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Posted: 7/23/2012 3:49:15 AM EDT
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Virginia is an excellent gun right's state. But most of the movie theaters here are posted with no weapons signs. Which I construe to mean concealed.
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Posted: 7/23/2012 3:56:07 AM EDT
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Quoted: Virginia is an excellent gun right's state. But most of the movie theaters here are posted with no weapons signs. Which I construe to mean concealed. Same with FL, I don't think I've ever seen a theater without a sign. |
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Posted: 7/23/2012 4:02:12 AM EDT
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Virginia is an excellent gun right's state. But most of the movie theaters here are posted with no weapons signs. Which I construe to mean concealed. What was their sign? In Texas, 
is not legally binding of notification. The sign must be in accordance with 30.06 (yes, we get a joke out of that number). Mind one, though, that if a manager inside says that one cannot have a gun in there, then notification has been legally made and one must then depart. __________________________________________________________________ ("Oh, Lord, give us a sign!"––the pilgrims, there is a flash of lightning and a traffic sign of "no parking, monday, wednesday, and friday" appears before them, (w,stte), an Omni cartoon) |
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Posted: 7/23/2012 4:02:13 AM EDT
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found on drudge-
From link- This ordinance banning the carrying of "dangerous weapons" was deemed "unenforceable" when Colorado state prohibited cities and counties from enforcing such laws in 2003. After talking to officials the Aurora Police Department, we found that counties can now issue concealed-and-carry permits, BUT in Aurora, it is still against the law to fire the weaponunless at a shooting range (or if you are an officer on duty). Therefore, it would have been illegal for anyone to fire in the theater. Also, the theater reportedly had a ban on any and all weapons. Anyone without a conceal-and-carry permit in Aurora must also keep their guns unloaded unless at a range. |
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Posted: 7/23/2012 4:02:21 AM EDT
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Cinamark has a no handgun policy.
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Posted: 7/23/2012 4:07:09 AM EDT
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I just read on drudge that Aurora has a law that makes firing a gun at anyplace other than a shooting range by anyone other than a police officer illegal. So if a CCWer had shot him down, he'd have been committing a crime. Also the entire city of Aurora has an ordanace on the books making carrying of "dangerous weapons" illegal. The law was deemed unenforceable, but remains on the books. This ordinance banning the carrying of "dangerous weapons" was deemed "unenforceable" when Colorado state prohibited cities and counties from enforcing such laws in 2003. After talking to officials the Aurora Police Department, we found that counties can now issue concealed-and-carry permits, BUT in Aurora, it is still against the law to fire the weaponunless at a shooting range (or if you are an officer on duty). Therefore, it would have been illegal for anyone to fire in the theater. Also, the theater reportedly had a ban on any and all weapons. Anyone without a conceal-and-carry permit in Aurora must also keep their guns unloaded unless at a range. Does that report list the complete statute or references where it can be found? As I have often noticed, people list the section of the law they want to make their point but often leave out the defenses and exceptions. __________________________________________________________________________ ("Father, it has been many years since my last confession. A week ago, I turned off the life support of my lover. Then I hunted down the man who put here there and killed him."––Dicky Cobb "Did you have license for this, my son, or is this a confession of murder?"––Father, (w,stte), "Reasonable Doubts") |
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Posted: 7/23/2012 4:10:09 AM EDT
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Virginia is an excellent gun right's state. But most of the movie theaters here are posted with no weapons signs. Which I construe to mean concealed. What was their sign? In Texas, https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/47/No_guns.svg/336px-No_guns.svg.png is not legally binding of notification. The sign must be in accordance with 30.06 (yes, we get a joke out of that number). Mind one, though, that if a manager inside says that one cannot have a gun in there, then notification has been legally made and one must then depart. __________________________________________________________________ ("Oh, Lord, give us a sign!"––the pilgrims, there is a flash of lightning and a traffic sign of "no parking, monday, wednesday, and friday" appears before them, (w,stte), an Omni cartoon) According to that sign, we can't bring in 1911s...but Glocks, Sigs and HKs and everything else are all perfectly good to go? 
