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Posted: 3/5/2016 12:59:45 PM EDT
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I'll vote for Trump if he gets the nomination, but I've yet to hear from him HOW he plans on doing anything. Lots of WHAT, virtually no HOW. It' deeply troubling. Does that surprise you? He's all fluff and no filler. |
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Posted: 3/5/2016 1:02:11 PM EDT
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The Secret Service visited Beck after he threatened to stab Trump repeatedly if he was near him. http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/03/breaking-secret-service-visits-the-blaze-studios-following-glenn-beck-stabbing-comments/ Except he didn't threaten Trump. He threatened Stu. https://m.facebook.com/stuburguiere#!/story.php?story_fbid=10153466302688379&id=76588423378 Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 3/5/2016 1:02:23 PM EDT
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Trump has already flip-flopped on his "deport them all..." And... He is not going to do it... He has already flip-flopped on this issue.. He is not going to do it... But lets say he does.... How would he be able to do it without expanding the role, power, and expense of the Federal government... Yes... He has already flip-flopped on this... But lets say he flip-flops back... How would he deport 20 million people, and not order "Martial Law" (an enemy of conservative ideals). How could he do it, and not expand the role, power, and expense of the Federal Government. I don't think he could do it without activating the US Military on American soil... That should scare the socks off of *any* *real* conservative... This is the kind of issue that shows who the real conservatives *really* are Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What good is a sanctuary city if all illegals have been deported. Billionaires play by the rules set up by our policy makers. There was a time when Gates was not political. He found out the hard way that he had to spread the wealth. Trump has already flip-flopped on his "deport them all..." And... He is not going to do it... He has already flip-flopped on this issue.. He is not going to do it... But lets say he does.... How would he be able to do it without expanding the role, power, and expense of the Federal government... Yes... He has already flip-flopped on this... But lets say he flip-flops back... How would he deport 20 million people, and not order "Martial Law" (an enemy of conservative ideals). How could he do it, and not expand the role, power, and expense of the Federal Government. I don't think he could do it without activating the US Military on American soil... That should scare the socks off of *any* *real* conservative... This is the kind of issue that shows who the real conservatives *really* are Demagnetize our cities and states. No drivers/business licenses. No social services/welfare/food-stamps. Stiff fines for employers. No more anchor babies/bastardization of the 14thA. Most will self-deport. Look, if you don't think he finally got tired and disgusted with how this country/politicians operate then you can pull up all kinds of baggage. He's discussed it and we've all heard it before. Dogging a candidate in the Primaries is fair game but if one continues doing it after a candidate has been chosen motives come into play. Good luck. |
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Posted: 3/5/2016 1:04:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Does that surprise you? He's all fluff and no filler. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I'll vote for Trump if he gets the nomination, but I've yet to hear from him HOW he plans on doing anything. Lots of WHAT, virtually no HOW. It' deeply troubling. Does that surprise you? He's all fluff and no filler. I'm a little surprised that there hasn't been more substance this far along in the process. I think Hillary, assuming she doesn't end up in legal trouble over the emails and foundation, will kick the shit out of him in the general. Fuck this election cycle, and FHRC |
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Posted: 3/5/2016 1:05:14 PM EDT
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Demagnetize our cities and states. No drivers/business licenses. No social services/welfare/food-stamps. Stiff fines for employers. No more anchor babies/bastardization of the 14thA. Most will self-deport. Look, if you don't think he finally got tired and disgusted with how this country/politicians operate then you can pull up all kinds of baggage. He's discussed it and we've all heard it before. Dogging a candidate in the Primaries is fair game but if one continues doing it after a candidate has been chosen motives come into play. Good luck. Yep, e verify, no more catch and release etc. Wall up, open gate going south. No more work, health care or subsidies.... |
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Posted: 3/5/2016 1:08:22 PM EDT
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Ok lets just say you are right. How is making deals with them going to help? Please explain this to me. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Trump has been telling his supporters to their face "i will make deals with democrats" yet some how they miss this point. Making deals with democrats is part of the reason they hate the GoP yet they support Trump. 
Making deals with democrats is how we got where we are today yet they support Trump.
What do you think is going to happen whenTrump makes his push to repeal obama care with "something" He is on the record saying single payer is good. He is going to sit down with the democrats and say "lets make a deal" and we will end up with something very much like single payer. No. the Republicans have rolled over and played dead. they have made no deals. they have been steam rolled. Ok lets just say you are right. How is making deals with them going to help? Please explain this to me. How did making deals help Reagan? How did making deals get the Declaration, the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights signed and passed? That's fucking life man. WE MAKE DEALS. we horse trade, we hem and haw and get the most we can for what we give. There is no free lunch and in politics this is true as well. You guys who think we need an a guy who won't bargain but will get a million things done are nuts. There is no such person. |
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Posted: 3/5/2016 1:09:53 PM EDT
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How did making deals help Reagan? How did making deals get the Declaration, the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights signed and passed? That's fucking life man. WE MAKE DEALS. we horse trade, we hem and haw and get the most we can for what we give. There is no free lunch and in politics this is true as well. You guys who think we need an a guy who won't bargain but will get a million things done are nuts. There is no such person. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Trump has been telling his supporters to their face "i will make deals with democrats" yet some how they miss this point. Making deals with democrats is part of the reason they hate the GoP yet they support Trump.
Making deals with democrats is how we got where we are today yet they support Trump.
