IFAKs Save Lives at Louisiana Theater Shooting

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Posted: 7/31/2015 10:16:15 AM EDT

http://www.jems.com/articles/2015/07/ifaks-save-lives-at-louisiana-theater-shooting.html?cmpid=jemsnowenl07282015&eid=288512945&bid=1137097

a good reason to always have one available.

Lafayette LA Police Chief Jim Craft and Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal credit Individual First Aid Kits (IFAK) carried by Lafayette police officers as being instrumental in saving multiple lives at the Lafayette movie theater active shooter incident Thursday night.
JEMS: Three Killed, Nine Wounded in Louisiana Theater Shooting

Chief Kraft stated at a Friday afternoon news conference that his officers were originally trained and issued IFAKs to enable them to render self-help in the event they were wounded in the performance of their duties. However, they were also aware the kits could be instrumental in saving lives during an active shooter or other traumatic event.

Posted: 7/31/2015 10:18:10 AM EDT

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I've been looking for a better, more comprehensive kit lately to keep in my SUV. What's the best deal on these right now?

Posted: 7/31/2015 10:55:58 AM EDT

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Go to amazon, Celox, CAT tourniquet, Israeli bandage, nasal trumpets, occlusive dressing etc. Cheaper to build your own kit with real parts than a box with bandaids and neosporin that won't help you when somebody actually needs real help.

Keep it all in here with pistol and mag of choice

http://www.hillpeoplegear.com/Products/tabid/762/CategoryID/1/ProductID/37/Default.aspx

EDIT: I chose celox over quick clot because doctors I have talked to said it works better on people taking blood thinners. I didn't do the research, I am merely taking several MD's word for it.

Posted: 7/31/2015 11:15:23 AM EDT

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Go to amazon, Celox, CAT tourniquet, Israeli bandage, nasal trumpets, occlusive dressing etc. Cheaper to build your own kit with real parts than a box with bandaids and neosporin that won't help you when somebody actually needs real help.

Keep it all in here with pistol and mag of choice
http://www.hillpeoplegear.com/Products/tabid/762/CategoryID/1/ProductID/37/Default.aspx

EDIT: I chose celox over quick clot because doctors I have talked to said it works better on people taking blood thinners. I didn't do the research, I am merely taking several MD's word for it.

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I've been looking for a better, more comprehensive kit lately to keep in my SUV. What's the best deal on these right now?

Go to amazon, Celox, CAT tourniquet, Israeli bandage, nasal trumpets, occlusive dressing etc. Cheaper to build your own kit with real parts than a box with bandaids and neosporin that won't help you when somebody actually needs real help.

Keep it all in here with pistol and mag of choice
http://www.hillpeoplegear.com/Products/tabid/762/CategoryID/1/ProductID/37/Default.aspx

EDIT: I chose celox over quick clot because doctors I have talked to said it works better on people taking blood thinners. I didn't do the research, I am merely taking several MD's word for it.

The newer quick clot is better than the old stuff, but yes...celox will clot Heparinized blood. Best to get the gauze with it built in....just stuff it in the wound.

Posted: 7/31/2015 11:19:09 AM EDT

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The newer quick clot is better than the old stuff, but yes...celox will clot Heparinized blood. Best to get the gauze with it built in....just stuff it in the wound.

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I've been looking for a better, more comprehensive kit lately to keep in my SUV. What's the best deal on these right now?

Go to amazon, Celox, CAT tourniquet, Israeli bandage, nasal trumpets, occlusive dressing etc. Cheaper to build your own kit with real parts than a box with bandaids and neosporin that won't help you when somebody actually needs real help.

Keep it all in here with pistol and mag of choice

http://www.hillpeoplegear.com/Products/tabid/762/CategoryID/1/ProductID/37/Default.aspx
EDIT: I chose celox over quick clot because doctors I have talked to said it works better on people taking blood thinners. I didn't do the research, I am merely taking several MD's word for it.

The newer quick clot is better than the old stuff, but yes...celox will clot Heparinized blood. Best to get the gauze with it built in....just stuff it in the wound.

