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Posted: 9/30/2013 5:07:08 AM EDT
Clackley recently joined fellow CPD officer Chris Whittle, Chilton County Sheriff’s Office deputy Britton Langston and Shelby County Sheriff’s Office deputy Nathan Kendrick in passing retired Federal Bureau of Investigation agent Buford Boone’s sniper/observer school in Tuscaloosa. Boone served in the FBI for 24 years, 15 of which saw him as the supervisory special agent of the FBI’s Ballistic Research Facility in Quantico, Va. During his tenure with the FBI, Boone also was a sniper and regularly led sniper schools in the agency. Since his retirement in 2012, Boone has continued leading sniper schools on a volunteer basis for a multitude of law enforcement agencies. Over the years, Boone has led 48 sniper schools serving more than 900 total students. “I’ve done them all over the country and even one outside the country,” Boone said, noting most of his schools are held in Tuscaloosa now. “There’s a lot more to being a sniper than just shooting. Shooting is a big part of my school, but it’s only a small part of what a sniper does.” None of the local officers who recently passed Boone’s class have had to take a sniper rifle shot to take a suspect down, but most have stood ready to do so during past incidents. “We are a small community, but there are six times we have had folks barricade themselves in their homes,” said Clanton Police Chief Brian Stilwell. “We have had our sniper ready to take the shot, but we have never had to resort to that. “I hope I never have to give that order.” http://www.clantonadvertiser.com/2013/09/26/training-helps-police-snipers-stand-ready-to-take-the-shot/ |
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Posted: 9/30/2013 5:39:32 AM EDT
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It's a decent class.
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Posted: 9/30/2013 5:52:17 AM EDT
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Seems pretty easy.
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benchmark test comes when the students are tasked with hitting a 2-by-4-inch target from 100 yards away 90 percent of the time they pull the trigger." |
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Posted: 9/30/2013 5:52:25 AM EDT
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FBI sniper for 24 yrs huh - wonder what he uses for practice targets?
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Posted: 9/30/2013 5:54:11 AM EDT
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FBI sniper for 24 yrs huh - wonder what he uses for practice targets? Political yard signs. |
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Posted: 9/30/2013 5:57:32 AM EDT
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LEO only class??
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Posted: 9/30/2013 6:12:19 AM EDT
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Rifle number two is mighty compact.
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Posted: 9/30/2013 6:12:37 AM EDT
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Wonder if any of his students participated in Waco or Ruby Ridge.
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Posted: 9/30/2013 6:30:40 AM EDT
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Seems pretty easy. [div style=' ']"The benchmark test comes when the students are tasked with hitting a 2-by-4-inch target from 100 yards away 90 percent of the time they pull the trigger." Like I said...it's "decent". Bufford's strong point is not such much his physical abilities or experience.....it's his technical knowledge. Especially as it relates to ballistics. |
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Posted: 9/30/2013 6:31:43 AM EDT
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FBI sniper for 24 yrs huh - wonder what he uses for practice targets? Having trained/dealt with FBI "snipers" I'd call them more "perimeter marksmen". |
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Posted: 9/30/2013 6:35:46 AM EDT
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Rifle number two is mighty compact. That stock still weighs a fuck-ton though 
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Posted: 9/30/2013 6:37:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Like I said...it's "decent". Bufford's strong point is not such much his physical abilities or experience.....it's his technical knowledge. Especially as it relates to ballistics. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Seems pretty easy. [div style=' ']"The benchmark test comes when the students are tasked with hitting a 2-by-4-inch target from 100 yards away 90 percent of the time they pull the trigger." Like I said...it's "decent". Bufford's strong point is not such much his physical abilities or experience.....it's his technical knowledge. Especially as it relates to ballistics. |
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Posted: 9/30/2013 6:44:35 AM EDT
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I'd love to take a class on precision shooting. Some day......
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Posted: 9/30/2013 6:47:43 AM EDT
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At least they are training. It's something....
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Posted: 9/30/2013 6:50:17 AM EDT
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Meanwhile, 100 yards away...
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Posted: 9/30/2013 6:59:37 AM EDT
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Pregnant woman targets?
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Posted: 9/30/2013 6:59:40 AM EDT
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Meanwhile, 100 yards away... http://www.carrickfergus.org/fs/img/Dogs-Control-Bill-Photo-web.jpg  
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Posted: 9/30/2013 7:00:29 AM EDT
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Those look like really bad prone positions to me.
