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Posted: 6/14/2012 2:24:19 PM EST
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govt of KY is keeping it in the family and buying govt Motors products
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Posted: 6/14/2012 2:25:58 PM EST
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The Charger Rocks! Ford is stupid for abandoning this market, and Chevy is idy-phucin-odic for calling the Pontiac G8 a "caprice'! How fucking GAY! That's almost as bad as Ford calling the new "Falcon" a "Festiva" or "Fiesta", or whatever the fuck they called it. (PUKE!) Ford has a F150 police package truck. So do Chevy and Ram/Dodge. They have for years. None of the are pursuit rated. They are "Special Service" vehicles. The Chevy Tahoe PPV also comes in a non-pursuit rated, 4wd Special Service version. I thought departments were starting to rate SUVs and trucks for pursuit. I believe MSP did so with the Jeep Cherokee a number of years ago. I have this years test book, but I haven't looked through it yet. The Tahoe comes in a 4x4 version or a 2 RWD version. |
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Posted: 6/14/2012 2:28:01 PM EST
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6.0L V8 with 355 hp?
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Posted: 6/14/2012 2:36:20 PM EST
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The Charger Rocks! Ford is stupid for abandoning this market, and Chevy is idy-phucin-odic for calling the Pontiac G8 a "caprice'! How fucking GAY! That's almost as bad as Ford calling the new "Falcon" a "Festiva" or "Fiesta", or whatever the fuck they called it. (PUKE!) Ford has a F150 police package truck. So do Chevy and Ram/Dodge. They have for years. None of the are pursuit rated. They are "Special Service" vehicles. The Chevy Tahoe PPV also comes in a non-pursuit rated, 4wd Special Service version. I thought departments were starting to rate SUVs and trucks for pursuit. I believe MSP did so with the Jeep Cherokee a number of years ago. I have this years test book, but I haven't looked through it yet. I think the old Jeep Cherokees used by MSP were for their motor carrier division so they would have done virtually no pursuit work at all. But yes, manufacturers are building pursuit rated SUVs. Chevy makes the Tahoe (and even had an older Tahoe PPV during the 1990s) while Ford is now making a new "Explorer" that is pursuit rated. ETA: It's also not the departments that determine if a vehicle is "pursuit rated", it is the manufacturer. |
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Posted: 6/14/2012 2:41:21 PM EST
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Quoted: The Tahoe comes in a 4x4 version or a 2 RWD version. Tahoe SSV '05 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQl315VFzl8 '09 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sU7a1qD2M1k |
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Posted: 6/14/2012 2:45:40 PM EST
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FAIL Dodge Charger Police package FTW. I'm a firm believer that cops should drive badass cars. 
http://www.allpar.com/photos/dodge/charger/police/charger.jpg http://www.allpar.com/photos/dodge/charger/police/2012.jpg Try these on for size. http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/415197_10150575008672216_114238542215_11179239_1282250339_o.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v230/gofast11/MSP/Chargerreflection.jpg I'm a Ford guy btw. What in the blue fuck  Thats the ugliest Charger cop car I have ever seen. What the hell is that on the hood?
