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Posted: 3/4/2015 4:58:02 PM EDT
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Scientists have unearthed the jawbone of what they claim is one of the very first humans. The 2.8 million-year-old specimen is 400,000 years older than researchers thought that our kind first emerged. The discovery in Ethiopia suggests climate change spurred the transition from tree dweller to upright walker. The head of the research team told BBC News that the find gives the first insight into "the most important transitions in human evolution". Prof Brian Villmoare of the University of Nevada in Las Vegas said the discovery makes a clear link between an iconic 3.2 million-year-old hominin (human-like primate) discovered in the same area in 1974, called "Lucy". Could Lucy's kind - which belonged to the species Australopithecus afarensis - have evolved into the very first primitive humans? "That's what we are arguing," said Prof Villmoare. But the fossil record between the time period when Lucy and her kin were alive and the emergence of Homo erectus (with its relatively large brain and humanlike body proportions) two million years ago is sparse. The 2.8 million-year-old lower jawbone was found in the Ledi-Geraru research area, Afar Regional State, by Ethiopian student Chalachew Seyoum. He told BBC News that he was "stunned" when he saw the fossil. More at link 
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Posted: 3/4/2015 4:58:44 PM EDT
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expansive exposé bro
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Posted: 3/4/2015 4:59:33 PM EDT
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.....Right next to Hitler's pencil box.
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Posted: 3/4/2015 5:00:57 PM EDT
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In before the "only 6000 years old, har har" douchebaggery.
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Posted: 3/4/2015 5:03:00 PM EDT
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Climate change didn't spur us to come down from the trees, the water did. Our ancestors probably spent several hundred thousand years wading, floating, and swimming in fresh water, making us what we are now.
Quick primer on it; 
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Posted: 3/4/2015 5:03:51 PM EDT
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wrong
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Posted: 3/4/2015 5:05:45 PM EDT
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wrong Proof? 
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Posted: 3/4/2015 5:07:17 PM EDT
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wrong Well thought out argument. I especially liked the part where you proved your point with facts. Oh wait.... |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 5:07:40 PM EDT
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I garuntee you it will eventually come out mostly modern humans are atleast 1.5 million years old and that we didnt come from the monkeys they think we came from. Not saying we didnt come from monkeys. I am saying mostly modern humans go back much farther then they think they do. there is just no way that all of the variations of modern humans happened in 200K years.
Aint happening. Nope. |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 5:10:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I garuntee you it will eventually come out mostly modern humans are atleast 1.5 million years old and that we didnt come from the monkeys they think we came from. Not saying we didnt come from monkeys. I am saying mostly modern humans go back much farther then they think they do. Nobody who understands evolution thinks that humans evolved from monkeys. |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 5:13:10 PM EDT
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I was really getting into that article when I realized that this 'artifact' was planted by Jesus as a test of my faith. Well, I for one, passed. The rest of you science lovers will burn in the hell fires if you don't repent.
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Posted: 3/4/2015 5:13:28 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/4/2015 5:14:10 PM EDT
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Nobody who understands evolution thinks that humans evolved from monkeys. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I garuntee you it will eventually come out mostly modern humans are atleast 1.5 million years old and that we didnt come from the monkeys they think we came from. Not saying we didnt come from monkeys. I am saying mostly modern humans go back much farther then they think they do. Nobody who understands evolution thinks that humans evolved from monkeys. Lemurs. apes. whatever/ |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 5:14:36 PM EDT
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Did the find the first monkey fish frog yet?
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Posted: 3/4/2015 5:15:00 PM EDT
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I was really getting into that article when I realized that this 'artifact' was planted by Jesus as a test of my faith. Well, I for one, passed. The rest of you science lovers will burn in the hell fires if you don't repent.  out of
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Posted: 3/4/2015 5:18:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Proof? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: wrong Proof?  |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 5:19:53 PM EDT
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I was really getting into that article when I realized that this 'artifact' was planted by Jesus as a test of my faith. Well, I for one, passed. The rest of you science lovers will burn in the hell fires if you don't repent. 
