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Posted: 1/22/2015 5:39:34 PM EDT
Looking for a ~20 watt all-tube combo amp to use for practicing blues and rock. Doesn't need to be complicated; just one channel is fine. I would like to spend $600 or less. Any suggestions on what I should look at?
Link Posted: 1/22/2015 6:28:53 PM EDT
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Get a used Fender Blues Jr and do the BillM mods with a good speaker. Or build a tweed Deluxe - I built mine for under $500 (well, until I installed a $200+ Celestion blue alnico speaker, but WOW what a diff).

I got a Blues Jr for $250 on CL and fixed it up into a bad-ass little amp, with an upgraded output tranny and a good speaker. It is mostly for practice, but I have used it for small club gigs. Re-worked a couple of buddies' amps that wanted me to do theirs after they heard mine. I have a room full of vintage amps, tweeds, blackface, browns, Vox, and I still use this amp. It goes in the car for a back-up, or I can leave it at the practice space and no big deal if it gets ripped off. Main club gig amp is a tweed Deluxe and a "64 fender reverb unit. Bigger gig I use my Clark Tyger, or even bigger I add my Blackface Pro Reverb. I have a "58 tweed Twin Amp that will never leave the house - the holy grail.



Link Posted: 1/22/2015 6:40:17 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/22/2015 6:41:11 PM EDT
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20 is a lot for just practice. 5 watts can get pretty loud
Link Posted: 1/22/2015 6:44:16 PM EDT
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Oh, I got that beat.
Link Posted: 1/22/2015 6:49:31 PM EDT
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I liked my Peavey Classic 30 better than my Blues Jr. I think I paid $300 for it used. $600 gets you into some good used tube amps. Personally I don't like them but some people like the Egnater Tweaker or Rebel, Hughes & Kettner TubeMeister, Bugera, Acoustic, Marshall DSL, etc.

 
Link Posted: 1/22/2015 6:53:17 PM EDT
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I have a VOX AC-15. Solid amp, particularly when played clean.

If I buy another, it will probably be a Blackstar or Orange. I'm not a fan of how the Vox overdrives. The Blackstars and Orange I've played sound fucking great overdriven.
Link Posted: 1/22/2015 6:57:23 PM EDT
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Mesa boogie mini rec.

20w all tube is a shitton of LOUD for practice. just saying.

http://www.mesaboogie.com/Product_Info/Rectifier_Series/Mini_Rectifier_25/miniRectifier25.html
Link Posted: 1/22/2015 7:01:14 PM EDT
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I have a VOX AC-15. Solid amp, particularly when played clean.

If I buy another, it will probably be a Blackstar or Orange. I'm not a fan of how the Vox overdrives. The Blackstars and Orange I've played sound fucking great overdriven.
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I was going to recommend Blackstar or Orange.The Blackstars I've heard sound Fucking incredible!
Link Posted: 1/22/2015 7:02:09 PM EDT
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Orange OR15
Link Posted: 1/22/2015 7:04:08 PM EDT
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I will second this. You can hear some guitar and keys used with it on my bands album:



http://grel.bandcamp.com/album/red-sun-god-ep





I've graduated to the OR50 and a 2nd generation Fender Deluxe.




However, I also recommend the Fender G-Dec 3. I think it's the best modeling amp on the market AND it's the best practice amp with the plethora of features it boasts.
Link Posted: 1/22/2015 7:05:29 PM EDT
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Looking for a ~20 watt all-tube combo amp to use for practicing blues and rock. Doesn't need to be complicated; just one channel is fine. I would like to spend $600 or less. Any suggestions on what I should look at?
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"Best" and "$600 or less" do not align.

Dr. Z makes some good lower wattage amps. A friend of mine has several, and I've been able to audition them at full volume.
Link Posted: 1/22/2015 7:06:23 PM EDT
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Look for a used Mesa-Boogie Studio 22. They're solid amps that really rock if you push them hard. Plus they take well to pedals, so you can find tune your sound easily.
Link Posted: 1/22/2015 7:07:34 PM EDT
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Mesa Boogie Mark V 25
Link Posted: 1/22/2015 7:10:00 PM EDT
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I don't remember the model but,I had a fender (my 2nd amp) that was the best sound (studio) I ever heard.

Since I started working again, I'm in Manhattan a few times a week. I'll make it a point to stop on 48th and see what they have to say. There's tons of vintage gear, even though the retailers are over-rated, pompous, assholes.

There may be a lucky find. I'll write down your criteria, and see what's what.
Link Posted: 1/22/2015 7:11:36 PM EDT
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I liked my Peavey Classic 30 better than my Blundell). I think I paid $300 for it used. $600 gets you into some good used tube amps. Personally I don't like them but some people like the Egnater Tweaker or Rebel, Hughes & Kettner TubeMeister, Bugera, Acoustic, Marshall DSL, etc.
 
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Used Peavey Classic 30 or better yet Delta Blues 210 with a speaker and tube upgrade can be done (well) under 6 bills.
Link Posted: 1/22/2015 7:15:58 PM EDT
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Around the house 5-10 watts can be plenty loud. A champ or Princeton would be a good place to start.

