I'm talking about the novel,not that clusterfuck of a movie.

I've read the book many times and find it a great read and a must own even if you aren't a fan of the genre.

Now, I know that it's supposed to be an allegory on survivalism and disaster preparedness, but nowhere in the book did I find gun control even mentioned once nor has Max Brooks spoken about the topic.

There are mentions of secessionists that were defeated around the Black Hills area, but that's as much as there is.

How do you think gun politics would change in the aftermath of such a disaster?  

Personally, I have a feeling the .gov would go the Katrina route.

If something crazy like that did happen, and it did escalate at the rate it did in the book it would probably either be a temporary issue, or a non-issue.

The government was scrambling just to contain the threat, they didn't have the resources to push any kind of gun control through, and it collapsed shortly after, so at that point it didn't matter.

A HUGE fan of the book myself.

I suspect every adult in America in the post-Zack America has a SIR and a Lobo in their closet.

I got the impression that something like Katrina grab might happen when the army was marching east.

The Swiss approach.

I like it.

Whenever a population is faced with a prolific, deadly threat to individuals that is endemic to daily life, adoption of personal weapons has been the result.  Every time.  Even in oppressive nations - because if all your subjects are getting ripped apart / eaten by animals or dragged off by barbarians, you don't really have anyone to rule.

Also, most of the pacifists and hoplophobes would be eaten early on.  Naturally selected, as it were.

He had the Sons of Guns bunch (I think) build him a zombie-themed 10/22 because he explicitly stated no one should be allowed to own an AR or similar rifle without government training. He's a bit of a tard about guns, but the book was fun.

Personally, if there were still unknown numbers of the walking dead hidden in lakes, swamps, etc., you'd have a hard time convincing me that I needed to turn in my weapons.

The army would just get treated like the zombies then.  Nobody wants to be disarmed.

Max Brooks hates the AR15. He bashes them in his Zombie Survival Guide book.

The SIR supposedly combined the best parts of the AR and AK designs, firing a hot 5.56mm round.

So, kind of a Galil with cherry pie rounds?

Yep, he has the hots for stuff like the M1 Carbine.

It's always been a question of practicality more than morality when it comes to the mass confiscation of firearms. They'd happily confiscate every firearm they could from the population, but they just don't have the resources to pull that off.  That's why the emphasis has been on bans that dry up supply and piece meal confiscation. In fact, the folks here pretend that gun confiscation isn't happening on a daily basis, but it is throughout the country in courts. Judges order people charged with crimes to surrender their weapons or otherwise dispose of them as conditions of their bond. Judges order those convicted of felonies or domestic violence to surrender their firearms or otherwise dispose of them.  It doesn't matter if the crime is non-violent police when executing arrest warrants will confiscate firearms every time and whether the person ends up guilty or not forfeiture is always a problem when it comes to firearms (anything to get them off the street).  The government drives people into poverty through socialism and then does government programs to buy firearms from them.  US population is about 5% of the total world's population, but we have 25% of the world's prison population. A huge segment of society cannot legally own firearms now and every year the offenses that bar ownership of them increase in number.

The government's grip is as tight as it can be right now, but they're always working to make it tighter.  Would they use a disaster of national proportions to do so? I think it would still be an issue of practicality, but bans would increase and piece meal confiscation would increase substantially. The first opportunity the powers that be get they'll happily burn the Constitution and turn us into a system of mob rule, because they know through history they can always manipulate a mob.

Good.

Then he won't be competing for my mags and ammo while we loot abandoned buildings.

Lets see which one of us fills up a ruck first.



 

I would love to know what Max Brooks imagines the SIR looks like. All I know is that it is PROBABLY piston-driven, has quick-change barrels, NICE iron sights, wood furniture
and a spike bayonet.

I've never been able to picture it, myself.

I suspect his opinions are the result of living in NYC and California.

Best part of that book was the "great panic".... especially that part when the pilot was being interviewed, and he said he saw women 'exposing' themselves for gas  or whatever.....

Now that book was sorta anti-gun, I thought the gun portion was just juvenile. I ditched my copy.

or maybe

I didn't care for the book, didn't even finish it. Isnt' it just a random collection of short stories from multiple POV's from people? There seemed to be no flow or continuity to me...

Probably something akin to a -180B

It was done in the style of Studs Terkel's books, basically oral history.

Hi Whirly......

Hey there!

I was given a copy as a gift. I stopped reading and put it down as soon as I read that.

Yup. Claims it's really fragile and not suitable for clubbing things to death, as it'd break. He's a fudd to be sure.

Its been years since I read it but I recall that portion being truly awful and ignorant of even basic knowledge of firearms and their uses.
The WWZ book was better.

I think he was on Sons of Guns and chose some modified 10/22 for the zombie apocalypse.  Great book, way better than the movie.

Very nice, but I don't know........argh!

Here it is, straight out of the book.

(page 274-275) "The wood furniture made it look like a WWII gun; I guess composite materials were too hard to mass-produce.I'm not sure where the SIR supposedly came
from. I've heard it was a modcop of the AK. I've also heard it was a stripped-down version of the XM8, which the army was already planning as it's next-gen assault weapon.
....."It might have kicked hard, and it only fired on semi, but it was super accurate and it never, ever jammed!"...."The only bells and whistles it had was a conversion kits of
extra parts, furniture, and additional barrels of different lengths. You could go long-range sniper ,midrange rifle, or close-combat carbine, all in the same hour, and without
reaching further than your ruck. It also had a spike, this little flip-out job, about eight inches long....."

World War Z, Max Brooks

I always just picture it as a fancy M1 Carbine with a WWI style bayonet.

He also does not understand what Selective fire is and think they shoot full-auto only.

 

All we need are AMT knockoffs of 10/22's...

SKS will fit that bill...