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Posted: 11/16/2014 4:41:09 AM EDT
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Cool read, thanks for posting
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Posted: 11/16/2014 4:49:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Cool read, thanks for posting |
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Posted: 11/16/2014 4:51:10 AM EDT
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Thanks for the read. Didn't B&B get fucked over for something related to that though? I may be remembering it wrong but someone here will know.
Nevermind it looks like they went bankrupt. |
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Posted: 11/16/2014 5:09:58 AM EDT
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Thanks for the read. Didn't B&B get fucked over for something related to that though? I may be remembering it wrong but someone here will know. Nevermind it looks like they went bankrupt. The owner, Bob whatever, had been in the business quite a while and made lots of money. He felt as though California had legislated him into a corner and decided to fold the business. |
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Posted: 11/16/2014 5:34:51 AM EDT
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What a wicked cunt. |
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Posted: 11/16/2014 5:41:26 AM EDT
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Posted: 11/16/2014 5:49:25 AM EDT
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I've got the audio from the police radio traffic on an old HDD...
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Posted: 11/16/2014 5:54:47 AM EDT
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What a wicked cunt. You're being too kind. |
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Posted: 11/16/2014 5:58:43 AM EDT
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Wicked, yes.
Remember she tried to use the fact that her house was shot at to try to ban assault rifles? Oren Hatch quickly corrected her by stating that her house was NOT shot at by someone using an assault rifle... I'm having a party the day that that bitch dies! |
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Posted: 11/16/2014 6:25:35 AM EDT
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It was the wildest real thing is very seen on tv up til then.
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Posted: 11/16/2014 7:02:24 AM EDT
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All the LAPD had to do was run the fuckers over with a car.
End of story.
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Posted: 11/16/2014 7:15:31 AM EDT
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All the LAPD had to do was run the fuckers over with a car.End of story. I'd imagine the volunteer list to drive the car wasn't very long with automatic fire coming their way. |
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Posted: 11/16/2014 7:40:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd imagine the volunteer list to drive the car wasn't very long with automatic fire coming their way. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: All the LAPD had to do was run the fuckers over with a car.End of story. I'd imagine the volunteer list to drive the car wasn't very long with automatic fire coming their way. All those guys had to do was ram the truck into the car, bad guy squashed, end of story.
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Posted: 11/16/2014 7:47:22 AM EDT
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Go to 2:27 and watch.All those guys had to do was ram the truck into the car, bad guy squashed, end of story.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9SJi7G_QY0#t=147
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All the LAPD had to do was run the fuckers over with a car.End of story. I'd imagine the volunteer list to drive the car wasn't very long with automatic fire coming their way. Go to 2:27 and watch.All those guys had to do was ram the truck into the car, bad guy squashed, end of story. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9SJi7G_QY0#t=147
I see what you're saying. |
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Posted: 11/16/2014 8:31:44 AM EDT
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It's good they were returned with no issues or hold ups.
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Posted: 11/16/2014 9:54:58 AM EDT
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I was in the neighborhood at the time....
LAPD now has a museum of their own that features a 'North Hollywood BOA Robbery' exhibit and includes all the home made body armor, complete with bloody bullet holes, that the bad guys wore. |
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Posted: 11/16/2014 10:03:29 AM EDT
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...and that, my friends, is how the police became "militarized"
What a crock phrase |
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Posted: 11/16/2014 10:14:04 AM EDT
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Good read. Thanks for posting.