What do you think is going to happen whenTrump makes his push to repeal obama care with "something" He is on the record saying single payer is good. He is going to sit down with the democrats and say "lets make a deal" and we will end up with something very much like single payer. No. the Republicans have rolled over and played dead. they have made no deals. they have been steam rolled. Ok lets just say you are right. How is making deals with them going to help? Please explain this to me. How did making deals help Reagan? How did making deals get the Declaration, the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights signed and passed? That's fucking life man. WE MAKE DEALS. we horse trade, we hem and haw and get the most we can for what we give. There is no free lunch and in politics this is true as well. You guys who think we need an a guy who won't bargain but will get a million things done are nuts. There is no such person. We didn't make a deal for the Declaration... We sent it to king george or who ever and he sent his army. |
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Posted: 3/5/2016 1:16:40 PM EDT
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More rationalizing, blah, blah, blah...................... If Trump was a Mormon I'm guessing you'd overlook all his flaws as well. 
(Your words) "If Trump was a Mormon..." If Trump wasn't a New York playboy, I might overlook all his flaws. If Trump didn't cheat on his multiple wives, I might overlook all his flaws. If Trump didn't openly brag about committing adultery and destroying multiple families, I might overlook all his flaws. If Trump didn't publish support for socialism, including "single-payer" healthcare, I might overlook all his flaws. Good grief Trump has a myriad of flaws that are difficult to overlook from any conservative angle... Trumps most glaring flaw from *any* conservative angle is his support for expanding the power and cost of the Federal Government... |
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Posted: 3/5/2016 1:19:27 PM EDT
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Which is different from the current Republican Party, where? I voted Cruz in the primary, but seriously? I'll still roll the dice on Trump. I see most conservatives trying to make course corrections, and doing-battle against the liberals who are slowly gaining numbers with promises of social programs. I see most conservatives trying to do the right thing. I see course corrections as a positive over driving the bus off the cliff. Both Hillary and Trump want full-on socialism. Both want individual and state rights eliminated in favor of a stronger, more-expensive Federal Government. And Trump has no ethics or morality and has openly-bragged about destroying multiple families through adultery. I cannot support Trumps socialism, and I cannot support his ethics. |
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Posted: 3/5/2016 1:28:15 PM EDT
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We didn't make a deal for the Declaration... We sent it to king george or who ever and he sent his army. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Trump has been telling his supporters to their face "i will make deals with democrats" yet some how they miss this point. Making deals with democrats is part of the reason they hate the GoP yet they support Trump.
Making deals with democrats is how we got where we are today yet they support Trump.
What do you think is going to happen whenTrump makes his push to repeal obama care with "something" He is on the record saying single payer is good. He is going to sit down with the democrats and say "lets make a deal" and we will end up with something very much like single payer. No. the Republicans have rolled over and played dead. they have made no deals. they have been steam rolled. Ok lets just say you are right. How is making deals with them going to help? Please explain this to me. How did making deals help Reagan? How did making deals get the Declaration, the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights signed and passed? That's fucking life man. WE MAKE DEALS. we horse trade, we hem and haw and get the most we can for what we give. There is no free lunch and in politics this is true as well. You guys who think we need an a guy who won't bargain but will get a million things done are nuts. There is no such person. We didn't make a deal for the Declaration... We sent it to king george or who ever and he sent his army. You're correct. Thomas just penned the thing and sent it across the Atlantic.
Common man, it was discussed written, dealt with, re- written, discussed, re-written, etc. etc. if you don't think deals were cut to get certain language in and certain language out, well I can't help. That's just the way shit gets done. |
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Posted: 3/5/2016 1:32:04 PM EDT
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Demagnetize our cities and states. No drivers/business licenses. No social services/welfare/food-stamps. Stiff fines for employers. No more anchor babies/bastardization of the 14thA. Most will self-deport. Look, if you don't think he finally got tired and disgusted with how this country/politicians operate then you can pull up all kinds of baggage. He's discussed it and we've all heard it before. Dogging a candidate in the Primaries is fair game but if one continues doing it after a candidate has been chosen motives come into play. Good luck. It is all a moot point anyway. Trump has already flip-flopped from his original "deport them all" when he was pressed on it. Caved like the socialist coward that he is. But... You would not be able to do it cheaply. You would not be able to do it logistically without a full-activation of the US Military on American soil. Trump ran his mouth. Retards ate it up. Then he flip-flopped, and the retards still think he stuck to his original platform issue. He is the same as Hillary. They both supported sanctuary cities. As long as there is a draw, there can be 10 walls. There is still somewhere for them to go... There is absolutely no way anyone can deport 20 million people, and not activate the US Military to go door-to-door on American soil... Socialists have wet dreams about Trump getting elected. They have wet dreams of camps, bussing people, and deporting millions. It is logistically impossible. That is why Trump has backed-down, and only retards think he will *actually* make even a modicum of effort to do what he originally claim... He has already backed-down. He has already flip-flopped. He is doing nothing to actually fix immigration. He isn't going to deport 20 million illegals... |
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Posted: 3/5/2016 1:35:56 PM EDT
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Yep, e verify, no more catch and release etc. Wall up, open gate going south. No more work, health care or subsidies.... Next you will claim that Trump did not support Sanctuary-cities, anti-gun De Blasio as early as two years ago. You *really* think that Trump won't compromise with "Sanctuary Cities" mayors? The point of sanctuary cities is that they say, "F-You" to federal laws and regulations, and provide services to illegals, regardless of what the Feds say. The Feds could say, "No more Fed services." The (Trump-supported) sanctuary-cities mayors would simply say, "Fine, we still won't stop *our* services..." Trumps plan for a wall only makes sense to retards, idiots, and Democrats who know how beatable he is in a general election... As long as there are (Trump supported) sanctuary cities, Trump can threaten a wall, and threaten to enforce Federal regulations from a top-heavy Federal Government, the cities don't care... |
