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Posted: 2/21/2015 10:18:25 AM EDT
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Please tell me why an MP5 is good besides that you saw Charlie Sheen and Carl Weathers use them in the 80s. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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MP5s are gross. Worst FP ever. Please tell me why an MP5 is good besides that you saw Charlie Sheen and Carl Weathers use them in the 80s. Wait. Do we need more reasons than that? Bruce Willis? 
Mel Gibson? 
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Posted: 2/21/2015 10:20:03 AM EDT
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Kudos for the soundtrack! Not the usual extra loud, "turn it to 11", heavy metal bullshit every knuckledragging mouthbreather who can jerk a trigger seems to favor.
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Posted: 2/21/2015 10:21:23 AM EDT
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I won't deny it.... I bought into the hype too, and despite it being heavy for the caliber I *love* the MP5.
Hitting the side of an AR has nothing on whacking that forward paddle. |
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Posted: 2/21/2015 10:27:06 AM EDT
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A friend of mine has several post dealer samples, including a converted Glock 17.
I would rate them in this order MP5 9mm AR Glock 17FA Uzi MP5 is awesome compared to the UZI. It's really heavy and awkward. |
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Posted: 2/21/2015 10:27:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryMP5/10 is the correct nomenclature and it's actually a MP5/10 A3 because of the collapsible stock and Navy trigger group. It also shows the much improved, extended selector lever. ETA That's a HK94 conversion not a factory gun. |
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Posted: 2/21/2015 10:30:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Neva heard of them until today... are they a real thing? IE available to us lowly civilians. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Like the Evo Scorpion better  Neva heard of them until today... are they a real thing? IE available to us lowly civilians. Oh yes  http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2015/02/foghorn/gun-review-cz-scorpion-evo-3-pistol/ MSRP: $849 |
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Posted: 2/21/2015 10:34:04 AM EDT
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Like the Evo Scorpion better Neva heard of them until today... are they a real thing? IE available to us lowly civilians. Oh yes
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2015/02/foghorn/gun-review-cz-scorpion-evo-3-pistol/ MSRP: $849 Interdasting  Are stocks and mags readily available?
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Posted: 2/21/2015 10:37:49 AM EDT
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I really wanted to like the MP5. Even after hearing a funny story about a guy carrying one on mission in Afghanistan and being utterly useless with it.
They are fun to shoot but not really practical for its size and weight compared to other options now available. That's why I'm getting rid of my two clones. |
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Posted: 2/21/2015 10:51:31 AM EDT
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Way back, I got to shoot a real full auto MP5SD. So cool! Extremely controllable, accurate as a laser, and damn near as quiet as the movies try to make them!
I do own a GSG5SD. It's a hoot to shoot. I keep toying around the idea of SBR'ing and Suppressing it.... |
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Posted: 2/21/2015 10:52:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryI remember in Rainbow Six (book and the video game) the MP10mm. Dunno if they ever got it out for real, or if it just remained in prototype land... Ah, I see above they are indeed real and in different configs. |
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Posted: 2/21/2015 11:09:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Interdasting Are stocks and mags readily available?Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Like the Evo Scorpion better Neva heard of them until today... are they a real thing? IE available to us lowly civilians. Oh yes http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2015/02/foghorn/gun-review-cz-scorpion-evo-3-pistol/ MSRP: $849 Interdasting Are stocks and mags readily available?IIRC some of that is still being worked out (922r) but CZ is making some promises. Mags were, I think supposed to come in at $20 msrp. |
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Posted: 2/21/2015 11:12:21 AM EDT
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Ill always love an MP5 . I'm still alive because of one.
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Posted: 2/21/2015 11:16:23 AM EDT
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Yes they are. I shot one at The Gun Store in Vegas. It was much more controllable than the superseded full auto TP9 I shot.
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Posted: 2/21/2015 11:17:28 AM EDT
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Ill always love an MP5 . I'm still alive because of one. Do a bit of Gods work with one? |
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Posted: 2/21/2015 11:19:27 AM EDT
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Ill always love an MP5 . I'm still alive because of one. Do a bit of Gods work with one? Unfortunately. |
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Posted: 2/21/2015 11:32:03 AM EDT
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Couple of my buddies have them.
They are 'meh'. I've fired them but to be honest, its been years since and every time they bring them out, I don't shoot them. Kind of like FA AK rifles, 'meh'. |
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Posted: 2/21/2015 11:35:05 AM EDT
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I was at a range years ago and a school teacher showed up with one, talk about bad ass
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Posted: 2/21/2015 11:38:35 AM EDT
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MP5 with its fluted chamber dirties up the 9mm brass too much.
One of my favorite guns. |
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Posted: 2/21/2015 11:43:19 AM EDT
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Ill always love an MP5 . I'm still alive because of one. Do a bit of Gods work with one? Unfortunately. Their decision, not yours. 
