  We want full disclosure of the histories of our candidates with no exceptions.  

AND WE WANT TERM LIMITS![/quote]

Well and good, but the Republicans won in 1994 because of the Contract with America as their positive promise, and the disgust with the Dems' corrup behavior and arrogance after 40 year in power as the negative the voters rejected. The Contract had nothing to do with guns or BATFE: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contract_with_America

Contents [hide]
1 Content of the Contract
1.1 Government and Operational Reforms
1.2 Major Policy Changes
2 Implementation of the Contract
2.1 The Fiscal Responsibility Act
2.2 The Taking Back Our Streets Act
2.3 The Personal Responsibility Act
2.4 The American Dream Restoration Act
2.5 The National Security Restoration Act
2.6 The "Common Sense" Legal Reform Act
2.7 The Job Creation and Wage Enhancement Act
2.8 The Citizen Legislature Act
2.9 Other sections of the Contract
3 Non-implementation of the Contract
4 Effects of the Contract
5 Notes
6 References
7 Sources

As much as it is blasphemy to say so here, not one voter in 100 even knows what the Hughes Amendment is, or cares much about BATFE.

The galvanizing issue of this election is not guns but spending and scope of government in general, as far as the average voter is concerned.
It is hard to find any Republican who campaigns on gun issues except to hint they might be better than the Democrat on that issue just to get our votes, with few exceptions. Inhofe? Demint? Coburn? Wo else?

Not to dis anyone here, but this election is not about guns. It is about the spending.

The courts are about guns, and we seem to be winning with regularity of late.

None of that is 'criminal' - there's nothing to prosecute...



And the overwhelming majority of America has NO 'saved dollars'.





 

What I'm saying is that your feel for politics doesn't equate to the national reality.



 

First off, people should back off Dave_A, he is one of the few in GD who will actually debate an issue.



Dave_A, answer me this: Who will the Castle votes go for in the general election?  Will the combined votes be enough to seat O'Donnell?

Does this also have the added benefit of scaring the crap of all RINO's?

God forbid that they now have to watch how they vote because their caucus will now hold them accountable come the primaries.

Formal involvement? Bush 04 campaign, Milwaukee Wisconsin office...





Army from 04-09 -> no formal politics while on Active Duty...





I've followed politics since about 96 or so...





Anyone who seriously considers a 'civil war' possible - let alone likely - is completely out of touch.





You would try to have a war, and no one would show to fight....





 

I know how I hope they will go.  Maybe I should restate my first sentence above.  Dave_A most closely follows liberal talking points which are a good practice against actual conversations we may find ourselves in out in the real world.  I appreciate seeing his responses so I know how to counter the talking point in real life.



He did echo Krauthammer plus some other right and left talking heads earlier in the thread.  Most of the time I agree with Krauthammer and he could still be right in this case, I don't know.



 

Well according to another thread the NRSC has said that they will provide her with no support in this election. It's nice to see the GOP stand together...

Some people have leadership skills... Others do not...



Such as the current President...



A man who's mother was a globe-hopping hippie, who himself was a roaming-gnome for most of his life... Yeah, great choice, right?



Seriously, there are plenty of folks here who would LOVE to put a 'Republican Obama' in the White House - a right-wing radical with no leadership skills and no qualifications....



That's unacceptable.
 

Many of the Castle votes will go to the Democrat.



The leftovers will give McDonnell about the 35-38% she got the LAST TIME she ran for Senate....



 

She can't win. It would be a waste of money.



Too many close races out there, that need the money/resources....





 

So the current "climate" of politics has no effect on Delaware?  I would say if that was her outcome last time, this time will put her on the other side of the pinnacle.  We have seen it time and again this year.  This is not your standard Ross Perot "third party" uprising.  This is a serious scream of "WAKE THE FUCK UP GOP OR WE WILL LEAVE YOU IN THE DUST!"



 

If that is the case then they will get no more money form me and I will call them and tell them such.

 

You exaggerate the 'climate' substantially.



She will get squashed.



Odds are currently 85/15 in favor of her opponent.
 

That's the same attitude that the GOP took with Cuccinelli last year but he still managed to win.

PALADINO WINS IN NY!

I remember hearing the same thing about Massachusetts but what happened...

"Republican Scott Brown Wins Kennedy Senate Seat in Massachusetts"

"G.O.P. Senate Victory Stuns Democrats - NY Times"

Can't never could do shit you know.

I just told him to let go.

What is that Dave? Oh that is right I can't hear you!

Kick the Rino's out!

Once again, Scott Brown IS A RINO.



That's why he won.
 

Yeah, I just saw Paladino won. Beat Lazio soundly. We averted another RINO run. Lazio had all the Republican establishment support too. He's got a tough go against Cuomo, but with the political climate the way it is I honestly think he has a shot.

We'll see...



If we end up 50/50 with DE going DEM, then I'll be right there to say I TOLD YOU SO!



 

I am going to ask you to provide a link to these published odds.  Otherwise, your comment is mere speculation.  I believe that the "climate" I referred to is in fact real and currently no one has developed a way to measure it except through the reality of the primaries again and again turning out anti-establishment.





 

Brown is a rino, but that fact is lost on every person who has quoted some variation of this same bullshit

You don't even know her name.