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Posted: 3/5/2016 1:38:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Beck is finished and it's kind of odd that he chose to go all in during the primaries. What a waste. This is Beck's way of getting noticed. He went nuts when he was on Fox which started his undoing, then he went to the Internet expecting a following to maintain his lifestyle, which didn't happen. Now he seeks the biggest story to make noise about and be noticed again. And I remember watching him on Fox every day, until he just lost credibility - then *poof* he was gone. |
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Posted: 3/5/2016 1:39:02 PM EDT
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I agree. Also, in before the army of haters. I'm a hater of Beck. Snake oil salesman You could be talking about Beck or Trump with this statement... |
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Posted: 3/5/2016 1:44:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Trump is playing you with smoke and mirrors. You can't, "build a wall" and have it work while you are supporting sanctuary cities. Trump supported anti-gun, sanctuary-cities mayor De Blasio as early as two years ago. The wall won't work as long as there are sanctuary cities for the folks to get to. In Trumps published book, "The America We Deserve" Trump clearly-outlines his socialist agenda on healthcare. Trumps clearly-published in plain-English agenda is the *exact* same as Sanders and Hillary. Trump is a socialist. Hillary is a socialist. Trump vs. Hillary is evil vs. evil. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I don't always pay attention to every word that comes out of these politicians pie holes but when did Trump say he wanted more government? His healthcare plan seems to be in line with conservative ideas and his immigration policy is far right. Trump is playing you with smoke and mirrors. You can't, "build a wall" and have it work while you are supporting sanctuary cities. Trump supported anti-gun, sanctuary-cities mayor De Blasio as early as two years ago. The wall won't work as long as there are sanctuary cities for the folks to get to. In Trumps published book, "The America We Deserve" Trump clearly-outlines his socialist agenda on healthcare. Trumps clearly-published in plain-English agenda is the *exact* same as Sanders and Hillary. Trump is a socialist. Hillary is a socialist. Trump vs. Hillary is evil vs. evil. Honestly, I don't even know why you bother any longer. The people who know and understand this understad it, and the people who are still for Trump despite all of the evidence that has been presented to them certainly aren't going to change their minds right now. These people are, in my opinion, lost souls who will never 'get it'. They want a big talking strong man, and that's what Trump is. Trump fills that role perfectly. The biggest problem that I can see is that there are people out there who are 'self-describing' themselves as 'conservatives', but these people fail to realize that they aren't conservative at all, and probably never will realize it. The people who get it, get it -- and the people who don't, don't. |
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Posted: 3/5/2016 1:44:27 PM EDT
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next 8 years wont be fun for you
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You can call Beck crazy but this is the same exact reason why I and many like me are anti Trump.  http://youtu.be/Jpf5BipKbh4 |
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Posted: 3/5/2016 1:45:06 PM EDT
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I like Trump, I admire him. I would like to be successful like him one day. I don't aspire to be like Cruz or Rubio or Kasich or Hillary or Sanders.
None have achieved what Trump has achieved and if it means working the system to get what he wanted, wouldn't any of you have done the same thing. You have to consider that his mind wasn't always in politics and his opinions were that of any other uninformed citizen, but when the stakes become real and you start looking deeper into the possible solutions to problems I can understand how he can change his position. It just solidifies his true nature as a conservative, Reagan started out as a Democrat too. |
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Posted: 3/5/2016 1:46:15 PM EDT
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Does that surprise you? He's all fluff and no filler. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'll vote for Trump if he gets the nomination, but I've yet to hear from him HOW he plans on doing anything. Lots of WHAT, virtually no HOW. It' deeply troubling. Does that surprise you? He's all fluff and no filler. https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions A lot more detailed than Cruz's policy plans on his website |
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Posted: 3/5/2016 1:47:20 PM EDT
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https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions A lot more detailed than Cruz's policy plans on his website Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'll vote for Trump if he gets the nomination, but I've yet to hear from him HOW he plans on doing anything. Lots of WHAT, virtually no HOW. It' deeply troubling. Does that surprise you? He's all fluff and no filler. https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions A lot more detailed than Cruz's policy plans on his website Has he bothered to read them himself? 
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Posted: 3/5/2016 1:48:42 PM EDT
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This is Beck's way of getting noticed. It does not hurt Becks position that he called-it years ago that there would be a Republican "Obama" in a few years... It certainly does not hurt Becks position that he called it that there would be a Republican promising to use big-government to fix all of societies ills. Yeah, Beck is trying to make a buck. It does not hurt Becks position that he is right on Trumps socialism. It also does not hurt Becks position that he has been pro-gun and pro-preps for a lot longer than Trump. In fact Beck was fighting the Democrat National Committee back when Trump was a formal registered anti-gun, sanctuary-cities Democrat... Kind of funny to think about... Beck is trying to make a buck. Might even be a little of a gun nut... Who knows. I doubt he is certifiable. Course everyone on the left would say that about gun owners and preppers... Yeah, he might be a gun nut... He is 100% correct on Trumps socialist agenda, though. |
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Posted: 3/5/2016 1:50:40 PM EDT
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Glenn Beck is right about Trump.