I'm not sure why someone wouldn't like the MP5, it is a great weapon in the proper role. So are a lot of other weapons, and while 9mm might not be the most devastating round created, it works when applied as needed. |
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Posted: 2/21/2015 11:53:39 AM EDT
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Kudos for the soundtrack! Not the usual extra loud, "turn it to 11", heavy metal bullshit every knuckledragging mouthbreather who can jerk a trigger seems to favor. Yup, Noir seems like quite the classy man. |
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Posted: 2/21/2015 11:55:22 AM EDT
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My HK sear and clone host should get approved within the next week or two. I can't wait!
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Posted: 2/21/2015 12:03:59 PM EDT
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I'm not a big HK fan, but the G3 derivitives are pretty awesome. I'd love to have a MP-5k or an HK-53k with the STANAG conversion that allows both AR mags and originals.
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Posted: 2/21/2015 12:09:10 PM EDT
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My HK sear and clone host should get approved within the next week or two. I can't wait! Prices on sears have gone full retard but I still love shooting mine. The SD clone is my favorite for full-auto. |
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Posted: 2/21/2015 12:22:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm not sure why someone wouldn't like the MP5, it is a great weapon in the proper role. So are a lot of other weapons, and while 9mm might not be the most devastating round created, it works when applied as needed. Clunky, heavy for what they are, bad controls, no last round hold open, lots of optics get in the way of charging handle, trigger is meh, the Ks barrel is a tiny tiny bit shorter than a Glock 17/18s, and since I shoot my ARs collapsed the full-sized MP5 with stock out is same size as 10.3 AR. They are reliable, I will give them that. |
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Posted: 2/21/2015 4:12:19 PM EDT
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I would certainly take one.
Even outdated sucky ergonomics, bah, blah blah. they are just plain good old pure sex |
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Posted: 2/21/2015 4:14:25 PM EDT
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I would love an MP5K.
I think the standard is kind of big for what it is. |
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Posted: 2/21/2015 4:44:03 PM EDT
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I would certainly take one. Even outdated sucky ergonomics, bah, blah blah. they are just plain good old pure sex Seriously.. Thank God I'm just a normal schmoe and not an OMG TIER 1 OPERATOR so I can occasionally base my gun buying decisions on what's fun and cool. |
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Posted: 2/21/2015 4:47:48 PM EDT
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MP5s are gross. You can always tell the guys whose sole purpose in life is to stir the shit. |
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Posted: 2/21/2015 4:49:41 PM EDT
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First of all, no it's not. Regular non German fingers can't reach selector, no hold open, awkward charging handle. Second of all my couch is comfy to sit on, doesn't make it a good gun. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Well when you fire an MP5 it's a comfortable gun to shoot. First of all, no it's not. Regular non German fingers can't reach selector, no hold open, awkward charging handle. Second of all my couch is comfy to sit on, doesn't make it a good gun. Weird, my Vietnamese wife has no issues with the controls on mine 
They're extremely fun to shoot. Accurate and easy to manipulate. Iove my two clones. I'd still reach for an AR first in times of need. Rifle>>pistol. 
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Posted: 2/21/2015 4:52:42 PM EDT
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Neva heard of them until today... are they a real thing? IE available to us lowly civilians. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Like the Evo Scorpion better Neva heard of them until today... are they a real thing? IE available to us lowly civilians. Saw one today at a fun show. They wanted $1100. 
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Posted: 2/21/2015 4:53:51 PM EDT
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Weird, my Vietnamese wife has no issues with the controls on mine
They're extremely fun to shoot. Accurate and easy to manipulate. Iove my two clones. I'd still reach for an AR first in times of need. Rifle>>pistol.http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/natebedair/a486ec0ad24cbd300c4640b12cbfcf2c_zps076a0349.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Well when you fire an MP5 it's a comfortable gun to shoot. First of all, no it's not. Regular non German fingers can't reach selector, no hold open, awkward charging handle. Second of all my couch is comfy to sit on, doesn't make it a good gun. Weird, my Vietnamese wife has no issues with the controls on mine
They're extremely fun to shoot. Accurate and easy to manipulate. Iove my two clones. I'd still reach for an AR first in times of need. Rifle>>pistol.http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/natebedair/a486ec0ad24cbd300c4640b12cbfcf2c_zps076a0349.jpg How do you like the B&T stock? I'm about to order a K clone and have been thinking about that stock for it. Has kinda a UMP vibe |
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Posted: 2/21/2015 4:54:07 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/21/2015 4:56:11 PM EDT
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Clunky, heavy for what they are, bad controls, no last round hold open, lots of optics get in the way of charging handle, trigger is meh, the Ks barrel is a tiny tiny bit shorter than a Glock 17/18s, and since I shoot my ARs collapsed the full-sized MP5 with stock out is same size as 10.3 AR. They are reliable, I will give them that. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm not sure why someone wouldn't like the MP5, it is a great weapon in the proper role. So are a lot of other weapons, and while 9mm might not be the most devastating round created, it works when applied as needed. Clunky, heavy for what they are, bad controls, no last round hold open, lots of optics get in the way of charging handle, trigger is meh, the Ks barrel is a tiny tiny bit shorter than a Glock 17/18s, and since I shoot my ARs collapsed the full-sized MP5 with stock out is same size as 10.3 AR. They are reliable, I will give them that. 
