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Posted: 3/7/2014 9:40:00 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/7/2014 9:41:28 AM EDT
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ghetto
. Thermodynamic + Economics question remains: . ( where they getting the ICE from ? |
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Posted: 3/7/2014 9:41:50 AM EDT
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GseriesFAL has a DIY channel now?
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Posted: 3/7/2014 9:42:39 AM EDT
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That may work well in a dry environment like we have in the western states.
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Posted: 3/7/2014 9:45:22 AM EDT
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ghetto . Thermodynamic + Economics question remains: . ( where they getting the ICE from ? My thoughts as well. It is an interesting idea, but you still need a source for the coolant. Though I have seen some interesting builds for solar freezers to generate ice. |
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Posted: 3/7/2014 9:46:38 AM EDT
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Im thinking 55 gallon drum, go big or go home
 Doubles as a beer cooler!
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Posted: 3/7/2014 9:47:34 AM EDT
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My thoughts as well. It is an interesting idea, but you still need a source for the coolant. Though I have seen some interesting builds for solar freezers to generate ice. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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ghetto . Thermodynamic + Economics question remains: . ( where they getting the ICE from ? My thoughts as well. It is an interesting idea, but you still need a source for the coolant. Though I have seen some interesting builds for solar freezers to generate ice. What do they use? Batteries to store the juice and peltiers to cool the water? |
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Posted: 3/7/2014 9:53:13 AM EDT
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ghetto . Thermodynamic + Economics question remains: . ( where they getting the ICE from ? Yeah it still requires somebody/something to make ice with. So you'll be making or buying ice regularly to fill the makeshift airconditioner with. |
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Posted: 3/7/2014 9:54:23 AM EDT
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Swamp cooler would be easier to make at home
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Posted: 3/7/2014 9:57:21 AM EDT
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tag for home
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Posted: 3/7/2014 9:57:58 AM EDT
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i tried something like this when my ac died a couple years ago not very effective at all when it's 100+
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Posted: 3/7/2014 10:01:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: i tried something like this when my ac died a couple years ago not very effective at all when it's 100+ http://i1057.photobucket.com/albums/t384/linkhyrule70/67583924.jpg I couldn't believe it worked that well. Got us through the night until the repair guy showed up the next day. |
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Posted: 3/7/2014 10:06:40 AM EDT
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Actually that would a good idea to have on store for hurricane supplies.
During the summer when it is hot as hell and a hurricane hits and you are without power for awhile then you could have some cooling as long as the ice jugs in your freezer last, which could be a couple of days. A couple of days of cooling is better than none at all. Of course the better idea is to get a small 1000 watt window AC unit in a small bedroom and a small quiet fuel efficient Honda generator to run it and just make sure you have plenty of fuel on hand.That way you could have cooling for a couple of weeks. |
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Posted: 3/7/2014 10:11:38 AM EDT
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it's a cool idea, if you had a solar panel or two you could power the fan. one thing you could use is a milk jug. fill it up, freeze it and then use it. once it metls, freeze again and then use. you'd just need a way to freeze stuff. i think this would only work in a small room too. |
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Posted: 3/7/2014 10:14:36 AM EDT
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The energy released from 10lbs of frozen ice is nothing... compared to what it takes to cool the volume of even a small home. This would be good for blowing direct on a person in a chair, and not be very effective at all at controlling the temp of a room.
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Posted: 3/7/2014 10:25:56 AM EDT
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Need a solar powered freezer as well!