What type of music do you typically play?
Link Posted: 1/22/2015 7:17:56 PM EDT
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Used Peavey Classic 30 or better yet Delta Blues 210 with a speaker and tube upgrade can be done (well) under 6 bills.
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I liked my Peavey Classic 30 better than my Blundell). I think I paid $300 for it used. $600 gets you into some good used tube amps. Personally I don't like them but some people like the Egnater Tweaker or Rebel, Hughes & Kettner TubeMeister, Bugera, Acoustic, Marshall DSL, etc.
 


Used Peavey Classic 30 or better yet Delta Blues 210 with a speaker and tube upgrade can be done (well) under 6 bills.



The Peavey Classic 50 has some great circuit mods out there on the interweb. The 30 probably does too.

Link Posted: 1/22/2015 7:19:03 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/22/2015 7:21:12 PM EDT
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Always liked Fender amps/combos for bluesy stuff.

I'm not a tube fanatic but I understand the draw. I prefer to get my tones from a box.

I played through one of these when looking for a practice amp for the boy. It offered a lot of bang for the buck. Sounded very nice. Had plenty of guts. The modelers weren't as cheesy/flat as some I've heard built in to amps.

Fender Super Champ 15w 1x10
Link Posted: 1/22/2015 7:21:42 PM EDT
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Marshall Class 5 with a tube screamer to kick it in the ass.

5 watts is plenty for practice and that Marshall is a LOUD 5 watter.
Link Posted: 1/22/2015 7:23:23 PM EDT
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Around the house 5-10 watts can be plenty loud. A champ or Princeton would be a good place to start.

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I've got a Princeton. That's what I was gonna suggest.

Have you seen the PRICES on them. Might as well put a little more and get a twin.
Link Posted: 1/22/2015 7:26:45 PM EDT
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Around the house 5-10 watts can be plenty loud. A champ or Princeton would be a good place to start.

What type of music do you typically play?
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I bought a '62 Fender Bassman years back, got it home, plugged it in, played a few minutes, unplugged it and haven't used it since.

WAY too loud.




Link Posted: 1/22/2015 8:20:15 PM EDT
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Get a used Fender Blues Jr and do the BillM mods with a good speaker. Or build a tweed Deluxe - I built mine for under $500 (well, until I installed a $200+ Celestion blue alnico speaker, but WOW what a diff).

I got a Blues Jr for $250 on CL and fixed it up into a bad-ass little amp, with an upgraded output tranny and a good speaker. It is mostly for practice, but I have used it for small club gigs. Re-worked a couple of buddies' amps that wanted me to do theirs after they heard mine. I have a room full of vintage amps, tweeds, blackface, browns, Vox, and I still use this amp. It goes in the car for a back-up, or I can leave it at the practice space and no big deal if it gets ripped off. Main club gig amp is a tweed Deluxe and a "64 fender reverb unit. Bigger gig I use my Clark Tyger, or even bigger I add my Blackface Pro Reverb. I have a "58 tweed Twin Amp that will never leave the house - the holy grail.

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff156/loftusj/5e3/5e3_1.jpg
http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff156/loftusj/5e3/5e3_2.jpg
http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff156/loftusj/5e3/5e3_4.jpg
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If you don't mind me asking where did you get the parts to build your tweed deluxe?
Link Posted: 1/22/2015 9:30:13 PM EDT
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Look for a used Mesa-Boogie Studio 22. They're solid amps that really rock if you push them hard. Plus they take well to pedals, so you can find tune your sound easily.
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I'll second this.  I've got one and its the main amp that I keep in my home office and practice/learn new songs with.  It's almost too loud to be considered a practice amp though.

I've ran it through a Marshall 1960 4x12 cabinet before just messing around and it sounded really good that way too.
Link Posted: 1/22/2015 11:41:27 PM EDT
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I have been repairing and building amps for years so I have tons of carbon comp resistors, caps, switches, pots, etc. Board was from turretboards.com I think, trannies Allen, Mercury, Classic Tone, or vintage. Don't remember particulars on that amp but I am pretty sure the OT is Mercury or NOS Triad (good luck finding any of these). I got the chromed and silkscreened chassis from Mike Clark, he said it was scratched and a customer did not want it, and I got it for $20, but I can not find a scratch. Also the cab is a Clark second I toned and laquered myself, got it on ebay cheap. I like the Mallory 150 series poly caps, and electrolytics, well, you can't get the good old ones anymore; Sprague or F&T are OK.

My bud Jim Ransone who plays with the Breeze Kings let me borrow his vintage "57 for study and reverse engineering. He gigs that amp everywhere. I am the only person he lets work on it. I used to do a lot of amp work for Atl-area blues players but now I do not take new clients and only support friends.   am a far better tech than a player, and I am a half-decent player by all accounts, with tone few can touch. IMO YMMV RIP Sean Costello my old friend.
Link Posted: 1/23/2015 12:09:10 AM EDT
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Where are you in TX, OP?

I have a friend that lives somewhere around Lubbock. He's a veteran turned electrical engineering student, and he was repairing and building amplifiers before he even left the Army.

He's built a few Fender Champ variants that sound excellent and have more than enough power for household jamming.
Link Posted: 1/23/2015 12:35:22 AM EDT
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i built one of these

http://www.ax84.com
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