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Posted: 6/2/2014 4:33:49 AM EDT
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All signs point to deserter and traitor, but thanks to the story the Army generated about him lost on patrol and promoting him twice what the fuck can they do about it now? Simple. The Truth. It needs to be there, this admin has been running on fairy tales for 6 years, but the truth is still there. TXL |
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Posted: 6/2/2014 4:40:12 AM EDT
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Lets see how Obama spins this one, especially since the guys in his unit say that they were forced to sign NDA's but don't care because this is so outrageous. They are going to tell the truth and make it be known that this guy caused the death of six men that were sent out to look for him.
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Posted: 6/2/2014 4:42:11 AM EDT
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fuck that dude in the ass with a razor dildo.
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Posted: 6/2/2014 4:52:58 AM EDT
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Two members voted "hero". I didn't know Bill Ayers and Obama were members here.  Ron Paul and Adam Kokesh |
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Posted: 6/2/2014 5:01:15 AM EDT
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He's a major domestic security risk if he's allowed to go free when he returns to the States, that much is sure. Shouldn't DHS have done something to prevent the release of those who's life goal is to destroy us? TXL |
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Posted: 6/2/2014 5:06:07 AM EDT
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Bowe Bergdahl. Hero, Deserter, or Traitor? I don't know enough of the facts around the case to make a rational and reasonable decision. |
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Posted: 6/2/2014 5:07:01 AM EDT
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For one minute I don't believe he was kidnapped or lost on patrol. I believe he was disillusioned and decided to leave in his own way by walking off post. I also don't believe he first intended on going to the Taliban, but he knew it was a possibility to be caught by them and that's why he left his rifle at the post.
Once in the Taliban's hands, no one but he and Taliban know what occurred and what information he gave them. At the time he walked off his post or away from his squad, he lost all the respect and honor given to the other heroes in the service for our country. |
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Posted: 6/2/2014 5:09:17 AM EDT
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His dad damned well better be on some watchlists.
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Posted: 6/2/2014 5:10:16 AM EDT
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Life imitating art ? Homeland .
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Posted: 6/2/2014 5:22:28 AM EDT
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All signs point to deserter and traitor, but thanks to the story the Army generated about him lost on patrol and promoting him twice what the fuck can they do about it now? I know one of the guys who was in his squad with him when this all went down. They all had to sign NDA's but he has told me enough to know that their is no doubt that this scumbag deserted. What is in doubt is how much he told told the Taliban whom he actively sought out after deserting. Anyway you look at it, because of him at least six good men were killed. and many more WIA. There needs to be redemption. |
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Posted: 6/2/2014 5:36:06 AM EDT
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I know one of the guys who was in his squad with him when this all went down. They all had to sign NDA's but he has told me enough to know that their is no doubt that this scumbag deserted. What is in doubt is how much he told told the Taliban whom he actively sought out after deserting. Anyway you look at it, because of him at least six good men were killed. and many more WIA. There needs to be redemption. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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All signs point to deserter and traitor, but thanks to the story the Army generated about him lost on patrol and promoting him twice what the fuck can they do about it now? I know one of the guys who was in his squad with him when this all went down. They all had to sign NDA's but he has told me enough to know that their is no doubt that this scumbag deserted. What is in doubt is how much he told told the Taliban whom he actively sought out after deserting. Anyway you look at it, because of him at least six good men were killed. and many more WIA. There needs to be redemption. What is the possibility of all involved in signing the NDA's to refute them as being forced to sign? |
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Posted: 6/2/2014 5:39:18 AM EDT
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even CNN is bringing up that many are calling him a deserter
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Posted: 6/2/2014 5:42:51 AM EDT
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even CNN is bringing up that many are calling him a deserter They don't wanna be on the wrong side of this issue |
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Posted: 6/2/2014 5:44:37 AM EDT
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For one minute I don't believe he was kidnapped or lost on patrol. I believe he was disillusioned and decided to leave in his own way by walking off post. I also don't believe he first intended on going to the Taliban, but he knew it was a possibility to be caught by them and that's why he left his rifle at the post. Once in the Taliban's hands, no one but he and Taliban know what occurred and what information he gave them. At the time he walked off his post or away from his squad, he lost all the respect and honor given to the other heroes in the service for our country. ...and you would be wrong in your belief. I have it on good account that he was actively seeking them out, asking the locals to point him toward the Taliban after he deserted. |
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Posted: 6/2/2014 5:48:44 AM EDT
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https://www.facebook.com/Operatorasphuk/posts/1498917640323682:0 If that's all true this guy needs to be charged. I can't even believe we would trade for him. I'm in disbelief, and shock right now. Quote HistoryQuoted:
we lost good men trying to find him. PFC Matthew Michael Martinek, Staff Sgt. Kurt Robert Curtiss, SSG Clayton Bowen, PFC Morris Walker, SSG Michael Murphrey, 2LT Darryn Andrews, were all KIA from our unit who died looking for Bergdahl. Many others from various units were wounded or killed while actively looking for Bergdahl. Don't feed into the hype. Fuck this guy.