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Posted: 11/16/2014 10:42:12 AM EDT
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What a wicked cunt. LOTS of these in Congress! |
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Posted: 11/16/2014 10:47:35 AM EDT
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All the LAPD had to do was run the fuckers over with a car.End of story. I'd imagine the volunteer list to drive the car wasn't very long with automatic fire coming their way. Go to 2:27 and watch.All those guys had to do was ram the truck into the car, bad guy squashed, end of story. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9SJi7G_QY0#t=147
I see what you're saying. I like those fake ass sound bites |
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Posted: 11/16/2014 12:07:04 PM EDT
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All the LAPD had to do was run the fuckers over with a car.End of story. I'd imagine the volunteer list to drive the car wasn't very long with automatic fire coming their way. Go to 2:27 and watch.All those guys had to do was ram the truck into the car, bad guy squashed, end of story. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9SJi7G_QY0#t=147
I see what you're saying. Nope. Why? And potentially injure themselves, crumple there own doors preventing them from getting out, setting of their airbags, getting tangled in seat belts, losing control of their weapons, etc. etc. etc.-and assuming they factually knew there was no one else innocent in the truck, they had the right car in the first place, etc.) They did A DAMN FINE JOB that day. |
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Posted: 11/16/2014 12:17:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've got the audio from the police radio traffic on an old HDD... I do too. Gives me goosebumps every time I listen to it. |
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Posted: 11/16/2014 12:18:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: All the LAPD had to do was run the fuckers over with a car.End of story. I'd imagine the volunteer list to drive the car wasn't very long with automatic fire coming their way. All those guys had to do was ram the truck into the car, bad guy squashed, end of story. LOL... and the couch commandos have arrived! Hahaha. I'll be sure to mention to Donnie Anderson the next time I see him that a guy on the internet would have done it differently. |
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Posted: 11/16/2014 12:36:07 PM EDT
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Nope. Why? And potentially injure themselves, crumple there own doors preventing them from getting out, setting of their airbags, getting tangled in seat belts, losing control of their weapons, etc. etc. etc.-and assuming they factually knew there was no one else innocent in the truck, they had the right car in the first place, etc.) They did A DAMN FINE JOB that day. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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All the LAPD had to do was run the fuckers over with a car.End of story. I'd imagine the volunteer list to drive the car wasn't very long with automatic fire coming their way. Go to 2:27 and watch.All those guys had to do was ram the truck into the car, bad guy squashed, end of story. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9SJi7G_QY0#t=147
I see what you're saying. Nope. Why? And potentially injure themselves, crumple there own doors preventing them from getting out, setting of their airbags, getting tangled in seat belts, losing control of their weapons, etc. etc. etc.-and assuming they factually knew there was no one else innocent in the truck, they had the right car in the first place, etc.) They did A DAMN FINE JOB that day. NJSP trooper was killed that way. Shittum backed up into his CV, the doors buckled, and he was shot to death in his seat while he was trying to draw his sidearm |
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Posted: 11/16/2014 12:36:21 PM EDT
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The day they realized 9mm sucks.
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Posted: 11/16/2014 12:37:19 PM EDT
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What a wicked cunt. Bears repeating. 
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Posted: 11/16/2014 12:41:24 PM EDT
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Came across this and has some good info posted on what went down at the nearest gun shop during the shootout. http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=973942 That shoot out (like the 1986 Miami Shoot Out) were watershed moments for Law Enforcement. The 1986 shootout led to police agencies dumping the revolver and later the 9mm in favor of 40SW The 1997 shootout led to police agencies to start issuing AR15's as standard equipment for regular Police Officers Militarization of Police Agencies happened gradually over a long period of time, mostly it was attributable to the War on Drugs with the LAPD forming the first SWAT team in the 70's |
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Posted: 11/16/2014 12:44:29 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/16/2014 12:48:29 PM EDT
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The reality is . Better shooting. Any used centerfire hunting rifle and the event ends quickly. Hell one Mosin and the shooting is over.
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Posted: 11/16/2014 12:48:54 PM EDT
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The day they realized 9mm sucks. Im surprised we havent had the Couch Commandos in yet telling us how they'd have stood up and calmly made head shots |
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Posted: 11/16/2014 12:49:42 PM EDT
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The reality is . Better shooting. Any used centerfire hunting rifle and the event ends quickly. Hell one Mosin and the shooting is over. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile It's easy to shoot targets when they aren't shooting back. |
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Posted: 11/16/2014 12:50:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The day they realized 9mm sucks. More like "The day they realized pistols suck against body armor and automatic rifles".
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Posted: 11/16/2014 1:05:22 PM EDT
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The day they realized 9mm sucks. 10mm, .45, .357 etc etc wouldn't have fared much better in this case |
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Posted: 11/16/2014 1:07:28 PM EDT
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The day they realized 9mm sucks. Cause .40 and .45 would have penetrated the body armor? |
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Posted: 11/16/2014 1:16:22 PM EDT
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Im surprised we havent had the Couch Commandos in yet telling us how they'd have stood up and calmly made head shots Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The day they realized 9mm sucks. Im surprised we havent had the Couch Commandos in yet telling us how they'd have stood up and calmly made head shots That may have been covered in the 7.8 billion threads that came before this one. 
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Posted: 11/16/2014 1:22:46 PM EDT
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Very cool read. That thread got buttfucked by the cops vs anticops too.
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Posted: 11/16/2014 1:35:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: All the LAPD had to do was run the fuckers over with a car.End of story. I'd imagine the volunteer list to drive the car wasn't very long with automatic fire coming their way. All those guys had to do was ram the truck into the car, bad guy squashed, end of story. A lot of arm chair quarterbacking going on here. I doubt than anyone here would have thought of using that tactic at that time. It's easy to see things from different angles when removed from the danger at hand. |
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Posted: 11/16/2014 1:37:15 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/16/2014 1:42:21 PM EDT
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Nice. Thanks for the pics. I've not seen many of those.
