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Posted: 9/27/2011 1:40:49 AM EDT
I can not find one with a higher resolution, but still neat. Europe likes its war.  |
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Posted: 9/27/2011 1:43:31 AM EDT
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I'd like to see one going farther back than AD. Pretty interesting stuff.
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Posted: 9/27/2011 2:38:14 AM EDT
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Meh. You think there were no wars in North and South America or Africa for the first 600 years of the last millenium?
Those cultures were simply too backwards or weak to have their history chronicled. |
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Posted: 9/27/2011 6:57:15 AM EDT
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Neat animation idea, but it looks like the author thinks that the Americas & the Far East had no warfare for 500-600 years.
eta –– Or, as the poster above also noted, Africa. |
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Posted: 9/27/2011 7:06:07 AM EDT
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Quoted: Neat animation idea, but it looks like the author thinks that the Americas & the Far East had no warfare for 500-600 years. eta –– Or, as the poster above also noted, Africa. Recording those wars I assume is difficult. At least in the Far East and Americas. |
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Posted: 9/27/2011 7:07:40 AM EDT
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The Roman Empire and the Japanese Shoguns really kept things stirred up, didn't they?
 Imperialist assholes. |
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Posted: 9/27/2011 7:07:58 AM EDT
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It those white Europeans fault...
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Posted: 9/27/2011 7:11:10 AM EDT
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It those white Europeans fault... This, worthless crap |
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Posted: 9/27/2011 7:11:46 AM EDT
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Cool!
The native peoples of Africa, N & S America were in a constant state of brutal tribal warfare, it is just overlooked because we are supposed to admire those cultures. |
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Posted: 9/27/2011 7:14:04 AM EDT
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Meh. You think there were no wars in North and South America or Africa for the first 600 years of the last millenium? Those cultures were simply too backwards or weak to have their history chronicled. No written language skills and your defeated enemy ending up on the grill had a lot to do with it. |
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Posted: 9/27/2011 7:19:32 AM EDT
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Severe disappoint. One naturally expects the explosion graphics to morph into mushroom-cloud-shapes at the appropriate time and place. It was not delivered.
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Posted: 9/27/2011 7:32:17 AM EDT
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Quoted: Cool! The native peoples of Africa, N & S America were in a constant state of brutal tribal warfare, it is just overlooked because we are supposed to admire those cultures. More likely it's a lack of documentation. |
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Posted: 9/27/2011 7:41:03 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Cool! The native peoples of Africa, N & S America were in a constant state of brutal tribal warfare, it is just overlooked because we are supposed to admire those cultures. More likely it's a lack of documentation. Pretty much this. It has nothing to do with admiring anybody or being overlooked. |
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Posted: 9/27/2011 7:48:36 AM EDT
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Cool! The native peoples of Africa, N & S America were in a constant state of brutal tribal warfare, it is just overlooked because we are supposed to admire those cultures. More likely it's a lack of documentation. This animation just proves that Europeans are superior record keepers. |
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Posted: 9/27/2011 7:51:54 AM EDT
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Im the Grim Darkness of the future always, there is only war.
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Posted: 9/27/2011 8:03:41 AM EDT
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Japanese and Chinese didn't keep records?
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Cool! The native peoples of Africa, N & S America were in a constant state of brutal tribal warfare, it is just overlooked because we are supposed to admire those cultures. More likely it's a lack of documentation. Pretty much this. It has nothing to do with admiring anybody or being overlooked. |
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Posted: 9/27/2011 8:10:07 AM EDT
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Europe wins again!
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Posted: 9/27/2011 8:10:38 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Cool! The native peoples of Africa, N & S America were in a constant state of brutal tribal warfare, it is just overlooked because we are supposed to admire those cultures. More likely it's a lack of documentation. Pretty much this. It has nothing to do with admiring anybody or being overlooked. You don't think a lack of documentation plays into the hands of the cultural utopians who paint a peaceful/harmonious picture of native peoples? Native peoples generally got fucked when first introduced to Europeans. However this no reason to elevate the good, and overlook the bad parts of their cultures as we see them today. In my experience, this is how things are presented. |
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Posted: 9/27/2011 8:11:55 AM EDT
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Meh. You think there were no wars in North and South America or Africa for the first 600 years of the last millenium? Those cultures were simply too backwards or weak to have their history chronicled. Yep; in tribal cultures, constant conflicts between groups were the norm, rather than the exception. It's always been interesting to me how the more technologically advanced and agrarian societies in the American Southwest went to great troubles to fortify their villages and crop stores into the sides of canyons and cliffs. I don't think they were protecting themselves from hairy mammoths. |
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Posted: 9/27/2011 8:23:27 AM EDT
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Huh.. I was looking forward to seeing Genghis Khan's campaign.
