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Posted: 7/5/2015 11:02:25 AM EDT
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Primary arms has never let me down
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Posted: 7/5/2015 11:02:40 AM EDT
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Aimpoint PRO
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Posted: 7/5/2015 11:08:21 AM EDT
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Aimpoint PRO I've had two aimpoint PROs and traded them off for some stupid reason. Would the PRO be too unwieldy for a pistol? |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 11:11:43 AM EDT
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PA micro dot
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Posted: 7/5/2015 11:11:45 AM EDT
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Aimpoint PRO This. You can find them for well under $400; you never know when you are going to need to use it in a battle, so you should have something reliable. |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 11:12:47 AM EDT
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PA micro dot This FTW |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 11:13:30 AM EDT
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... Trijicon RMR 6.5 MOA Adjustable LED Red Dot Sight
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Posted: 7/5/2015 11:18:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: PA micro dot Quote HistoryQuoted: PA micro dot Quoted: Aimpoint PRO |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 11:21:20 AM EDT
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PA micro dot The PA micro works well on mine. OP, can you fix the title? Bestoptic to best optic. Didn't know what I was clicking on. |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 11:22:29 AM EDT
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I've had two aimpoint PROs and traded them off for some stupid reason. Would the PRO be too unwieldy for a pistol? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Aimpoint PRO I've had two aimpoint PROs and traded them off for some stupid reason. Would the PRO be too unwieldy for a pistol? A 10 inch barrel may be a pistol by BATFE standards, but it's close enough to SBR to think in SBR terms. Personally, I'd put some Daniel Defense fixed irons on there and be happy as a pig in slop. |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 11:22:44 AM EDT
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I like the EoTech 553
Run it on my LWRC M6A2 6.8mm SPC with 10.5" barrel. BR, |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 11:23:10 AM EDT
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The PA micro works well on mine. OP, can you fix the title? Bestoptic to best optic. Didn't know what I was clicking on. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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PA micro dot The PA micro works well on mine. OP, can you fix the title? Bestoptic to best optic. Didn't know what I was clicking on. That's what I get for not having my reading glasses on...... |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 11:24:11 AM EDT
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Vortex Sparc
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Posted: 7/5/2015 11:25:14 AM EDT
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A 10 inch barrel may be a pistol by BATFE standards, but it's close enough to SBR to think in SBR terms. Personally, I'd put some Daniel Defense fixed irons on there and be happy as a pig in slop. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Aimpoint PRO I've had two aimpoint PROs and traded them off for some stupid reason. Would the PRO be too unwieldy for a pistol? A 10 inch barrel may be a pistol by BATFE standards, but it's close enough to SBR to think in SBR terms. Personally, I'd put some Daniel Defense fixed irons on there and be happy as a pig in slop. I noticed when shooting yesterday that bringing up to line of site I have trouble aligning the sites. Its just me, but I was wondering if a dot would be better |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 11:27:04 AM EDT
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Thanks for all the replys. Think I'll go back to the Aimpoint PRO since I've had them
in the past, and if it doesn't work out on the pistol I can put it on a rifle. Off to the EE. Thanks again. 
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Posted: 7/5/2015 11:28:08 AM EDT
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Yup, Primary Arms Micro Dot.
Works great, has a quick detach mount that holds zero when reattached (if that is important for you), batteries last a long time. Small, yet not too small. I love mine. 
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Posted: 7/5/2015 11:29:49 AM EDT
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PA micro dot This but get the Advanced. The standard PA microdot sucks. |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 11:31:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This but get the Advanced. The standard PA microdot sucks. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: PA micro dot This but get the Advanced. The standard PA microdot sucks.  How so? |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 11:31:58 AM EDT
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PA micro dot I put one of the new ones with the long battery-life on my 8.5" AR pistol and love it. |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 11:33:37 AM EDT
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I have never discovered an adequate aiming method or sight system for such an ungainly pistol.
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Posted: 7/5/2015 11:33:47 AM EDT
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Yup, Primary Arms Micro Dot. Works great, has a quick detach mount that holds zero when reattached (if that is important for you), batteries last a long time. Small, yet not too small. I love mine. <a href="https://flic.kr/p/dB3Adc" target="_blank">https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8364/8272863883_526a7756aa_o.jpg</a> <a href="https://flic.kr/p/dB3Abv" target="_blank">https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8353/8272863785_4ce1de1d54_o.jpg</a> That's a great looking set up |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 11:36:01 AM EDT
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Would the guys who say microdot trust it to your life? I run an eotech on my defensive rifle and wonder what the consensus is there. I am thinking about another shortish build.
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Posted: 7/5/2015 11:36:49 AM EDT
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I went with an Aimpoint but think I'm going to try a Primary Arms micro in its place.
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Posted: 7/5/2015 11:39:09 AM EDT
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Would the guys who say microdot trust it to your life? I run an eotech on my defensive rifle and wonder what the consensus is there. I am thinking about another shortish build. I've had an Eotech fail on me. I would not trust my life to one. ETA: Here's the thread on the failure. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1606034_Anyone_else_ever_break_an_EOTech_.html |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 11:39:39 AM EDT
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bushnell TRS-25
Mines on an ultimak. its been broiling hot manymany times and works great. |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 11:46:41 AM EDT
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Why not just plain, KISS, iron sights? I have some no-name optic on my AR pistol but it just seems unwieldy. I'm seriously considering BUIS only.
