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Posted: 3/15/2016 10:18:48 PM EDT
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As Davy once said: You may all go to Hell, and I will go to Texas! 
Edit: Damn...Tennesseans think alike. We can carpool / caravan it. I'll bring Davy Crockett's china/dinnerware. It's all my family has left of his, other than being proud to be distant kin. |
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Posted: 3/15/2016 10:20:54 PM EDT
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I'm heading to Idaho if they pull the plug. I've always wanted to do more elk hunting.
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Posted: 3/15/2016 10:20:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There have been several modern secessions that were relatively bloodless. Take a look at all the territory the British gave up post WW II, look at eastern Europe..... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Agreed. I for one can't wait to see dead children and foreign militaries on our soil. Did the conversation suddenly shift to abortion and immigration?  Secession means war. More precisely a civil war. Historically, countrymen show no mercy to other country men. If we had a civil war I'd expect mass terrorist attacks and UN peace keepers in our country. Those are a pretty much promised outcome. I don't believe we are at the stage to have to suffer through death and war to bring our country back. That's just me though. There have been several modern secessions that were relatively bloodless. Take a look at all the territory the British gave up post WW II, look at eastern Europe..... The uprising in the Ukraine is going awesome. The troubles in Ireland seemed like a swell time aswell. |
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Posted: 3/15/2016 10:21:04 PM EDT
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I am kin to Davy Crockett. Texas, should it become the Republic of Texas again, is the only place I would consider moving. I'd miss Tennessee dearly, but Tennessee cannot possibly survive as an independent nation. Texas can. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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https://www.crossed-flag-pins.com/animated-flag-gif/gifs/Texas_240-animated-flag-gifs.gif I'll stick with TX! I am kin to Davy Crockett. Texas, should it become the Republic of Texas again, is the only place I would consider moving. I'd miss Tennessee dearly, but Tennessee cannot possibly survive as an independent nation. Texas can. Texas will welcome Tennesseans once more, we'll need some help driving out the tards in Austin and Houston. |
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Posted: 3/15/2016 10:21:41 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/15/2016 10:23:32 PM EDT
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Texas will welcome Tennesseans once more, we'll need some help driving out the tards in Austin and Houston. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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https://www.crossed-flag-pins.com/animated-flag-gif/gifs/Texas_240-animated-flag-gifs.gif I'll stick with TX! I am kin to Davy Crockett. Texas, should it become the Republic of Texas again, is the only place I would consider moving. I'd miss Tennessee dearly, but Tennessee cannot possibly survive as an independent nation. Texas can. Texas will welcome Tennesseans once more, we'll need some help driving out the tards in Austin and Houston. My idea of "keeping it weird" is owning several roller delayed blowback firearms. I'm even willing to call anything with meat, chili peppers, and beans "meat sauce" or "meat soup", so long as no one prohibits me from eating it. |
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Posted: 3/15/2016 10:26:17 PM EDT
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We can carpool / caravan it. I'll bring Davy Crockett's china/dinnerware. It's all my family has left of his, other than being proud to be distant kin. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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As Davy once said: You may all go to Hell, and I will go to Texas!
Edit: Damn...Tennesseans think alike. We can carpool / caravan it. I'll bring Davy Crockett's china/dinnerware. It's all my family has left of his, other than being proud to be distant kin. Road trip.
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Posted: 3/15/2016 10:28:27 PM EDT
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This is no longer really a north vs. south thing. Some states are more consolidated than others, but pretty much any major city will have a majority of voters go democrat, regardless of state. This basically ensures that an actual fractured national identity wouldn't be solvable with a simple line of demarcation. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Secession is the answer. This time WV defects south. This is no longer really a north vs. south thing. Some states are more consolidated than others, but pretty much any major city will have a majority of voters go democrat, regardless of state. This basically ensures that an actual fractured national identity wouldn't be solvable with a simple line of demarcation. This is true. I've lived in five states for some good chunks of time. It's amazing how diverse the populations are in the different locales, even sometimes from neighboring city to city. This was the beauty of the System as Originally intended. The Fed is strictly limited and the States were to choose their own destiny and how they ran things themselves. The States were the experiments, not the USA. |
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Posted: 3/15/2016 10:30:21 PM EDT
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America is in a civil war, a Cold War but a war just the same You know, I've been a student of history....and any officer in the Army can tell you about the "big blue book" (required Military History text)....but truth be told, I'm not exactly sure how long the "build up" or Cold War existed before the first actual shots were fired in the Civil War. Interesting. I'd be curious to know. |
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Posted: 3/15/2016 10:30:49 PM EDT
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Road trip.
