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Posted: 7/6/2015 10:23:29 PM EDT
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lol
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Posted: 7/6/2015 10:28:43 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/6/2015 10:35:53 PM EDT
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exerp of an essay by Hayak In general, it can probably be said that the conservative does not object to coercion or arbitrary power so long as it is used for what he regards as the right purposes. He believes that if government is in the hands of decent men, it ought not to be too much restricted by rigid rules. Since he is essentially opportunist and lacks principles, his main hope must be that the wise and the good will rule - not merely by example, as we all must wish, but by authority given to them and enforced by them.[7] Like the socialist, he is less concerned with the problem of how the powers of government should be limited than with that of who wields them; and, like the socialist, he regards himself as entitled to force the value he holds on other people. essay here. I can't hot link from my iPotato lately. http://object.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/articles/hayek-why-i-am-not-conservative.pdf Amateur essay writing at its finest. Describe the conservative archetype as a believer in what they perceive as right, and then claim they lacks principles. Fucking lol. |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 10:38:34 PM EDT
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Actually, that's the description of a leftist.
a conservative will say that gov shouldn't have the power to overwhelm peoples' lives. |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 10:45:23 PM EDT
[#5]
That's nice, dear.
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Posted: 7/6/2015 10:46:01 PM EDT
[#6]
That is NOT the definition of a Conservative.
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Posted: 7/6/2015 10:46:41 PM EDT
[#7]
Trash talk of a fool.
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Posted: 7/6/2015 10:47:46 PM EDT
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exerp of an essay by Hayak In general, it can probably be said that the conservative does not object to coercion or arbitrary power so long as it is used for what he regards as the right purposes. He believes that if government is in the hands of decent men, it ought not to be too much restricted by rigid rules. Since he is essentially opportunist and lacks principles, his main hope must be that the wise and the good will rule - not merely by example, as we all must wish, but by authority given to them and enforced by them.[7] Like the socialist, he is less concerned with the problem of how the powers of government should be limited than with that of who wields them; and, like the socialist, he regards himself as entitled to force the value he holds on other people. essay here. I can't hot link from my iPotato lately. http://object.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/articles/hayek-why-i-am-not-conservative.pdf Hayak loved him a straw man, huh? Are you trying to say that you "aren't a Conservative," because of a lack of critical thinking skills? |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 10:47:49 PM EDT
[#9]
Catchy title..
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Posted: 7/6/2015 10:48:33 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/6/2015 10:49:23 PM EDT
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exerp of an essay by Hayak In general, it can probably be said that the conservative does not object to coercion or arbitrary power so long as it is used for what he regards as the right purposes. He believes that if government is in the hands of decent men, it ought not to be too much restricted by rigid rules. Since he is essentially opportunist and lacks principles, his main hope must be that the wise and the good will rule - not merely by example, as we all must wish, but by authority given to them and enforced by them.[7] Like the socialist, he is less concerned with the problem of how the powers of government should be limited than with that of who wields them; and, like the socialist, he regards himself as entitled to force the value he holds on other people. essay here. I can't hot link from my iPotato lately. http://object.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/articles/hayek-why-i-am-not-conservative.pdf WTF gold waters gonna have to slap a bitch 
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Posted: 7/6/2015 10:50:19 PM EDT
[#12]
Whew! For a second there I thought Selma wrote that.
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Posted: 7/6/2015 10:51:46 PM EDT
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Oops
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Posted: 7/6/2015 10:51:52 PM EDT
[#14]
We were supposed to care about what you are not because why, again?
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Posted: 7/6/2015 10:53:26 PM EDT
[#15]
Quiet guys. I want to hear what else he has to say!
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Posted: 7/6/2015 10:53:32 PM EDT
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Actually, that's the description of a leftist. a conservative will say that gov shouldn't have the power to overwhelm peoples' lives. Unless it's for the things he wants to control about their lives. |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 10:53:42 PM EDT
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We were supposed to care about what you are not because why, again? Because they are not a pot calling the kettle black. Oh, wait.... 
