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Posted: 12/20/2014 12:07:29 PM EDT
Me, hands down the emerson.
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Posted: 12/20/2014 12:13:16 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/20/2014 12:13:34 PM EDT
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Ball turret. Brave men went down there, and they kicked ass down there! |
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Posted: 12/20/2014 12:15:34 PM EDT
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I'm gonna have to go with the ball turret. It took a little guy with big balls to climb in and man those guns.
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Posted: 12/20/2014 12:20:34 PM EDT
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P51 dorsal turret - 4 remotely operated optically or radar aimed .50's in a teardrop turret. That's a lot of awesome:
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Posted: 12/20/2014 12:20:54 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/20/2014 12:22:37 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/20/2014 12:23:59 PM EDT
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Tag. I love these threads.
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Posted: 12/20/2014 12:24:05 PM EDT
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All of them.
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Posted: 12/20/2014 12:24:13 PM EDT
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Do these count as turrets?
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Posted: 12/20/2014 12:24:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm gonna have to go with the ball turret. It took a little guy with big balls to climb in and man those guns. The Death of the Ball Turret GunnerRandall Jarrell, 1914 - 1965 From my mother’s sleep I fell into the State, |
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Posted: 12/20/2014 12:26:54 PM EDT
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Sperry ball turret
http://freepages.military.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~josephkennedy/sperry_ball_turret.htm |
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Posted: 12/20/2014 12:32:52 PM EDT
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Defiant turret.
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Posted: 12/20/2014 12:33:13 PM EDT
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This is a little more old school, the nose turret on the Martin B-10.
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Posted: 12/20/2014 12:33:43 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/20/2014 12:36:20 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/20/2014 12:38:09 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/20/2014 12:38:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryDon't get cocky 
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Posted: 12/20/2014 12:42:00 PM EDT
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Quote History"The guns, by the way, are all fake, I'm creeped out by guns" 
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Posted: 12/20/2014 12:44:08 PM EDT
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I believe the correct answer is Sperry
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Posted: 12/20/2014 12:48:48 PM EDT
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Not a turret per se, But I've always liked the little ANM2 "stinger" that was mounted in the radio compartment of the TBF Avenger.
I remember hearing Saburo Sakai speak at a symposium in Fredericksburg back in the 90's (I think). Turns out he was badly wounded when he attacked an Avenger from below and got a surprise blast of .30-06 to the face from the radioman's ANM2.
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Posted: 12/20/2014 12:49:26 PM EDT
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XM-28
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Posted: 12/20/2014 12:49:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryWay cool video but he loses points for "real guns creep me out". |
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Posted: 12/20/2014 12:51:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryMore like waist guns, I think  |
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Posted: 12/20/2014 12:52:37 PM EDT
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Actually my favorite aircraft turret would be the one one I'd like to see slung under the belly of a few squadrons of these:
Packing a GAU-22, day-night sensor suite, and a laser designator. 
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Posted: 12/20/2014 1:17:16 PM EDT
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I knew someone would point out the comment about being "creeped out" by guns.
Look, we can't diagnose from one comment if the guy is creeped out by ALL guns. So from the perspective of a person who deals with the restoration of WW2 weapons systems, I'm going to assume that he's talking about dealing with guns that have the possibility of still being armed during the recovery of, and at the beginning of the restoration process. There are quite a few instances where WW2 aircraft are recovered with guns still loaded and functional. So if I was that guy, I'd be a bit "creeped out" myself working on MG's in my shop that stand the chance of still being loaded, until it could be determined that they are cleared and safe. That's how I interpreted his comment. Let's not over-analyze his comment but focus on the intent of his work, which like he mentioned in the end of the video, is to educate the younger generation of the US involvement in WW2. |
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Posted: 12/20/2014 1:22:26 PM EDT
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These count! |
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Posted: 12/20/2014 1:31:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Look, we can't diagnose from one comment if the guy is creeped out by ALL guns. So from the perspective of a person who deals with the restoration of WW2 weapons systems, I'm going to assume that he's talking about dealing with guns that have the possibility of still being armed during the recovery of, and at the beginning of the restoration process. That's a ridiculous rationalization. No way in hell does this guy buy original, loaded, full auto .50's still mounted in wrecked turrets, and almost certainly none exist that are registered and transferable. And if he did he could easily have another party inspect the gun before handling them himself. An anti-gun hangup is weird for somebody that rebuilds gun turrets for fun. I forgive it if there's a related traumatic event in his past, if it's political the guy is a fruitcake. |
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Posted: 12/20/2014 1:41:52 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/20/2014 1:47:10 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/20/2014 3:18:46 PM EDT
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That's a ridiculous rationalization. You're absolutely correct. What was I thinking. |
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Posted: 12/20/2014 3:25:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
An anti-gun hangup is weird for somebody that rebuilds gun turrets for fun. It pretty much just makes you a whirling glass and hydraulics enthusiast.... 
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Posted: 12/20/2014 3:27:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryThere always one or two that will post something stood and eff up a good thread and think they're being funny. |
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Posted: 12/20/2014 3:32:55 PM EDT
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The Emerson Fighter Turret
http://tailspintopics.blogspot.com/2013/03/the-emerson-fighter-turret.html 
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Posted: 12/20/2014 5:35:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryBUFF gun is best gun. |
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Posted: 12/20/2014 5:37:52 PM EDT
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I love that naive, single .30 turret on the Avenger. Awesomely naive.
Shit, I want one on my truck. |
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Posted: 12/20/2014 5:38:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
BUFF gun is best gun. Quote HistoryQuoted:
BUFF gun is best gun. 6,000 round per minute of 20mm "Piss off, Ivan!".