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Posted: 7/23/2012 4:16:40 AM EDT
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In NC you can't take your legally carried concealed weapon in any location that charges a fee for entrance. Theaters in NC are gun free no matter what the business wants. At least free from legal CCW.
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Posted: 7/23/2012 4:19:08 AM EDT
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Virginia is an excellent gun right's state. But most of the movie theaters here are posted with no weapons signs. Which I construe to mean concealed. Same with FL, I don't think I've ever seen a theater without a sign. The signs mean jack shit in FL |
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Posted: 7/23/2012 4:23:26 AM EDT
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The back of my CCW does not list theatres as a place in which I can not carry.
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Posted: 7/23/2012 4:25:16 AM EDT
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Was the Colorado theater a gun free zone?
Obviously not. The "gun free zone" is a myth. Hell, the government can't even keep all guns out of prisons. |
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Posted: 7/23/2012 4:36:47 AM EDT
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I wonder if the theatre was chosen specifically because of the gun policies.
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Posted: 7/23/2012 4:37:43 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Virginia is an excellent gun right's state. But most of the movie theaters here are posted with no weapons signs. Which I construe to mean concealed. Same with FL, I don't think I've ever seen a theater without a sign. The signs mean jack shit in FL To someone with a conscience who respects other people's shit it does. Same with shopping malls, and if I do go to a movie it's the 11am early bird where I'm the only asshole there. I hate crowded theaters |
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Posted: 7/23/2012 4:40:31 AM EDT
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IF it was gun free, how did he get 4 guns in? Seems like a fail in security.
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Posted: 7/23/2012 4:56:08 AM EDT
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IF it was gun free, how did he get 4 guns in? Seems like a fail in security. He walked through the front unarmed, had his car parked next to the emergency exit, so when he got into the theater he propped the door open and went and got the guns. I used to go to this theater about a decade ago, not the greatest area to begin with, IIRC they typically had a few off duty cops there, apparently they didn't have them for the special screening. |
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Posted: 7/23/2012 4:58:32 AM EDT
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IF it was gun free, how did he get 4 guns in? Seems like a fail in security. Gun free zones are target rich envrionments to the nut cases, thugs and despots in our country, hell any country. An unarmed society is a victim society, a victim society allows government to control their lives as government is responsible for thier safety. 
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Posted: 7/23/2012 5:00:33 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Virginia is an excellent gun right's state. But most of the movie theaters here are posted with no weapons signs. Which I construe to mean concealed. What was their sign? In Texas, https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/47/No_guns.svg/336px-No_guns.svg.png is not legally binding of notification. The sign must be in accordance with 30.06 (yes, we get a joke out of that number). Mind one, though, that if a manager inside says that one cannot have a gun in there, then notification has been legally made and one must then depart. __________________________________________________________________ ("Oh, Lord, give us a sign!"––the pilgrims, there is a flash of lightning and a traffic sign of "no parking, monday, wednesday, and friday" appears before them, (w,stte), an Omni cartoon) I assume Glocks are permissible in places displaying that sign. |
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Posted: 7/23/2012 5:04:51 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Virginia is an excellent gun right's state. But most of the movie theaters here are posted with no weapons signs. Which I construe to mean concealed. Same with FL, I don't think I've ever seen a theater without a sign. The signs mean jack shit in FL To someone with a conscience who respects other people's shit it does. Same with shopping malls, and if I do go to a movie it's the 11am early bird where I'm the only asshole there. I hate crowded theaters Yeah I gotta go with this, I don't like it but I respect the property owners wishes I just try to avoid whenever possible. |
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Posted: 7/23/2012 5:05:28 AM EDT
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A classic case of gun control being law dog piling. It's not enough to have no assault, murder, etc on the books, we have to say that certain types of guns, magazines or places to take the guns are off limits. He broke enough laws to put him away for life (death penalty?) without adding more to the books. Obviously this guy didn't give a rip about laws and neither does anyone bent on harming others.