Not a single bent leg, no open legged positions. |
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Posted: 9/30/2013 7:23:16 AM EDT
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Those look like really bad prone positions to me. Not a single bent leg, no open legged positions. Looks like a pretty standard LE sniper position to me. Minimal profile, feet dug in, allows for quickest follow up shot. |
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Posted: 9/30/2013 7:26:38 AM EDT
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Sounds like a fairly basic class, but then, they aren't generally asking PD snipers to make 600 yard shots in a 20 mph (gusting to 40) crosswind, with the guarantee of pursuit requiring exfil plans and evac points, etc. More like "Set up on that rooftop over there about 40 yards away and watch, if we need you to do anything, we'll tell you."
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Posted: 9/30/2013 7:40:34 AM EDT
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I alway thought it would be stupid easy to be a PD sniper. You mostly watch and observe and if you have to shoot, at max a shot at 100 yards.
And needing a $3,500 rifle to make those shots seem stupid to me. Im sure some cost more and some cost less, but you dont need much rifle to shoot sub moa at 100 yards. If I am wrong please school me. seems money would be better spent training like in op. 90% is unacceptable hit percentage at 100 yards. Come one, they call themselve snipers. They should be past this learning curve if they are already a PD sniper |
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Posted: 9/30/2013 8:23:49 AM EDT
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I've had the pleasure of working with Mr. Boone several times, as well as sitting down to supper with him once. He is arguably the most accomplished man in his field in the nation. He is also an exceptionally nice gentleman.
I've never had the pleasure of shooting with him, but I suspect he teaches an outstanding class. |
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Posted: 9/30/2013 8:32:26 AM EDT
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Political yard signs. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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FBI sniper for 24 yrs huh - wonder what he uses for practice targets? Political yard signs. They make great range targets, and they are free, you can pick them up anywhere. TXL |
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Posted: 9/30/2013 8:33:50 AM EDT
[#23]
in before the butt hurt.
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Posted: 9/30/2013 8:43:12 AM EDT
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LEO only class?? Yes |
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Posted: 9/30/2013 8:43:33 AM EDT
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Those look like really bad prone positions to me. Not a single bent leg, no open legged positions. Non-bent leg is ok, but the legs should be spread a bit with insides of the feet flat on the ground. If you can do it comfortably, it's a pretty stable position from what some of the AMU guys told me. Kinda like a wide-track Pontiac. ETA: I shoot highpower, but would love to take a precision rifle class. |
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Posted: 9/30/2013 3:43:40 PM EDT
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Good times.
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Posted: 9/30/2013 3:46:54 PM EDT
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Good times. I see at least two very sexy arfcops in that photo. |
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Posted: 9/30/2013 3:48:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I see at least two very sexy arfcops in that photo. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Good times. I see at least two very sexy arfcops in that photo. Me, homo, and who else? |
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Posted: 9/30/2013 3:51:41 PM EDT
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“We are a small community, but there are six times we have had folks barricade themselves in their homes,” said Clanton Police Chief Brian Stilwell. “We have had our sniper ready to take the shot Great- training to kill people in their own homes. and I don't know if they're as much "snipers" as they are just designated marksman. But everyone gets a trophy I suppose. |
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Posted: 9/30/2013 3:51:45 PM EDT
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Me, homo, and who else? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Good times. I see at least two very sexy arfcops in that photo. Me, homo, and who else? Geriatric man is damn sexy, in fact way more than you and homo. |
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Posted: 9/30/2013 3:52:34 PM EDT
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Great- training to kill people in their own homes. and I don't know if they're as much "snipers" as they are just designated marksman. But everyone gets a trophy I suppose. Quote HistoryQuoted:
“We are a small community, but there are six times we have had folks barricade themselves in their homes,” said Clanton Police Chief Brian Stilwell. “We have had our sniper ready to take the shot Great- training to kill people in their own homes. and I don't know if they're as much "snipers" as they are just designated marksman. But everyone gets a trophy I suppose. Go away. |
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Posted: 9/30/2013 3:56:12 PM EDT
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holy balls do those guys have poor form.....