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As Davy once said: You may all go to Hell, and I will go to Texas!
Edit: Damn...Tennesseans think alike. We can carpool / caravan it. I'll bring Davy Crockett's china/dinnerware. It's all my family has left of his, other than being proud to be distant kin. Road trip.
Texas, if bolstered by a fresh influx of Tennesseans, would be rather unstoppable. If we set aside our usual differences (what can be put into something named 'chili' and what meat to make 'bbq' out of), our two states are inseparably tied together through history and kindred souls. Damned Arkansas for standing between us.  That state is like the fucking control rods in a nuclear reactor.
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Posted: 3/15/2016 10:32:58 PM EDT
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More people every day are coming to this conclusion. Love him, hate him, whatever....the support Trump is getting is from people who have said, "Fuck it, it's NOT WORKING anymore". That's the first step..... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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America is in a civil war, a Cold War but a war just the same More people every day are coming to this conclusion. Love him, hate him, whatever....the support Trump is getting is from people who have said, "Fuck it, it's NOT WORKING anymore". That's the first step..... No, a lot of the support is from people who have the same intellectual quotient as people who supported "hope and change" Trump is a huckster and a liar. I really don't care however because he's exposing the establishment players and it really doesn't matter who is sitting in the "Captains chair" of the Titanic. A king or court Jester.....the ship is going down. |
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Posted: 3/15/2016 10:37:59 PM EDT
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My idea of "keeping it weird" is owning several roller delayed blowback firearms. I'm even willing to call anything with meat, chili peppers, and beans "meat sauce" or "meat soup", so long as no one prohibits me from eating it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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https://www.crossed-flag-pins.com/animated-flag-gif/gifs/Texas_240-animated-flag-gifs.gif I'll stick with TX! I am kin to Davy Crockett. Texas, should it become the Republic of Texas again, is the only place I would consider moving. I'd miss Tennessee dearly, but Tennessee cannot possibly survive as an independent nation. Texas can. Texas will welcome Tennesseans once more, we'll need some help driving out the tards in Austin and Houston. My idea of "keeping it weird" is owning several roller delayed blowback firearms. I'm even willing to call anything with meat, chili peppers, and beans "meat sauce" or "meat soup", so long as no one prohibits me from eating it. You'll be just fine here then 
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Posted: 3/15/2016 10:45:32 PM EDT
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https://www.crossed-flag-pins.com/animated-flag-gif/gifs/Texas_240-animated-flag-gifs.gif I'll stick with TX! Do not worry as we will be hear for your pity party once Texas goes the way of so many other states that are controlled by their liberal cities. |
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Posted: 3/15/2016 10:46:02 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/15/2016 10:51:32 PM EDT
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Road trip.
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As Davy once said: You may all go to Hell, and I will go to Texas!
Edit: Damn...Tennesseans think alike. We can carpool / caravan it. I'll bring Davy Crockett's china/dinnerware. It's all my family has left of his, other than being proud to be distant kin. Road trip.
I call shotgun! Dibs! |
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Posted: 3/15/2016 10:52:48 PM EDT
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This is an interesting thread. And for all the guys down south, don't think that just because a person is from a northern state means that he backs the status quo. The lines of division would be very different this time around, I think.
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Posted: 3/15/2016 10:57:51 PM EDT
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Very useful for some of us who are tired of having our lives run by New York, California and Illinois. When was the last time you bought a fucking gas can? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Secession is the answer. Very useful for the people in charge. Very useful for some of us who are tired of having our lives run by New York, California and Illinois. When was the last time you bought a fucking gas can? Just an FYI - Illinois is tired of being run by Chicago. |
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Posted: 3/15/2016 11:00:31 PM EDT
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This country could be split 7 ways, literally.