Wait & watch, you'll see. Cheers! -JC |
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Posted: 3/5/2016 1:51:00 PM EDT
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https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions A lot more detailed than Cruz's policy plans on his website Cruz wrote his. Cruz has been a lifelong defender of the 2nd, and a lifelong conservative. Are you claiming that Trump has actually *read* what others wrote and posted on his website? |
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Posted: 3/5/2016 1:52:44 PM EDT
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And so are how have any of the republicans been any different in the past ten years - at least. They've told us all these things they will do to stop obamacare, cut back spending, stop the rise of islam. They've done none of that, instead doing the opposite, and helping move amnesty forward.
Two or three conservative senators sometime put up opposition, knowing their efforts, if true, will amount to no difference. So why should we believe anyone? Its time for an end to the professional politician class. |
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Posted: 3/5/2016 1:53:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We didn't make a deal for the Declaration... We sent it to king george or who ever and he sent his army. We made deals among ourselves when we sent off Declaration of Independence. Do you think all of the Revolutionaries were of the same mindset? That they agreed on everything? They debated amongst themselves and there were different factions and camps. Some wanted further peaceful resolutions. Others wanted violence. Some wanted to strike a compromise. Etc.... |
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Posted: 3/5/2016 1:56:30 PM EDT
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They've told us all these things they will do to stop obamacare, If... And that is a big IF... If you *really* want to do the things you wrote there... Who is your candidate. It *cannot* be Trump... Trump's "single payer" healthcare initiative (that matches Hillary and Sanders word-for-word) is to the extreme-left of Obamacare. All the things you wrote are good and moral and right things... I don't see Trump making a modicum of effort on *any* of those things, though. Trump is a big-government socialist. Cruz supporter? He has been a lifelong conservative. |
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Posted: 3/5/2016 2:02:07 PM EDT
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We made deals among ourselves when we sent off Declaration of Independence. Do you think all of the Revolutionaries were of the same mindset? That they agreed on everything? They debated amongst themselves and there were different factions and camps. Some wanted further peaceful resolutions. Others wanted violence. Some wanted to strike a compromise. Etc.... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We didn't make a deal for the Declaration... We sent it to king george or who ever and he sent his army. We made deals among ourselves when we sent off Declaration of Independence. Do you think all of the Revolutionaries were of the same mindset? That they agreed on everything? They debated amongst themselves and there were different factions and camps. Some wanted further peaceful resolutions. Others wanted violence. Some wanted to strike a compromise. Etc.... Go to 2:40 and Sgt Muldoon will give you the straight poop. http://www.tcm.com/mediaroom/video/492545/Green-Berets-The-Movie-Clip-Communist-Domination.html |
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Posted: 3/5/2016 2:02:54 PM EDT
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The fact that all of the so called "leaders" in our country are scrambling to attack him from all directions is all I need to support Trump. The same "leaders" who gave us obama and have been directing us down the wrong path for over 20 years now. Fuck them. I don't care if trump is the anti-christ, I would choose any outsider over what we have now. My position exactly. McConnel, Ryan, Reid, Pelosi, Boehner, Obama, etc, the same damn person just playing different characters for the people. For good or bad I'm trying something new this time around. |
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Posted: 3/5/2016 2:04:35 PM EDT
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If... And that is a big IF... If you *really* want to do the things you wrote there... Who is your candidate. It *cannot* be Trump... Trump's "single payer" healthcare initiative (that matches Hillary and Sanders word-for-word) is to the extreme-left of Obamacare. All the things you wrote are good and moral and right things... I don't see Trump making a modicum of effort on *any* of those things, though. Trump is a big-government socialist. Cruz supporter? He has been a lifelong conservative. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They've told us all these things they will do to stop obamacare, If... And that is a big IF... If you *really* want to do the things you wrote there... Who is your candidate. It *cannot* be Trump... Trump's "single payer" healthcare initiative (that matches Hillary and Sanders word-for-word) is to the extreme-left of Obamacare. All the things you wrote are good and moral and right things... I don't see Trump making a modicum of effort on *any* of those things, though. Trump is a big-government socialist. Cruz supporter? He has been a lifelong conservative. I don't do this very often....but you're a liar - you know that is not his position - From the website: "However, it is not enough to simply repeal this terrible legislation. We will work with Congress to make sure we have a series of reforms ready for implementation that follow free market principles and that will restore economic freedom and certainty to everyone in this country. By following free market principles and working together to create sound public policy that will broaden healthcare access, make healthcare more affordable and improve the quality of the care available to all Americans." " By allowing full competition in this market, insurance costs will go down and consumer satisfaction will go up" Now, admittedly, he will maintain some Medicaid provisions but transfer control of those to the states - That's the way it is supposed to be...Stop lying. It is nothing like that of Sanders or HIllary. |
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Posted: 3/5/2016 2:06:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My position exactly. McConnel, Ryan, Reid, Pelosi, Boehner, Obama, etc, the same damn person just playing different characters for the people. For good or bad I'm trying something new this time around. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The fact that all of the so called "leaders" in our country are scrambling to attack him from all directions is all I need to support Trump. The same "leaders" who gave us obama and have been directing us down the wrong path for over 20 years now. Fuck them. I don't care if trump is the anti-christ, I would choose any outsider over what we have now. My position exactly. McConnel, Ryan, Reid, Pelosi, Boehner, Obama, etc, the same damn person just playing different characters for the people. For good or bad I'm trying something new this time around. Cruz is an 'outsider'. Why not go for Cruz? Instead you've decided to double-down on the Obama 'hope and change' rhetoric with a New York liberal? I mean, if it wasn't so fucking sad, it would actually be pretty funny. If you had told me that all of the Tea Party stuff of 2009/2010 would lead to the Republicans nominating a 'big city thinking' New York liberal strongman, I would have laughed in your face....and yet here we are. |
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Posted: 3/5/2016 2:18:18 PM EDT
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How did making deals help Reagan? How did making deals get the Declaration, the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights signed and passed? That's fucking life man. WE MAKE DEALS. we horse trade, we hem and haw and get the most we can for what we give. There is no free lunch and in politics this is true as well. You guys who think we need an a guy who won't bargain but will get a million things done are nuts. There is no such person. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Trump has been telling his supporters to their face "i will make deals with democrats" yet some how they miss this point. Making deals with democrats is part of the reason they hate the GoP yet they support Trump.