"Forwarded from Jeff Howard. "We were at OP Mest, Paktika Province, Afghanistan. It was a small outpost where B Co 1-501st INF (Airbone) ran operations out of, just an Infantry platoon and ANA counterparts there. The place was an Afghan graveyard. Bergdahl had been acting a little strange, telling people he wanted to "walk the earth" and kept a little journal talking about how he was meant for better things. No one thought anything about it. He was a little "out there”. Next morning he's gone. We search everywhere, and can't find him. He left his weapon, his kit, and other sensitive items. He only took some water, a compass and a knife. We find some afghan kids shortly after who saw an american walking north asking about where the taliban are. We get hits on our voice intercepter that Taliban has him, and we were close. We come to realize the kid deserted his post, snuck out of camp and sought out Taliban… to join them. If that's all true this guy needs to be charged. I can't even believe we would trade for him. I'm in disbelief, and shock right now. You can't believe FBHO would release 5 jihadists for one American jihadist sympathizer. Where have you been since 2008? 
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Posted: 6/2/2014 5:50:12 AM EDT
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Now let's make a deal with Mexico. We will trade them 10,000,000 illegals for one Marine. Now there's a deal I can support. Just take the illegals here in OH first. |
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Posted: 6/2/2014 5:54:28 AM EDT
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Fuck him. Throw him in gitmo amd water board. Exhile the whole family. This. |
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Posted: 6/2/2014 5:54:36 AM EDT
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...and you would be wrong in your belief. I have it on good account that he was actively seeking them out, asking the locals to point him toward the Taliban after he deserted. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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For one minute I don't believe he was kidnapped or lost on patrol. I believe he was disillusioned and decided to leave in his own way by walking off post. I also don't believe he first intended on going to the Taliban, but he knew it was a possibility to be caught by them and that's why he left his rifle at the post. Once in the Taliban's hands, no one but he and Taliban know what occurred and what information he gave them. At the time he walked off his post or away from his squad, he lost all the respect and honor given to the other heroes in the service for our country. ...and you would be wrong in your belief. I have it on good account that he was actively seeking them out, asking the locals to point him toward the Taliban after he deserted. I've been wrong at least once before. |
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Posted: 6/2/2014 5:57:13 AM EDT
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He's a major domestic security risk if he's allowed to go free when he returns to the States, that much is sure. This. Pretty ominous that guys like him (and his dad) were/are lurking in the shadows in our country. Look for the next terrorist attack to be carried out by American born islamists. And not the prison convert NOI types, |
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Posted: 6/2/2014 6:09:01 AM EDT
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Now let's make a deal with Mexico. We will trade them 10,000,000 illegals for one Marine. 
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Posted: 6/2/2014 6:10:18 AM EDT
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Another story from a Soldier who served with Bergdahl, Nathan Bradley Bethea. This was particularly interesting:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/06/02/we-lost-soldiers-in-the-hunt-for-bergdahl-a-guy-who-walked-off-in-the-dead-of-night.html# Bergdahl was not the first American soldier in modern history to walk away blindly. As I write this in Seoul, I'm about 40 miles from where an American sergeant defected to North Korea in 1965. Charles Robert Jenkins later admitted that he was terrified of being sent to Vietnam, so he got drunk and wandered off on a patrol. He was finally released in 2004, after almost 40 hellish years of brutal internment. The Army court-martialed him, sentencing him to 30 days' confinement and a dishonorable discharge. He now lives peacefully with his wife in Japan—they met in captivity in North Korea, where they were both forced to teach foreign languages to DPRK agents. His desertion barely warranted a comment, but he was not hailed as a hero. He was met with sympathy and humanity, and he was allowed to live his life, but he had to answer for what he did.
