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Posted: 9/1/2015 11:15:48 AM EDT
ASHLAND, Ky. (WKYT/AP) - BREAKING NEWS: - U.S. District Judge David Bunning on Thursday ordered defiant Rowan County clerk Kim Davis to jail after she refuses to issue marriage licenses. Bunning said he could not fine Davis because someone would pay the fine. He said he would send her to jail until she agreed to begin issuing marriage licenses. Davis said "thank you" before she was led out of the courtroom by a U.S. Marshal. She was not in handcuffs. Davis will be taken to either jail in Greenup or Carter county MOREHEAD, Ky. (AP) — A county clerk in Kentucky has again refused to issue marriage licenses to gay couples, invoking her religious beliefs and "God's authority" — this time in defiance of a U.S. Supreme Court ruling against her. On Tuesday morning, Rowan County Clerk Kim Davis remained in her office, door and blinds closed, as the first licenses were denied. But she emerged just a few minutes later, telling the couples and activists gathered there that her office still won't issue licenses "under God's authority." The U.S. Supreme Court on Monday declined to intervene in the case, leaving Davis no legal grounds to refuse to grant the licenses. A district judge could now hold her in contempt of court, which can carry steep fines or jail time. But lawyers for the two gay couples who originally sued in the case said in a motion Tuesday that they want Davis punished with only financial penalties — no jail time. The motion to U.S. District Judge David Bunning says the couples "regrettably" seek to hold the clerk in contempt but "do not seek to compel Davis' compliance through incarceration." Bunning will probably hold a hearing for the couples to present evidence, which could include testimony from Davis. Rowan County, Ky. Clerk Kim Davis shows emotion as she is cheered by a gathering of supporters durin … As an elected official, Davis can't be fired. |
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It's about damn time someone told these jackasses to go fuck themselves.
Anthony Kennedy made his ruling, now let him enforce it! |
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While I don't agree that using "God's authority" as the reason for your actions, she could simply say she has strong personal convictions and will not follow through with the order. But with that aside, I applaud her for standing up to these assholes.
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I fail to understand, if she feels so strongly in her beliefs, why don't she just quit? Can't have your cake and eat it too.
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God bless this woman. She has principals and bigger balls than any of our other so called "conservatives".
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why should I have to get the government's permission to get married? Who gave the government the authority to decide who can marry and who cannot?
The word "marriage" does not appear in the Constitution. Get the government out of the business of marriage. |
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This is what it looks like to live in a Godless and Fascist country.
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She works for the government. It's not her place to make these decisions. Fire her and put someone who will do the job in her place.
Now if she was a private business owner or religious institution making the decision not to serve them, I have no problem with that. |
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Why should she quit her job because a couple of lunatics that no one elected decided to redefine civilization? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I fail to understand, if she feels so strongly in her beliefs, why don't she just quit? Can't have your cake and eat it too. Why should she quit her job because a couple of lunatics that no one elected decided to redefine civilization? I'm guessing you're a big fan of Andrew Jackson. |
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While I applaud her for sticking to her beliefs, I think she's wrong.
If you feel you can't do your job because of religious beliefs, then quit. |
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Quoted: why should I have to get the government's permission to get married? Who gave the government the authority to decide who can marry and who cannot? The word "marriage" does not appear in the Constitution. Get the government out of the business of marriage. View Quote |
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So if the sheriff decided not to issue carry permits because of his strong personal belief, you're okay with that?
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While I don't agree that using "God's authority" as the reason for your actions, she could simply say she has strong personal convictions and will not follow through with the order. But with that aside, I applaud her for standing up to these assholes. View Quote I hope she is made to realize it doesn't work that way. |
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Quoted: They have people for that ![]() View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: It's about damn time someone told these jackasses to go fuck themselves. Anthony Kennedy made his ruling, now let him enforce it! ![]() It could get ugly if the Sheriff decides he's on her side and sends a couple deputies down to arrest any of those federal boys trying to interfere. Remember, this was our great hope after the Sandy Hook shooting when it seemed like gun control was imminent; that the Sheriffs would tell the Feds to go fuck themselves...and they did! |
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but but what if it was a muslim in that position? Lol butt hurt.
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FUCKING OBAMA gets to decide which laws to follow...whats good for the goose...
