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Posted: 8/17/2013 9:16:53 AM EDT
I am reading Thus Spoke Zarathustra for the first time. One thing that stands out to me is that  Nietzsche was horribly mis-understood.

Thoughts?
Link Posted: 8/17/2013 9:17:54 AM EDT
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dude rocked.. till he went nutz
Link Posted: 8/17/2013 9:19:02 AM EDT
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Read Nietzsche, it won't kill you.
Link Posted: 8/17/2013 9:19:49 AM EDT
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I am actually enjoying it very much...
Link Posted: 8/17/2013 9:20:50 AM EDT
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"Under peaceful conditions a warlike man sets upon himself"



"Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And when you look long into an abyss, the abyss also looks into you"
Link Posted: 8/17/2013 9:20:52 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/17/2013 9:25:12 AM EDT
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".....Waiter, this conversation is not very good..........."
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I don't understand the reference.
Link Posted: 8/17/2013 9:28:32 AM EDT
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"The only important question in life is...should I kill myself?"
Link Posted: 8/17/2013 9:29:13 AM EDT
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Funny, but rather twisted. It seems his sister who wanted money, power, and prestige took over his small collection of writings and used them to further her personal power and fortune. Also in "The Will to Power" it appears that there were a few forgeries and it was never meant to be published, it was simply his own notes.

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Nihlism?
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"The only important question in life is...should I kill myself?"

Nihlism?





That's Nietchze for you...
ETA - I had a friend once who was wallowing in self-pity.  I told her to quit whining and get on with it.  Either kill yourself, or wake the fuck up and realize that life is what you make it.
That to me is what's at the core of nihilism.  People stereotype it as defeatism, but it's really all about taking control of your will.
 
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That's Nietchze for you...

ETA - I had a friend once who was wallowing in self-pity.  I told her to quit whining and get on with it.  Either kill yourself, or wake the fuck up and realize that life is what you make it.

That to me is what's at the core of nihilism.  People stereotype it as defeatism, but it's really all about taking control of your will.
 
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That's Nietchze for you...

ETA - I had a friend once who was wallowing in self-pity.  I told her to quit whining and get on with it.  Either kill yourself, or wake the fuck up and realize that life is what you make it.

That to me is what's at the core of nihilism.  People stereotype it as defeatism, but it's really all about taking control of your will.
 


I would agree- The Will to Power. Also I would consider it the will to use appropriate power to change ones circumstances.
Link Posted: 8/17/2013 9:35:50 AM EDT
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The first principle of Buddhism is "every man for himself".
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Oh, I'm sorry, sir! Uhh, we do have one today that's not on the menu. It's sort of a specialty of the house, you know.

... 'Live Organ Transplants'
Link Posted: 8/17/2013 9:54:09 AM EDT
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Nietzsche wore the armor of a warrior but had the sensitive soul of a girl.
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Interesting viewpoint.
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Link Posted: 8/17/2013 10:34:46 AM EDT
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"From chaos comes order."
Link Posted: 8/17/2013 10:40:58 AM EDT
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Ultimately..no ones opinion matters......
Link Posted: 8/17/2013 10:42:01 AM EDT
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depends on what it is being read for.

if someone is reading it to understand his importance in the history of ideas, great. that is worth doing.

if someone is reading it to argue with it, or looking to "prove" or "disprove" something, they should stick to things more at the level of ayn rand i.e. 'belief pop,' or perhaps self-help books. and in such cases, reading is for faggots, anyway, so why bother?

i don't think he is misunderstood. or, rather, he is largely misunderstood by those in the latter camp (particularly those that get hung up on nihilism). and they don't really matter. they just want to be on the right team and feel like they are a part of something meaningful.  




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that is a very common affliction.

and look, you can buy the t-shirt!




Link Posted: 8/17/2013 10:45:08 AM EDT
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Heck of a great guy once you get past his naked worship of power and those who wield it.


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Link Posted: 8/17/2013 10:50:37 AM EDT
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"Could it be possible? This old saint in the forest has not heard anything of this, that God is dead!"
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"Oh, blow it out your ass"
Link Posted: 8/17/2013 10:53:37 AM EDT
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That guy just needed Jesus in his life...
Link Posted: 8/17/2013 10:56:39 AM EDT
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Does it really matter?
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"God is dead" is probably one of the single most misunderstood, and willfully distorted, quotes in popular usage.

Link Posted: 8/17/2013 11:04:07 AM EDT
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nietsche is an interesting read.

ultimately he shows the fallacy of his own philosophy and knows it.

that's why he went bonkers.
Link Posted: 8/17/2013 11:11:19 AM EDT
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Sorry
Link Posted: 8/17/2013 11:13:22 AM EDT
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hes super...
Link Posted: 8/17/2013 11:18:30 AM EDT
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He must be a philosopher. He as an S in his name too.
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Link Posted: 8/17/2013 11:29:33 AM EDT
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Like a broken clock, he was spot on sometimes.
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Apology accepted.  



 
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Oh my god that is seriously funny.  CarbineKid has no clue why I am laughing so load at it.  
Link Posted: 8/17/2013 11:36:26 AM EDT
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Nietzsche is cool, but I prefer Schopenhauer.
Link Posted: 8/17/2013 11:37:24 AM EDT
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From the Latin for "Nothing".
Link Posted: 8/17/2013 11:38:41 AM EDT
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Funny, but rather twisted. It seems his sister who wanted money, power, and prestige took over his small collection of writings and used them to further her personal power and fortune. Also in "The Will to Power" it appears that there were a few forgeries and it was never meant to be published, it was simply his own notes.

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This. She was also responsible for presenting her brother as some sort of "proto-Nazi thinker," which he wasn't.
Link Posted: 8/17/2013 11:39:31 AM EDT
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Good one especially considering your avatar [
Link Posted: 8/17/2013 12:22:57 PM EDT
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Think so? I am wonderinf as I read what he wrote and some of the things he wrote really has me doing a wtf.

His thoughts on women for example...well worth a laugh.
Link Posted: 8/17/2013 12:23:50 PM EDT
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Agreed, that is fucking funny!

Thanks for lightening up my thread!
Link Posted: 8/17/2013 12:33:39 PM EDT
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Kierkegaard was a better existentialist philosopher and had much more interesting ideas in my opinion.
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