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Posted: 9/30/2013 3:56:27 PM EDT
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I alway thought it would be stupid easy to be a PD sniper. You mostly watch and observe and if you have to shoot, at max a shot at 100 yards. And needing a $3,500 rifle to make those shots seem stupid to me. Im sure some cost more and some cost less, but you dont need much rifle to shoot sub moa at 100 yards. If I am wrong please school me. seems money would be better spent training like in op. 90% is unacceptable hit percentage at 100 yards. Come one, they call themselve snipers. They should be past this learning curve if they are already a PD sniper big difference between military and police....generally you are aiming for a 1moa area at 100 yards, and your subject will be generally 75 yards in and less .mil is aiming over very long distances, all in all however the moa is still the same.... its not that easy.... been to multiple schools |
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Posted: 9/30/2013 3:56:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Great- training to kill people in their own homes. and I don't know if they're as much "snipers" as they are just designated marksman. But everyone gets a trophy I suppose. Quote HistoryQuoted: "We are a small community, but there are six times we have had folks barricade themselves in their homes,” said Clanton Police Chief Brian Stilwell. "We have had our sniper ready to take the shot Great- training to kill people in their own homes. and I don't know if they're as much "snipers" as they are just designated marksman. But everyone gets a trophy I suppose. Call it what you like. Being able to take a precise shot at some distance is useful in a lot of LE scenarios. |
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Posted: 9/30/2013 3:57:47 PM EDT
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Lots of stylish cargo pockets on display
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Posted: 9/30/2013 3:58:00 PM EDT
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Great- training to kill people in their own homes. and I don't know if they're as much "snipers" as they are just designated marksman. But everyone gets a trophy I suppose. Quote HistoryQuoted:
“We are a small community, but there are six times we have had folks barricade themselves in their homes,” said Clanton Police Chief Brian Stilwell. “We have had our sniper ready to take the shot Great- training to kill people in their own homes. and I don't know if they're as much "snipers" as they are just designated marksman. But everyone gets a trophy I suppose. and what do you do bro? bless your heart by the way |
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Posted: 9/30/2013 3:58:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: LEO only class?? all the info you need is in the PDF flyer attached,... who is this class geared for? someone who hasnt shot much past 100/200y and wants to stretch their legs some, someone that wants to get into the tactical precision rifle sport or someone who is new to the sport and wants to get better. someone that wants to lean how to you there tools to achieve the best results they can, and pick up some helpful tips to get even better. |
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Posted: 9/30/2013 4:00:23 PM EDT
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holy balls do those guys have poor form..... Please post pics of your form. What would you consider a proper prone form for shooting presicion? Remember this is pretty short range shooting. LE snipers aren't going to take a 900 yrd shot. Being in line with the rifle for a quick follow up shot is pretty basic. |
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Posted: 9/30/2013 4:02:50 PM EDT
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NRA precision rifle is police only.... if you close to ohio, you can take my class, we shoot out to 900y [div style='font-family: tahoma, arial; background-color: rgb(215, 215, 215);']all the info you need is in the PDF flyer attached,... [div style='font-family: tahoma, arial; background-color: rgb(215, 215, 215);'] [div style='font-family: tahoma, arial; background-color: rgb(215, 215, 215);']https://www.box.com/s/m6f3ykzu391w5m1d5qvj [div style='font-family: tahoma, arial; background-color: rgb(215, 215, 215);'] [div style='font-family: tahoma, arial; background-color: rgb(215, 215, 215);']who is this class geared for? [div style='font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica;']someone who hasnt shot much past 100/200y and wants to stretch their legs some, someone that wants to get into the tactical precision rifle sport or someone who is new to the sport and wants to get better. someone that wants to lean how to you there tools to achieve the best results they can, and pick up some helpful tips to get even better. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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LEO only class?? [div style='font-family: tahoma, arial; background-color: rgb(215, 215, 215);']all the info you need is in the PDF flyer attached,... [div style='font-family: tahoma, arial; background-color: rgb(215, 215, 215);'] [div style='font-family: tahoma, arial; background-color: rgb(215, 215, 215);']https://www.box.com/s/m6f3ykzu391w5m1d5qvj [div style='font-family: tahoma, arial; background-color: rgb(215, 215, 215);'] [div style='font-family: tahoma, arial; background-color: rgb(215, 215, 215);']who is this class geared for? [div style='font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica;']someone who hasnt shot much past 100/200y and wants to stretch their legs some, someone that wants to get into the tactical precision rifle sport or someone who is new to the sport and wants to get better. someone that wants to lean how to you there tools to achieve the best results they can, and pick up some helpful tips to get even better. Are you the guy whose PD offered a badge in exchange for training the dept? |
