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Posted: 8/1/2015 5:26:32 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/1/2015 5:31:05 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/1/2015 5:32:51 PM EDT
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Well, that was uneventful.
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Posted: 8/1/2015 5:34:11 PM EDT
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Well that was boring.
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Posted: 8/1/2015 5:34:19 PM EDT
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Well, that was uneventful. Covering up another close call with a dragon |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 5:42:33 PM EDT
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Wouldn't have been necessary if he'd just set his phone to airplane mode.
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Posted: 8/1/2015 5:55:40 PM EDT
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Wouldn't have been necessary if he'd just set his phone to airplane mode. Airplane mode doesn't disable the camera... Kharn |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 6:03:55 PM EDT
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Here's an interesting one that youtube recommended along with OPs video.
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Posted: 8/1/2015 7:41:09 PM EDT
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=165&v=KivHgCeJgiI Here's Shemya, an AFB AFS out in the Bering Sea: http://www.globalsecurity.org/space/facility/images/eareckson_shemya-island.jpg FIFY. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eareckson_Air_Station |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 7:51:36 PM EDT
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Emergency randing
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Posted: 8/1/2015 7:55:03 PM EDT
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Here's an interesting one that youtube recommended along with OPs video.  https://youtu.be/2iW3g9lFN_E
https://youtu.be/diQmNfkc_wY
Have they decided if that was an actual emergency or manufactured exigency because the pilot was being a cock? |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 8:03:15 PM EDT
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Quoted: https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=165&v=KivHgCeJgiI Here's Shemya, an AFB out in the Bering Sea: http://www.globalsecurity.org/space/facility/images/eareckson_shemya-island.jpg |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 8:05:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Have they decided if that was an actual emergency or manufactured exigency because the pilot was being a cock? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Here's an interesting one that youtube recommended along with OPs video. https://youtu.be/2iW3g9lFN_E https://youtu.be/diQmNfkc_wYHave they decided if that was an actual emergency or manufactured exigency because the pilot was being a cock? Yup. Sounded like he said he had 3-4 minutes of fuel. Then when he was told he needed to declare an emergency he's decided to wait. |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 8:10:29 PM EDT
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Water landing. Isnt that really just saying "We;re going to fucking crash into the ocean"? Aside from that small jet up in New York has there ever been a water landing where the plane stayed together and most of the people got out?
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Posted: 8/1/2015 8:20:35 PM EDT
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Water landing. Isnt that really just saying "We;re going to fucking crash into the ocean"? Aside from that small jet up in New York has there ever been a water landing where the plane stayed together and most of the people got out? According to certain experts a 747 can fly straight into the ocean and go directly to the bottom without breaking apart. |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 8:20:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Water landing. Isnt that really just saying "We;re going to fucking crash into the ocean"? Aside from that small jet up in New York has there ever been a water landing where the plane stayed together and most of the people got out?  |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 8:30:44 PM EDT
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Yup. Sounded like he said he had 3-4 minutes of fuel. Then when he was told he needed to declare an emergency he's decided to wait. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Here's an interesting one that youtube recommended along with OPs video. https://youtu.be/2iW3g9lFN_E
https://youtu.be/diQmNfkc_wY
Have they decided if that was an actual emergency or manufactured exigency because the pilot was being a cock? Yup. Sounded like he said he had 3-4 minutes of fuel. Then when he was told he needed to declare an emergency he's decided to wait. The problem is they scheduled a flight into an airport they knew was closed, then only gave them enough fuel to just get to that airport. The airline and pilot screwed up on that one, the airline for being stingy, and the pilot for taking off without enough fuel, knowing the airport would be closed on arrival. |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 8:32:30 PM EDT
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The problem is they scheduled a flight into an airport they knew was closed, then only gave them enough fuel to just get to that airport. The airline and pilot screwed up on that one, the airline for being stingy, and the pilot for taking off without enough fuel, knowing the airport would be closed on arrival. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Here's an interesting one that youtube recommended along with OPs video. https://youtu.be/2iW3g9lFN_E
https://youtu.be/diQmNfkc_wY
Have they decided if that was an actual emergency or manufactured exigency because the pilot was being a cock? Yup. Sounded like he said he had 3-4 minutes of fuel. Then when he was told he needed to declare an emergency he's decided to wait. The problem is they scheduled a flight into an airport they knew was closed, then only gave them enough fuel to just get to that airport. The airline and pilot screwed up on that one, the airline for being stingy, and the pilot for taking off without enough fuel, knowing the airport would be closed on arrival. And the pilot was what, VP of the airline? |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 8:34:39 PM EDT
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Water landing. Isnt that really just saying "We;re going to fucking crash into the ocean"? Aside from that small jet up in New York has there ever been a water landing where the plane stayed together and most of the people got out?