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Quoted: I'm guessing you're a big fan of Andrew Jackson. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I fail to understand, if she feels so strongly in her beliefs, why don't she just quit? Can't have your cake and eat it too. Why should she quit her job because a couple of lunatics that no one elected decided to redefine civilization? I'm guessing you're a big fan of Andrew Jackson. Andrew Jackson! Now there was a president! |
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While I don't agree that using "God's authority" as the reason for your actions, she could simply say she has strong personal convictions and will not follow through with the order. But with that aside, I applaud her for standing up to these assholes. View Quote She is refusing to issue licenses to ANYBODY, not just gay couples. |
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It's about damn time someone told these jackasses to go fuck themselves. Anthony Kennedy made his ruling, now let him enforce it! ![]() Don't those people work for the President, not SCOTUS? |
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Whether or not you agree with her, you have to agree with what she's representing. If she can be forced to go against her religious beliefs, then what is freedom of religion? At that point, all it is is "Yes, you have freedom of religion, as long as we agree with you."
Similarly - "yes, you have the right to keep and bear arms, but no one needs an assault weapon." |
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She is refusing to issue licenses to ANYBODY, not just gay couples. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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While I don't agree that using "God's authority" as the reason for your actions, she could simply say she has strong personal convictions and will not follow through with the order. But with that aside, I applaud her for standing up to these assholes. She is refusing to issue licenses to ANYBODY, not just gay couples. She's not doing the job she was elected to perform. In most career fields that gets you fired. |
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I fail to understand, if she feels so strongly in her beliefs, why don't she just quit? Can't have your cake and eat it too. Why should she quit her job because a couple of lunatics that no one elected decided to redefine civilization? Because she is sworn to uphold the law? If the law is changed (and it has been) then she needs to follow it or quit in protest. |
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I fail to understand, if she feels so strongly in her beliefs, why don't she just quit? Can't have your cake and eat it too. Why should she quit her job because a couple of lunatics that no one elected decided to redefine civilization? Because she is not willing to do her job. It really is that simple. Great she has beliefs but sometimes your beliefs can cost you and the ones who stand up then are truly worth the adoration. |
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Quoted: Because she is sworn to uphold the law? If the law is changed (and it has been) then she needs to follow it or quit in protest. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I fail to understand, if she feels so strongly in her beliefs, why don't she just quit? Can't have your cake and eat it too. Why should she quit her job because a couple of lunatics that no one elected decided to redefine civilization? Because she is sworn to uphold the law? If the law is changed (and it has been) then she needs to follow it or quit in protest. No. That's how tyranny moves forward. People roll over and over and over and next thing you know it's too late to make a stand. Fuck that. Stand your ground while you have ground left to stand on! |
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I don't know how I feel about this. I'm glad someone is growing a spine, I'm just not sure this is the hill to die on.
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Oh look a couple of queers starting trouble.
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Bull Shit...she is doing nothing the fucking president isnt doing...picking which laws to enforce. .. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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She needs to be recalled. Bull Shit...she is doing nothing the fucking president isnt doing...picking which laws to enforce. .. Or the Governor, the State AG, the Sheriff, Police Chief, DA, local POs. |
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Whether or not you agree with her, you have to agree with what she's representing. If she can be forced to go against her religious beliefs, then what is freedom of religion? At that point, all it is is "Yes, you have freedom of religion, as long as we agree with you." Similarly - "yes, you have the right to keep and bear arms, but no one needs an assault weapon." View Quote If she were acting as an individual, yes. She's not, however. She's representing the state, and the state does not have freedom of religion. |
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No. That's how tyranny moves forward. People roll over and over and over and next thing you know it's too late to make a stand. Fuck that. Stand your ground while you have ground left to stand on! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I fail to understand, if she feels so strongly in her beliefs, why don't she just quit? Can't have your cake and eat it too. Why should she quit her job because a couple of lunatics that no one elected decided to redefine civilization? Because she is sworn to uphold the law? If the law is changed (and it has been) then she needs to follow it or quit in protest. No. That's how tyranny moves forward. People roll over and over and over and next thing you know it's too late to make a stand. Fuck that. Stand your ground while you have ground left to stand on! SQUEEEEEZE something through by any means, and now IT'S LAW! You're an elected official, you have to enforce it! Bullshit. Just because something is a "law" does not mean that it is right. Will it be illegal for doctors to refuse abortions next? |
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Good.
