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Posted: 2/25/2016 12:25:52 AM EDT
[#1]
none. Do it.
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Posted: 2/25/2016 12:26:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: none. Do it.  |
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Posted: 2/25/2016 12:30:54 AM EDT
[#3]
Vortex 1-6x24, gen2, jm1 reticle
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Posted: 2/25/2016 12:34:16 AM EDT
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Vortex 1-6x24, gen2, jm1 reticle Yep I'd go with a 1-? variable of your choice. ACOG's are awesome but a little limited with the fixed magnification. |
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Posted: 2/25/2016 12:35:27 AM EDT
[#5]
Better in every possible way.
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Posted: 2/25/2016 12:35:50 AM EDT
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Yep I'd go with a 1-? variable of your choice. ACOG's are awesome but a little limited with the fixed magnification. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Vortex 1-6x24, gen2, jm1 reticle Yep I'd go with a 1-? variable of your choice. ACOG's are awesome but a little limited with the fixed magnification. As the owner of 2 ACOGs, I'm going with this ^ |
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Posted: 2/25/2016 12:36:59 AM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep I'd go with a 1-? variable of your choice. ACOG's are awesome but a little limited with the fixed magnification. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Vortex 1-6x24, gen2, jm1 reticle Yep I'd go with a 1-? variable of your choice. ACOG's are awesome but a little limited with the fixed magnification. I just can't get over the "well the military thinks they're good enough" idea... If soldiers love them won't I? |
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Posted: 2/25/2016 12:38:14 AM EDT
[#8]
I had an extra AR a couple years ago, I had put an EOTech sight on it - shot it maybe once or twice. Then an eligible buyer asked if I would part with one of my ARs, so I sold him that one - and kept my Colt with the ACOG.
I never saw the utility of the EOTech, I could always nail the target with the ACOG - but only get close with the EOTech. I still have the EOTech receipt. |
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Posted: 2/25/2016 12:38:56 AM EDT
[#9]
Get the acog, but get the big one.
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Posted: 2/25/2016 12:39:36 AM EDT
[#10]
Buy with confidence.
An ACOG is way better than an EoTech. |
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Posted: 2/25/2016 12:40:26 AM EDT
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Yep I'd go with a 1-? variable of your choice. ACOG's are awesome but a little limited with the fixed magnification. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Vortex 1-6x24, gen2, jm1 reticle Yep I'd go with a 1-? variable of your choice. ACOG's are awesome but a little limited with the fixed magnification. With a bit of practice and both eyes open you can switch between magnified and unmagnified. And when you are moving or if you're really close your brain does it automatically because the magnified image is so messed up. |
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Posted: 2/25/2016 12:41:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Buy with confidence. An ACOG is way better than an EoTech. You get what you pay for, right? |
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Posted: 2/25/2016 12:43:49 AM EDT
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As the owner of 2 ACOGs, I'm going with this ^ Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Vortex 1-6x24, gen2, jm1 reticle Yep I'd go with a 1-? variable of your choice. ACOG's are awesome but a little limited with the fixed magnification. As the owner of 2 ACOGs, I'm going with this ^ Owned ACOG, then ditched it for variables. More useful. |
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Posted: 2/25/2016 12:54:55 AM EDT
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With a bit of practice and both eyes open you can switch between magnified and unmagnified. And when you are moving or if you're really close your brain does it automatically because the magnified image is so messed up. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Vortex 1-6x24, gen2, jm1 reticle Yep I'd go with a 1-? variable of your choice. ACOG's are awesome but a little limited with the fixed magnification. With a bit of practice and both eyes open you can switch between magnified and unmagnified. And when you are moving or if you're really close your brain does it automatically because the magnified image is so messed up. Until you want to go to 6x... |
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Posted: 2/25/2016 12:56:33 AM EDT
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Owned variables (Nightforce 1-4s), ditched 'em for ACOGS. Smaller, lighter, tougher, better glass, wider FOV, no batteries.