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Posted: 8/1/2015 8:37:06 PM EDT
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Water landing. Isnt that really just saying "We;re going to fucking crash into the ocean"? Aside from that small jet up in New York has there ever been a water landing where the plane stayed together and most of the people got out? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_landing#Passenger_airplane_water_ditchings |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 8:42:05 PM EDT
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Im surprised there was even anyone there to turn on the runway lights.
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Posted: 8/1/2015 8:49:19 PM EDT
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And the pilot was what, VP of the airline? He was the one making the required fuel calculation. If he was literally 3 minutes from bingo at the airport, that means if he hit an unsuspected headwind on the way, he'd be forced into an emergency landing far short of his destination. Aiports for passenger jet traffic are sparse around these parts. I'm guessing it was somewhat intentional, since if he was out of fuel, they'd have to open the airport for him to land, airshow or no airshow. That way the airline keeps it's completed flight record, though their flights are late. If he was just following orders from the airline, he's an idiot for not insisting on required safe minimum fuel. Wait for the investigation to publish results, I'm sure they checked actual fuel level. |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 8:55:27 PM EDT
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He was the one making the required fuel calculation. If he was literally 3 minutes from bingo at the airport, that means if he hit an unsuspected headwind on the way, he'd be forced into an emergency landing far short of his destination. Aiports for passenger jet traffic are sparse around these parts. I'm guessing it was somewhat intentional, since if he was out of fuel, they'd have to open the airport for him to land, airshow or no airshow. That way the airline keeps it's completed flight record, though their flights are late. If he was just following orders from the airline, he's an idiot for not insisting on required safe minimum fuel. Wait for the investigation to publish results, I'm sure they checked actual fuel level. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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And the pilot was what, VP of the airline? He was the one making the required fuel calculation. If he was literally 3 minutes from bingo at the airport, that means if he hit an unsuspected headwind on the way, he'd be forced into an emergency landing far short of his destination. Aiports for passenger jet traffic are sparse around these parts. I'm guessing it was somewhat intentional, since if he was out of fuel, they'd have to open the airport for him to land, airshow or no airshow. That way the airline keeps it's completed flight record, though their flights are late. If he was just following orders from the airline, he's an idiot for not insisting on required safe minimum fuel. Wait for the investigation to publish results, I'm sure they checked actual fuel level. I believe the regs require enough fuel to get to your destination plus fuel to your alternate airport plus 1 hr additional. The pilot should have his license pulled. |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 9:14:57 PM EDT
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I believe the regs require enough fuel to get to your destination plus fuel to your alternate airport plus 1 hr additional. The pilot should have his license pulled. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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And the pilot was what, VP of the airline? He was the one making the required fuel calculation. If he was literally 3 minutes from bingo at the airport, that means if he hit an unsuspected headwind on the way, he'd be forced into an emergency landing far short of his destination. Aiports for passenger jet traffic are sparse around these parts. I'm guessing it was somewhat intentional, since if he was out of fuel, they'd have to open the airport for him to land, airshow or no airshow. That way the airline keeps it's completed flight record, though their flights are late. If he was just following orders from the airline, he's an idiot for not insisting on required safe minimum fuel. Wait for the investigation to publish results, I'm sure they checked actual fuel level. I believe the regs require enough fuel to get to your destination plus fuel to your alternate airport plus 1 hr additional. The pilot should have his license pulled. 45 minutes and a minimum may not have been required depending on the weather. |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 10:11:09 PM EDT
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Well at least the video after it was cool.