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Posted: 6/14/2012 2:59:01 PM EST
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The Tahoe comes in a 4x4 version or a 2 RWD version. Tahoe SSV '05 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQl315VFzl8 '09 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sU7a1qD2M1k On my phone .. what are the vids? |
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Posted: 6/14/2012 3:02:16 PM EST
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: The Tahoe comes in a 4x4 version or a 2 RWD version. Tahoe SSV '05 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQl315VFzl8 '09 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sU7a1qD2M1k On my phone .. what are the vids? Meh, nothing special, just videos of a few MI DNR Tahoe SSV's setup with emergency lighting and equipment. |
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Posted: 6/14/2012 3:10:41 PM EST
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The Tahoe comes in a 4x4 version or a 2 RWD version. Tahoe SSV '05 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQl315VFzl8 '09 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sU7a1qD2M1k On my phone .. what are the vids? Meh, nothing special, just videos of a few MI DNR Tahoe SSV's setup with emergency lighting and equipment. Oh, ok. I know the 4x4 special package tahoes are not pursuit rated and I think they are regulated to 85mph. |
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Posted: 6/14/2012 3:11:44 PM EST
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Quoted: Oh, ok. I know the 4x4 special package tahoes are not pursuit rated and I think they are regulated to 85mph. 95mph. |
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Posted: 6/14/2012 3:15:23 PM EST
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: The Charger Rocks! Ford is stupid for abandoning this market, and Chevy is idy-phucin-odic for calling the Pontiac G8 a "caprice'! How fucking GAY! That's almost as bad as Ford calling the new "Falcon" a "Festiva" or "Fiesta", or whatever the fuck they called it. (PUKE!) Ford has a F150 police package truck. So do Chevy and Ram/Dodge. They have for years. None of the are pursuit rated. They are "Special Service" vehicles. The Chevy Tahoe PPV also comes in a non-pursuit rated, 4wd Special Service version. I thought departments were starting to rate SUVs and trucks for pursuit. I believe MSP did so with the Jeep Cherokee a number of years ago. I have this years test book, but I haven't looked through it yet. I think the old Jeep Cherokees used by MSP were for their motor carrier division so they would have done virtually no pursuit work at all. But yes, manufacturers are building pursuit rated SUVs. Chevy makes the Tahoe (and even had an older Tahoe PPV during the 1990s) while Ford is now making a new "Explorer" that is pursuit rated. ETA: It's also not the departments that determine if a vehicle is "pursuit rated", it is the manufacturer. True, but just because the manufacturer says it is good to go doesn't mean the department is going to go with it. The boys at MSP vehicle evaluations wouldn't have jobs if they did. |
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Posted: 6/14/2012 3:22:13 PM EST
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My agency just purchased the first batch of Ford Taurus Police Interceptors. Got to test drive one last week. DO WANT!
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Posted: 6/14/2012 3:31:13 PM EST
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I did a double take the other day when I saw a Richland County SD Challenger on the interstate...
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Posted: 6/14/2012 5:00:42 PM EST
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Here's what the CT State Police have been adding to the fleet... unmarked Dodge Chargers in gray and black
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Posted: 6/14/2012 5:27:21 PM EST
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Here's what the CT State Police have been adding to the fleet... unmarked Dodge Chargers in gray and black http://i743.photobucket.com/albums/xx78/Andrapos/charger.jpg I have never seen so many State Police patrolling the highway until I went to CT a few weeks ago. |
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Posted: 6/14/2012 6:15:57 PM EST
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Quoted: I know the guy that did the setups on those trucks. They are based at Silver Lake Dunes State Park. He did them when he worked for them in college. Now he is a Sheriff's Deputy over near where the park is. I don't know if he still does anything with them.Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: The Tahoe comes in a 4x4 version or a 2 RWD version. Tahoe SSV '05 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQl315VFzl8 '09 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sU7a1qD2M1k On my phone .. what are the vids? Meh, nothing special, just videos of a few MI DNR Tahoe SSV's setup with emergency lighting and equipment. Mike F |
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Posted: 6/14/2012 9:02:23 PM EST
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Quoted: Went to the Ford dealer for parts a couple of weeks ago they had one sitting out front My agency just purchased the first batch of Ford Taurus Police Interceptors. Got to test drive one last week. DO WANT! butt ugly  |
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Posted: 6/15/2012 1:29:33 AM EST
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Posted: 6/15/2012 2:54:03 AM EST
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I thought these cars had a future in law enforcement? Do they really? http://www.carbonmotors.com/ Doubt it. Last I heard they were denied a federal loan. |
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Posted: 6/15/2012 3:20:19 AM EST
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Posted: 6/15/2012 3:55:16 AM EST
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http://kentuckystatepolice.org/2012/pressphotos/new_cruiser.jpg The Caprice PPV is a full-size, rear-wheel drive sedan developed exclusively for the U.S. law enforcement market. It features a six liter, 355 horsepower, V-8 engine that provides the high performance needed to meet all of the agency's patrol needs. (Photo by Les Williams, KSP Public Affairs Branch) In other words, it's a fat slow piece of shit. But knowing quite a few cops, it's probably best if that thing is a fat slow piece of shit given how they think they can drive.  You're joking, right? aggressive driving, which in our case included giggle-inducing tail slides and Goodyear-immolating launches. We're thinking the PPV would be an ideal vehicle in which to learn to drift when the sergeant isn't looking. GM is quick to point out that the PPV will deliver 0-60 mph runs in under six seconds , and top whack on its certified speedometer has already been measured at 155 mph. And while we didn't have occasion to repeatedly brutalize the pie-plate-sized four-wheel discs (13.6-inch front / 12.75 rear) or its cop-spec anti-lock calibration, Michigan State Police testing recently found the PPV had a class-leading 125.8-ft. stopping distance from 60 mph. Clearly, the Pontiac G8's performance DNA is still present in this long-wheelbase relative.