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Posted: 9/30/2013 4:06:49 PM EDT
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This thread is going exactly like I thought it would
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Posted: 9/30/2013 4:08:23 PM EDT
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NRA precision rifle is police only.... if you close to ohio, you can take my class, we shoot out to 900y [div style='font-family: tahoma, arial; background-color: rgb(215, 215, 215);']all the info you need is in the PDF flyer attached,... [div style='font-family: tahoma, arial; background-color: rgb(215, 215, 215);'] [div style='font-family: tahoma, arial; background-color: rgb(215, 215, 215);']https://www.box.com/s/m6f3ykzu391w5m1d5qvj [div style='font-family: tahoma, arial; background-color: rgb(215, 215, 215);'] [div style='font-family: tahoma, arial; background-color: rgb(215, 215, 215);']who is this class geared for? [div style='font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica;']someone who hasnt shot much past 100/200y and wants to stretch their legs some, someone that wants to get into the tactical precision rifle sport or someone who is new to the sport and wants to get better. someone that wants to lean how to you there tools to achieve the best results they can, and pick up some helpful tips to get even better. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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LEO only class?? [div style='font-family: tahoma, arial; background-color: rgb(215, 215, 215);']all the info you need is in the PDF flyer attached,... [div style='font-family: tahoma, arial; background-color: rgb(215, 215, 215);'] [div style='font-family: tahoma, arial; background-color: rgb(215, 215, 215);']https://www.box.com/s/m6f3ykzu391w5m1d5qvj [div style='font-family: tahoma, arial; background-color: rgb(215, 215, 215);'] [div style='font-family: tahoma, arial; background-color: rgb(215, 215, 215);']who is this class geared for? [div style='font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica;']someone who hasnt shot much past 100/200y and wants to stretch their legs some, someone that wants to get into the tactical precision rifle sport or someone who is new to the sport and wants to get better. someone that wants to lean how to you there tools to achieve the best results they can, and pick up some helpful tips to get even better. Not the same class. The class taught by Boone is a 40hr class. Sponsored by the FBI and free to PDs. |
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Posted: 9/30/2013 4:08:40 PM EDT
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This thread is going exactly like I thought it would its to easy now... |
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Posted: 9/30/2013 4:10:23 PM EDT
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NRA precision rifle is police only.... if you close to ohio, you can take my class, we shoot out to 900y [div style='font-family: tahoma, arial; background-color: rgb(215, 215, 215);']all the info you need is in the PDF flyer attached,... [div style='font-family: tahoma, arial; background-color: rgb(215, 215, 215);'] [div style='font-family: tahoma, arial; background-color: rgb(215, 215, 215);']https://www.box.com/s/m6f3ykzu391w5m1d5qvj [div style='font-family: tahoma, arial; background-color: rgb(215, 215, 215);'] [div style='font-family: tahoma, arial; background-color: rgb(215, 215, 215);']who is this class geared for? [div style='font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica;']someone who hasnt shot much past 100/200y and wants to stretch their legs some, someone that wants to get into the tactical precision rifle sport or someone who is new to the sport and wants to get better. someone that wants to lean how to you there tools to achieve the best results they can, and pick up some helpful tips to get even better. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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LEO only class?? [div style='font-family: tahoma, arial; background-color: rgb(215, 215, 215);']all the info you need is in the PDF flyer attached,... [div style='font-family: tahoma, arial; background-color: rgb(215, 215, 215);'] [div style='font-family: tahoma, arial; background-color: rgb(215, 215, 215);']https://www.box.com/s/m6f3ykzu391w5m1d5qvj [div style='font-family: tahoma, arial; background-color: rgb(215, 215, 215);'] [div style='font-family: tahoma, arial; background-color: rgb(215, 215, 215);']who is this class geared for? [div style='font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica;']someone who hasnt shot much past 100/200y and wants to stretch their legs some, someone that wants to get into the tactical precision rifle sport or someone who is new to the sport and wants to get better. someone that wants to lean how to you there tools to achieve the best results they can, and pick up some helpful tips to get even better. Are you kidding me??? |
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Posted: 9/30/2013 4:10:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Looks like a pretty standard LE sniper position to me. Minimal profile, feet dug in, allows for quickest follow up shot. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Those look like really bad prone positions to me. Not a single bent leg, no open legged positions. Looks like a pretty standard LE sniper position to me. Minimal profile, feet dug in, allows for quickest follow up shot. this is proper...  |
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Posted: 9/30/2013 4:11:12 PM EDT