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Posted: 8/2/2015 6:41:38 PM EDT
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Im surprised there was even anyone there to turn on the runway lights. There's plenty of people there to keep this operational: 
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Posted: 8/2/2015 7:15:51 PM EDT
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There's plenty of people there to keep this operational: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5f/Cobra_Dane_security_patrol.jpg/1280px-Cobra_Dane_security_patrol.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Im surprised there was even anyone there to turn on the runway lights. There's plenty of people there to keep this operational: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5f/Cobra_Dane_security_patrol.jpg/1280px-Cobra_Dane_security_patrol.jpg They are wearing fatigues, when was that taken? 1985? 
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Posted: 8/2/2015 7:20:01 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/2/2015 7:20:12 PM EDT
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I was on Shemya for about a week one day. |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 7:57:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I was on Shemya for about a week one day. |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 8:05:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: that boring, huh? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I was on Shemya for about a week one day. Not really. There is a girl behind every tree. You can have a blast. |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 8:08:19 PM EDT
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Covering up another close call with a dragon Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Well, that was uneventful. Covering up another close call with a dragon I checked with the other party dragons and they don't know anything about it. Sea dragons are remaining quiet though. |
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Posted: 8/3/2015 11:00:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not really. There is a girl behind every tree. You can have a blast. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I was on Shemya for about a week one day.  |
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Posted: 8/3/2015 12:28:48 PM EDT
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that boring, huh? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I was on Shemya for about a week one day. Yup. I was stationed a couple islands up the Aleutian chain, on Adak. Adak was pretty remote. Shemya was worse. At least on Adak, we did have a few trees. Read the sign closely. 
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Posted: 8/3/2015 12:30:27 PM EDT
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Yup. I was stationed a couple islands up the Aleutian chain, on Adak. Adak was pretty remote. Shemya was worse. At least on Adak, we did have a few trees. Read the sign closely. http://www.cybercentric1.com/resources/Adak-Images/Adak_National_Forest_ss.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I was on Shemya for about a week one day. Yup. I was stationed a couple islands up the Aleutian chain, on Adak. Adak was pretty remote. Shemya was worse. At least on Adak, we did have a few trees. Read the sign closely. http://www.cybercentric1.com/resources/Adak-Images/Adak_National_Forest_ss.jpg 
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Posted: 8/3/2015 12:53:19 PM EDT
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They are wearing fatigues, when was that taken? 1985? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Im surprised there was even anyone there to turn on the runway lights. There's plenty of people there to keep this operational: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5f/Cobra_Dane_security_patrol.jpg/1280px-Cobra_Dane_security_patrol.jpg They are wearing fatigues, when was that taken? 1985? Probably, see the old "billboard" type radars in the background right? That's what the Cobra Dane replaced back in the late '70's or early '80's. The CD has been updated several times since, the last time in 2004-2008 to meet the MDA's Ground-Based Midcourse missile defense system. I was out there for over a month in late 2004 setting up the infrastructure during the first major construction period. Interesting place with a lot of history from WWII onward. |
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Posted: 8/3/2015 12:55:45 PM EDT
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Water landing. Isnt that really just saying "We;re going to fucking crash into the ocean"? Aside from that small jet up in New York has there ever been a water landing where the plane stayed together and most of the people got out? Yes. Boeing Stratoliner ditched in the presence of rescue vessels after orbiting them all night ot burn off fuel. It had a couple of engine failures and wasn't going to make it to Hawaii. |
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Posted: 8/3/2015 2:13:27 PM EDT
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Saw a dead Russian blue fox that some one drunk kicked the shit out of on the island and hung on a pole. Had a sign around his neck. "Get me off the rock". Been there. There is nothing. There is a hell on earth! Midway island is like being stranded in Disney World compared to Shemya. If you think that guy thinks he is F*cked, wait till the sun comes up and he see's where he is.
