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Posted: 11/1/2010 6:45:01 PM EDT
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I'm still trying to find predictions and polls from before the 94 election, to compare it to this year. Wondering if the Dems knew or had an inkling of what was coming.
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Quoted: I'm still trying to find predictions and polls from before the 94 election, to compare it to this year. Wondering if the Dems knew or had an inkling of what was coming. Not finding much No, they did'nt really...it was quite a shock to the whole country. It was referendum on Bill Clinton who then turned "moderate" after the dems got completely smoked. Obama is no Slick Willy..he has nothing in hs background that is remotely partisan or moderate. He is on the way out and he knows in his heart. Socialism will never work in America...this election is about Obama and the great thing is the polls are higher for Reps now than were then..by far. |
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Quoted: I'm still trying to find predictions and polls from before the 94 election, to compare it to this year. Wondering if the Dems knew or had an inkling of what was coming. Not finding much Clinton took a poll to find out if he should wipe his ass with his left or right intern. He knew what was coming and any dem in the loop did too. I don't think 0 knows how bad it's going to be, even though he knows he's gonna lose the house. The mood of the country is far more pissed off today than in 94 who knows what's going to happen but it will be interesting. |
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if my memory serves me...Newt Gingrich kicked some major liberal ass..... |
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It is eerie how that video is so much like what is happening now...
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Quoted: Bob dole sure blinks a lot. I would blink a lot too if I were an infantry officer in Italy who got my "ass shot off" by an Mg42. ![]() ETA: I have took offense to any affront towards Dole sine those elections. It was was good liberal humor then to make fun of his "useless arm". Which is fucked up. Maybe that was not your intention, so maybe you should clarify... |
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Clinton was pushed to the left by his Congress. When he had a loyal opposition he was able to take a more centrist approach.
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Quoted: Quoted: Bob dole sure blinks a lot. I would blink a lot too if I were an infantry officer in Italy who got my "ass shot off" by an Mg42. ![]() Sensitive much? |
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And the republicans cut spending,shrank the size of government,increased personal liberties,and went bact to only doing what the Constitution authorized,and we all lived happily ever after untile those damn democrats took power again.
And the cycle repeats....... |
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Quoted: Quoted: I'm still trying to find predictions and polls from before the 94 election, to compare it to this year. Wondering if the Dems knew or had an inkling of what was coming. Not finding much No, they did'nt really...it was quite a shock to the whole country. It was referendum on Bill Clinton who then turned "moderate" after the dems got completely smoked. Obama is no Slick Willy..he has nothing in hs background that is remotely partisan or moderate. He is on the way out and he knows in his heart. Socialism will never work in America...this election is about Obama and the great thing is the polls are higher for Reps now than were then..by far. So if this was not expected can you name me more than a couple mid-term elections where the president's party did not loose ground. This is historically EXACTLY what happens at this time in a president's term. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Bob dole sure blinks a lot. I would blink a lot too if I were an infantry officer in Italy who got my "ass shot off" by an Mg42. ![]() Sensitive much? I ETA'd to clarify and your response spells out your intent pretty clearly. |
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Bob dole sure blinks a lot. I would blink a lot too if I were an infantry officer in Italy who got my "ass shot off" by an Mg42. ![]() ETA: I have took offense to any affront towards Dole sine those elections. It was was good liberal humor then to make fun of his "useless arm". Which is fucked up. Maybe that was not your intention, so maybe you should clarify... OCS graduate. True story. Of course, it sucked more then. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Bob dole sure blinks a lot. I would blink a lot too if I were an infantry officer in Italy who got my "ass shot off" by an Mg42. ![]() ETA: I have took offense to any affront towards Dole sine those elections. It was was good liberal humor then to make fun of his "useless arm". Which is fucked up. Maybe that was not your intention, so maybe you should clarify... OCS graduate. True story. Of course, it sucked more then. Yep', 10th Mountain? |
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Quoted: if my memory serves me...Newt Gingrich kicked some major liberal ass..... With the SAME EXACT ideas that they are presenting now. I wonder if any one can tell me a difference between the failed contract with America and the current list of demands they have. They came in in '94 on the wings of "TERM LIMITS!!!" and then all of those guys said they "still had wok to do" when held up to their promises. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Bob dole sure blinks a lot. I would blink a lot too if I were an infantry officer in Italy who got my "ass shot off" by an Mg42. ![]() Sensitive much? I ETA'd to clarify and your response spells out your intent pretty clearly. My intent was to observe that he blinks a lot. I didn't think making an observation was an insult. Lighten up. |
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Here's what happened in '96 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/12/ElectoralCollege1996.svg Just saying... I still can't believe that AZ went for Clinton. I'm still embarrassed by that. |
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I remember they ended life long welfare...