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Posted: 11/16/2014 1:47:35 PM EDT
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Haha!
It's a gun fight! They don't hand you an AR with 6 -30 round mags and you magically become invincible. You can get popped in the forehead by a random shot just taking a peep. |
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Posted: 11/16/2014 2:13:19 PM EDT
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The reality is . Better shooting. Any used centerfire hunting rifle and the event ends quickly. Hell one Mosin and the shooting is over. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile
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Posted: 11/16/2014 2:14:04 PM EDT
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Go to 2:27 and watch.All those guys had to do was ram the truck into the car, bad guy squashed, end of story. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9SJi7G_QY0#t=147
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All the LAPD had to do was run the fuckers over with a car.End of story. I'd imagine the volunteer list to drive the car wasn't very long with automatic fire coming their way. Go to 2:27 and watch.All those guys had to do was ram the truck into the car, bad guy squashed, end of story. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9SJi7G_QY0#t=147
Always thought those SWAT guys showed big balls when they came flying up on the last shooter. |
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Posted: 11/16/2014 2:53:22 PM EDT
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Did gun stores have 30 round AR mags for sale in California in 1997? Or were they for sale only to special LEOs?
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Posted: 11/16/2014 4:05:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nope. Why? And potentially injure themselves, crumple there own doors preventing them from getting out, setting of their airbags, getting tangled in seat belts, losing control of their weapons, etc. etc. etc.-and assuming they factually knew there was no one else innocent in the truck, they had the right car in the first place, etc.) They did A DAMN FINE JOB that day. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: All the LAPD had to do was run the fuckers over with a car.End of story. I'd imagine the volunteer list to drive the car wasn't very long with automatic fire coming their way. Go to 2:27 and watch.All those guys had to do was ram the truck into the car, bad guy squashed, end of story. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9SJi7G_QY0#t=147I see what you're saying. Nope. Why? And potentially injure themselves, crumple there own doors preventing them from getting out, setting of their airbags, getting tangled in seat belts, losing control of their weapons, etc. etc. etc.-and assuming they factually knew there was no one else innocent in the truck, they had the right car in the first place, etc.) They did A DAMN FINE JOB that day. No one is saying the didn't do a fine job. You can tell that they didn't give a flying fuck as to who was in the car or the truck when the bad guy opened fire on the officers. I didn't see them stop and discuss about who might be in the car when they returned fire.  Running into the car means anything from slamming it at 120mph to tapping the truck to (like in a pit maneuver) to get the bad guy either pinched between the car and truck or get it so the truck door would not open. |
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Posted: 11/16/2014 6:59:56 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Hollywood_Shooter:
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Posted: 11/16/2014 7:05:03 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/16/2014 7:13:13 PM EDT
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Go to 2:27 and watch.All those guys had to do was ram the truck into the car, bad guy squashed, end of story. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9SJi7G_QY0#t=147
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All the LAPD had to do was run the fuckers over with a car.End of story. I'd imagine the volunteer list to drive the car wasn't very long with automatic fire coming their way. Go to 2:27 and watch.All those guys had to do was ram the truck into the car, bad guy squashed, end of story. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9SJi7G_QY0#t=147
Not a tactically sound plan of action, Amigo. Airbags deploy, frame buckles, pillars deform, inertial reels lock, etc. Plus, no certainty it'll work to take him out. |
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Posted: 11/16/2014 7:14:37 PM EDT
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That shoot out (like the 1986 Miami Shoot Out) were watershed moments for Law Enforcement. The 1986 shootout led to police agencies dumping the revolver and later the 9mm in favor of 40SW The 1997 shootout led to police agencies to start issuing AR15's as standard equipment for regular Police Officers Militarization of Police Agencies happened gradually over a long period of time, mostly it was attributable to the War on Drugs with the LAPD forming the first SWAT team in the 70's Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Came across this and has some good info posted on what went down at the nearest gun shop during the shootout. http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=973942 That shoot out (like the 1986 Miami Shoot Out) were watershed moments for Law Enforcement. The 1986 shootout led to police agencies dumping the revolver and later the 9mm in favor of 40SW The 1997 shootout led to police agencies to start issuing AR15's as standard equipment for regular Police Officers Militarization of Police Agencies happened gradually over a long period of time, mostly it was attributable to the War on Drugs with the LAPD forming the first SWAT team in the 70's LA did not form the first SWAT team. |
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Posted: 11/16/2014 7:18:54 PM EDT
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Did gun stores have 30 round AR mags for sale in California in 1997? Or were they for sale only to special LEOs? CA folks can correct me if I am wrong but I believe the large capacity magazine restrictions did not take effect till January 1, 2000. |
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