Yea I hear you, was also told the quick clot burns and decided if I ever had to use it on any of my relatives on thinners, I would choose the option that didn't add to their misery. Small things to consider if you think you might ever use your kit on somebody who you love.

Posted: 7/31/2015 11:33:44 AM EDT

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Tag!

Posted: 7/31/2015 12:13:24 PM EDT

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I still have my old one from the army I keep it in my car. So this is good to know

Posted: 7/31/2015 12:17:56 PM EDT

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Dark Angel Kits are as close to perfect as I have found.

Posted: 7/31/2015 12:23:08 PM EDT

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I agree they are good, but as I listed above I have customized a kit that allows me to carry a Glock 20 and extra mag. I have all the trauma essentials I would want for basic life support. All in a kit bag that is multifunctional.

That all being said, the Dark Angel kits are real nice looking. I think you come out with a final price that is a bit more. Maybe I am wrong. Good call though.

Posted: 7/31/2015 12:39:01 PM EDT

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Start with a large advanced compression bandage, gloves and add a few extras to that.

Oales 6"
Gloves x4
Soft-w TQ
CPR NuMask
Hyfin seals
Chewable asprin
Hemostat clamp
Emt shears
Tweezers
N95 mask
Sharpie

Posted: 7/31/2015 1:47:38 PM EDT

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The newer quick clot is better than the old stuff, but yes...celox will clot Heparinized blood. Best to get the gauze with it built in....just stuff it in the wound.

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I've been looking for a better, more comprehensive kit lately to keep in my SUV. What's the best deal on these right now?

Go to amazon, Celox, CAT tourniquet, Israeli bandage, nasal trumpets, occlusive dressing etc. Cheaper to build your own kit with real parts than a box with bandaids and neosporin that won't help you when somebody actually needs real help.

Keep it all in here with pistol and mag of choice
http://www.hillpeoplegear.com/Products/tabid/762/CategoryID/1/ProductID/37/Default.aspx

EDIT: I chose celox over quick clot because doctors I have talked to said it works better on people taking blood thinners. I didn't do the research, I am merely taking several MD's word for it.

The newer quick clot is better than the old stuff, but yes...celox will clot Heparinized blood. Best to get the gauze with it built in....just stuff it in the wound.

This. The wind will blow it around. You do not want that shit anywhere near your (or your patient) eyes, mouth, etc.

Posted: 7/31/2015 1:51:38 PM EDT

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Ost

Posted: 7/31/2015 3:04:56 PM EDT

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This. The wind will blow it around. You do not want that shit anywhere near your (or your patient) eyes, mouth, etc.

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I've been looking for a better, more comprehensive kit lately to keep in my SUV. What's the best deal on these right now?

Go to amazon, Celox, CAT tourniquet, Israeli bandage, nasal trumpets, occlusive dressing etc. Cheaper to build your own kit with real parts than a box with bandaids and neosporin that won't help you when somebody actually needs real help.

Keep it all in here with pistol and mag of choice

http://www.hillpeoplegear.com/Products/tabid/762/CategoryID/1/ProductID/37/Default.aspx
EDIT: I chose celox over quick clot because doctors I have talked to said it works better on people taking blood thinners. I didn't do the research, I am merely taking several MD's word for it.

The newer quick clot is better than the old stuff, but yes...celox will clot Heparinized blood. Best to get the gauze with it built in....just stuff it in the wound.

This. The wind will blow it around. You do not want that shit anywhere near your (or your patient) eyes, mouth, etc.

I have never had the opportunity to use celox or quick clot in the field. We don't carry either yet. But I am told the quick clot has the undesired effects you speak of. I was TOLD celox does not. Any experience or guidance with that?

Posted: 7/31/2015 3:05:59 PM EDT

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An IFAK is next to useless if you don't know how to use it. Just buying one from Amazon and throwing it in the car isn't going to do much good.

Posted: 7/31/2015 4:04:01 PM EDT

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Agreed. Assuming, which is a terrible thing to do, those interested in this thread might have some training or actually get some training prior to use. But I agree with your statement if you have never used a tourniquet or occlusive dressing you might not want to waste your money unless you learn how to use the items.

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