http://www.autoblog.com/2011/09/30/2012-chevrolet-caprice-ppv-first-drive-review/ No, I'm not. But then again, I used to engines in the 500+ hp range. I've got a ZZ502 crate block built out in the garage that's going in my Vette that's pushing beyond 850 hp. Hell, my wifes 69 Mustang has more horsepower and is faster than that cop car. Hers is running just a FCH shy of 500 hp. Yeah.... while a little smaller and front drive, my Nissan Maxima has VERY similar performance specs as the PPV. with a sub 300 hp, V6. Yes, I know the PPV is MUCH heavy with cop stuff in it, but still... really? Yes, really. You can't compare the two. Exactly, with a big ass V8 that police car should be capable of a LOT more. Especially with upgraded brakes, suspension, etc, for duty work. My V6 Maxima is a family car. ETA: What I am saying, if my tax money is going to get cops cars, it should buy something that has a little more gumption. The article is a little pandering for the fawning they are doing over the car, like those numbers are somehow miraculous. |
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Posted: 6/15/2012 4:16:53 AM EST
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Black and White. I'm not a huge fan of obnoxiously dolled up cars either, but black and white is so "meh". |
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Posted: 6/15/2012 4:19:17 AM EST
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The V8 is fast, real fast. Yeah, I drove one, and had it quickly up to 130 MPH before I backed off. Plenty of accelerator left to go. As far as I know, they are not available to the public. However, they are likely to be sought after on the secondary market. They are going to pull big bucks at Govt. auctions, just like the LS1 Caprice did back in the 90's. Fed. auctions should offer some really clean cars. These cars are fast. They are faster than the Charger, too. |
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Posted: 6/15/2012 4:48:12 AM EST
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http://kentuckystatepolice.org/2012/pressphotos/new_cruiser.jpg The Caprice PPV is a full-size, rear-wheel drive sedan developed exclusively for the U.S. law enforcement market. It features a six liter, 355 horsepower, V-8 engine that provides the high performance needed to meet all of the agency's patrol needs. (Photo by Les Williams, KSP Public Affairs Branch) In other words, it's a fat slow piece of shit. But knowing quite a few cops, it's probably best if that thing is a fat slow piece of shit given how they think they can drive. You're joking, right? aggressive driving, which in our case included giggle-inducing tail slides and Goodyear-immolating launches. We're thinking the PPV would be an ideal vehicle in which to learn to drift when the sergeant isn't looking. GM is quick to point out that the PPV will deliver 0-60 mph runs in under six seconds , and top whack on its certified speedometer has already been measured at 155 mph. And while we didn't have occasion to repeatedly brutalize the pie-plate-sized four-wheel discs (13.6-inch front / 12.75 rear) or its cop-spec anti-lock calibration, Michigan State Police testing recently found the PPV had a class-leading 125.8-ft. stopping distance from 60 mph. Clearly, the Pontiac G8's performance DNA is still present in this long-wheelbase relative.