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Posted: 9/27/2011 8:23:54 AM EDT
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Holy shit people... the guy that made this obviously didn't have any recford or didn't look for Chinese and Japanese information.
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Posted: 9/27/2011 8:26:08 AM EDT
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Quoted: Meh. You think there were no wars in North and South America or Africa for the first 600 years of the last millenium? Those cultures were simply too backwards or weak to have their history chronicled. Or whatever chronicles there were got destroyed at some later date. |
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Posted: 9/27/2011 8:29:07 AM EDT
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This is why I laugh at the "New Europeans" talking about peace and cooperation and not needing to resort to violence.
You don't erase centuries of cultural tendencies with one generation. Western Culture is a violent culture. It's simply better than all of the other violent cultures. |
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Posted: 9/27/2011 10:12:47 AM EDT
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Huh.. I was looking forward to seeing Genghis Khan's campaign. Who? 
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Posted: 9/27/2011 10:22:20 AM EDT
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Cool! The native peoples of Africa, N & S America were in a constant state of brutal tribal warfare, it is just overlooked because we are supposed to admire those cultures. No, its overlooked because they never figured how to write down their battles. |
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Posted: 9/27/2011 10:43:22 AM EDT
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Holy shit people... the guy that made this obviously didn't have any recford or didn't look for Chinese and Japanese information.
Why not? Is the question that begs to be answered. 
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Posted: 9/27/2011 10:55:11 AM EDT
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Japanese and Chinese didn't keep records?
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Cool! The native peoples of Africa, N & S America were in a constant state of brutal tribal warfare, it is just overlooked because we are supposed to admire those cultures. More likely it's a lack of documentation. Pretty much this. It has nothing to do with admiring anybody or being overlooked. Or lack of scale. 800 Mayan tribesmen fighting 600 Mayan tribesmen from a neighboring citistate with sticks and stone tools isn't exactly a "war" in the same sense as huge Roman legions rampaging across Gaul, giant persian armies invading Europe, or crusades in the holy land. |
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Posted: 9/27/2011 10:56:50 AM EDT
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Quoted: I don't think that's as popular of an idea as you think it is.Cool! The native peoples of Africa, N & S America were in a constant state of brutal tribal warfare, it is just overlooked because we are supposed to admire those cultures. |
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Posted: 9/27/2011 11:03:14 AM EDT
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China , Japan?
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Japanese and Chinese didn't keep records?
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Cool! The native peoples of Africa, N & S America were in a constant state of brutal tribal warfare, it is just overlooked because we are supposed to admire those cultures. More likely it's a lack of documentation. Pretty much this. It has nothing to do with admiring anybody or being overlooked. Or lack of scale. 800 Mayan tribesmen fighting 600 Mayan tribesmen from a neighboring citistate with sticks and stone tools isn't exactly a "war" in the same sense as huge Roman legions rampaging across Gaul, giant persian armies invading Europe, or crusades in the holy land. |
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Posted: 9/27/2011 11:15:37 AM EDT
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Awesome!
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Posted: 9/27/2011 11:16:56 AM EDT
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No shortage of wars in China or Japan. No dynasty peacefully abdicated its throne to a rising power. I think the creator of that video was not as well informed as can be on their wars.