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Posted: 7/6/2015 10:54:03 PM EDT
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Our conservatives are all just angry (what's new?) that Hayek did not tell them to get off his lawn. Had he done that, they would worship him . . .
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Posted: 7/6/2015 10:54:20 PM EDT
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You are permanently off my Christmas card list OP
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Posted: 7/6/2015 10:55:10 PM EDT
[#20]
FPNI
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Posted: 7/6/2015 10:56:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hayak loved him a straw man, huh? Are you trying to say that you "aren't a Conservative," because of a lack of critical thinking skills? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: exerp of an essay by Hayak In general, it can probably be said that the conservative does not object to coercion or arbitrary power so long as it is used for what he regards as the right purposes. He believes that if government is in the hands of decent men, it ought not to be too much restricted by rigid rules. Since he is essentially opportunist and lacks principles, his main hope must be that the wise and the good will rule - not merely by example, as we all must wish, but by authority given to them and enforced by them.[7] Like the socialist, he is less concerned with the problem of how the powers of government should be limited than with that of who wields them; and, like the socialist, he regards himself as entitled to force the value he holds on other people. essay here. I can't hot link from my iPotato lately. http://object.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/articles/hayek-why-i-am-not-conservative.pdf Hayak loved him a straw man, huh? Are you trying to say that you "aren't a Conservative," because of a lack of critical thinking skills? The essay was written in 1960 and Hayek was Austrian. I'm going to bet his concept of a conservative isn't that of a modern American conservative. Remember that in most of Europe for a very long time a conservative was merely someone who supported the monarchy and objected to changes in the political systems of those countries. |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 10:57:07 PM EDT
[#22]
as expected
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Posted: 7/6/2015 10:57:53 PM EDT
[#23]
Hayak? That's the sound I make when I'm hocking up a loogie.
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Posted: 7/6/2015 10:59:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Whew! For a second there I thought Selma wrote that. You had one job...  |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 10:59:49 PM EDT
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Oop's we're responding to a '14'er...............
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Posted: 7/6/2015 10:59:49 PM EDT
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The essay was written in 1960 and Hayek was Austrian. I'm going to bet his concept of a conservative isn't that of a modern American conservative. Remember that in most of Europe for a very long time a conservative was merely someone who supported the monarchy and objected to changes in the political systems of those countries. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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exerp of an essay by Hayak In general, it can probably be said that the conservative does not object to coercion or arbitrary power so long as it is used for what he regards as the right purposes. He believes that if government is in the hands of decent men, it ought not to be too much restricted by rigid rules. Since he is essentially opportunist and lacks principles, his main hope must be that the wise and the good will rule - not merely by example, as we all must wish, but by authority given to them and enforced by them.[7] Like the socialist, he is less concerned with the problem of how the powers of government should be limited than with that of who wields them; and, like the socialist, he regards himself as entitled to force the value he holds on other people. essay here. I can't hot link from my iPotato lately. http://object.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/articles/hayek-why-i-am-not-conservative.pdf Hayak loved him a straw man, huh? Are you trying to say that you "aren't a Conservative," because of a lack of critical thinking skills? The essay was written in 1960 and Hayek was Austrian. I'm going to bet his concept of a conservative isn't that of a modern American conservative. Remember that in most of Europe for a very long time a conservative was merely someone who supported the monarchy and objected to changes in the political systems of those countries. I don't see how that is any different... From a patriarchy or a constitutional republic. It is a matter of what side of the street you are shouting on. I say don't screw with the constitution yet uphold it & leave me the hell alone while honoring your oath to do so. I'm conservative in that respect. |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 11:00:35 PM EDT
[#27]
14er thread
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Posted: 7/6/2015 11:01:39 PM EDT
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Libertarianism is more dangerous, and less honest about it's intentions than Communism.
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Posted: 7/6/2015 11:05:37 PM EDT
[#29]
Substitute 'Republican' for 'conservative' and it might be just like that.
I am not a 'conservative' - I am a constitutionalist and a firm believer in rule of law and a limited government of defined powers. Most modern, 'establishment' Republicans are not like that. |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 11:06:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Whew! For a second there I thought Selma wrote that. You had one job... http://i.imgur.com/go5rMi5.jpg  And I misspelled Salma.