Making deals with democrats is how we got where we are today yet they support Trump.
What do you think is going to happen whenTrump makes his push to repeal obama care with "something" He is on the record saying single payer is good. He is going to sit down with the democrats and say "lets make a deal" and we will end up with something very much like single payer. No. the Republicans have rolled over and played dead. they have made no deals. they have been steam rolled. Ok lets just say you are right. How is making deals with them going to help? Please explain this to me. How did making deals help Reagan? How did making deals get the Declaration, the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights signed and passed? That's fucking life man. WE MAKE DEALS. we horse trade, we hem and haw and get the most we can for what we give. There is no free lunch and in politics this is true as well. You guys who think we need an a guy who won't bargain but will get a million things done are nuts. There is no such person. Thats not what i asked, how is making deals with democrats going to help us now? when they want to ban guns maybe make a deal to just ban a few? When they want to raise taxes maybe just raise them 1/2 as much as they wanted. They they want to double the size of welfare maybe we make a deal to just increase it 50%? Maybe we make a deal and don't let them take all our rights away maybe just a few? This guy right here is what baffles me. "Screw the GoPe they didn't stop the democrats!" But supports they guy that wants to work with democrats? Just massive WTF!!! |
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Posted: 3/5/2016 2:34:30 PM EDT
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I don't do this very often....but you're a liar - you know that is not his position - You can't expect too much from those who support Trumps socialist platform. Here is Trumps own published written word on the subject of his position on healthcare: "The Canadian plan also helps Canadians live longer and healthier than America. … We need, as a nation, to reexamine the single-payer plan, as many individual states are doing," -Donald Trump, "The America We Deserve." Trump has further clarified his socialist stance on healthcare *numerous* times... As an official candidate in 2000 Trump officially ran on a socialist platform: "I would put forth a comprehensive health care program and fund it with an increase in corporate taxes, " -Donald Trump, "The Advocate." He also clarified his socialist position to Larry King... "If you can’t take care of your sick in the country, forget it, it’s all over. ... I believe in universal healthcare," Donald Trump on Larry King. I believe his own words, and his own published platform in his published book, "The America We Desserve" over what someone else wrote on his website. Trump has already shown clear confusion over what was actually posted on his website. He did not write it, and it is honestly questionable as to whether he has read it. He has stated that he supported the mandate --this election season-- He flip-flopped on his mandate support, but clarified that his agenda was indeed socialist and claimed that --on healthcare-- he would, "make the government pay for it..." Yes, Trump clearly communicated, and clearly printed support for "single-payer" healthcare. If you doubt it, you can see it written by Trumps own hand in the book, "The America We Deserve." Quoted:
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Posted: 3/5/2016 3:03:19 PM EDT
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Cruz wrote his. Cruz has been a lifelong defender of the 2nd, and a lifelong conservative. Are you claiming that Trump has actually *read* what others wrote and posted on his website? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions A lot more detailed than Cruz's policy plans on his website Cruz wrote his. Cruz has been a lifelong defender of the 2nd, and a lifelong conservative. Are you claiming that Trump has actually *read* what others wrote and posted on his website? That's what's so astounding. Trump doesn't know his own policies because he didn't write them. If you watched the debates, that was blatantly obvious. Trump has no detailed plans. He only speaks in generalities. But in Trump's defense, many can't comprehend more than simple platitudes like "Make America Great Again" or "Build The Wall". Democrats have relied on that for years. "I love the poorly educated!" - Trump (2/24/2016). He sure does. |
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Beck is Crazy.... to agree with a certified crazy puts you in the same category.[/span] Beck is a gun owner. He advocates gun ownership. Beck is into preps and advocates preps. There are folks on the left who call someone into guns and preps, "crazy." As for his pointing-out Trumps liberal record and socialist agenda... That does not make him crazy. |
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That's what's so astounding. Trump doesn't know his own policies because he didn't write them. If you watched the debates, that was blatantly obvious. Trump has no detailed plans. He only speaks in generalities. But in Trump's defense, many can't comprehend more than simple platitudes like "Make America Great Again" or "Build The Wall". Democrats have relied on that for years. "I love the poorly educated!" - Trump (2/24/2016). He sure does. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions A lot more detailed than Cruz's policy plans on his website Cruz wrote his. Cruz has been a lifelong defender of the 2nd, and a lifelong conservative. Are you claiming that Trump has actually *read* what others wrote and posted on his website? That's what's so astounding. Trump doesn't know his own policies because he didn't write them. If you watched the debates, that was blatantly obvious. Trump has no detailed plans. He only speaks in generalities. But in Trump's defense, many can't comprehend more than simple platitudes like "Make America Great Again" or "Build The Wall". Democrats have relied on that for years. "I love the poorly educated!" - Trump (2/24/2016). He sure does. Most of the higher educated folks are for Bernie. Go figure. |
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Posted: 3/5/2016 3:10:32 PM EDT
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You can call Beck crazy but this is the same exact reason why I and many like me are anti Trump. http://youtu.be/Jpf5BipKbh4The next 80 years won't be fun for any of us if Trump cuts a deal in a SCOTUS judge or three. |