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Posted: 9/27/2011 11:19:08 AM EDT
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Meh. You think there were no wars in North and South America or Africa for the first 600 years of the last millenium? Those cultures were simply too backwards or weak to have their history chronicled. This |
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Posted: 9/27/2011 11:22:58 AM EDT
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Mankind loves war. We always will too
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Posted: 9/27/2011 11:32:12 AM EDT
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Quoted: Cool! The native peoples of Africa, N & S America were in a constant state of brutal tribal warfare, it is just overlooked because we are supposed to admire those cultures. It's also not really recorded in any meaningful way.... And the populations never really got big enough for large scale warfare. |
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Posted: 9/27/2011 11:39:20 AM EDT
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War is as natural on this planet as water.
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Posted: 9/27/2011 11:43:55 AM EDT
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Quoted: I think the video is "biased" in favor of large scale battles. Compare how it shows the Thirty Years War with how it shows the Napoleonic Wars. The former was much more violent and deadly than the latter, but because Napoleon's strategy of favoring decisive battle over a protracted conflict, his wars are more visible in the video. No shortage of wars in China or Japan. No dynasty peacefully abdicated its throne to a rising power. I think the creator of that video was not as well informed as can be on their wars. |
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Posted: 9/27/2011 12:47:14 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: I think the video is "biased" in favor of large scale battles. Compare how it shows the Thirty Years War with how it shows the Napoleonic Wars. The former was much more violent and deadly than the latter, but because Napoleon's strategy of favoring decisive battle over a protracted conflict, his wars are more visible in the video. No shortage of wars in China or Japan. No dynasty peacefully abdicated its throne to a rising power. I think the creator of that video was not as well informed as can be on their wars. 1. It would be interesting to know the authors methodology. 2. Lots of battles in Japan were on the map... China seemed lacking, but I don't know enough Chinese history to know why. 3. Casualty figures from wars in antiquity are notoriously unreliable. Hell, we don't know how many died during WW2. |
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Posted: 9/27/2011 12:51:24 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Cool! The native peoples of Africa, N & S America were in a constant state of brutal tribal warfare, it is just overlooked because we are supposed to admire those cultures. More likely it's a lack of documentation. This animation just proves that Europeans are superior record keepers. Not only will they kill you, they'll write a song about it when you're dead. |
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Posted: 9/27/2011 2:09:08 PM EDT
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Cool! The native peoples of Africa, N & S America were in a constant state of brutal tribal warfare, it is just overlooked because we are supposed to admire those cultures. More likely it's a lack of documentation. This animation just proves that Europeans are superior record keepers. Not only will they kill you, they'll write a song about it when you're dead.
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Posted: 9/27/2011 2:41:06 PM EDT
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Not only will they kill you, they'll write a song about it when you're dead.
From Agincourt to Waterloo Poitiers and then Anjou The Roses War, the Hundred Years Through battlefields of blood and tears From Bosworth Field to Pointe Du Hoc Stalingrad and the siege of York The bloody turf of Gallipoli Had no effect on the killing spree Bannockburn to Austerlitz The fall of France and the German blitz The cruelest of atrocities Europa's blood is born of these Heaven help in all our battles Heaven see love, heaven help us Bolsheviks and feudal lords Chivalry to civil wars Fascist rule and genocide Now we face the rising tide Of new crusades, religious wars Insurgents imported to our shores The western world, gripped in fear The mother of all battles here Heaven help in all our battles Heaven see love, heaven help us Avant hier, avons être Déja demain, (nous) sommes éclairée All glory, all honor Victory is upon us Our savior, fight evil Send armies to defend us Empires built, and nations burned Mass graves remain unturned Decendants of the dispossessed Return with bombs strapped to their chests There's hate for life, and death in hate Emerging from the new caliphate The victors of this war on fear Will rule for the next thousand years All glory, all honor Victory is upon us Our savior, fight evil Send armies to defend us Europa, Europa Find better days before us In kindness, in spirit Lead us to a greater calling Europa, Europa Find better days before us In kindness, in spirit Lead us to a greater calling Leningrad, Berlin wall March on Rome, Byzantium's fall Lightning war, Dresden nights Drop the bomb, end this fight! Never again! |
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Posted: 9/27/2011 2:45:23 PM EDT
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Its a load of bull conveniently timed so there is not oen battle as Islam spread, China is quite even though there were 4 dynastic changes, and Japan is quite too. Don't get me started on the Americas.