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Posted: 7/5/2015 11:47:25 AM EDT
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PA micro dot This but get the Advanced. The standard PA microdot sucks.
How so? I have both. My opinion. 
Advanced has better battery life by 50 times... I could just stop here, but I'll continue... Advanced has two years longer warranty (3 vs 1). Advanced has a sharper dot on all of the units I've seen. Advanced has clearer glass color. The illuminator on the advanced is not in the way of BUIS when lower 1/3. Advanced has closer parallax shift range (33 yards vs 50). Advanced has an easer brightness adjustment... Am I adjusting the brightness? Nope! I'm removing the battery cap. Yaaaaay! |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 12:14:01 PM EDT
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If you SBR it, get a T1 or T2.
In the meantime, the PA advanced micro is a damn good sight. It fucking holds zero! 
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Posted: 7/5/2015 12:17:07 PM EDT
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A 10 inch barrel may be a pistol by BATFE standards, but it's close enough to SBR to think in SBR terms. Personally, I'd put some Daniel Defense fixed irons on there and be happy as a pig in slop. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Aimpoint PRO I've had two aimpoint PROs and traded them off for some stupid reason. Would the PRO be too unwieldy for a pistol? A 10 inch barrel may be a pistol by BATFE standards, but it's close enough to SBR to think in SBR terms. Personally, I'd put some Daniel Defense fixed irons on there and be happy as a pig in slop. Then you are DEAD as soon as you get into a firefight in the dark. If you want to commit suicide, that's fine...but don't go getting other people killed with your insanity. |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 12:19:26 PM EDT
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Aimpoint PRO |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 12:19:52 PM EDT
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I went with an Aimpoint but think I'm going to try a Primary Arms micro in its place. http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m168/AR-15_Paul/Pistols/AR%20Pistol_zpslk4gz6rr.jpg What kind of "pistol brace" is that? |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 12:20:22 PM EDT
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Then you are DEAD as soon as you get into a firefight in the dark. If you want to commit suicide, that's fine...but don't go getting other people killed with your insanity. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Aimpoint PRO I've had two aimpoint PROs and traded them off for some stupid reason. Would the PRO be too unwieldy for a pistol? A 10 inch barrel may be a pistol by BATFE standards, but it's close enough to SBR to think in SBR terms. Personally, I'd put some Daniel Defense fixed irons on there and be happy as a pig in slop. Then you are DEAD as soon as you get into a firefight in the dark. If you want to commit suicide, that's fine...but don't go getting other people killed with your insanity. Firefights in the dark and battles........ Battles. |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 12:27:45 PM EDT
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Firefights in the dark and battles........ Battles. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Aimpoint PRO I've had two aimpoint PROs and traded them off for some stupid reason. Would the PRO be too unwieldy for a pistol? A 10 inch barrel may be a pistol by BATFE standards, but it's close enough to SBR to think in SBR terms. Personally, I'd put some Daniel Defense fixed irons on there and be happy as a pig in slop. Then you are DEAD as soon as you get into a firefight in the dark. If you want to commit suicide, that's fine...but don't go getting other people killed with your insanity. Firefights in the dark and battles........ Battles. Really dark Battles, and a red dot that will illuminate the night - 
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Posted: 7/5/2015 12:28:44 PM EDT
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Vortex Sparc |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 12:29:53 PM EDT
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Really dark Battles, and a red dot that will illuminate the night -
That is a really dark battle. |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 12:30:18 PM EDT
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What kind of "pistol brace" is that? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I went with an Aimpoint but think I'm going to try a Primary Arms micro in its place. http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m168/AR-15_Paul/Pistols/AR%20Pistol_zpslk4gz6rr.jpg What kind of "pistol brace" is that? I went with a Thorsden CCA saddle setup vs the one Paul has. That one looks like a stock and not a brace at all. |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 12:45:46 PM EDT
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What kind of "pistol brace" is that? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I went with an Aimpoint but think I'm going to try a Primary Arms micro in its place. http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m168/AR-15_Paul/Pistols/AR%20Pistol_zpslk4gz6rr.jpg What kind of "pistol brace" is that? http://www.amazon.com/Shockwave-Technologies-Blade-Pistol-Stabilizer/dp/B00U6U0F2W |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 12:49:42 PM EDT
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Vortex Strikefire...usually can find them for $99 if you look.
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Posted: 7/5/2015 12:59:14 PM EDT
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Primary Arms red dot works well. 