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Beck is a gun owner. He advocates gun ownership. Beck is into preps and advocates preps. There are folks on the left who call someone into guns and preps, "crazy." As for his pointing-out Trumps liberal record and socialist agenda... That does not make him crazy. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Beck is Crazy.... to agree with a certified crazy puts you in the same category.[/span] Beck is a gun owner. He advocates gun ownership. Beck is into preps and advocates preps. There are folks on the left who call someone into guns and preps, "crazy." As for his pointing-out Trumps liberal record and socialist agenda... That does not make him crazy. Beck isn't crazy but his judgement on this issue is stupid. And calling Trump a socialist is just as stupid. The Obama presidency was a real eye opener for many folks including it seems, Trump. Does Trump have a clear understating of how government operate? Probably not as he hasn't spent his life in public office. Is he smart enough to run the country until he gets up to speed? Hell yes! Trump is many things but he is no dummy. |
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Posted: 3/5/2016 3:16:38 PM EDT
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But in Trump's defense, many can't comprehend more than simple platitudes like "Make America Great Again" or "Build The Wall". Democrats have relied on that for years. "I love the poorly educated!" - Trump (2/24/2016). He sure does. No kidding. There are supporters of Trumps socialist platform right here still claiming that trump wants to deport 20 million illegals. Trump said, "deport them all." Socialist retards who can't wrap their heads around logistics went nuts at thoughts of armed-troops going door-to-door Nazi-style on American soil eliminating the rights of American citizens looking for non-citizens. None of the retards can add or subtract. They think it is cool that Trump wants to build a wall, and deport 20 million, all the while "Sanctuary-Cities" (that are supported by Trump) are still in-place. What a bunch of idiots. As long as there are sanctuary-cities, there will be illegals flocking here, and finding jobs, and not being deported. |
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You can call Beck crazy but this is the same exact reason why I and many like me are anti Trump. http://youtu.be/Jpf5BipKbh4The next 80 years won't be fun for any of us if Trump cuts a deal in a SCOTUS judge or three. Hard to say. Bush gave us Roberts with the blessing of Cruz. Go figure. Not to mention Justice Souter. |
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Posted: 3/5/2016 3:27:45 PM EDT
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No kidding. There are supporters of Trumps socialist platform right here still claiming that trump wants to deport 20 million illegals. Trump said, "deport them all." Socialist retards who can't wrap their heads around logistics went nuts at thoughts of armed-troops going door-to-door Nazi-style on American soil eliminating the rights of American citizens looking for non-citizens. None of the retards can add or subtract. They think it is cool that Trump wants to build a wall, and deport 20 million, all the while "Sanctuary-Cities" (that are supported by Trump) are still in-place. What a bunch of idiots. As long as there are sanctuary-cities, there will be illegals flocking here, and finding jobs, and not being deported. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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But in Trump's defense, many can't comprehend more than simple platitudes like "Make America Great Again" or "Build The Wall". Democrats have relied on that for years. "I love the poorly educated!" - Trump (2/24/2016). He sure does. No kidding. There are supporters of Trumps socialist platform right here still claiming that trump wants to deport 20 million illegals. Trump said, "deport them all." Socialist retards who can't wrap their heads around logistics went nuts at thoughts of armed-troops going door-to-door Nazi-style on American soil eliminating the rights of American citizens looking for non-citizens. None of the retards can add or subtract. They think it is cool that Trump wants to build a wall, and deport 20 million, all the while "Sanctuary-Cities" (that are supported by Trump) are still in-place. What a bunch of idiots. As long as there are sanctuary-cities, there will be illegals flocking here, and finding jobs, and not being deported. The .Gov forced out 1 million Mexicans in the 1930s during the depression. If you don't think with the resources we have today we couldn't deport 11 million then you are mistaken. |
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And calling Trump a socialist is just as stupid. The Obama presidency was a real eye opener for many folks including it seems, Trump. Trump is a socialist. "Single payer" is socialism. The Obama administration did not wake people up enough... Because Obama said, "I will use the government to fix problems..." And Trump is saying the same thing. Trump is the worst kind of socialist. He wants to make government bigger, and more expensive. But he always promises that some other boogeyman will pay for it. That is the worst kind of socialist. Because the taxpayer always ends up footing the bill. Trump is the same as Obama... They both ran on the big government platform, "make the government pay for it..." Quoted:
Does Trump have a clear understating of how government operate? Probably not as he hasn't spent his life in public office. Is he smart enough to run the country until he gets up to speed? Hell yes! Trump is many things but he is no dummy. Trump has been a candidate since 1988. Trump has been running for President since 1988 For Trump and supporters of his liberal agenda and socialist platform to claim that Trump has not grasped it yet is absolutely ridiculous... Trump has spent a lot of time running for office. If he does not grasp it yet, I would not call him "intelligent." |