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Posted: 7/6/2015 11:08:10 PM EDT
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Libertarianism is more dangerous, and less honest about it's intentions than Communism. If you believe that, then you're pretty clueless as to what Libertarianism is. But like the rest of the sheep, attack what you don't understand. |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 11:53:59 PM EDT
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exerp of an essay by Hayak In general, it can probably be said that the conservative does not object to coercion or arbitrary power so long as it is used for what he regards as the right purposes. He believes that if government is in the hands of decent men, it ought not to be too much restricted by rigid rules. Since he is essentially opportunist and lacks principles, his main hope must be that the wise and the good will rule - not merely by example, as we all must wish, but by authority given to them and enforced by them.[7] Like the socialist, he is less concerned with the problem of how the powers of government should be limited than with that of who wields them; and, like the socialist, he regards himself as entitled to force the value he holds on other people. What a load of horseshit! |
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Posted: 7/7/2015 9:43:39 AM EDT
[#33]
So...In ARFland.
Bill O'Rilely = good Friedrich Hayek = moron |
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Posted: 7/7/2015 9:47:55 AM EDT
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So...In ARFland. Bill O'Rilely = good Friedrich Hayek = moron Is this post another example of your brilliant critical thinking skills? You aren't a contemporary American conservative, because an Austrian guy (just 15 years after WWII) associated "conservatives" in HIS home country with Nazis. That's impressive. |
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Posted: 7/7/2015 9:50:18 AM EDT
[#35]
lol
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Posted: 7/7/2015 9:50:19 AM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So...In ARFland. Bill O'Rilely = good Friedrich Hayek = moron Nope, both are douchebags. |
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Posted: 7/7/2015 9:50:37 AM EDT
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Guess he's voting for Hillary then
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Posted: 7/7/2015 9:53:47 AM EDT
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Libertarianism is more dangerous, and less honest about it's intentions than Communism. Apparently, this guy was in on the Libertarian conspiracy as well: 
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Posted: 7/7/2015 9:58:46 AM EDT
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GD attacking Hayek. Can't say I'm surprised. You need to understand that Kayek being Austrian uses the terms "liberal" and "conservative" different than we do.
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Posted: 7/7/2015 10:01:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: GD attacking Hayek. Can't say I'm surprised. You need to understand that Kayek being Austrian uses the terms "liberal" and "conservative" different than we do. Yup. |
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Posted: 7/7/2015 10:08:23 AM EDT
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GD attacking Hayek. Can't say I'm surprised. You need to understand that Hayek being Austrian uses the terms "liberal" and "conservative" different than we do. GD isn't attacking Hayek. GD is attacking anyone who would try to use Hayek's Austrian definition of "conservative" to describe contemporary American Conservatives. THAT is retarded. |
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Posted: 7/7/2015 10:13:22 AM EDT
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Actually, that's the description of a leftist. a conservative will say that gov shouldn't have the power to overwhelm peoples' lives. Conservatives are leftists - antique leftists 2 or 3 iterations behind. They bought into leftist propaganda from the 1700s, immured in the aftereffects of the Enlightenment and Reformation catering to the lowest common denominator peasants. Conservatives love eg government in marriage, until its a kind of marriage they don't like. When called on it, conservatives tend to retreat to memes such as "words mean things" to claim distinctions based on their subjective preferences, assuming like a young child that they have sole domain over the memetic commons. |
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Posted: 7/7/2015 10:16:24 AM EDT
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Conservatives are leftists - antique leftists 2 or 3 iterations behind. They bought into leftist propaganda from the 1700s, immured in the aftereffects of the Enlightenment and Reformation catering to the lowest common denominator peasants. Conservatives love eg government in marriage, until its a kind of marriage they don't like. When called on it, conservatives tend to retreat to memes such as "words mean things" to claim distinctions based on their subjective preferences, assuming like a young child that they have sole domain over the memetic commons. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Actually, that's the description of a leftist. a conservative will say that gov shouldn't have the power to overwhelm peoples' lives. Conservatives are leftists - antique leftists 2 or 3 iterations behind. They bought into leftist propaganda from the 1700s, immured in the aftereffects of the Enlightenment and Reformation catering to the lowest common denominator peasants. Conservatives love eg government in marriage, until its a kind of marriage they don't like. When called on it, conservatives tend to retreat to memes such as "words mean things" to claim distinctions based on their subjective preferences, assuming like a young child that they have sole domain over the memetic commons. "memetic commons" 