my sister in law cried.... she now works for a living.. |
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if my memory serves me...Newt Gingrich kicked some major liberal ass..... With the SAME EXACT ideas that they are presenting now. I wonder if any one can tell me a difference between the failed contract with America and the current list of demands they have. They came in in '94 on the wings of "TERM LIMITS!!!" and then all of those guys said they "still had wok to do" when held up to their promises. But but but this time will be different.They gave us a pledge and everything! |
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Yep', 10th Mountain? I don't remember. I just noticed that I have my tank icon. ![]() |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'm still trying to find predictions and polls from before the 94 election, to compare it to this year. Wondering if the Dems knew or had an inkling of what was coming. Not finding much No, they did'nt really...it was quite a shock to the whole country. It was referendum on Bill Clinton who then turned "moderate" after the dems got completely smoked. Obama is no Slick Willy..he has nothing in hs background that is remotely partisan or moderate. He is on the way out and he knows in his heart. Socialism will never work in America...this election is about Obama and the great thing is the polls are higher for Reps now than were then..by far. So if this was not expected can you name me more than a couple mid-term elections where the president's party did not loose ground. This is historically EXACTLY what happens at this time in a president's term. Sure but they historically only lose about 10 seats since 1970..and this was the first time in 40 years that Dems lost control of the House..and were mauled by 52 losses in 1994. There has NEVER been a loss of this magnitude since the late 1800's..so this was a bell weather against a President and not the congress. Today/tomorrow is still going to be big..how big? More than 39 seats for sure. I think you might re-read some history concerning the actual vote deficits in off election years. |
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Things got a lot better in this country after those elections. I hope it happens again.
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Quoted: Quoted: if my memory serves me...Newt Gingrich kicked some major liberal ass..... With the SAME EXACT ideas that they are presenting now. I wonder if any one can tell me a difference between the failed contract with America and the current list of demands they have. They came in in '94 on the wings of "TERM LIMITS!!!" and then all of those guys said they "still had wok to do" when held up to their promises. And stopped Welfare as we had known it since Roosevelt,,the contract was not the 10 commandments but a blue print of what they wuld work on and they did that. Hope and Change is Bull and is sh*t..the whole country knows that now and there will be enough new faces in the House to keep anything else from being shoved down our throats..maybe. This is a win for America. |
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if my memory serves me...Newt Gingrich kicked some major liberal ass..... With the SAME EXACT ideas that they are presenting now. I wonder if any one can tell me a difference between the failed contract with America and the current list of demands they have. They came in in '94 on the wings of "TERM LIMITS!!!" and then all of those guys said they "still had wok to do" when held up to their promises. But but but this time will be different.They gave us a pledge and everything! So you are voting Democrap? |
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Quoted: o rly?Quoted: Quoted: I'm still trying to find predictions and polls from before the 94 election, to compare it to this year. Wondering if the Dems knew or had an inkling of what was coming. Not finding much No, they did'nt really...it was quite a shock to the whole country. It was referendum on Bill Clinton who then turned "moderate" after the dems got completely smoked. Obama is no Slick Willy..he has nothing in hs background that is remotely partisan or moderate. He is on the way out and he knows in his heart. Socialism will never work in America...this election is about Obama and the great thing is the polls are higher for Reps now than were then..by far. So if this was not expected can you name me more than a couple mid-term elections where the president's party did not loose ground. This is historically EXACTLY what happens at this time in a president's term. http://uspolitics.about.com/od/usgovernment/l/bl_party_division_2.htm |
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I remember that morning. The newscasters acted like their dog had just died. My mom was in shock.