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Posted: 8/3/2015 2:34:28 PM EDT
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Yes. Boeing Stratoliner ditched in the presence of rescue vessels after orbiting them all night ot burn off fuel. It had a couple of engine failures and wasn't going to make it to Hawaii. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Water landing. Isnt that really just saying "We;re going to fucking crash into the ocean"? Aside from that small jet up in New York has there ever been a water landing where the plane stayed together and most of the people got out? Yes. Boeing Stratoliner ditched in the presence of rescue vessels after orbiting them all night ot burn off fuel. It had a couple of engine failures and wasn't going to make it to Hawaii. Pretty amazing that the only real successful ditching was that long ago. 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan_Am_Flight_6 |
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Posted: 8/3/2015 3:58:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Pretty amazing that the only real successful ditching was that long ago. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan_Am_Flight_6 Also, the foresight to move passengers out of the tail section of the passenger area and into the rest of the plane was amazing, due to be aware of another previous water ditching, where the tail broke off. So many things went right! |
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Posted: 8/3/2015 4:10:15 PM EDT
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Spent a few days on Shemya.
It ain't the end of the world, but you can see it from there. Manned 24-7 entirely (I think) by civilians. A weird bunch. Good food, SHIT weather. Big runway. Shemya has a national forest, too. A lot smaller than the Adak one. Its a bush. |
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Posted: 8/3/2015 4:17:37 PM EDT
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Pretty amazing that the only real successful ditching was that long ago.
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Water landing. Isnt that really just saying "We;re going to fucking crash into the ocean"? Aside from that small jet up in New York has there ever been a water landing where the plane stayed together and most of the people got out? Yes. Boeing Stratoliner ditched in the presence of rescue vessels after orbiting them all night ot burn off fuel. It had a couple of engine failures and wasn't going to make it to Hawaii. Pretty amazing that the only real successful ditching was that long ago.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan_Am_Flight_6 Doesn't the airbus that went into the Hudson a few years ago count? |
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Posted: 8/3/2015 4:31:44 PM EDT
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Water landing. Isnt that really just saying "We;re going to fucking crash into the ocean"? Aside from that small jet up in New York miracle on the Hudson has there ever been a water landing where the plane stayed together and most of the people got out? https://youtu.be/sKC9C0HCNH8Fixed. That was not a "small jet" by any measure. 
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Posted: 8/3/2015 4:43:01 PM EDT
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That video is why bother, good job flying boring video
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Posted: 8/3/2015 4:59:26 PM EDT
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Doesn't the airbus that went into the Hudson a few years ago count? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Water landing. Isnt that really just saying "We;re going to fucking crash into the ocean"? Aside from that small jet up in New York has there ever been a water landing where the plane stayed together and most of the people got out? Yes. Boeing Stratoliner ditched in the presence of rescue vessels after orbiting them all night ot burn off fuel. It had a couple of engine failures and wasn't going to make it to Hawaii. Pretty amazing that the only real successful ditching was that long ago.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan_Am_Flight_6 Doesn't the airbus that went into the Hudson a few years ago count? It was an amazing piece of flying, and luck, but a river a few feet from shore is a whole different animal from the open ocean. There was a very small plane that ditched off of Maui not long ago and it went absolutely perfectly, the passengers said they literally stepped off the rear stairs into the ocean.
http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/breaking/20131211_Small_aircraft_crashes_off_Kalaupapa.html?id=235500801 The lady who died survived the landing, but I think she died of heart failure. |
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Posted: 8/3/2015 5:06:18 PM EDT
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I'm just here to mention that my Father was stationed on Shemya for 2 years. Keeping eyes on the Russian Bear and all. |
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Posted: 8/3/2015 5:09:58 PM EDT
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Yup. I was stationed a couple islands up the Aleutian chain, on Adak. Adak was pretty remote. Shemya was worse. At least on Adak, we did have a few trees. Read the sign closely. http://www.cybercentric1.com/resources/Adak-Images/Adak_National_Forest_ss.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I was on Shemya for about a week one day. Yup. I was stationed a couple islands up the Aleutian chain, on Adak. Adak was pretty remote. Shemya was worse. At least on Adak, we did have a few trees. Read the sign closely. http://www.cybercentric1.com/resources/Adak-Images/Adak_National_Forest_ss.jpg Same here . I made that trip thru shemya a few times |
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