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No kidding. There are supporters of Trumps socialist platform right here still claiming that trump wants to deport 20 million illegals. Trump said, "deport them all." Socialist retards who can't wrap their heads around logistics went nuts at thoughts of armed-troops going door-to-door Nazi-style on American soil eliminating the rights of American citizens looking for non-citizens. None of the retards can add or subtract. They think it is cool that Trump wants to build a wall, and deport 20 million, all the while "Sanctuary-Cities" (that are supported by Trump) are still in-place. What a bunch of idiots. As long as there are sanctuary-cities, there will be illegals flocking here, and finding jobs, and not being deported. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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But in Trump's defense, many can't comprehend more than simple platitudes like "Make America Great Again" or "Build The Wall". Democrats have relied on that for years. "I love the poorly educated!" - Trump (2/24/2016). He sure does. No kidding. There are supporters of Trumps socialist platform right here still claiming that trump wants to deport 20 million illegals. Trump said, "deport them all." Socialist retards who can't wrap their heads around logistics went nuts at thoughts of armed-troops going door-to-door Nazi-style on American soil eliminating the rights of American citizens looking for non-citizens. None of the retards can add or subtract. They think it is cool that Trump wants to build a wall, and deport 20 million, all the while "Sanctuary-Cities" (that are supported by Trump) are still in-place. What a bunch of idiots. As long as there are sanctuary-cities, there will be illegals flocking here, and finding jobs, and not being deported. Trump isn't going to deport 20 million illegals. Or 10 million. Or 1 million. I doubt he'll deport a single one. Recent quotes from Trump on immigration. "I'm flexible". "I'm changing". It's amazing that people believe his impossible policy on illegals. On immigration, Trump is either an idiot and believes his plan is plausible. Or, Trump is a liar and never intended to enact his ridiculous plan. I think the latter is probably true. |
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Posted: 3/5/2016 3:35:22 PM EDT
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You are right Beck isn't crazy. His judgment here is spot-on. Trump is a socialist. "Single payer" is socialism. The Obama administration did not wake people up enough... Because Obama said, "I will use the government to fix problems..." And Trump is saying the same thing. Trump is the worst kind of socialist. He wants to make government bigger, and more expensive. But he always promises that some other boogeyman will pay for it. That is the worst kind of socialist. Because the taxpayer always ends up footing the bill. Trump is the same as Obama... They both ran on the big government platform, "make the government pay for it..." Trump has been a candidate since 1988. Trump has been running for President since 1988 For Trump and supporters of his liberal agenda and socialist platform to claim that Trump has not grasped it yet is absolutely ridiculous... Trump has spent a lot of time running for office. If he does not grasp it yet, I would not call him "intelligent." Quote HistoryQuoted:
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And calling Trump a socialist is just as stupid. The Obama presidency was a real eye opener for many folks including it seems, Trump. Trump is a socialist. "Single payer" is socialism. The Obama administration did not wake people up enough... Because Obama said, "I will use the government to fix problems..." And Trump is saying the same thing. Trump is the worst kind of socialist. He wants to make government bigger, and more expensive. But he always promises that some other boogeyman will pay for it. That is the worst kind of socialist. Because the taxpayer always ends up footing the bill. Trump is the same as Obama... They both ran on the big government platform, "make the government pay for it..." Quoted:
Does Trump have a clear understating of how government operate? Probably not as he hasn't spent his life in public office. Is he smart enough to run the country until he gets up to speed? Hell yes! Trump is many things but he is no dummy. Trump has been a candidate since 1988. Trump has been running for President since 1988 For Trump and supporters of his liberal agenda and socialist platform to claim that Trump has not grasped it yet is absolutely ridiculous... Trump has spent a lot of time running for office. If he does not grasp it yet, I would not call him "intelligent." I like having conversations and reading others points of view. That's what makes GD great. But it's not much fun when guys like you call people names because they don't agree. The stuff you wrote are your feeling and not based on actual facts. Have fun bud. 
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I like having conversations and reading others points of view. That's what makes GD great. But it's not much fun when guys like call people names because they don't agree. The stuff you wrote are your feeling and not based on actual facts. Have fun bud. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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And calling Trump a socialist is just as stupid. The Obama presidency was a real eye opener for many folks including it seems, Trump. Trump is a socialist. "Single payer" is socialism. The Obama administration did not wake people up enough... Because Obama said, "I will use the government to fix problems..." And Trump is saying the same thing. Trump is the worst kind of socialist. He wants to make government bigger, and more expensive. But he always promises that some other boogeyman will pay for it. That is the worst kind of socialist. Because the taxpayer always ends up footing the bill. Trump is the same as Obama... They both ran on the big government platform, "make the government pay for it..." Quoted:
Does Trump have a clear understating of how government operate? Probably not as he hasn't spent his life in public office. Is he smart enough to run the country until he gets up to speed? Hell yes! Trump is many things but he is no dummy. Trump has been a candidate since 1988. Trump has been running for President since 1988 For Trump and supporters of his liberal agenda and socialist platform to claim that Trump has not grasped it yet is absolutely ridiculous... Trump has spent a lot of time running for office. If he does not grasp it yet, I would not call him "intelligent." I like having conversations and reading others points of view. That's what makes GD great. But it's not much fun when guys like call people names because they don't agree. The stuff you wrote are your feeling and not based on actual facts. Have fun bud. I see zero name calling. You don't like the fact that you're wrong.