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Posted: 3/15/2016 11:03:08 PM EDT
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First post does not provide a discussion on what the OP is thinking.
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Posted: 3/15/2016 11:05:53 PM EDT
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Help our friends in Illinois by removing the malignant tumor known as "Chicago". Any city or town that likes to be known as "weird" or "progressive" gets walled off and put under siege. You will be greeted as a hero, and will be rewarded with 12 lb pizza pies and 212 lb women. |
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Posted: 3/15/2016 11:13:41 PM EDT
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You will be greeted as a hero, and will be rewarded with 12 lb pizza pies and 212 lb women. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Help our friends in Illinois by removing the malignant tumor known as "Chicago". Any city or town that likes to be known as "weird" or "progressive" gets walled off and put under siege. You will be greeted as a hero, and will be rewarded with 12 lb pizza pies and 212 lb women. The pizza sounds good, but can we take a Solomon approach to the women? |
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Posted: 3/16/2016 12:11:29 AM EDT
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Secession is the answer. Naw, man - Virtual States are the answer. 
Everyone still shares the same physical territory, but is only subject to the laws which agree with his/her particular beliefs. If you hold liberal beliefs, you get taxed for just about everything - socialized medicine, welfare, environmental and economic justice, free college education, etc., etc. If you hold conservative beliefs, you get taxed for paving our roads and defending our borders - and not much of anything else. If you hold liberal beliefs, uttering hate-speech or shooting a home invader results in felony prison time. If you hold conservative beliefs, exercising your 1st or 2nd amendment rights is merely a cause for celebration. If you hold liberal beliefs, your credit card gets billed $9 for a Quarter-Pounder With Cheese, because that's what it costs when you include a "fair working wage" for every McDonald's employee who touches your burger. If you hold conservative beliefs, your credit card gets billed $3.95 for a Quarter-Pounder With Cheese, because that's what it costs when every McDonald's employee is discouraged from regarding their job as anything other than a stepping stone to a higher-paying job. The idea of forging governmental consensus - and forcing every citizen to comply with that consensus - is a throwback to the days when we had no practical means to accommodate dissenting beliefs. Technology is changing all of that. 
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Posted: 3/16/2016 12:13:50 AM EDT
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Agreed. I for one can't wait to see dead children and foreign militaries on our soil. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Secession is the answer. I for one can't wait to see dead children and foreign militaries on our soil. Either way America is done. One route is more painful and longer lasting than the other. |
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Posted: 3/16/2016 12:17:51 AM EDT
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The Haves and the Takes
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Posted: 3/16/2016 12:19:38 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/16/2016 12:26:16 AM EDT
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This shit isn't that serious! Not to me anyway!  Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Secession is the answer. Very useful for the people in charge. Very useful for some of us who are tired of having our lives run by New York, California and Illinois. When was the last time you bought a fucking gas can? Sorry, I quoted the wrong person. My bad. No offense intended. Correcting. This shit isn't that serious! Not to me anyway! What's that supposed to mean? Reported! 
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Posted: 3/16/2016 12:29:08 AM EDT
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Secession more ammo is the answer. Fixed. |
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Posted: 3/16/2016 12:30:15 AM EDT
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If everyone would just move to their respective states it would be ok..... Just designate red and blue states. Give a tax break for 5 years for moving costs and then see where it lays. Let the blue states become cesspools and red states flourish with defensible state borders to keep out the riff raff. 
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Posted: 3/16/2016 12:39:11 AM EDT
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America is in a civil war, a Cold War but a war just the same Yep. Psywar is still war by other means. No telling if/when it would go hot such as terrible economic situations, but the direction we are heading in is not something to help muster any confidence. |
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Posted: 3/16/2016 12:54:32 AM EDT
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Ever notice how ignoring certain libtard fucks just makes the thread SO MUCH better to read? 
Were they in here? Greasemonkey makes everything better, even the quotes. |
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Posted: 3/16/2016 1:24:25 AM EDT
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Were they in here? