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Not like there is any blood or violence in that book!!!

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More evidence that there is rarely rehabilitation accomplished in prisons.  In the words of a very famous prison warden from TX who I had the honor to hear speak, "We don't rehabilitate anyone.  We're a warehouse for the individuals society would rather not interact with."

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Not like there is any blood or violence in that book!!!

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Rehabilitation isn't possible....



If the experience of being a prisoner once or twice doesn't set 'em straight, then they need to be warehoused...



 

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I believe that he is right that- it uses state authority to promote a particular religion (Christianity). They should allow any similar religious book (ie. Koran, Talmud, Baghevad Gita, Dama Pada, etc...) as well- to accomodate prisoners of various sects.

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More evidence that there is rarely rehabilitation accomplished in prisons.  In the words of a very famous prison warden from TX who I had the honor to hear speak, "We don't rehabilitate anyone.  We're a warehouse for the individuals society would rather not interact with."

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i thought you were in prison specifically because your rights were taken away from you by a jury of your peers

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Criminal rehab is like addiction rehab. It only works if you really want it to and even then without 100% certainty.

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I want to see court documents that they were not. The OP is fishing (for about the fiftieth time), and it only works when people take the hook.

If I were a gambling man, I'd wager that that the offended prisoner got mad that they wouldn't let him get Hustler, but the "churchies" could order a New Testament. When they asked 1st Sgt. Billy Joe Jim Bob about it he stated, “they can only get Bibles”, probably because no one had ever asked him for a Talmud before. In this day & age, I simply do not believe that a prison anywhere in this country would dare to deny an inmate his holy book of choice.

Prove me wrong, and I will gladly admit it.

2. Rejection of Books and Magazines
23. Defendants have refused to deliver every book and every magazine that Plaintiffs have sent to detainees at the Detention Center. Since 2008, Plaintiffs have sent copies of Prison Legal News to at least nine detainees and books to at least three detainees. The publications often have been returned to sender, and Plaintiffs have never received any confirmation that a publication was delivered.
24. Among the books sent by Plaintiffs but rejected by the Detention Center was Protecting Your Health & Safety. Prison Legal News distributes Protecting Your Health & Safety under a contract with the Southern Poverty Law Center, which publishes the book. The Southern Poverty Law Center’s website describes Protecting Your Health and Safety as follows: “Designed to help inmates who are not represented by an attorney, Protecting Your Health & Safety explains the legal rights inmates have regarding health and safety – including the right to medical care and to be free from inhumane treatment.”
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25. Acting pursuant to policies established, maintained, and enforced by Defendants DeWitt, McElvogue, and Riley, John Doe Defendants 1-4 refused to deliver issues of books and magazines sent by Plaintiffs, returning or discarding such materials.
26. The ban on publications also prevents Plaintiffs from sending to detainees the Prisoners’ Self-Help Litigation Manual, a book published by Oxford University Press and distributed by Plaintiffs. Widely used by prisoners and attorneys who represent prisoners, the book is described by Oxford University Press as an “indispensable guide for prisoners and prisoner advocates seeking to understand the rights guaranteed to prisoners by law and how to protect those rights. Clear, comprehensive, practical advice provides prisoners with everything they need to know on conditions of confinement, civil liberties in prison, procedural due process, the legal system, how to litigate, conducting effective legal research, and writing legal documents.”
27. Prison Legal News, and the books distributed by Plaintiffs that the Detention Center prohibits, constitute core protected speech, which is not objectionable on security or any other grounds. All of the books sent by Plaintiffs to detainees at the Detention Center had soft covers. All of the copies of Prison Legal News sent to detainees at the Detention Center had soft cover-pages and no covers.

THIRD CAUSE OF ACTION
Discriminatory Censorship of Books, Magazines, and Letters on the Basis of Religion
Establishment Clause (First Amendment)
Injunctive and Declaratory Relief and Compensatory and Punitive Damages
65. Defendants have a policy of prohibiting detainees from receiving in the mail any publications or books other than the Bible. Such policy was established, maintained, and enforced by Defendants DeWitt, McElvogue, and Riley, and carried out by John Doe Defendants 1-4, who refused to deliver books, magazines, and letters sent by Plaintiffs to detainees.
66. Such policy discriminates against Plaintiffs on the basis of religion and violates the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment. The books, magazines, and letters that Plaintiffs send to incarcerated persons are secular in nature and pose no threat to Detention Center security. 67. There is no rational, non-discriminatory reason to differentiate between the Bible and the
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books and magazines sent by Plaintiffs. There is likewise no rational, non-discriminatory reason to differentiate between the Bible and letters sent by Plaintiffs.
68. Defendants’ policy of banning all publications other than the Bible, and refusing to deliver Plaintiffs’ letters, violates the Establishment Clause, both facially and as applied to Plaintiffs.
69. In banning all publications other than the Bible, and refusing to deliver Plaintiffs’ letters, Defendants acted under color of state law for purposes of 42 U.S.C. § 1983.
70. In banning all publications other than the Bible, and refusing to deliver Plaintiffs’ letters, Defendants violated clearly established constitutional law and therefore are not entitled to qualified immunity.
71. Plaintiffs have suffered damages as a result of the Detention Center’s policy of banning all publications other than the Bible, including violation of constitutional rights; loss of potential subscribers and customers; loss of subscription, sales, and advertising revenue; loss of reputation; costs of printing, handling and mailing materials; costs of staff time; and other damages to be shown at trial.
72. Punitive damages are warranted as to this claim because each Defendant’s conduct was motivated by evil motive or intent, involved reckless or callous indifference to the federally protected rights of Plaintiffs, intentionally violated federal law, or involved ill will, a desire to injure, and malice. Defendants’ conduct is of the sort that calls for deterrence and punishment over and above that provided by compensatory awards.
73. Defendants’ conduct set forth herein constitutes an ongoing violation of Plaintiffs’ rights under the First and Fourteenth Amendments, subjecting them to irreparable harm and entitling them to injunctive relief.

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Giving prisoners only a Bible to read, implys that only the Bible can rehabilitate a prison.

The State is establishing the Bible and Christian Religion as a correctional tool, which is not only unconstitutional but immoral.

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Giving prisoners only a Bible to read, implys that only the Bible can rehabilitate a prison.



The State is establishing the Bible and Christian Religion as a correctional tool, which is not only unconstitutional but immoral.

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Jail, prison, same thing.

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I fail to see the problem. If there is one book that can change your life, it's the Bible.

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I fail to see the problem. If there is one book that can change your life, it's the Bible.

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I fail to see the problem. If there is one book that can change your life, it's the Bible.

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We wouldnt want the accused to have a book that explains their basic legal rights in terms they would understand.

http://www.amazon.com/Law-Dummies-John-Ventura/dp/0764558307/ref=pd_bxgy_b_img_c#_

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There should be no books (religious or otherwise), tv, music or anything...its fucking prison.



I say chain em to a wall and feed em bread and water, but eh, I might be a little old school.

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Ever read a thread before commenting?





THIS IS JAIL AND NOT A PRISON.



JAILS HOLD PEOPLE NOT YET CONVICTED OF A CRIME.



PRISONS ARE MADE TO HOLD PEOPLE CONVICTED OF CRIMES.

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I'm almost 100% certain that the policy doesn't exclude the Quran, Book of Mormon, etc.  

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Rehabilitation isn't possible....

If the experience of being a prisoner once or twice doesn't set 'em straight, then they need to be warehoused...