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Posted: 3/4/2015 5:20:32 PM EDT
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Nobody who understands evolution thinks that humans evolved from monkeys. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I garuntee you it will eventually come out mostly modern humans are atleast 1.5 million years old and that we didnt come from the monkeys they think we came from. Not saying we didnt come from monkeys. I am saying mostly modern humans go back much farther then they think they do. Nobody who understands evolution thinks that humans evolved from monkeys. You can tell a lot by hand shape and weight; 
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Posted: 3/4/2015 5:21:54 PM EDT
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Climate change didn't spur us to come down from the trees, the water did. Our ancestors probably spent several hundred thousand years wading, floating, and swimming in fresh water, making us what we are now. Quick primer on it;  http://youtu.be/gwPoM7lGYHw
Fascinating talk. |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 5:22:54 PM EDT
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Riiight.
I mean, I know it was found and that it exists and that it's very likely indeed from a human...but how do they suppose that's an accurate date? Did they date the bone fragment from the strata in which it was discovered? And if so, how was the strata layer dated? Of course, I'm no expert. I'm pretty dumb in many ways. But I don't believe everything I read, because I know that even really smart experts tend to spew a lot of B.S. |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 5:23:29 PM EDT
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Tom cruise put that there
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Posted: 3/4/2015 5:23:58 PM EDT
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EVOLUTION  It's clear we have devolved. |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 5:25:22 PM EDT
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It was placed there to trick us all.
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Posted: 3/4/2015 5:26:38 PM EDT
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I was really getting into that article when I realized that this 'artifact' was planted by Jesus as a test of my faith. Well, I for one, passed. The rest of you science lovers will burn in the hell fires if you don't repent. 
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Posted: 3/4/2015 5:27:40 PM EDT
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I don't put much faith in some of these claims.
I think some throw out anything to keep the money rolling in. |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 5:31:14 PM EDT
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what gets me.
is they say all this amazing shit, then you see what they found and its always like a jawbone and a finger bone. yet they knew that was the bone of a watapotomus and they can tell you everything about it down to its favorite color. |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 5:31:19 PM EDT
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It's clear we have devolved. I think DEVO had it right, Man sure does seem to be going it the wrong direction. |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 5:31:53 PM EDT
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Wow, they've gotten really good at dating, what month was it placed there again?
For real though, they claim its 3,200,000 years old. Is that give or take 50,000 years? 50,000 years is a long time and if they can't account for that amount of time how am I supposed to believe this number is accurate? That jawbone could be anyone's. |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 5:33:49 PM EDT
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I was really getting into that article when I realized that this 'artifact' was planted by Jesus as a test of my faith. Well, I for one, passed. The rest of you science lovers will burn in the hell fires if you don't repent. out of Burn the unbeliever! |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 5:34:11 PM EDT
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Maybe it's Mitochondrial Eve, the first known half-human/half-Cylon hybrid.
I wonder what Jack Chick says it could be? |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 5:36:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lemurs. apes. whatever/ Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I garuntee you it will eventually come out mostly modern humans are atleast 1.5 million years old and that we didnt come from the monkeys they think we came from. Not saying we didnt come from monkeys. I am saying mostly modern humans go back much farther then they think they do. Nobody who understands evolution thinks that humans evolved from monkeys. Lemurs. apes. whatever/ Still wrong. Humans and monkeys/apes/etc evolved from a common ancestor. |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 5:37:28 PM EDT
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I was really getting into that article when I realized that this 'artifact' was planted by Jesus as a test of my faith. Well, I for one, passed. The rest of you science lovers will burn in the hell fires if you don't repent. 
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Posted: 3/4/2015 5:41:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well thought out argument. I especially liked the part where you proved your point with facts. Oh wait.... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: wrong Well thought out argument. I especially liked the part where you proved your point with facts. Oh wait.... |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 5:50:58 PM EDT
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This little guy would have been about two and a half to three feet tall, and furry all over like a small ape. One might say this specimen represents an early ancestor to what would become human, but the artifact itself is not human; not by a long shot. Homo sapiens (anatomically humans) don't emerge for another two and a half million years. Humans are only around 300,000 years old. Fact.
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Posted: 3/4/2015 5:55:46 PM EDT
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what gets me. is they say all this amazing shit, then you see what they found and its always like a jawbone and a finger bone. yet they knew that was the bone of a watapotomus and they can tell you everything about it down to its favorite color. It's interesting how certain they are about all of it until a couple years later they discover something that refutes everything they "knew" a short time earlier. I've seen the pattern repeated so many times, I put very little stock in these "amazing discoveries" anymore. Give it 4 or 5 decades to be put in proper context with other discoveries and then we'll see if it actually means anything. Way too much speculation being passed off as fact. Many (if not most) scientists are too arrogant and worried about making a name in the community to adhere to any scientific rigor. |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 5:57:22 PM EDT
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Can't be right. It is white with black teeth. Ethiopians are black with white teeth.