http://www.autoblog.com/2011/09/30/2012-chevrolet-caprice-ppv-first-drive-review/ No, I'm not. But then again, I used to engines in the 500+ hp range. I've got a ZZ502 crate block built out in the garage that's going in my Vette that's pushing beyond 850 hp. Hell, my wifes 69 Mustang has more horsepower and is faster than that cop car. Hers is running just a FCH shy of 500 hp. Yeah.... while a little smaller and front drive, my Nissan Maxima has VERY similar performance specs as the PPV. with a sub 300 hp, V6. Yes, I know the PPV is MUCH heavy with cop stuff in it, but still... really? Yes, really. You can't compare the two. Exactly, with a big ass V8 that police car should be capable of a LOT more. Especially with upgraded brakes, suspension, etc, for duty work. My V6 Maxima is a family car. ETA: What I am saying, if my tax money is going to get cops cars, it should buy something that has a little more gumption. The article is a little pandering for the fawning they are doing over the car, like those numbers are somehow miraculous. Someone already explained why the engine was designed that way. |
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Posted: 6/15/2012 8:00:51 AM EST
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http://kentuckystatepolice.org/2012/pressphotos/new_cruiser.jpg The Caprice PPV is a full-size, rear-wheel drive sedan developed exclusively for the U.S. law enforcement market. It features a six liter, 355 horsepower, V-8 engine that provides the high performance needed to meet all of the agency's patrol needs. (Photo by Les Williams, KSP Public Affairs Branch) In other words, it's a fat slow piece of shit. But knowing quite a few cops, it's probably best if that thing is a fat slow piece of shit given how they think they can drive. You're joking, right? aggressive driving, which in our case included giggle-inducing tail slides and Goodyear-immolating launches. We're thinking the PPV would be an ideal vehicle in which to learn to drift when the sergeant isn't looking. GM is quick to point out that the PPV will deliver 0-60 mph runs in under six seconds , and top whack on its certified speedometer has already been measured at 155 mph. And while we didn't have occasion to repeatedly brutalize the pie-plate-sized four-wheel discs (13.6-inch front / 12.75 rear) or its cop-spec anti-lock calibration, Michigan State Police testing recently found the PPV had a class-leading 125.8-ft. stopping distance from 60 mph. Clearly, the Pontiac G8's performance DNA is still present in this long-wheelbase relative.
http://www.autoblog.com/2011/09/30/2012-chevrolet-caprice-ppv-first-drive-review/ No, I'm not. But then again, I used to engines in the 500+ hp range. I've got a ZZ502 crate block built out in the garage that's going in my Vette that's pushing beyond 850 hp. Hell, my wifes 69 Mustang has more horsepower and is faster than that cop car. Hers is running just a FCH shy of 500 hp. Yeah.... while a little smaller and front drive, my Nissan Maxima has VERY similar performance specs as the PPV. with a sub 300 hp, V6. Yes, I know the PPV is MUCH heavy with cop stuff in it, but still... really? Yes, really. You can't compare the two. Exactly, with a big ass V8 that police car should be capable of a LOT more. Especially with upgraded brakes, suspension, etc, for duty work. My V6 Maxima is a family car. ETA: What I am saying, if my tax money is going to get cops cars, it should buy something that has a little more gumption. The article is a little pandering for the fawning they are doing over the car, like those numbers are somehow miraculous. Did you miss the fact that there is a 400lb difference? |
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Posted: 6/15/2012 9:11:27 AM EST
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Someone already explained why the engine was designed that way. I know... lifespan/durability... you would think technology would help overcome some of those limitations. And that 400 lb difference... Maxima = 12.20 lbs / HP PPV = 11.05 lbs /HP Even with more weight for equipment, that would bring the ratio's even. Lots of engines make close to 100 HP / liter, naturally aspirated, etc. Understandably, they are much higher revving, and a cop car is not a race car, the engine has to idle for long periods, and all that... But that thing is making 59 HP per liter. With a pushrod V8. I KNOW that the V* is "proven" and all that, but for God's sake... the .38 spl. is a "proven" round and reliable as stink in a revolver. But how many PDs use them anymore? Why would they be cool with ancient engine tech? They make a V6 that is nearly as potent, considering displacement. "Chevy will offer two engines in the Caprice PPV, a 3.6-liter V-6 and a 6.0-liter V-8. The six makes 301 hp and 265 lb-ft of torque; the eight ups the count to 355 and 384, respectively" They are getting 83 HP per liter out of the V6 and they are selling that one to PDs also. AND the V6 will get better mileage. I am not saying that the car is terrible, just that if they want to drop a V8 in the thing.... bring it into the 21st century. |
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Posted: 6/15/2012 9:16:34 AM EST
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Considering the impact on operating costs, I can't ever see a PD signing off on a Premium Fuel Only cruiser.