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Posted: 2/25/2016 12:59:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: As the owner of 2 ACOGs, I'm going with this ^ Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Vortex 1-6x24, gen2, jm1 reticle Yep I'd go with a 1-? variable of your choice. ACOG's are awesome but a little limited with the fixed magnification. As the owner of 2 ACOGs, I'm going with this ^  |
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Posted: 2/25/2016 1:03:45 AM EDT
[#17]
FPNI.
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Posted: 2/25/2016 1:07:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Owned variables (Nightforce 1-4s), ditched 'em for ACOGS. Smaller, lighter, tougher, better glass, wider FOV, no batteries. This is exactly what appeals to me. Always going to work and work well. |
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Posted: 2/25/2016 2:40:44 AM EDT
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What is the role of the rifle?
For cqc I'd go with an aimpoint to replace the eotech. If you want some magnification then I'd give the acog a good look. I have one of the 4x ones on a 20inch ar-15 and have been very happy with it. I have a 14.5 inch sbr pending that is going to get one as well. They are a little pricy but the one I've had I've been very happy with. |
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Posted: 2/25/2016 2:50:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What is the role of the rifle? For cqc I'd go with an aimpoint to replace the eotech. If you want some magnification then I'd give the acog a good look. I have one of the 4x ones on a 20inch ar-15 and have been very happy with it. I have a 14.5 inch sbr pending that is going to get one as well. They are a little pricy but the one I've had I've been very happy with. My rifle is used 90% of the time on my trips to the mountains. I like to drive out in the middle of nowhere and shoot. My rifle has fallen off the atv before...  That's when I figured it was time to get rid of my budget crap. Got an Eotech and now we know where that got me. I don't really need it for inside about 50 yards. |
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Posted: 2/25/2016 3:13:13 AM EDT
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What is the role of the rifle? Yeah this. Close stuff, AImpoint T-1/2 General purpose gun- ACOG TA33 I have a Mark6 1-6 and like it a lot for hunting and ranges past 500m, but I am not nearly as fast with it even on 1x as with a TA33. TA33 is the bestest general purpose optic for AR. 
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Posted: 2/25/2016 3:38:14 AM EDT
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Get the acog, but get the big one. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/images/images2500x2500/Trijicon_TA648_308H_6x48_ACOG_Riflescope_637814.jpg i had one. i was sitting on the hill on my street, reading a clock tower 8 miles away in downtown boston. it was incredible. with that being said, it felt like it weighed as much as a basic AR did by itself. |
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Posted: 2/25/2016 3:41:28 AM EDT
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Yeah this. Close stuff, AImpoint T-1/2 General Purpose gun- ACOG TA33 I have a Mark6 1-6 and like it a lot for hunting and ranges past 500m, but I am not nearly as fast with it even on 1x as with a TA33. TA33 is the bestest general purpose optic for AR. http://i.imgur.com/C4xrXtB.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What is the role of the rifle? Yeah this. Close stuff, AImpoint T-1/2 General Purpose gun- ACOG TA33 I have a Mark6 1-6 and like it a lot for hunting and ranges past 500m, but I am not nearly as fast with it even on 1x as with a TA33. TA33 is the bestest general purpose optic for AR. http://i.imgur.com/C4xrXtB.jpg RA speaks the truth. My TA33G-H is the best optic I own, hands down. 
Or a T1 for close stuff. 
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Posted: 2/25/2016 3:45:07 AM EDT
[#24]
TA-11 here.
I miss the good old days when a $350 PRO seemed expensive 
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Posted: 2/25/2016 3:45:35 AM EDT
[#25]
No aimpoint?
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Posted: 2/25/2016 11:57:15 AM EDT
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My rifle is used 90% of the time on my trips to the mountains. I like to drive out in the middle of nowhere and shoot. My rifle has fallen off the atv before... That's when I figured it was time to get rid of my budget crap. Got an Eotech and now we know where that got me. I don't really need it for inside about 50 yards.