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Posted: 3/5/2016 3:41:04 PM EDT
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Trump isn't going to deport 20 million illegals. Or 10 million. Or 1 million. I doubt he'll deport a single one. Recent quotes from Trump on immigration. "I'm flexible". "I'm changing". It's amazing that people believe his impossible policy on illegals. On immigration, Trump is either an idiot and believes his plan is plausible. Or, Trump is a liar and never intended to enact his ridiculous plan. I think the latter is probably true. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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But in Trump's defense, many can't comprehend more than simple platitudes like "Make America Great Again" or "Build The Wall". Democrats have relied on that for years. "I love the poorly educated!" - Trump (2/24/2016). He sure does. No kidding. There are supporters of Trumps socialist platform right here still claiming that trump wants to deport 20 million illegals. Trump said, "deport them all." Socialist retards who can't wrap their heads around logistics went nuts at thoughts of armed-troops going door-to-door Nazi-style on American soil eliminating the rights of American citizens looking for non-citizens. None of the retards can add or subtract. They think it is cool that Trump wants to build a wall, and deport 20 million, all the while "Sanctuary-Cities" (that are supported by Trump) are still in-place. What a bunch of idiots. As long as there are sanctuary-cities, there will be illegals flocking here, and finding jobs, and not being deported. Trump isn't going to deport 20 million illegals. Or 10 million. Or 1 million. I doubt he'll deport a single one. Recent quotes from Trump on immigration. "I'm flexible". "I'm changing". It's amazing that people believe his impossible policy on illegals. On immigration, Trump is either an idiot and believes his plan is plausible. Or, Trump is a liar and never intended to enact his ridiculous plan. I think the latter is probably true. See I didn't know this. All I have heard him say was he would negotiate the height of the wall and allowing high skilled foreign workers to stay in the US. Could you post a link so I can read about his flip flop? |
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But in Trump's defense, many can't comprehend more than simple platitudes like "Make America Great Again" or "Build The Wall". Democrats have relied on that for years. "I love the poorly educated!" - Trump (2/24/2016). He sure does. No kidding. There are supporters of Trumps socialist platform right here still claiming that trump wants to deport 20 million illegals. Trump said, "deport them all." Socialist retards who can't wrap their heads around logistics went nuts at thoughts of armed-troops going door-to-door Nazi-style on American soil eliminating the rights of American citizens looking for non-citizens. None of the retards can add or subtract. They think it is cool that Trump wants to build a wall, and deport 20 million, all the while "Sanctuary-Cities" (that are supported by Trump) are still in-place. What a bunch of idiots. As long as there are sanctuary-cities, there will be illegals flocking here, and finding jobs, and not being deported. Trump isn't going to deport 20 million illegals. Or 10 million. Or 1 million. I doubt he'll deport a single one. Recent quotes from Trump on immigration. "I'm flexible". "I'm changing". It's amazing that people believe his impossible policy on illegals. On immigration, Trump is either an idiot and believes his plan is plausible. Or, Trump is a liar and never intended to enact his ridiculous plan. I think the latter is probably true. See I didn't know this. All I have heard him say was he would negotiate the height of the wall and allowing high skilled foreign workers to stay in the US. Could you post a link so I can read about his flip flop? You'd find out really fast if he released that off the record recording that he acknowledged existed at the debate, but just like releasing his taxes he's pretending he doesn't know how things actually work. |
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Posted: 3/5/2016 3:53:14 PM EDT
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I see zero name calling. You don't like the fact that you're wrong.Trump said, "deport them all." Socialist retards who can't wrap their heads around logistics went nuts at thoughts of armed-troops going door-to-door Nazi-style on American soil eliminating the rights of American citizens looking for non-citizens. None of the retards can add or subtract. They think it is cool that Trump wants to build a wall, and deport 20 million, all the while "Sanctuary-Cities" (that are supported by Trump) are still in-place. What a bunch of idiots. As long as there are sanctuary-cities, there will be illegals flocking here, and finding jobs, and not being deported.. Juni4ling |
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But in Trump's defense, many can't comprehend more than simple platitudes like "Make America Great Again" or "Build The Wall". Democrats have relied on that for years. "I love the poorly educated!" - Trump (2/24/2016). He sure does. No kidding. There are supporters of Trumps socialist platform right here still claiming that trump wants to deport 20 million illegals. Trump said, "deport them all." Socialist retards who can't wrap their heads around logistics went nuts at thoughts of armed-troops going door-to-door Nazi-style on American soil eliminating the rights of American citizens looking for non-citizens. None of the retards can add or subtract. They think it is cool that Trump wants to build a wall, and deport 20 million, all the while "Sanctuary-Cities" (that are supported by Trump) are still in-place. What a bunch of idiots. As long as there are sanctuary-cities, there will be illegals flocking here, and finding jobs, and not being deported. Trump isn't going to deport 20 million illegals. Or 10 million. Or 1 million. I doubt he'll deport a single one. Recent quotes from Trump on immigration. "I'm flexible". "I'm changing". It's amazing that people believe his impossible policy on illegals. On immigration, Trump is either an idiot and believes his plan is plausible. Or, Trump is a liar and never intended to enact his ridiculous plan. I think the latter is probably true. See I didn't know this. All I have heard him say was he would negotiate the height of the wall and allowing high skilled foreign workers to stay in the US. Could you post a link so I can read about his flip flop? You'd find out really fast if he released that off the record recording that he acknowledged existed at the debate, but just like releasing his taxes he's pretending he doesn't know how things actually work. How do you know what's in the off the record recording? Fox News and Cruz were both horrible for planting that in folks minds. |
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