I think Ford is going to have issues selling the Ecoboost in fleet usage for that matter. There's a reason why the 4.6L with its notoriously low specific output level was so popular. |
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Posted: 6/15/2012 9:24:48 AM EST
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I don't think the FHP will be getting rid of these:
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Posted: 6/15/2012 9:46:08 AM EST
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They're actually pretty peppy...and the interior room on them isn't bad. It's not as much as an Explorer, but it isn't bad. They don't have the Vic's 18 dead hooker trunk capacity, though... Nothing out there today has the dead body capacity of the CV.... |
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Posted: 6/15/2012 10:22:16 AM EST
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Considering the impact on operating costs, I can't ever see a PD signing off on a Premium Fuel Only cruiser. I think Ford is going to have issues selling the Ecoboost in fleet usage for that matter. There's a reason why the 4.6L with its notoriously low specific output level was so popular. I consider the 4.6 to be the spiriritual successor to the 300i6.  . Slow and steady wins the race, and runs forever with little maintenance.
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Posted: 6/15/2012 10:30:42 AM EST
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Posted: 6/15/2012 11:45:36 AM EST
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Quoted: Aha...crony capitalism.Quoted: I thought these cars had a future in law enforcement? Do they really? http://www.carbonmotors.com/ Doubt it. Last I heard they were denied a federal loan.  |
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Posted: 6/15/2012 1:58:21 PM EST
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I thought these cars had a future in law enforcement? Do they really? http://www.carbonmotors.com/ Doubt it. Last I heard they were denied a federal loan.
Nothing like designing and building exactly what LEOs need, and then not being able to sell it due to political games. I'd roll one of those in a heartbeat. I think they're actually made here in GA as well.... |
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Posted: 6/15/2012 3:30:37 PM EST
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Aha...crony capitalism.Quoted: I thought these cars had a future in law enforcement? Do they really? http://www.carbonmotors.com/ Doubt it. Last I heard they were denied a federal loan. Nothing like designing and building exactly what LEOs need, and then not being able to sell it due to political games. I'd roll one of those in a heartbeat. I think they're actually made here in GA as well.... I think it's more along the lines that there was not enough interest in what they were offering at the price point. |
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Posted: 6/15/2012 4:18:18 PM EST
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I sti dont understand how people can believe the Dodge Charger is a good police vehicle. I havent spoken to a single patrol cop that likes them. Heck, a friend that is a detective was offered a Charger, but he went into the police lot, found a Ford Taurus from thelong ago absorbed Park Police. He asked for it, and got it. Had it checked out, internal LEDs and a siren installed, and runs around in that. I'll tell you why. Cause the Chargers look "cool" and "mean". That's all I ever hear about when people rave about them. Ive yet to know a cop that likes them either. Personally I think theyre shitty cars and are hideous looking. The Vic, Taurus, Caprice may all all look like old man cars but I'd take them any day over that pos Dodge. |
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Posted: 6/15/2012 4:38:57 PM EST
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I sti dont understand how people can believe the Dodge Charger is a good police vehicle. I havent spoken to a single patrol cop that likes them. Heck, a friend that is a detective was offered a Charger, but he went into the police lot, found a Ford Taurus from thelong ago absorbed Park Police. He asked for it, and got it. Had it checked out, internal LEDs and a siren installed, and runs around in that. I'll tell you why. Cause the Chargers look "cool" and "mean". That's all I ever hear about when people rave about them. Ive yet to know a cop that likes them either. Personally I think theyre shitty cars and are hideous looking. The Vic, Taurus, Caprice may all all look like old man cars but I'd take them any day over that pos Dodge. I am the 'car guy' for our PD. Since the Vic got phased out, I was put in charge of doing the research on what is available. The Charger might look sweet (appearance wise), but its a maintenance nightmare. |
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Posted: 6/15/2012 4:43:54 PM EST
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As long as the Trooper/Police car isn't after you,why give a damn what it looks like?