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What is the role of the rifle? For cqc I'd go with an aimpoint to replace the eotech. If you want some magnification then I'd give the acog a good look. I have one of the 4x ones on a 20inch ar-15 and have been very happy with it. I have a 14.5 inch sbr pending that is going to get one as well. They are a little pricy but the one I've had I've been very happy with. My rifle is used 90% of the time on my trips to the mountains. I like to drive out in the middle of nowhere and shoot. My rifle has fallen off the atv before... That's when I figured it was time to get rid of my budget crap. Got an Eotech and now we know where that got me. I don't really need it for inside about 50 yards.
If that is the case then an acog might be a good option. That or any other low power optic. |
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Posted: 2/25/2016 11:58:54 AM EDT
[#27]
TA33!
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Posted: 2/25/2016 12:06:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah this. Close stuff, AImpoint T-1/2 General purpose gun- ACOG TA33 I have a Mark6 1-6 and like it a lot for hunting and ranges past 500m, but I am not nearly as fast with it even on 1x as with a TA33. TA33 is the bestest general purpose optic for AR. http://i.imgur.com/C4xrXtB.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What is the role of the rifle? Yeah this. Close stuff, AImpoint T-1/2 General purpose gun- ACOG TA33 I have a Mark6 1-6 and like it a lot for hunting and ranges past 500m, but I am not nearly as fast with it even on 1x as with a TA33. TA33 is the bestest general purpose optic for AR. http://i.imgur.com/C4xrXtB.jpg I almost bought a TA-33 last summer! I just couldn't get over the lack of FOV compared to the 11's and 31's. I do like the lack of weight though... |
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Posted: 2/25/2016 12:09:18 PM EDT
[#29]
I love my TA11
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Posted: 2/25/2016 12:09:37 PM EDT
[#30]
TA33 is a nice optic for sure.
I liked the one I had. It weighed practically nothing. |
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Posted: 2/25/2016 12:10:13 PM EDT
[#31]
Do it, I have a TA31 and TA11, awesome
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Posted: 2/25/2016 12:10:22 PM EDT
[#32]
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I just couldn't get over the lack of FOV compared to the 11's and 31's. I do like the lack of weight though... I actually love the small field of view, it allows me to be almost as fast with it as a red dot as I dont get as sucked in/ lost shooting both eyes open up close with it. I dont normally scan looking through scopes on a gun I am walking around with, I pick up something I might want to shoot with the naked eye, then aim in and take a closer look with scope. If I was just sitting around static, yeah I would prefer TA11/31 |
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Posted: 2/25/2016 12:14:31 PM EDT
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Any reason why I shouldn't buy one to replace my Eotech? Price is no big deal I'm capable of saving... so other than that? Only reason to get an acog is if you needs a small 3x optic under 7oz, and the only ACOG to get is the TA-50. you can get it with the Rusted Ace approved green horse shoe too. I had experience with the old TA-50, and I never got into the 33 because the old 50 was better. The TA-50 they sell now is a improved design. I'd take a TA-50 over most 1-4 scopes on the market for use on an all purpose carbine. Two of the best carbine optics ever in my book is the TA-50 and the nightforce 2.5-10x24.. They were both nixed because no one saw the light. Now the TA-50 is back, and the 33 is basically just a bigger 50 with less field of view. Now If only nightforce will start making the 2.5-10x24 again. Its time has come again. I also like the TA-11 with red chevron, but that is because it is the best ACOG. Not necessarily the best carbine optic tho. |
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Posted: 2/25/2016 12:14:44 PM EDT
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Better in every possible way. I love my ACOG, have three of them. |
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Posted: 2/25/2016 12:14:55 PM EDT
[#35]
I like my TA50 Gen2 the best. Smaller than the 33 and has a FOV almost as wide as the 11.