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Posted: 3/4/2015 5:58:14 PM EDT
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I was really getting into that article when I realized that this 'artifact' was planted by Jesus as a test of my faith. Well, I for one, passed. The rest of you science lovers will burn in the hell fires if you don't repent. That was really dang funny. And I'm a Christian. Bravo sir. Bravo. |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 6:00:41 PM EDT
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I think DEVO had it right, Man sure does seem to be going it the wrong direction. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's clear we have devolved. I think DEVO had it right, Man sure does seem to be going it the wrong direction. We're all DEVO! |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 6:00:55 PM EDT
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I was really getting into that article when I realized that this 'artifact' was planted by Jesus as a test of my faith. Well, I for one, passed. The rest of you science lovers will burn in the hell fires if you don't repent. 
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Posted: 3/4/2015 6:03:57 PM EDT
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Umpossible.
Unless of course.... aliens. |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 6:06:02 PM EDT
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It's interesting how certain they are about all of it until a couple years later they discover something that refutes everything they "knew" a short time earlier. I know, right??? They should come up with some "facts" and stick to them despite all future evidence to the contrary. |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 6:06:09 PM EDT
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I was really getting into that article when I realized that this 'artifact' was planted by Jesus as a test of my faith. Well, I for one, passed. The rest of you science lovers will burn in the hell fires if you don't repent. Haven't a few Saints said to not take the Bible literally? As such, there is no reason science and religion can't go hand-in-hand. |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 6:08:10 PM EDT
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Climate change- aaaaaa d you lost me.
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Posted: 3/4/2015 6:09:41 PM EDT
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2.8 million...
LOL |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 6:09:45 PM EDT
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Haven't a few Saints said to not take the Bible literally? As such, there is no reason science and religion can't go hand-in-hand. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I was really getting into that article when I realized that this 'artifact' was planted by Jesus as a test of my faith. Well, I for one, passed. The rest of you science lovers will burn in the hell fires if you don't repent. Haven't a few Saints said to not take the Bible literally? As such, there is no reason science and religion can't go hand-in-hand. Science is the How God is the Why 
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Posted: 3/4/2015 6:12:08 PM EDT
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""The human-like features shown by Australopithecus sediba in South Africa at around 1.95 million years ago are likely to have developed independently of the processes which produced (humans) in East Africa, showing that parallel origins are a distinct possibility," Prof Stringer explained.
This would suggest several different species of humans co-existing in Africa around two million years ago with only one of them surviving and eventually evolving into our species, Homo sapiens. It is as if nature was experimenting with different versions of the same evolutionary configuration until one succeeded." Interesting. I wonder if we can ever figure out WHICH species we came from? |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 6:16:04 PM EDT
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Climate change- aaaaaa d you lost me. The climate of earth has under gone dramatic climate change in the past. Everything north of South Dakota used to be under a mile of ice. The Sahara used to be jungle. |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 6:17:29 PM EDT
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Climate change- aaaaaa d you lost me. The climate of earth has under gone dramatic climate change in the past. Everything north of South Dakota used to be under a mile of ice. The Sahara used to be jungle. My back yard is full of sea shells but fuck that liberal climate change shenanigans
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Posted: 3/4/2015 6:21:22 PM EDT
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Aaaaand in.
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Posted: 3/4/2015 6:21:46 PM EDT
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Climate change- aaaaaa d you lost me. The climate of earth has under gone dramatic climate change in the past. Everything north of South Dakota used to be under a mile of ice. The Sahara used to be jungle. My back yard is full of sea shells but fuck that liberal climate change shenanigans The climate does change. The climate MAY be getting warmer. The shenanigans are with who's to blame and how rich lefies like Algore can make a buck off the bullshit side of it. |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 6:22:14 PM EDT
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what gets me. is they say all this amazing shit, then you see what they found and its always like a jawbone and a finger bone. yet they knew that was the bone of a watapotomus and they can tell you everything about it down to its favorite color. The more interest your musings generate, the bigger / better your grants are. |
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