The KY CVE does have some unmarked Chargers,very sneaky damned things they are. |
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Posted: 6/15/2012 4:55:34 PM EST
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Stop sign. Pull up next to you, point at sign, you pull over. In theory anyway. |
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Posted: 6/15/2012 5:00:51 PM EST
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http://www.allpar.com/photos/dodge/charger/police/charger.jpg http://www.allpar.com/photos/dodge/charger/police/2012.jpg My department has exactly one 2007 Crown Vic left in the fleet. The rest are 07-2011 Chargers, (the two 2012's havent hit the street yet, need to be outfitted first). We are a small muni with 9 patrol cars. 4 Chargers went down Monday and were out of service. Guess how many times the Crown Vic has been down due to parts failure? The Chargers look good and run fast.....and fall the fuck apart. Why the fuck we keep buying them is beyond me. Additionally, the crap like cages, rifle mounts and push bumpers from the 07-10 Chargers does NOT fit in/on the 11-12 Chargers...So, in addition to having reliability issues, the fuckers are more expensive to continue owning due to parts not swapping over... I love the look of the cars, and the power from that motor is unGAWDly compared to a Crown Vic....but they are not reliable and not worth buying IMO/IME. |
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Posted: 6/15/2012 5:17:31 PM EST
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These are basically the same car as the discontinued Pontiac G8 GT. I've been trying to find one of those. People aren't selling. Here you go but not just a GT. http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?zip=75904&endYear=2013&modelCode1=G8&sortBy=derivedpriceASC&startYear=1998&makeCode1=PONT&listingType=used&bodyStyles=SEDAN%2CWAGON&transmissionCode=MAN&numRecords=100&searchRadius=300&listingId=315059193&Log=0 
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Posted: 6/15/2012 6:51:50 PM EST
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I'm all for utility. What works, what has room, weight consideration, handling, engine, and most importantly - cost effectiveness... looks really don't mean shit.
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Posted: 6/15/2012 7:03:08 PM EST
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Onstar? Has the sat antenna.
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Posted: 6/15/2012 8:29:25 PM EST
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CSB from drive home tonight
saw a white crown vic with spotlight/black wheels/etc with civ plates going down the highway on the way home tonight I glanced in my mirror as I went past and his brake lights came on but he didn't slow and was no where near any intersection I kept watching him in my mirror for a bit everytime a car went by the other direction he tapped his brakes Fucking tard getting his jollies I guess |
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Posted: 6/15/2012 8:41:54 PM EST
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Quoted: Quoted: FAIL Dodge Charger Police package FTW. I'm a firm believer that cops should drive badass cars. http://www.allpar.com/photos/dodge/charger/police/charger.jpg http://www.allpar.com/photos/dodge/charger/police/2012.jpg Try these on for size. http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/415197_10150575008672216_114238542215_11179239_1282250339_o.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v230/gofast11/MSP/Chargerreflection.jpg I'm a Ford guy btw. The hood sign and bubble gum light look absurd on that. I know MSP is all about tradition but that looks like shit. The uniform could use a little update too. |
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Posted: 6/15/2012 8:57:17 PM EST
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Quoted: Quoted: So many ugly cars... They could at least reduce the ugliness by painting it the traditional black and white. I hate the black and white paint scheme. LA can keep that shite. |
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Posted: 6/15/2012 9:00:04 PM EST