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if my memory serves me...Newt Gingrich kicked some major liberal ass..... With the SAME EXACT ideas that they are presenting now. I wonder if any one can tell me a difference between the failed contract with America and the current list of demands they have. They came in in '94 on the wings of "TERM LIMITS!!!" and then all of those guys said they "still had wok to do" when held up to their promises. But but but this time will be different.They gave us a pledge and everything! So you are voting Democrap? Nope.never have and more than likely never will.Voted for Ross Perot and Ron Paul though........ |
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Quoted: Quoted: o rly?Quoted: Quoted: I'm still trying to find predictions and polls from before the 94 election, to compare it to this year. Wondering if the Dems knew or had an inkling of what was coming. Not finding much No, they did'nt really...it was quite a shock to the whole country. It was referendum on Bill Clinton who then turned "moderate" after the dems got completely smoked. Obama is no Slick Willy..he has nothing in hs background that is remotely partisan or moderate. He is on the way out and he knows in his heart. Socialism will never work in America...this election is about Obama and the great thing is the polls are higher for Reps now than were then..by far. So if this was not expected can you name me more than a couple mid-term elections where the president's party did not loose ground. This is historically EXACTLY what happens at this time in a president's term. http://uspolitics.about.com/od/usgovernment/l/bl_party_division_2.htm I think our poli-sci student did a drive-by and left. ![]() I sure wish folks would do more reading of historical docs instead of reading liberal blogs. |
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The Dems and the Repubs are both fags.
The Repubs are more like lipstick lesbians, while the Dems are more of the Brokeback Mountain variety. I've been voting in every election since I voted for Reagan's re-election...and with each election I find it harder and harder to hold my nose and walk in the booth. |
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Quoted: Your right last time it was just a contract that every one signed....Quoted: Quoted: if my memory serves me...Newt Gingrich kicked some major liberal ass..... With the SAME EXACT ideas that they are presenting now. I wonder if any one can tell me a difference between the failed contract with America and the current list of demands they have. They came in in '94 on the wings of "TERM LIMITS!!!" and then all of those guys said they "still had wok to do" when held up to their promises. But but but this time will be different.They gave us a pledge and everything! |
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Quoted: Quoted: Your right last time it was just a contract that every one signed....Quoted: Quoted: if my memory serves me...Newt Gingrich kicked some major liberal ass..... With the SAME EXACT ideas that they are presenting now. I wonder if any one can tell me a difference between the failed contract with America and the current list of demands they have. They came in in '94 on the wings of "TERM LIMITS!!!" and then all of those guys said they "still had wok to do" when held up to their promises. But but but this time will be different.They gave us a pledge and everything! Hey JlP..you were wrong..go back up and re-read. |
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Here's what happened in '96 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/12/ElectoralCollege1996.svg Just saying... Please. We were running Viagraman for president. Inspiration was exactly existent at the time. McCain was a million times more inspiring, and he was uninspiring. I was rooting for Dole, but I wanted Clinton to go away a lot more than I wanted Dole in. Kinda like how I wanted Obama to not win a lot more than I wanted McCain to win. That really doesn't work well. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Your right last time it was just a contract that every one signed....Quoted: Quoted: if my memory serves me...Newt Gingrich kicked some major liberal ass..... With the SAME EXACT ideas that they are presenting now. I wonder if any one can tell me a difference between the failed contract with America and the current list of demands they have. They came in in '94 on the wings of "TERM LIMITS!!!" and then all of those guys said they "still had wok to do" when held up to their promises. But but but this time will be different.They gave us a pledge and everything! Hey JlP..you were wrong..go back up and re-read. Wrong on what??.. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Your right last time it was just a contract that every one signed....Quoted: Quoted: if my memory serves me...Newt Gingrich kicked some major liberal ass..... With the SAME EXACT ideas that they are presenting now. I wonder if any one can tell me a difference between the failed contract with America and the current list of demands they have. They came in in '94 on the wings of "TERM LIMITS!!!" and then all of those guys said they "still had wok to do" when held up to their promises. But but but this time will be different.They gave us a pledge and everything! Hey JlP..you were wrong..go back up and re-read. Wrong on what??.. On everything..re-read your anecdotal from 1994, I supplied the results from that year. You were wrong. There has never been a loss of 52 seats since the late 1800's..and no turn over of the house in 40 years. |
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I remember that... shame they squandered those victories. ![]() Yes, and they will again. |
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I remember the night of carnage
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I don't remember but what was the balance of Repubs to Dems for the 94 election? I think the difference now is that the Dems may have a bigger margin now so will take a greater election shift on election day for the Repubs to have a greater margin of power.
Still the Senate is gonna be iffy. Even if the Repubs win that to it'll only be by one or two. The RINOs will effectively affect that slight margin. |
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O On everything..re-read your anecdotal from 1994, I supplied the results from that year. You were wrong. There has never been a loss of 52 seats since the late 1800's..and no turn over of the house in 40 years. In 1948 the Dems gained 75 seats in the house. Harry Truman called them the "do nothing" congress and made it stick. This is one of the only advantages to growing old. |
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Quoted: Here's what happened in '96 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/12/ElectoralCollege1996.svg Just saying... This ain't the '90s anymore, bro. Times have changed. We're in uncharted territory. I wouldn't be so pessimistic about 2012 just yet. Who the Republican candidate is in 2012 will have a much greater bearing on the outcome than anything that happens tomorrow IMO. |
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Here's what happened in '96 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/12/ElectoralCollege1996.svg Just saying... This ain't the '90s anymore, bro. Times have changed. We're in uncharted territory. I wouldn't be so pessimistic about 2012 just yet. Who the Republican candidate is in 2012 will have a much greater bearing on the outcome than anything that happens tomorrow IMO. Woo lets go Sarah! |
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Quoted: Originally Posted By ––bullseye––: Quoted: Here's what happened in '96 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/12/ElectoralCollege1996.svg Just saying... This ain't the '90s anymore, bro. Times have changed. We're in uncharted territory. I wouldn't be so pessimistic about 2012 just yet. Who the Republican candidate is in 2012 will have a much greater bearing on the outcome than anything that happens tomorrow IMO. Woo lets go Sarah! You can get excited about 2012 maybe...Republicans are going to clean house in Wisconsin this year though. Feingold is all but gone, and it's a very good possibility the 7th and 8th districts turn red. Doyle is finally on the outs, and Barrett has a snowballs chance... I'm just worried about shenanigans at the polls...in some ways it's too easy to vote in this state.
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Originally Posted By ––bullseye––:
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Here's what happened in '96 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/12/ElectoralCollege1996.svg Just saying... This ain't the '90s anymore, bro. Times have changed. We're in uncharted territory. I wouldn't be so pessimistic about 2012 just yet. Who the Republican candidate is in 2012 will have a much greater bearing on the outcome than anything that happens tomorrow IMO. Woo lets go Sarah! You can get excited about 2012 maybe...Republicans are going to clean house in Wisconsin this year though. Feingold is all but gone, and it's a very good possibility the 7th and 8th districts turn red. Doyle is finally on the outs, and Barrett has a snowballs chance... I'm just worried about shenanigans at the polls...in some ways it's too easy to vote in this state. The only good thing about Walker winning is WI will finally get CCW. ![]() |
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