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Posted: 7/23/2012 5:07:05 AM EDT
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I just read on drudge that Aurora has a law that makes firing a gun at anyplace other than a shooting range by anyone other than a police officer illegal. So if a CCWer had shot him down, he'd have been committing a crime. Also the entire city of Aurora has an ordanace on the books making carrying of "dangerous weapons" illegal. The law was deemed unenforceable, but remains on the books. This ordinance banning the carrying of "dangerous weapons" was deemed "unenforceable" when Colorado state prohibited cities and counties from enforcing such laws in 2003. After talking to officials the Aurora Police Department, we found that counties can now issue concealed-and-carry permits, BUT in Aurora, it is still against the law to fire the weaponunless at a shooting range (or if you are an officer on duty). Therefore, it would have been illegal for anyone to fire in the theater. Also, the theater reportedly had a ban on any and all weapons. Anyone without a conceal-and-carry permit in Aurora must also keep their guns unloaded unless at a range. Does that report list the complete statute or references where it can be found? As I have often noticed, people list the section of the law they want to make their point but often leave out the defenses and exceptions. __________________________________________________________________________ ("Father, it has been many years since my last confession. A week ago, I turned off the life support of my lover. Then I hunted down the man who put here there and killed him."––Dicky Cobb "Did you have license for this, my son, or is this a confession of murder?"––Father, (w,stte), "Reasonable Doubts") it does. Aurora code sec 94-146a. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 7/23/2012 5:13:13 AM EDT
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De jure, yes. De facto, obvioulsy not.
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Posted: 7/23/2012 5:16:42 AM EDT
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I just read on drudge that Aurora has a law that makes firing a gun at anyplace other than a shooting range by anyone other than a police officer illegal. So if a CCWer had shot him down, he'd have been committing a crime. Also the entire city of Aurora has an ordanace on the books making carrying of "dangerous weapons" illegal. The law was deemed unenforceable, but remains on the books. This ordinance banning the carrying of "dangerous weapons" was deemed "unenforceable" when Colorado state prohibited cities and counties from enforcing such laws in 2003. After talking to officials the Aurora Police Department, we found that counties can now issue concealed-and-carry permits, BUT in Aurora, it is still against the law to fire the weaponunless at a shooting range (or if you are an officer on duty). Therefore, it would have been illegal for anyone to fire in the theater. Also, the theater reportedly had a ban on any and all weapons. Anyone without a conceal-and-carry permit in Aurora must also keep their guns unloaded unless at a range. Does that report list the complete statute or references where it can be found? As I have often noticed, people list the section of the law they want to make their point but often leave out the defenses and exceptions. __________________________________________________________________________ it does. Aurora code sec 94-146a. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I don't have the time right now to go through all the sections.............but review Article I-In General. ________________________________________________________________________________ ("There are always possibilities."––Spock, (w,stte), "ST II:TWOK") |
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Posted: 7/23/2012 5:19:08 AM EDT
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I think this thread answered your question.
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Posted: 7/23/2012 5:24:35 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Virginia is an excellent gun right's state. But most of the movie theaters here are posted with no weapons signs. Which I construe to mean concealed. What was their sign? In Texas, https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/47/No_guns.svg/336px-No_guns.svg.png is not legally binding of notification. The sign must be in accordance with 30.06 (yes, we get a joke out of that number). Mind one, though, that if a manager inside says that one cannot have a gun in there, then notification has been legally made and one must then depart. __________________________________________________________________ ("Oh, Lord, give us a sign!"––the pilgrims, there is a flash of lightning and a traffic sign of "no parking, monday, wednesday, and friday" appears before them, (w,stte), an Omni cartoon) According to that sign, we can't bring in 1911s...but Glocks, Sigs and HKs and everything else are all perfectly good to go? That's my interpretation as well... |
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Posted: 7/23/2012 5:25:08 AM EDT
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This will cost Cinemark many millions in lawsuit damages.