why don't the gays just go to another county and get their license? |
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Quoted: Because she is not willing to do her job. It really is that simple. Great she has beliefs but sometimes your beliefs can cost you and the ones who stand up then are truly worth the adoration. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I fail to understand, if she feels so strongly in her beliefs, why don't she just quit? Can't have your cake and eat it too. Why should she quit her job because a couple of lunatics that no one elected decided to redefine civilization? Because she is not willing to do her job. It really is that simple. Great she has beliefs but sometimes your beliefs can cost you and the ones who stand up then are truly worth the adoration. And you don't think that standing up for her beliefs in this case is going to cost her anything? This is a woman of great courage and integrity. I applaud her! |
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first they came comes to mind, when the gubernment finally decides its time to deal with pesky christians you wont be saying that. thanks for letting us know what side you're on |
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Because she is not willing to do her job. It really is that simple. Great she has beliefs but sometimes your beliefs can cost you and the ones who stand up then are truly worth the adoration. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I fail to understand, if she feels so strongly in her beliefs, why don't she just quit? Can't have your cake and eat it too. Why should she quit her job because a couple of lunatics that no one elected decided to redefine civilization? Because she is not willing to do her job. It really is that simple. Great she has beliefs but sometimes your beliefs can cost you and the ones who stand up then are truly worth the adoration. So basically you're saying that religious people can't do some jobs because of their religous beliefs. An idea which would obviously violate various EEO regulations put forth by the feds. |
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I just want to say that watching the mental twists of people who purport to be conservative in order to justify destroying the rule of law is hilarious and a bit disturbing.
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Please point out where in the Bill of Rights you are guaranteed the "right to Marry". View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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So if the sheriff decided not to issue carry permits because of his strong personal belief, you're okay with that? Please point out where in the Bill of Rights you are guaranteed the "right to Marry". 10th amendment. ![]() |
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Quoted: Don't those people work for the President, not SCOTUS? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: It's about damn time someone told these jackasses to go fuck themselves. Anthony Kennedy made his ruling, now let him enforce it! ![]() Don't those people work for the President, not SCOTUS? |
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first they came comes to mind, when the gubernment finally decides its time to deal with pesky christians you wont be saying that. thanks for letting us know what side you're on View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Get over it or quit. Stop the attention whoring. first they came comes to mind, when the gubernment finally decides its time to deal with pesky christians you wont be saying that. thanks for letting us know what side you're on Real lame ass remark. "What side your on". Durrrrrrr.... |
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Quoted: It could get ugly if the Sheriff decides he's on her side and sends a couple deputies down to arrest any of those federal boys trying to interfere. Remember, this was our great hope after the Sandy Hook shooting when it seemed like gun control was imminent; that the Sheriffs would tell the Feds to go fuck themselves...and they did! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: It's about damn time someone told these jackasses to go fuck themselves. Anthony Kennedy made his ruling, now let him enforce it! ![]() It could get ugly if the Sheriff decides he's on her side and sends a couple deputies down to arrest any of those federal boys trying to interfere. Remember, this was our great hope after the Sandy Hook shooting when it seemed like gun control was imminent; that the Sheriffs would tell the Feds to go fuck themselves...and they did! Doubt anything dramatic will happen. County will get fined and eventually she will knuckle under or be recalled or something. Feds aren't looking to get their shit pushed in again like at Bundy Ranch Interesting little drama in civil disobedience though |
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So basically you're saying that religious people can't do some jobs because of their religous beliefs. An idea which would obviously violate various EEO regulations put forth by the feds. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I fail to understand, if she feels so strongly in her beliefs, why don't she just quit? Can't have your cake and eat it too. Why should she quit her job because a couple of lunatics that no one elected decided to redefine civilization? Because she is not willing to do her job. It really is that simple. Great she has beliefs but sometimes your beliefs can cost you and the ones who stand up then are truly worth the adoration. So basically you're saying that religious people can't do some jobs because of their religous beliefs. An idea which would obviously violate various EEO regulations put forth by the feds. Nope. I am saying if she is truly a Christian woman and this is against her beliefs then she should quit. Same as a Muslim being hired as a farm hand on a pig farm and then claiming he can't be forced to do that job due to his religious beliefs. |
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