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Posted: 3/7/2014 10:31:55 AM EDT
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Yeah it still requires somebody/something to make ice with. So you'll be making or buying ice regularly to fill the makeshift airconditioner with. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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ghetto . Thermodynamic + Economics question remains: . ( where they getting the ICE from ? Yeah it still requires somebody/something to make ice with. So you'll be making or buying ice regularly to fill the makeshift airconditioner with. How does the cost of making/buying ice compare to running the AC for 5 hours. He said his gallon container of ice should last about 5 hours. You'd of course have to take into account the small area this cools. My power bill during the summer is never over $180 during the hottest months. So that's like $6/day to run the entire house of all needed electricity...2400 Sqft, 2 stories. |
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Posted: 3/7/2014 10:56:37 AM EDT
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Wouldn't it also eventually be putting out a lot of humidity? humidity+heat= sucky
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Posted: 3/7/2014 10:58:01 AM EDT
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Wouldn't it also eventually be putting out a lot of humidity? humidity+heat= sucky No. His ice is contained within a 1 gallon milk jug. So you're not giving off humidity as the ice melts. |
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Posted: 3/7/2014 11:00:31 AM EDT
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What do they use? Batteries to store the juice and peltiers to cool the water? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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ghetto . Thermodynamic + Economics question remains: . ( where they getting the ICE from ? My thoughts as well. It is an interesting idea, but you still need a source for the coolant. Though I have seen some interesting builds for solar freezers to generate ice. What do they use? Batteries to store the juice and peltiers to cool the water? How to Build a Solar Icemaker It's a freaking huge contraption and still requires ammonia, but I thought it was pretty 'cool'. edit: changed link to a full version of the PDF |
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Posted: 3/7/2014 12:23:43 PM EDT
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i tried something like this when my ac died a couple years ago not very effective at all when it's 100+ http://i1057.photobucket.com/albums/t384/linkhyrule70/67583924.jpg Air conditioners are rated in "tons" of cooling capacity. You would need to melt 2,000 pounds (one ton) of ice every 24 hours in order to produce the same cooling as a 1-ton air conditioner - and that's just 12,000 BTUs. Most residential air conditioners are considerably larger than 12,000 BTUs. |
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Posted: 3/7/2014 12:29:50 PM EDT
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Goes great with the tea light and flowerpot heater.
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Posted: 3/7/2014 2:06:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The energy released from 10lbs of frozen ice is nothing... compared to what it takes to cool the volume of even a small home. This would be good for blowing direct on a person in a chair, and not be very effective at all at controlling the temp of a room. Get through a sticky nice easy enough |
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Posted: 3/7/2014 3:05:08 PM EDT
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It may make a small area more bearable for a while, but if the ice is made by a freezer inside of your home, the cooling you get from that A/C will be more than offset by heat created by the freezer - both the heat removed from the water plus waste heat from the motor.
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Posted: 3/7/2014 3:10:03 PM EDT
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Bah you dont even need the stupid fan...
hang a bucket of ice with a pipe through it from the ceiling |
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Posted: 3/7/2014 3:12:59 PM EDT
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The term BTU (British thermal unit) Is the amount of heat required to melt 2000# of ice in a 24hr period.
So this is what a 1/225h of a ton of cooling |
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Posted: 3/7/2014 3:16:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My thoughts as well. It is an interesting idea, but you still need a source for the coolant. Though I have seen some interesting builds for solar freezers to generate ice. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: ghetto . Thermodynamic + Economics question remains: . ( where they getting the ICE from ? My thoughts as well. It is an interesting idea, but you still need a source for the coolant. Though I have seen some interesting builds for solar freezers to generate ice. |
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Posted: 3/7/2014 4:06:27 PM EDT
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He aimed the handheld pryometer right through one of the PVC "Ducts" right at the frozen gallon jug and got 43 degrees?
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Posted: 3/7/2014 4:20:10 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/7/2014 4:23:35 PM EDT
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No. His ice is contained within a 1 gallon milk jug. So you're not giving off humidity as the ice melts. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Wouldn't it also eventually be putting out a lot of humidity? humidity+heat= sucky No. His ice is contained within a 1 gallon milk jug. So you're not giving off humidity as the ice melts. Yes. What about the water condensing on the gallon jug? Swamp coolers no matter how they are made suck when the humidity goes up. They are only effective in arid climates, like Arizona, but during monsoon season they are useless. May as well just have the fan on. |
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Posted: 3/8/2014 6:34:40 AM EDT
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Yes. What about the water condensing on the gallon jug? Swamp coolers no matter how they are made suck when the humidity goes up. They are only effective in arid climates, like Arizona, but during monsoon season they are useless. May as well just have the fan on. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Wouldn't it also eventually be putting out a lot of humidity? humidity+heat= sucky No. His ice is contained within a 1 gallon milk jug. So you're not giving off humidity as the ice melts. Yes. What about the water condensing on the gallon jug? Swamp coolers no matter how they are made suck when the humidity goes up. They are only effective in arid climates, like Arizona, but during monsoon season they are useless. May as well just have the fan on. This is what I was thinking, the condensation, not the melt. |
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Posted: 3/8/2014 6:36:28 AM EDT
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i like how he drilled love holes in his homer bucket
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Posted: 3/8/2014 6:37:01 AM EDT
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I spent $50 on a used GoldStar wall window mount. Cheaper in the long run.
The thing still runs. |
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Posted: 3/8/2014 7:25:25 AM EDT
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EBT pays for ice, yo.
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