Who ever put that together made a nice attempt but come on, it is eurocentric. |
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Posted: 9/27/2011 2:46:07 PM EDT
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The far east also slaughtered any previous occupants and burned any remembrance of them.
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Posted: 9/27/2011 2:50:47 PM EDT
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They left out a TON of wars going on in the rest of the world.
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Posted: 9/27/2011 2:58:01 PM EDT
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The American Civil War had a few small expolsions but europe had a several large ones at the same time. What were these battles that were supposedly worse than the american battles?
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Posted: 9/27/2011 3:05:15 PM EDT
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Quoted: The American Civil War had a few small expolsions but europe had a several large ones at the same time. What were these battles that were supposedly worse than the american battles? Lots of shit went down in Europe around that time like the franco prussian war, the January Uprisings and various other things I don't remember. |
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Posted: 9/27/2011 3:35:29 PM EDT
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I can not find one with a higher resolution, but still neat. Europe likes its war.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiG8neU4_bs&feature=relatedhuh? Many areas have incomplete histories, but whoever did this was being VERY selective about what battles to include. We have a lot of info on Ghengis Khan's wave of wars and conquests, yet those don't appear on this movie. I also figured that the size of the explosions were important, like maybe battle-size...but look how small the Battle of Gettysberg is, yet the body count was staggering! Plenty of minor euro-wars had much bigger explosions. |
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Posted: 9/27/2011 3:37:32 PM EDT
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The American Civil War had a few small expolsions but europe had a several large ones at the same time. What were these battles that were supposedly worse than the american battles? Lots of shit went down in Europe around that time like the franco prussian war, the January Uprisings and various other things I don't remember. This is true...part of the reason we were able to win against the Brits was that they were involved in a lot of other military conflicts and boating troops over to control some unruly colonists was too much trouble |
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Posted: 9/27/2011 5:23:05 PM EDT
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Quoted: Western Culture is a violent culture. It's simply better than all of the other violent cultures. quote of the day material. |
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Posted: 9/27/2011 5:25:11 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Not only will they kill you, they'll write a song about it when you're dead. From Agincourt to Waterloo Poitiers and then Anjou The Roses War, the Hundred Years Through battlefields of blood and tears From Bosworth Field to Pointe Du Hoc Stalingrad and the siege of York The bloody turf of Gallipoli Had no effect on the killing spree Bannockburn to Austerlitz The fall of France and the German blitz The cruelest of atrocities Europa's blood is born of these Heaven help in all our battles Heaven see love, heaven help us Bolsheviks and feudal lords Chivalry to civil wars Fascist rule and genocide Now we face the rising tide Of new crusades, religious wars Insurgents imported to our shores The western world, gripped in fear The mother of all battles here Heaven help in all our battles Heaven see love, heaven help us Avant hier, avons être Déja demain, (nous) sommes éclairée All glory, all honor Victory is upon us Our savior, fight evil Send armies to defend us Empires built, and nations burned Mass graves remain unturned Decendants of the dispossessed Return with bombs strapped to their chests There's hate for life, and death in hate Emerging from the new caliphate The victors of this war on fear Will rule for the next thousand years All glory, all honor Victory is upon us Our savior, fight evil Send armies to defend us Europa, Europa Find better days before us In kindness, in spirit Lead us to a greater calling Europa, Europa Find better days before us In kindness, in spirit Lead us to a greater calling Leningrad, Berlin wall March on Rome, Byzantium's fall Lightning war, Dresden nights Drop the bomb, end this fight! Never again! those lyrics needs the song. |
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Posted: 9/27/2011 5:37:16 PM EDT
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Wow! You can really tell the difference when Napoleon starts his march across Europe. The shit really hit the fan at that point.
They snubbed the battle at Gettysburg, I figured that would have had a LARGE explosion to represent it. 55k casualties in just 3 days. C'mon. |
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Posted: 9/27/2011 5:44:25 PM EDT
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Wars in the third world weren't well documented until the 20th century.
In other words, that map is more prone to show war in Europe than Africa or South America, because Europeans could actually write shit down. Notice that the few other places you see commonly are China and Japan... Again, because they could actually write shit down. Wars undocumented are not morally superior to wars we remember. |
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