They prevent their customers from protecting themselves while on Cinemark's property but obviously failed to protect their customers themselves. |
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Posted: 7/23/2012 5:33:17 AM EDT
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Virginia is an excellent gun right's state. But most of the movie theaters here are posted with no weapons signs. Which I construe to mean concealed. Same with FL, I don't think I've ever seen a theater without a sign. The signs mean jack shit in FL I live in South Florida, a liberal bastion, and I haven't seen a single anti-gun sign at any theater I have frequented. There used to be a tiny, white, decal sign which listed carrying a concealed firearm as among a list of many prohibited activities, at one of the entrances to the high end Boca Town Center Mall; but it's long gone probably because there was a serial killer active at that mall who has never been apprehended. |
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Posted: 7/23/2012 5:36:38 AM EDT
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Virginia is an excellent gun right's state. But most of the movie theaters here are posted with no weapons signs. Which I construe to mean concealed. Same with FL, I don't think I've ever seen a theater without a sign. The signs mean jack shit in FL To someone with a conscience who respects other people's shit it does. Same with shopping malls, and if I do go to a movie it's the 11am early bird where I'm the only asshole there. I hate crowded theaters
Yeah I gotta go with this, I don't like it but I respect the property owners wishes I just try to avoid whenever possible. I don't respect the wishes of anyone who, contrary to the laws of my state, want to deny me my right to carry a concealed firearm for my protection after opening their property to the public and extending to me the status of "invitee". Piss on them. |
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Posted: 7/23/2012 5:53:55 AM EDT
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Virginia is an excellent gun right's state. But most of the movie theaters here are posted with no weapons signs. Which I construe to mean concealed. Same with FL, I don't think I've ever seen a theater without a sign. The signs mean jack shit in FL To someone with a conscience who respects other people's shit it does. Same with shopping malls, and if I do go to a movie it's the 11am early bird where I'm the only asshole there. I hate crowded theaters
Yeah I gotta go with this, I don't like it but I respect the property owners wishes I just try to avoid whenever possible. My right to survival and my duty to support and protect my family trumps any stupid liberal desires of property owners. If they are open to the public, and I can legally carry there, I carry. Always. If they don't want to operate a business in a carry state, they're welcome to fold up their tent and move on. |
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Posted: 7/23/2012 6:04:46 AM EDT
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Cinamark has a no handgun policy. If only they had a no AR, and bomb policy everyone in the theater would have been safer... It's their fault. Why not just have a no shooting people policy? |
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Posted: 7/23/2012 6:06:48 AM EDT
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Quoted: I wonder if the theatre was chosen specifically because of the gun policies. I would imagine so. Seems 99% of these mass-shootings take place in 'gun free zones'.  |
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Posted: 7/23/2012 6:15:26 AM EDT
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Concealed means concealed.
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Posted: 7/23/2012 6:28:15 AM EDT
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IF it was gun free, how did he get 4 guns in? Seems like a fail in security. A CHL holder who was in the theater should sue Cinemark for not protecting him when they had taken away his lawful right to defend himself. Seriously, this is a lawsuit that needs to be tried and appealed to place liability on business entities that feel "uncomfortable" with CHL holders carrying their weapons. |
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Posted: 7/23/2012 6:44:54 AM EDT
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Quoted: Just wondering if they have that stupidity in Colorado like other states?  The Second Amendment Foundation (SAF) contacted TTAG to document Cinemark Holding‘s firearms ban. The company’s website makes no mention of the policy and their PR department’s not answering the phone. The SAF asked us to ask our readers to provide a photo of the "no guns” notice. Several commentators used their Google-Fu to find this notice. I guess they forgot to mount it on the back of the exit door through which the Batman Massacre shooter James Holmes entered. |
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Posted: 7/23/2012 7:59:25 AM EDT
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While we can never know if a CCW holder could have lessened the tragedy, we DO know that gun free zone laws had ZERO effect.