MP5/40/10 do have LRBHO. |
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Posted: 2/21/2015 4:58:46 PM EDT
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How do you like the B&T stock? I'm about to order a K clone and have been thinking about that stock for it. Has kinda a UMP vibe Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Well when you fire an MP5 it's a comfortable gun to shoot. First of all, no it's not. Regular non German fingers can't reach selector, no hold open, awkward charging handle. Second of all my couch is comfy to sit on, doesn't make it a good gun. Weird, my Vietnamese wife has no issues with the controls on mine
They're extremely fun to shoot. Accurate and easy to manipulate. Iove my two clones. I'd still reach for an AR first in times of need. Rifle>>pistol.http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/natebedair/a486ec0ad24cbd300c4640b12cbfcf2c_zps076a0349.jpg How do you like the B&T stock? I'm about to order a K clone and have been thinking about that stock for it. Has kinda a UMP vibe It is based on the UMP stock. I love it. I sold the Choate stock Tgat came with the MP5k clone. Didn't feel nearly as nice. Much prefer the B&T. It's more solid. 
Wish I had the jingle for a sear pack, but Id probably buy NVG stuff or a SAN Sig 55X if I ever saved that up. |
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Posted: 2/21/2015 5:25:10 PM EDT
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MP5s are gross. You are wrong and should feel bad. |
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Posted: 2/21/2015 5:27:39 PM EDT
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I'm not a big HK fan, but the G3 derivitives are pretty awesome. I'd love to have a MP-5k HK33, HK33k or an HK-53k with the STANAG conversion that allows both AR mags and originals. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y182/ghilliebear/5-3-20121/DSC02199.jpg I'd love a G41, personally. http://www.hkpro.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=83:g41-series Good luck finding one. |
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Posted: 2/21/2015 5:40:43 PM EDT
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I like the way the FS uzi shoots better than the MP5.
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Posted: 2/21/2015 5:41:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You can always tell the guys whose sole purpose in life is to stir the shit. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: MP5s are gross. You can always tell the guys whose sole purpose in life is to stir the shit. So, I see a guy about to go into an eatery, and I say "Don't eat there bro I've had it, it's gross" Then the guy turns to me and yells "SHUT UP TROLL eating dog shit burgers is fun Charlie fucking Sheen eats here!!!!" And I'm the bad guy here?  |
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Posted: 2/21/2015 5:48:16 PM EDT
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Please tell me why an MP5 is good besides that you saw Charlie Sheen and Carl Weathers use them in the 80s. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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MP5s are gross. Worst FP ever. Please tell me why an MP5 is good besides that you saw Charlie Sheen and Carl Weathers use them in the 80s. The one I shot was controllable, reliable, and fun. The G18 was a hard to control, cyclic rate was too fast, and it wasn't fun to shoot. |
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Posted: 2/21/2015 5:59:05 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/21/2015 6:03:15 PM EDT
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They're fun for about a min. I think people like them because they've seen too many movies. They're eh. I carried one for a while in Iraq. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I've shot these quite a few times at machine gun shoots and even for their age they are pure sex 
They're fun for about a min. I think people like them because they've seen too many movies. They're eh. I carried one for a while in Iraq. Honestly, Die Hard is the only reason I want an AUG. |
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Posted: 2/21/2015 7:06:05 PM EDT
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So, I see a guy about to go into an eatery, and I say "Don't eat there bro I've had it, it's gross" Then the guy turns to me and yells "SHUT UP TROLL eating dog shit burgers is fun Charlie fucking Sheen eats here!!!!" And I'm the bad guy here?
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MP5s are gross. You can always tell the guys whose sole purpose in life is to stir the shit. So, I see a guy about to go into an eatery, and I say "Don't eat there bro I've had it, it's gross" Then the guy turns to me and yells "SHUT UP TROLL eating dog shit burgers is fun Charlie fucking Sheen eats here!!!!" And I'm the bad guy here?
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Posted: 2/22/2015 2:07:53 AM EDT
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You can always tell the guys whose sole purpose in life is to stir the shit. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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MP5s are gross. You can always tell the guys whose sole purpose in life is to stir the shit. I love me some MP5, but the guy has got some good points. First off, let's disregard the fact that the submachinegun largely has been replaced in military and LE applications by compact rifle caliber guns. The ergos are pretty shitty. Selector is made for the hand of some yet undiscovered alien race. Charging handle is poorly placed, even though the 'HK slap' looks really awesome, until you smack your hand on your red dot. Speaking of RDS, it is severly lacking in the ability to properly mount an optic and still use irons. Speaking of irons, diopters are cool, but requiring a proprietary tool to zero is not. A3 stock is not the most comfortable, needs additional notches cut for different lengths of pull, and needs to not droop after heavy use. Needs bolt hold open (ala .40 and 10mm variant) added to 9mm. Mag changes could be a bit more forgiving. Don't get me wrong, I died a little inside the day I had to turn mine in, but realistically I never used it except occasionally in training. Still love it, even if it is a bit of an outdated and extinct platform. |
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