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Posted: 2/25/2016 12:14:56 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I actually love the small field of view, it allows me to be almost as fast with it as a red dot as I dont get as sucked in/ lost shooting both eyes open with it. I dont normally scan looking through scopes on a gun I am walking around with, I pick up something I might want to shoot with the naked eye, then aim in and take a closer look with scope. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I just couldn't get over the lack of FOV compared to the 11's and 31's. I do like the lack of weight though... I actually love the small field of view, it allows me to be almost as fast with it as a red dot as I dont get as sucked in/ lost shooting both eyes open with it. I dont normally scan looking through scopes on a gun I am walking around with, I pick up something I might want to shoot with the naked eye, then aim in and take a closer look with scope. Interesting point of view... To be completely honest the only time I actually got to look through a 33 I was looking across a parking lot that was only about 30 yards wide. Not the best place to get my impressions of an optic. |
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Posted: 2/25/2016 12:16:43 PM EDT
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First big optic purchase was a TA45, now im saving for a TA33. Worth it, I freekin love these things.
I use the TA45 basically like a red dot but without the horrible side effects from my astigmatism. |
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Posted: 2/25/2016 12:19:23 PM EDT
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I like the TA33 for 5.56mm rifles, TA11 for 308 rifles.
previously owned a TA01 and TA31. |
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Posted: 2/25/2016 12:23:16 PM EDT
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I had the 4x32 TA01 with the JP reticle. Tried using it for 3-Gun. Great optic for a DMR. Slow as hell on anything up close or even midrange.
I'm changing everything to 1-x variables with lit reticles. For anything close/fast, you gotta have something non-magnified even if it is irons. |
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Posted: 2/25/2016 12:35:29 PM EDT
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As the owner of 2 ACOGs, I'm going with this ^ Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Vortex 1-6x24, gen2, jm1 reticle Yep I'd go with a 1-? variable of your choice. ACOG's are awesome but a little limited with the fixed magnification. As the owner of 2 ACOGs, I'm going with this ^ In my opinion, ACOGs are great for situations where you need to remove your optic and beat someone to death with it without losing zero on returning it to the rifle. Otherwise, get a 1-4/1-6 variable. |
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Posted: 2/25/2016 12:39:50 PM EDT
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I'm changing everything to 1-x variables with lit reticles. For anything close/fast, you gotta have something non-magnified even if it is irons. Im much faster with my TA33 than I am with my Mark6 1-6 on 1x. |
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Posted: 2/25/2016 12:49:07 PM EDT
[#42]
Another vote for the TA-33
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Posted: 2/25/2016 12:52:52 PM EDT
[#43]
Everyone should own at least one ACOG.
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Posted: 2/25/2016 1:03:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Everyone should own at least one ACOG. I really need to join the club! |
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Posted: 2/25/2016 1:06:36 PM EDT
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Owned variables (Nightforce 1-4s), ditched 'em for ACOGS. Smaller, lighter, tougher, better glass, wider FOV, no batteries. This is me. I kept one variable and added ACOGs. I did look through a Razor II 1-6 the other day and I have to say that thing is freaking fantastic though. |
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Posted: 2/25/2016 1:07:35 PM EDT
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I have a TAO1 that still works like a champ after nearly 20 years of REALLY tough abuse. And the ballistic reticle works with far more loads than it should...
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Posted: 2/25/2016 1:23:13 PM EDT
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TA31F-RMR. There is no better answer.
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Posted: 2/25/2016 1:59:15 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: TA31F-RMR. There is no better answer. Bold strategy, cotton. |
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Posted: 2/25/2016 2:06:35 PM EDT
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Im much faster with my TA33 than I am with my Mark6 1-6 on 1x. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm changing everything to 1-x variables with lit reticles. For anything close/fast, you gotta have something non-magnified even if it is irons. Im much faster with my TA33 than I am with my Mark6 1-6 on 1x. What reticle RA? |
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Posted: 2/25/2016 2:07:27 PM EDT
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the only thing that would make me pause is the eye relief.
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