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Posted: 7/7/2015 10:18:15 AM EDT
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Actually, that's the description of a leftist. a conservative will say that gov shouldn't have the power to overwhelm peoples' lives. lololololol Good one. When it is convenient for them, conservatives want equal to or MORE government to deal with an issue. Two sides of the same coin. |
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Posted: 7/7/2015 10:19:38 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/7/2015 10:20:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: GD isn't attacking Hayek. GD is attacking anyone who would try to use Hayek's Austrian definition of "conservative" to describe contemporary American Conservatives. THAT is retarded. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: GD attacking Hayek. Can't say I'm surprised. You need to understand that Hayek being Austrian uses the terms "liberal" and "conservative" different than we do. GD isn't attacking Hayek. GD is attacking anyone who would try to use Hayek's Austrian definition of "conservative" to describe contemporary American Conservatives. THAT is retarded. |
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Posted: 7/7/2015 10:22:09 AM EDT
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Hayak loved him a straw man, huh? Are you trying to say that you "aren't a Conservative," because of a lack of critical thinking skills? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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exerp of an essay by Hayak In general, it can probably be said that the conservative does not object to coercion or arbitrary power so long as it is used for what he regards as the right purposes. He believes that if government is in the hands of decent men, it ought not to be too much restricted by rigid rules. Since he is essentially opportunist and lacks principles, his main hope must be that the wise and the good will rule - not merely by example, as we all must wish, but by authority given to them and enforced by them.[7] Like the socialist, he is less concerned with the problem of how the powers of government should be limited than with that of who wields them; and, like the socialist, he regards himself as entitled to force the value he holds on other people. essay here. I can't hot link from my iPotato lately. http://object.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/articles/hayek-why-i-am-not-conservative.pdf Hayak loved him a straw man, huh? Are you trying to say that you "aren't a Conservative," because of a lack of critical thinking skills? That right there, kids, is a non sequitur. lulz. |
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Posted: 7/7/2015 10:22:13 AM EDT
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In general, it can probably be said that the conservative does not object to coercion or arbitrary power so long as it is used for what he regards as the right purposes. He believes that if government is in the hands of decent men, it ought not to be too much restricted by rigid rules. Since he is essentially opportunist and lacks principles, his main hope must be that the wise and the good will rule - not merely by example, as we all must wish, but by authority given to them and enforced by them.[7] Like the socialist, he is less concerned with the problem of how the powers of government should be limited than with that of who wields them; and, like the socialist, he regards himself as entitled to force the value he holds on other people. That can be used to describe people of all political stripes. If he thinks it belongs exclusively to conservatives, he's merely cherry picking, which is also something everyone does. |
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Posted: 7/7/2015 10:24:11 AM EDT
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That would be reasonable, but honestly I don't see that happening in this thread. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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GD attacking Hayek. Can't say I'm surprised. You need to understand that Hayek being Austrian uses the terms "liberal" and "conservative" different than we do. GD isn't attacking Hayek. GD is attacking anyone who would try to use Hayek's Austrian definition of "conservative" to describe contemporary American Conservatives. THAT is retarded. Adjust the blinders. |
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Posted: 7/7/2015 10:24:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Apparently, this guy was in on the Libertarian conspiracy as well: http://images.sodahead.com/polls/003705245/437671508_XfV3sb6_xlarge.jpeg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Libertarianism is more dangerous, and less honest about it's intentions than Communism. Apparently, this guy was in on the Libertarian conspiracy as well: http://images.sodahead.com/polls/003705245/437671508_XfV3sb6_xlarge.jpeg He just talked sweet to cameras. |
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