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Posted: 7/23/2012 8:14:25 AM EDT
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They showed a pic of the sign on the door on the news briefly
OT: I print signs, and when someone asks me to print a (non-compliant) "no guns" sign I'll use the silhouette of the most obscure handguns that come to mind just for the lulz HK VP-70, Whitney Wolverine, Schofield, Gyrojet I won't print a legally compliant 30.06 "no CCW" sign |
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Posted: 7/23/2012 8:16:54 AM EDT
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This will cost Cinemark many millions in lawsuit damages. They prevent allow their customers from protecting themselves while on Cinemark's property but obviously failed to protect their customers themselves. I was going to post about this. Where do they stand here, legally? Obviously Im free NOT to enter their theater under their protection without my own protection, but still, you've have to assume they mean to protect you? |
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Posted: 7/23/2012 8:23:41 AM EDT
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I wonder if the theatre was chosen specifically because of the gun policies. I would imagine so. Seems 99% of these mass-shootings take place in 'gun free zones'.
I doubt it. Pretty much every theater has a 'no guns' policy nowadays (if you look hard for their sign). Plus, I would think that if someone was plugged in enough to evaluate a target based on this, they would also be plugged in enough to realize that many legal CCWers ignore those signs. I haven't seen a map but I would be more likely to guess it was the nearest large theater to his apartment. |
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Posted: 7/23/2012 8:23:49 AM EDT
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Virginia is an excellent gun right's state. But most of the movie theaters here are posted with no weapons signs. Which I construe to mean concealed. What was their sign? In Texas, https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/47/No_guns.svg/336px-No_guns.svg.png is not legally binding of notification. The sign must be in accordance with 30.06 (yes, we get a joke out of that number). Mind one, though, that if a manager inside says that one cannot have a gun in there, then notification has been legally made and one must then depart. __________________________________________________________________ ("Oh, Lord, give us a sign!"––the pilgrims, there is a flash of lightning and a traffic sign of "no parking, monday, wednesday, and friday" appears before them, (w,stte), an Omni cartoon) I guess a 1911 is out for TX. Good thing I'm in WY and do not carry a 1911. 
Seriously, the local Sheriff here says "Concealed means concealed!"
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Posted: 7/23/2012 8:28:53 AM EDT
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....................... and if I do go to a movie it's the 11am early bird where I'm the only asshole there. Did that sentence structure convey what you wanted it to? It leaves one wondering how many ordinary people were there at the same time you were. |
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Posted: 7/23/2012 11:13:45 AM EDT
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Quoted: I don't have the time right now to go through all the sections.............but review Article I-In General. ________________________________________________________________________________ ("There are always possibilities."––Spock, (w,stte), "ST II:TWOK") Thanks - It's in Section 94.144. Section 94.144 - Unlawful Concealment and Display of a Weapon (a) Concealment. Except as provided in subsection (b) of this section it shall be unlawful for any person to wear under his or her clothes or carry concealed on or about his or her person any illegal or deadly weapon, including but not by way of limitation any firearm, slingshot, razor, dirk, dagger, or any knife, nunchaku or throwing stars. (b) It shall not be an offense of subsection (a) of this section if the defendant was: (2) A person in a private automobile or other means of private conveyance who carries a knife for lawful protection of such person's or another's person or property while traveling, or (3) In his or her own dwelling or place of business or on property owned or under his or her control at the time of the alleged violation; or (4) A person who, at the time of carrying the concealed weapon held a valid permit to carry such concealed weapon issued pursuant to C.R.S. 18-12-105.1 as it existed prior to its repeal, or, if the weapon involved was a handgun, held a valid permit to carry a concealed handgun or a temporary emergency permit issued pursuant to part 2 of article 12 of title 18 of the Colorado Revised Statutes; except that it shall be an offense under this section if the person was carrying a concealed handgun in violation of the carrying restrictions contained in C.R.S. 18-12-214; or (5) A peace officer, as described in Section 16-2.5-101, C.R.S. when carrying a weapon in conformance with the policy of the employing agency as provided in Section 16-2.5-101(2) C.R.S.; or (6) A United States Probation Officer or a United States Pretrial Services Officer while on duty and serving in the State of Colorado under the authority of rules and regulations promulgated by the Judicial Conference of the United States. |