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NRA precision rifle is police only.... if you close to ohio, you can take my class, we shoot out to 900y [div style='font-family: tahoma, arial; background-color: rgb(215, 215, 215);']all the info you need is in the PDF flyer attached,... [div style='font-family: tahoma, arial; background-color: rgb(215, 215, 215);'] [div style='font-family: tahoma, arial; background-color: rgb(215, 215, 215);']https://www.box.com/s/m6f3ykzu391w5m1d5qvj [div style='font-family: tahoma, arial; background-color: rgb(215, 215, 215);'] [div style='font-family: tahoma, arial; background-color: rgb(215, 215, 215);']who is this class geared for? [div style='font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica;']someone who hasnt shot much past 100/200y and wants to stretch their legs some, someone that wants to get into the tactical precision rifle sport or someone who is new to the sport and wants to get better. someone that wants to lean how to you there tools to achieve the best results they can, and pick up some helpful tips to get even better. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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LEO only class?? [div style='font-family: tahoma, arial; background-color: rgb(215, 215, 215);']all the info you need is in the PDF flyer attached,... [div style='font-family: tahoma, arial; background-color: rgb(215, 215, 215);'] [div style='font-family: tahoma, arial; background-color: rgb(215, 215, 215);']https://www.box.com/s/m6f3ykzu391w5m1d5qvj [div style='font-family: tahoma, arial; background-color: rgb(215, 215, 215);'] [div style='font-family: tahoma, arial; background-color: rgb(215, 215, 215);']who is this class geared for? [div style='font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica;']someone who hasnt shot much past 100/200y and wants to stretch their legs some, someone that wants to get into the tactical precision rifle sport or someone who is new to the sport and wants to get better. someone that wants to lean how to you there tools to achieve the best results they can, and pick up some helpful tips to get even better. 150 rounds 
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Posted: 9/30/2013 4:13:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Please post pics of your form. What would you consider a proper prone form for shooting presicion? Remember this is pretty short range shooting. LE snipers aren't going to take a 900 yrd shot. Being in line with the rifle for a quick follow up shot is pretty basic. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: holy balls do those guys have poor form..... Please post pics of your form. What would you consider a proper prone form for shooting presicion? Remember this is pretty short range shooting. LE snipers aren't going to take a 900 yrd shot. Being in line with the rifle for a quick follow up shot is pretty basic. |
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Posted: 9/30/2013 4:14:40 PM EDT
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LEO only class?? [div style='font-family: tahoma, arial; background-color: rgb(215, 215, 215);']all the info you need is in the PDF flyer attached,... [div style='font-family: tahoma, arial; background-color: rgb(215, 215, 215);'] [div style='font-family: tahoma, arial; background-color: rgb(215, 215, 215);']https://www.box.com/s/m6f3ykzu391w5m1d5qvj [div style='font-family: tahoma, arial; background-color: rgb(215, 215, 215);'] [div style='font-family: tahoma, arial; background-color: rgb(215, 215, 215);']who is this class geared for? [div style='font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica;']someone who hasnt shot much past 100/200y and wants to stretch their legs some, someone that wants to get into the tactical precision rifle sport or someone who is new to the sport and wants to get better. someone that wants to lean how to you there tools to achieve the best results they can, and pick up some helpful tips to get even better. 150 rounds
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Posted: 9/30/2013 4:15:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Are you the guy whose PD offered a badge in exchange for training the dept? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: LEO only class?? [div style='font-family: tahoma, arial; background-color: rgb(215, 215, 215);']all the info you need is in the PDF flyer attached,... [div style='font-family: tahoma, arial; background-color: rgb(215, 215, 215);'] [div style='font-family: tahoma, arial; background-color: rgb(215, 215, 215);']https://www.box.com/s/m6f3ykzu391w5m1d5qvj [div style='font-family: tahoma, arial; background-color: rgb(215, 215, 215);'] [div style='font-family: tahoma, arial; background-color: rgb(215, 215, 215);']who is this class geared for? [div style='font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica;']someone who hasnt shot much past 100/200y and wants to stretch their legs some, someone that wants to get into the tactical precision rifle sport or someone who is new to the sport and wants to get better. someone that wants to lean how to you there tools to achieve the best results they can, and pick up some helpful tips to get even better. Are you the guy whose PD offered a badge in exchange for training the dept? |
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Posted: 9/30/2013 4:17:22 PM EDT
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Good times. I see at least two very sexy arfcops in that photo. Me, homo, and who else? I knew I saw some sexy on the firing line. |
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Posted: 9/30/2013 4:18:38 PM EDT
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Having trained/dealt with FBI "snipers" I'd call them more "perimeter marksmen". Quote HistoryQuoted:
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FBI sniper for 24 yrs huh - wonder what he uses for practice targets? Having trained/dealt with FBI "snipers" I'd call them more "perimeter marksmen". Agreed. |
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