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: http://kentuckystatepolice.org/2012/pressphotos/new_cruiser.jpg The Caprice PPV is a full-size, rear-wheel drive sedan developed exclusively for the U.S. law enforcement market. It features a six liter, 355 horsepower, V-8 engine that provides the high performance needed to meet all of the agency's patrol needs. (Photo by Les Williams, KSP Public Affairs Branch) In other words, it's a fat slow piece of shit. But knowing quite a few cops, it's probably best if that thing is a fat slow piece of shit given how they think they can drive. You're joking, right? aggressive driving, which in our case included giggle-inducing tail slides and Goodyear-immolating launches. We're thinking the PPV would be an ideal vehicle in which to learn to drift when the sergeant isn't looking. GM is quick to point out that the PPV will deliver 0-60 mph runs in under six seconds , and top whack on its certified speedometer has already been measured at 155 mph. And while we didn't have occasion to repeatedly brutalize the pie-plate-sized four-wheel discs (13.6-inch front / 12.75 rear) or its cop-spec anti-lock calibration, Michigan State Police testing recently found the PPV had a class-leading 125.8-ft. stopping distance from 60 mph. Clearly, the Pontiac G8's performance DNA is still present in this long-wheelbase relative. http://www.autoblog.com/2011/09/30/2012-chevrolet-caprice-ppv-first-drive-review/ No, I'm not. But then again, I used to engines in the 500+ hp range. I've got a ZZ502 crate block built out in the garage that's going in my Vette that's pushing beyond 850 hp. Hell, my wifes 69 Mustang has more horsepower and is faster than that cop car. Hers is running just a FCH shy of 500 hp. You're comparing apples to right angle power drills. Neither of your two cars could survive a week of police use.
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Posted: 6/15/2012 9:01:02 PM EST
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Quoted: I saw a murdered out 2011/2012 Charger with metallic paint and the holographic logos. It looked pretty darn cool. I've seen ISP running Challengers like that as well as Mustangs. |
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Posted: 6/15/2012 9:03:45 PM EST
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These are basically the same car as the discontinued Pontiac G8 GT. I've been trying to find one of those. People aren't selling. Here you go but not just a GT. http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?zip=75904&endYear=2013&modelCode1=G8&sortBy=derivedpriceASC&startYear=1998&makeCode1=PONT&listingType=used&bodyStyles=SEDAN%2CWAGON&transmissionCode=MAN&numRecords=100&searchRadius=300&listingId=315059193&Log=0 That is horribly overpriced. |
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Posted: 6/15/2012 9:07:14 PM EST
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These are basically the same car as the discontinued Pontiac G8 GT. I've been trying to find one of those. People aren't selling. Here you go but not just a GT. http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?zip=75904&endYear=2013&modelCode1=G8&sortBy=derivedpriceASC&startYear=1998&makeCode1=PONT&listingType=used&bodyStyles=SEDAN%2CWAGON&transmissionCode=MAN&numRecords=100&searchRadius=300&listingId=315059193&Log=0 Here's the one mentioned earlier: http://forum.grrrr8.net/showthread.php?t=31887 33K miles, longtubes, hi-flow cats, Yank 3200, runs 11.9s... $31K |
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Posted: 6/15/2012 9:10:25 PM EST
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Quoted: Quoted: So what you're saying is you're comparing a production fleet car to performance crate engines and built muscle cars. Gotcha. No, what I'm saying is that 355 hp is not that impressive. There were cars made back in the 60's with this kind of power. For an interceptor I'd like to see 450+ hp if they're going to spend their money on something that is supposed to be fast. No they were not. No 1969 Mustang even came close to 500hp other than the uber rare Boss 429's and a handful of Shelbys. Nothing shot of ocean going vessels and trains made 800 hp or close. Also engine HP was rated much differently back in the 60's. An engines published HP was rated on a stand with no accessory drive, exhaust, etc. All those 425 hp muscle cars would really be closer to 380 or so by today's standards. Of course the 400 plus hp cars were rare back then too. Most fell under the 300 hp mark. Most family sedans today can smoke the muscle car of yesteryear. |
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