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Posted: 7/26/2012 8:51:52 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I wonder if the theatre was chosen specifically because of the gun policies. I would imagine so. Seems 99% of these mass-shootings take place in 'gun free zones'. I doubt it. Pretty much every theater has a 'no guns' policy nowadays (if you look hard for their sign). Plus, I would think that if someone was plugged in enough to evaluate a target based on this, they would also be plugged in enough to realize that many legal CCWers ignore those signs. I haven't seen a map but I would be more likely to guess it was the nearest large theater to his apartment. Name a recent mass shooting that didn't take place in a 'gun free zone'. |
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Posted: 7/26/2012 8:52:54 AM EDT
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Just wondering if they have that stupidity in Colorado like other states? IIRC, the theatre was posted "No CCW". However, the murderer ignored the sign. Go figure. |
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Posted: 7/26/2012 8:55:12 AM EDT
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Virginia is an excellent gun right's state. But most of the movie theaters here are posted with no weapons signs. Which I construe to mean concealed. What was their sign? In Texas, https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/47/No_guns.svg/336px-No_guns.svg.png is not legally binding of notification. The sign must be in accordance with 30.06 (yes, we get a joke out of that number). Mind one, though, that if a manager inside says that one cannot have a gun in there, then notification has been legally made and one must then depart. __________________________________________________________________ ("Oh, Lord, give us a sign!"––the pilgrims, there is a flash of lightning and a traffic sign of "no parking, monday, wednesday, and friday" appears before them, (w,stte), an Omni cartoon) That's Racist
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Posted: 7/26/2012 9:03:26 AM EDT
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Just wondering if they have that stupidity in Colorado like other states? http://ttag.zippykidcdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Cinemark-gun-ban-notice-courtesy-vdcl.org_.jpeg The Second Amendment Foundation (SAF) contacted TTAG to document Cinemark Holding‘s firearms ban. The company’s website makes no mention of the policy and their PR department’s not answering the phone. The SAF asked us to ask our readers to provide a photo of the "no guns” notice. Several commentators used their Google-Fu to find this notice. I guess they forgot to mount it on the back of the exit door through which the Batman Massacre shooter James Holmes entered. Thank god I don't carry a Beretta 92 or Taurus. So I guess other gun are legal, huh? |
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Posted: 7/26/2012 9:10:10 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/26/2012 9:10:23 AM EDT
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Virginia is an excellent gun right's state. But most of the movie theaters here are posted with no weapons signs. Which I construe to mean concealed. Where Unlawful to Carry §18.2-308 (O.): Private property when prohibited by the owner of the property, or where posted as prohibited. 18.2-308. Personal protection; carrying concealed weapons; when lawful to carry; penalty. A. If any person carries about his person, hidden from common observation, (i) any pistol, revolver, or other weapon designed or intended to propel a missile of any kind by action of an explosion of any combustible material; (ii) any dirk, bowie knife, switchblade knife, ballistic knife, machete, razor, slingshot, spring stick, metal knucks, or blackjack; (iii) any flailing instrument consisting of two or more rigid parts connected in such a manner as to allow them to swing freely, which may be known as a nun chahka, nun chuck, nunchaku, shuriken, or fighting chain; (iv) any disc, of whatever configuration, having at least two points or pointed blades which is designed to be thrown or propelled and which may be known as a throwing star or oriental dart; or (v) any weapon of like kind as those enumerated in