Well and good, but the Republicans won in 1994 because of the Contract with America as their positive promise, and the disgust with the Dems' corrup behavior and arrogance after 40 year in power as the negative the voters rejected. The Contract had nothing to do with guns or BATFE: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contract_with_America

Contents [hide]
1 Content of the Contract
1.1 Government and Operational Reforms
1.2 Major Policy Changes
2 Implementation of the Contract
2.1 The Fiscal Responsibility Act
2.2 The Taking Back Our Streets Act
2.3 The Personal Responsibility Act
2.4 The American Dream Restoration Act
2.5 The National Security Restoration Act
2.6 The "Common Sense" Legal Reform Act
2.7 The Job Creation and Wage Enhancement Act
2.8 The Citizen Legislature Act
2.9 Other sections of the Contract
3 Non-implementation of the Contract
4 Effects of the Contract
5 Notes
6 References
7 Sources

As much as it is blasphemy to say so here, not one voter in 100 even knows what the Hughes Amendment is, or cares much about BATFE.

The galvanizing issue of this election is not guns but spending and scope of government in general, as far as the average voter is concerned.
It is hard to find any Republican who campaigns on gun issues except to hint they might be better than the Democrat on that issue just to get our votes, with few exceptions. Inhofe? Demint? Coburn? Wo else?

Not to dis anyone here, but this election is not about guns. It is about the spending.

The courts are about guns, and we seem to be winning with regularity of late.[/quote]

It's about out of control Government.  Spending, Rights, Freedom.  We must have satisfaction across the board.  We are about to see a huge change in how politics works in our nation.

And yours does?  Please, share your experience.  I'm really interested in knowing just what you've done for our rights and helping to get the right people elected.

Like I said, my formal political experience is that I worked for Bush's campaign in 2004.



The guy who I quoted considers 'Civil War' a realistic probability if the anti-establishment crowd doesn't get their way...



That right there shows he's out of touch....



 

Dave, no offense but your a noob.  I've been politically involved since 1986.  I've served as a duly elected officer of my county Republican committee, I've lobbied before Congress, before state legislatures, I've been involved in far too many elections, I've seen wins and losses, I've stood up for our rights and have been spit on and ridiculed while continuing to fight.  

I've seen the best and the worst of people during elections.  In 2003 in Virginia, we ran a sign campaign that ended up on the receiving end of violence from the opposition.

Basically, in the last year an a half, there has been a very concerning change in people.  The comments, questions, and attitudes have shifted dramatically.  People no longer have a single shred of confidence in our elected officials.  People no longer feel respected by our elected officials.  They are tired of it.  

I don't want a war Dave, that is the last thing I want to see in our nation.  But if you were truly politically involved, you'd see what I've been seeing and what other people are seeing.  Frustration, desperation, dejection, anger, loathing.  It's all coming out now.  On the professional side, I'm an 02/07 SOT.  My company services civilian shooters, law enforcement and mlitary.  The so called usual suspects on ranting and raving have shut up.  All the bullshit coming from them is gone.  Now, I'm seeing concern, fear, apprehension, and talk out of most of the LE and military folks I deal with.  There has been a major shift and tension is growing.  

You can pretend it's not there and call anyone who gives warning crazy or whatever...  It's not going to change the fact that there is trouble brewing.  You of all people should realize how weak your argument is when you consider the mere existance of the Tea Party.  Tonight proved that they are a force to be reckoned with and there is a major purge of incumbants taking place.  

Look at what the RNSC has done, they are basically declaring war on Conservatives over the O'Donnell win.  This is another divide amongst many that we've been seeing.  Our nation can only fracture so far before it breaks.  

No Dave, I don't want a war.  That's why I've spent more than two decades fighting for our Rights... to prevent a war from happening.  I fear, that time spent was in vain.  The pendulum is swinging to the right again.  Given how hard it swung to the left, this backlash will be very strong.  

Watch, I bet somewhere in the nation tonight or tomorrow, you're going to see violence over the primaries that happened today.  It'll be against the Conservatives.  You're going to see something like shots fired at candidate HQ's, vandalism, threats, assaults, or a myriad of other such crimes.  Wanna bet that some of it will be from the "moderates" in the Republican party?

This thread has gone full retard.  Something you just should NOT do.

In 04 we had our office stormed, and our vans sabotaged - by the Dems of course...





I would not, in any sense, expect that from the GOP - even the moderate-to-liberal Republicans...





Folks will be pissed, but will settle for the I-told-you-so when she loses.



Further, your view in your part of VA most certainly does not spread across the country...



Especially placing anything related to the ATF as a major political issue...
 

He's less of a RINO than Olympia Snowe, Arlen Specter, Jim Jeffords are/were.  Mike Castle's voting record was indistinguishable from a Democrat's.  He was WORSE than Jim Jeffords, Arlen Specter, and Olympia Snowe.  

Scott Brown probably is the best we can do in Massachusetts, but Mike Castle is not the best we can do in Delaware.  

The same arguments that the RNSC used to support Arlen Specter over Pat Toomey are being trotted out against O'Donnell.  Look who is set to win in Pennsylvania.  The too-conservative Toomey has a statistically significant lead over Sistak.

And at the end of the day, here is the thing: you are better off having a strongly united minority than an ineffective majority that is held hostage by liberal members of the party at the margins.  Because the minority party can be obstructionist and prevent really bad legislation from getting through, while offering up an alternative in the next election.  The majority party gets the blame, so when you have an ineffective Republican majority that can't implement positive conservative policies, you lose on both sides.  You don't capture converts, and you don't motivate the base.  This election needs to be for the long haul, by investing in candidates that will pay us back.

A good turn-out from Upstate !  He's gonna have a tougher time against Cuomo, but I bet that fucker'll have a few sleepless nights now until
Nov 2nd.

It seems as if Dave_A disappeared after a request for facts was made.





 

Krauthammer just gave her a 10% chance of winning.  He said he hopes he's proven wrong, but he doesn't have high hopes for her.






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