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Posted: 12/20/2014 5:40:38 PM EDT
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I guess the Sperry ball turret, it inspired the TIE fighter and Millenium Falcon and was the most sophisticated part of the b-17
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Posted: 12/20/2014 5:42:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
6,000 round per minute of 20mm "Piss off, Ivan!". Quote HistoryQuoted:
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BUFF gun is best gun. 6,000 round per minute of 20mm "Piss off, Ivan!". did somebody sit back there and watch the radar screen? When the guns were removed why didn't we shorten that area and clean it up aerodynamically. |
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Posted: 12/20/2014 5:44:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: http://browningmgs.com/AirGunnery/Turrets/Ball/SperryBallTurret.jpg Ball turret. Brave men went down there, and they kicked ass down there! My grandpa did a full combat tour as a ball turret gunner on a B-17 in the Eighth Air Force, I never met the man (he died when my mom was a little girl) but I assume he clanked when he walked. |
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Posted: 12/20/2014 5:48:47 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/20/2014 5:49:39 PM EDT
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The B-17G chin turret. Turned a graceful but vulnerable heavy bomber into an aggressive looking, pugnacious, aggressive Bf109 killing mofo.
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Posted: 12/20/2014 5:49:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
There always one or two that will post something stood and eff up a good thread and think they're being funny. Quote HistoryQuoted:
There always one or two that will post something stood and eff up a good thread and think they're being funny. That is sort of a wiseguy post, but the various gunnery scenes in Star Wars were modeled after footage of WW II gunnery such as the quad 40 Bofors mounts. |
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Posted: 12/20/2014 5:50:53 PM EDT
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Avenger
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Posted: 12/20/2014 5:58:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
did somebody sit back there and watch the radar screen? When the guns were removed why didn't we shorten that area and clean it up aerodynamically. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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BUFF gun is best gun. 6,000 round per minute of 20mm "Piss off, Ivan!". did somebody sit back there and watch the radar screen? When the guns were removed why didn't we shorten that area and clean it up aerodynamically. Back in the D model era the gunner sat in the back right in front of the gun. Back then (and through the G model) the guns were quad 50s. The D model had an optical gun sight system that couldn't be extended to the front. Come the G and H models the guns were radar guided and the gunner moved up front next to the EWO and there the gunner stayed until they were removed. Fun fact two B-52s have kills from Vietnam. |
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Posted: 12/20/2014 5:59:52 PM EDT
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Some nice guns.
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Posted: 12/20/2014 6:13:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryNegative! The B-52H technically used a gun mount that was not manually trainable. The last true turret was on the G. All time favorite was the B-52D turret. Optics, radar, windows, and late 40's technology. What's not to love! BTW, flew the flight test on the Emerson mods to the H and G model systems. Both sucked balls! |
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Posted: 12/20/2014 6:16:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
did somebody sit back there and watch the radar screen? When the guns were removed why didn't we shorten that area and clean it up aerodynamically. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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BUFF gun is best gun. 6,000 round per minute of 20mm "Piss off, Ivan!". did somebody sit back there and watch the radar screen? When the guns were removed why didn't we shorten that area and clean it up aerodynamically. Would have required extensive flight test due to the aerodynamic changes. Also, the drag chute compartment was just forward of the radar domes. A lot of other ECM gear would have also had to be moved too. |
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Posted: 12/20/2014 6:21:21 PM EDT
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Would have required extensive flight test due to the aerodynamic changes. Also, the drag chute compartment was just forward of the radar domes. A lot of other ECM gear would have also had to be moved too. The BUFF is a testament to "It's easier to keep it". I wouldn't be surprised if there are still remnants of Hound Dog systems on board. |
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Posted: 12/20/2014 6:23:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Back in the D model era the gunner sat in the back right in front of the gun. Back then (and through the G model) the guns were quad 50s. The D model had an optical gun sight system that couldn't be extended to the front. Come the G and H models the guns were radar guided and the gunner moved up front next to the EWO and there the gunner stayed until they were removed. Fun fact two B-52s have kills from Vietnam. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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BUFF gun is best gun. 6,000 round per minute of 20mm "Piss off, Ivan!". did somebody sit back there and watch the radar screen? When the guns were removed why didn't we shorten that area and clean it up aerodynamically. Back in the D model era the gunner sat in the back right in front of the gun. Back then (and through the G model) the guns were quad 50s. The D model had an optical gun sight system that couldn't be extended to the front. Come the G and H models the guns were radar guided and the gunner moved up front next to the EWO and there the gunner stayed until they were removed. Fun fact two B-52s have kills from Vietnam. Both kills were from D's using optics and 'Kentucky Windage'. Melted the friken barrels too! The F-4 kills were not counted though. Hint, never try and sneak up on a Buff when they are in hostile territory. They will shoot first - especially at night or in the clouds! The G did have a camera that was removed - too hard to maintain and not very useful. Yes, many hours on D, G, and H's (plus 18 hours in a C model tail grafted onto a D model airframe). |
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Posted: 12/20/2014 6:24:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
The BUFF is a testament to "It's easier to keep it". I wouldn't be surprised if there are still remnants of Hound Dog systems on board. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Would have required extensive flight test due to the aerodynamic changes. Also, the drag chute compartment was just forward of the radar domes. A lot of other ECM gear would have also had to be moved too. The BUFF is a testament to "It's easier to keep it". I wouldn't be surprised if there are still remnants of Hound Dog systems on board. There was the last time I flew one.. Lots of odd panels and miles of unused wiring. Boeing has pulled a lot of the excess out during SLEP, but some still remains. |
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