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Posted: 7/5/2015 1:04:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:What kind of "pistol brace" is that? Shockwave Technologies |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 1:17:51 PM EDT
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Aimpoint PRO Got an Aimpoint ACO on my 8.5". Lighter and cheaper than the PRO if you don't need all the features. Thought it was gonna be heavy but not that much I've also known people who have good luck with the bushnell micro red dot. |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 1:23:56 PM EDT
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I've had two aimpoint PROs and traded them off for some stupid reason. Would the PRO be too unwieldy for a pistol? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Aimpoint PRO I've had two aimpoint PROs and traded them off for some stupid reason. Would the PRO be too unwieldy for a pistol? It's still a rifle. The only reason it's a pistol is because there is no shoulder thingie. You're reading too much into the name. |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 1:29:16 PM EDT
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Just my 2 cents...
MagPul BUIS as BACK UPS...FLIPPED DOWN...NOT DEPLOYED...running just the dot unclutters the sight picture for newer RDS shooter and unlike an RDS equipped pistol the irons on an AR pistol need not be deployed...this speeds up dot/target alignment...NOT saying don't have cowitnessing BUIS but use the RDS as primary sighting system. I too shoot AR pistols...10.5 300BLK and a 10.5 556...ran AIMPOINT Comp ML2 for years until recently shot a SPARC equipped AR pistol...will be selling the AIMPOINT or moving to another platform and acquiring 2 SPARC II ASAP... |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 1:32:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have both. My opinion. Advanced has better battery life by 50 times... I could just stop here, but I'll continue... Advanced has two years longer warranty (3 vs 1). Advanced has a sharper dot on all of the units I've seen. Advanced has clearer glass color. The illuminator on the advanced is not in the way of BUIS when lower 1/3. Advanced has closer parallax shift range (33 yards vs 50). Advanced has an easer brightness adjustment... Am I adjusting the brightness? Nope! I'm removing the battery cap. Yaaaaay! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: PA micro dot This but get the Advanced. The standard PA microdot sucks. How so? I have both. My opinion. Advanced has better battery life by 50 times... I could just stop here, but I'll continue... Advanced has two years longer warranty (3 vs 1). Advanced has a sharper dot on all of the units I've seen. Advanced has clearer glass color. The illuminator on the advanced is not in the way of BUIS when lower 1/3. Advanced has closer parallax shift range (33 yards vs 50). Advanced has an easer brightness adjustment... Am I adjusting the brightness? Nope! I'm removing the battery cap. Yaaaaay! |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 1:33:32 PM EDT
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Vortex Sparc II fify |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 1:56:05 PM EDT
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Then you are DEAD as soon as you get into a firefight in the dark. If you want to commit suicide, that's fine...but don't go getting other people killed with your insanity. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Aimpoint PRO I've had two aimpoint PROs and traded them off for some stupid reason. Would the PRO be too unwieldy for a pistol? A 10 inch barrel may be a pistol by BATFE standards, but it's close enough to SBR to think in SBR terms. Personally, I'd put some Daniel Defense fixed irons on there and be happy as a pig in slop. Then you are DEAD as soon as you get into a firefight in the dark. If you want to commit suicide, that's fine...but don't go getting other people killed with your insanity. I didn't realize night fighting was instant death without electronic sights? Why do we bother engaging the Taliban in daylight if they'd just keel over dead at night without holographic or red dot sights? |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 1:58:02 PM EDT
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I love my vortex for what it costs
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Posted: 7/5/2015 2:01:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Then you are DEAD as soon as you get into a firefight in the dark. If you want to commit suicide, that's fine...but don't go getting other people killed with your insanity. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Aimpoint PRO I've had two aimpoint PROs and traded them off for some stupid reason. Would the PRO be too unwieldy for a pistol? A 10 inch barrel may be a pistol by BATFE standards, but it's close enough to SBR to think in SBR terms. Personally, I'd put some Daniel Defense fixed irons on there and be happy as a pig in slop. Then you are DEAD as soon as you get into a firefight in the dark. If you want to commit suicide, that's fine...but don't go getting other people killed with your insanity. |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 2:32:45 PM EDT
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None of that means the standard red dot sucks. It just means that the new one is better... the standard is still great good.
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PA micro dot This but get the Advanced. The standard PA microdot sucks.
How so? I have both. My opinion.
Advanced has better battery life by 50 times... I could just stop here, but I'll continue... Advanced has two years longer warranty (3 vs 1). Advanced has a sharper dot on all of the units I've seen. Advanced has clearer glass color. The illuminator on the advanced is not in the way of BUIS when lower 1/3. Advanced has closer parallax shift range (33 yards vs 50). Advanced has an easer brightness adjustment... Am I adjusting the brightness? Nope! I'm removing the battery cap. Yaaaaay!
Ok... The micro is good. But the Advanced is the great one. 
My micro went on my sons .22 AR. I put the Advanced on my AR pistol. |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 5:13:47 PM EDT
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FLAME SUIT ON...SCBA DONNED...I know the T1/H1 are the Gold Standard of MICRO RIFLE RDS sights but...IMHO...the Vortex SPARC II is 90-95% of a T1 at 1/3 the cost...after having seen the latest SPARC II TORTURE TEST I am even more convinced...Primary or none of the others can come close to this...couple that with Vortex's life time, no questions asked warranty ad they are going to give AimPoint a run for their money in this market niche...
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