this subsection, he shall be guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor. A second violation of this section or a conviction under this section subsequent to any conviction under any substantially similar ordinance of any county, city, or town shall be punishable as a Class 6 felony, and a third or subsequent such violation shall be punishable as a Class 5 felony. For the purpose of this section, a weapon shall be deemed to be hidden from common observation when it is observable but is of such deceptive appearance as to disguise the weapon's true nature. It shall be an affirmative defense to a violation of clause (i) regarding a handgun, that a person had been issued, at the time of the offense, a valid concealed handgun permit. Class 1 Misdemeanor the first time caught. Class 6 Felony second time caught. Class 5 Felony third time caught. |
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Posted: 7/26/2012 9:15:02 AM EDT
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Concealed means concealed. Except, in Virginia, a CHP holder is committing a crime if they enter posted property with a concealed handgun: Quoted:
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Virginia is an excellent gun right's state. But most of the movie theaters here are posted with no weapons signs. Which I construe to mean concealed. Where Unlawful to Carry §18.2-308 (O.): Private property when prohibited by the owner of the property, or where posted as prohibited. 18.2-308. Personal protection; carrying concealed weapons; when lawful to carry; penalty. A. If any person carries about his person, hidden from common observation, (i) any pistol, revolver, or other weapon designed or intended to propel a missile of any kind by action of an explosion of any combustible material; (ii) any dirk, bowie knife, switchblade knife, ballistic knife, machete, razor, slingshot, spring stick, metal knucks, or blackjack; (iii) any flailing instrument consisting of two or more rigid parts connected in such a manner as to allow them to swing freely, which may be known as a nun chahka, nun chuck, nunchaku, shuriken, or fighting chain; (iv) any disc, of whatever configuration, having at least two points or pointed blades which is designed to be thrown or propelled and which may be known as a throwing star or oriental dart; or (v) any weapon of like kind as those enumerated in this subsection, he shall be guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor. A second violation of this section or a conviction under this section subsequent to any conviction under any substantially similar ordinance of any county, city, or town shall be punishable as a Class 6 felony, and a third or subsequent such violation shall be punishable as a Class 5 felony. For the purpose of this section, a weapon shall be deemed to be hidden from common observation when it is observable but is of such deceptive appearance as to disguise the weapon's true nature. It shall be an affirmative defense to a violation of clause (i) regarding a handgun, that a person had been issued, at the time of the offense, a valid concealed handgun permit. Class 1 Misdemeanor the first time caught. Class 6 Felony second time caught. Class 5 Felony third time caught. |
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Posted: 7/26/2012 9:20:13 AM EDT
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Virginia is an excellent gun right's state. But most of the movie theaters here are posted with no weapons signs. Which I construe to mean concealed. You cannot carry anywhere that charges admission in Va. Check the regs. Theatres charge admission. |
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Posted: 7/26/2012 9:32:55 AM EDT
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IF it was gun free, how did he get 4 guns in? Seems like a fail in security. He walked through the front unarmed, had his car parked next to the emergency exit, so when he got into the theater he propped the door open and went and got the guns. I used to go to this theater about a decade ago, not the greatest area to begin with, IIRC they typically had a few off duty cops there, apparently they didn't have them for the special screening. Must not have had a gun free zone sign on that emergency entrance then. Think of how many lives could've been saved.
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Posted: 7/26/2012 10:39:45 AM EDT
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OT: I print signs, and when someone asks me to print a (non-compliant) "no guns" sign I'll use the silhouette of the most obscure handguns that come to mind just for the lulz
You need to have a sign with a Dardick pistol. It's one of the ugliest and least-practical guns ever made. It looks more like a bad movie prop for a 50's flying-saucer movie than a real gun. |
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