I believe that Bergdahl also deserves sympathy, but he has much to answer for, some of which is far more damning than simply having walked off. Many have suffered because of his actions: his fellow soldiers, their families, his family, the Afghan military, the unaffiliated Afghan civilians in Paktika, and none of this suffering was inevitable. None of it had to happen. Therefore, while I’m pleased that he’s safe, I believe there is an explanation due. Reprimanding him might yield horrible press for the Army, making our longest war even less popular than it is today. Retrieving him at least reminds soldiers that we will never abandon them to their fates, right or wrong. In light of the propaganda value, I do not expect the Department of Defense to punish Bergdahl. |
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Posted: 6/2/2014 6:11:54 AM EDT
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By deserting under the circumstances he did, he effectively became a traitor, imo. Yep |
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Posted: 6/2/2014 6:17:33 AM EDT
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Now let's make a deal with Mexico. We will trade them 10,000,000 illegals for one Marine. +1! |
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Posted: 6/2/2014 6:18:14 AM EDT
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If true - deserter. However I think he got smacked (or other things) by the hard dick of reality. Typical of libtards his age when he "grew a brain" and thought walking off would be better, as if the Taliban would see his ways... That being said, he doesn't deserve any more time in captivity, tried, anything. He's served his hell I'm sure. Just because he might have played their game in captivity doesn't mean they didn't fuck his world up. What he does deserve is to be discharged, and left in peace. I don't care who you are - 5 years with the Taliban will ruin your life and smash your rose colored glasses. Bullshit! How will he repay the men who died trying to "rescue" him? 
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Posted: 6/2/2014 6:19:36 AM EDT
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Deserter
Also responsible for 5 solders deaths looking for him |
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Posted: 6/2/2014 6:23:54 AM EDT
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Based on this dudes backstory, is it any suprise the administration was excitted for the exchange to secure his release?
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Posted: 6/2/2014 6:23:57 AM EDT
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I'd like to hear something from some of the people voting "hero." Don't be afraid to come in here and defend your opinion. There must be more to it than anonymous trolling on this poll. It's no doubt the same ones who consider Manning and Snowden to be heroes.
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Posted: 6/2/2014 6:27:28 AM EDT
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All he needs right here.
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Posted: 6/2/2014 6:33:28 AM EDT
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During my time at Ft. Bragg in the 1990s one of my buddies that was in basic and Airborne with me deserted but eventually came back through a amnesty process that gave him a dishonorable discharge. But what Bergdahl did goes beyond what my buddy's as this was during war time and endangered other soldier's lives.
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Posted: 6/2/2014 6:37:00 AM EDT
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His dad damned well better be on some watchlists. No--those "lists" are reserved for dangerous "terrorists" like Tea Party members. 
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Posted: 6/2/2014 6:55:00 AM EDT
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FUCK berghdal, he is a Traitor and good men died because of him. More will die in the future. Those released fiveTaliban leaders will go back to making war and killing. |
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Posted: 6/2/2014 6:57:11 AM EDT
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Deserter and attempted traitor, even hajj didn't want his dumb ass.
Gurantee he tries to blow something up within 5 years
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Posted: 6/2/2014 7:00:19 AM EDT
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It was necessary to free him in order to once again try and focus all attention on "BUSH'S WARZ!!1!" as a build up to the election. Can't have people focusing on every other failure... Now the Democrats have a new talking head who will say how the Taliban are awesome, cute and cuddly and the Great Satan sucks monkey dick.
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Posted: 6/2/2014 7:06:47 AM EDT
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I do not know all the details of what happened when he disappeared just internet rumors, if those rumors are remotely true.
All I can think about is the television show "Homeland" |
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Posted: 6/2/2014 7:07:30 AM EDT
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Bullshit! How will he repay the men who died trying to "rescue" him? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If true - deserter. However I think he got smacked (or other things) by the hard dick of reality. Typical of libtards his age when he "grew a brain" and thought walking off would be better, as if the Taliban would see his ways... That being said, he doesn't deserve any more time in captivity, tried, anything. He's served his hell I'm sure. Just because he might have played their game in captivity doesn't mean they didn't fuck his world up. What he does deserve is to be discharged, and left in peace. I don't care who you are - 5 years with the Taliban will ruin your life and smash your rose colored glasses. Bullshit! How will he repay the men who died trying to "rescue" him? I refuse to use the word rescue to describe that. Recapture is more suited, IMO. |
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Posted: 6/2/2014 7:11:55 AM EDT
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People are just starting to find out that the official version is a pack of lies. The fallout should be interesting.
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Posted: 6/2/2014 7:17:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If true - deserter. However I think he got smacked (or other things) by the hard dick of reality. Typical of libtards his age when he "grew a brain" and thought walking off would be better, as if the Taliban would see his ways... That being said, he doesn't deserve any more time in captivity, tried, anything. He's served his hell I'm sure. Just because he might have played their game in captivity doesn't mean they didn't fuck his world up. What he does deserve is to be discharged, and left in peace. I don't care who you are - 5 years with the Taliban will ruin your life and smash your rose colored glasses. I think you are the one wearing the rose colored glasses. You don't think it's a coincidence his father (remember he was homeschooled) back in the states is an islam sympathizer? You really think he was "captured"? |
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Posted: 6/2/2014 7:20:00 AM EDT
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Good, only 24 people are currently retarded in GD.
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Posted: 6/2/2014 7:20:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How do we really know this guy goes AWOL and who 'hates America' did not participate in attacks on Americans with the Taliban? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: If true - deserter. However I think he got smacked (or other things) by the hard dick of reality. Typical of libtards his age when he "grew a brain" and thought walking off would be better, as if the Taliban would see his ways... That being said, he doesn't deserve any more time in captivity, tried, anything. He's served his hell I'm sure. Just because he might have played their game in captivity doesn't mean they didn't fuck his world up. What he does deserve is to be discharged, and left in peace. I don't care who you are - 5 years with the Taliban will ruin your life and smash your rose colored glasses. How do we really know this guy goes AWOL and who 'hates America' did not participate in attacks on Americans with the Taliban? We don't. It appears he was taught the language, I'm certain he pulled his share of weight. Maybe they made sure he wasn't in a position to actually get caught like lindahl, but he doesn't look worse for wear. |
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Posted: 6/2/2014 7:21:00 AM EDT
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People are just starting to find out that the official version is a pack of lies. The fallout should be interesting. Yep, and right after BO is seen hugging his parents outside the White House. Awesome. |
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Posted: 6/2/2014 7:21:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Captured US soldier has joined our cause, say Taliban http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/multimedia/archive/00062/Bowe-Bergdahl-580_62843a.jpg 22 August 2010 http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/world_news/Afghanistan/article376561.ece Quote HistoryQuoted: Captured US soldier has joined our cause, say Taliban http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/multimedia/archive/00062/Bowe-Bergdahl-580_62843a.jpg 22 August 2010 This image made from video released Wednesday April 7, 2010 by the Taliban via the Site Intelligence Group shows U.S. soldier Pfc. Bowe Bergdahl. In the video, Bergdahl, captured in Afghanistan in June 2009, says he wants to return to his family in Idaho and that the war in Afghanistan is not worth the number of lives that have been lost or wasted in prison. It is the first he has been seen since the Taliban released a video of him on Christmas Day. A Taliban commander in Paktika said the 24-year-old Bergdahl had converted to Islam (AP) The only known American soldier in Taliban captivity is training fighters in bombmaking and ambush, according to one of his captors and the Afghan intelligence agents working to free him. A Taliban deputy district commander in Paktika province said the 24-year-old American had converted to Islam in the months after his capture. He said Bergdahl, from Idaho’s Sun Valley, had trained Taliban fighters in bomb-making and ambushing convoys. "When I saw him for the second time, he had totally changed. He had a beard and he treated all of us very respectfully. He seemed very relaxed in our company. http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/world_news/Afghanistan/article376561.ece I should have read further, it would have saved me some typing. |
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Posted: 6/2/2014 7:23:41 AM EDT
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Deserter for sure, probably a traitor as well. You don't get captured, treated well, allowed to communicate to your father, used as a bargaining chip, and finally exchanged for prisoners just because. I'll bet he at least gave up some information voluntarily to the taliban at the time of his "capture". That's just speculation though.
Confirmed he's a fucking deserter, and lives were lost looking for his sorry ass. Death penalty. |
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Posted: 6/2/2014 7:25:20 AM EDT
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Yep, and right after BO is seen hugging his parents outside the White House. Awesome. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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People are just starting to find out that the official version is a pack of lies. The fallout should be interesting. Yep, and right after BO is seen hugging his parents outside the White House. Awesome. Non-military people were wondering WTF was going on with him still having his beard. Once again I'm forced to wonder if there's a sinister overarching plan here or if this administration is just out of it's collective fucking mind
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Posted: 6/2/2014 7:26:21 AM EDT
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I don't really know but reports surrounding his actions seem to indicate a deserter.
His father is evidently a big "America is bad" guy. Might give some insight into why Bergdahl was "disillusioned" with the war. |
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Posted: 6/2/2014 7:27:46 AM EDT
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Any way to find out who voted 'Hero'?
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Posted: 6/2/2014 7:29:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If he was/is a deserter and traitor, why would we want to leave him with the enemy? Showing the world, and anyone interested in deserting, that we will eventually find you can be a powerful incentive. Wait till The Obama gets Snowden back. It will happen before he leaves office. I think 5 major Taliban terrorists may have been a steep price to pay, but we got him back and at some point, hopefully, the truth will come out. Because he is not worth the risk to get back. Because he is more dangerous free here in the homeland, where he can organize domestic terrorists, then back in some Afghani caves. Bringing him back gives him time to regroup, catch up to the present, then defect again with new knowledge. Heck I'll be he doesn't even have to defect. He is now a planted spy for the Taliban and will be in contact with them. |
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Posted: 6/2/2014 7:30:05 AM EDT
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People are just starting to find out that the official version is a pack of lies. The fallout should be interesting. I agree. It may take a few days, but I expect at some point we'll see TV interviews with the families of the soldiers who died and were wounded while looking for Bergdahl. Thos interviews will shed a far different light on his actions and this prisoner swap. |
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Posted: 6/2/2014 7:30:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The "Biker Bob" crowd must think he is some kind of hero.  http://newsbcpcol.stb.s-msn.com/amnews/i/c5/518a4633dbd09c3f30bf5abfa66125/_h353_w628_m6_otrue_lfalse.jpg oh brother. What a farce our country has become. 
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Posted: 6/2/2014 7:34:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This. Pretty ominous that guys like him (and his dad) were/are lurking in the shadows in our country. Look for the next terrorist attack to be carried out by American born islamists. And not the prison convert NOI types, Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: He's a major domestic security risk if he's allowed to go free when he returns to the States, that much is sure. This. Pretty ominous that guys like him (and his dad) were/are lurking in the shadows in our country. Look for the next terrorist attack to be carried out by American born islamists. And not the prison convert NOI types, Yep. It's obamas gift, for having to kill OBL. And no, I don't think that helicopter casualty was an "accident" either. |
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Posted: 6/2/2014 7:37:03 AM EDT
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I agree. It may take a few days, but I expect at some point we'll see TV interviews with the families of the soldiers who died and were wounded while looking for Bergdahl. Thos interviews will shed a far different light on his actions and this prisoner swap. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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People are just starting to find out that the official version is a pack of lies. The fallout should be interesting. I agree. It may take a few days, but I expect at some point we'll see TV interviews with the families of the soldiers who died and were wounded while looking for Bergdahl. Thos interviews will shed a far different light on his actions and this prisoner swap. If only it could come out before all the ticker tape parades.......... |
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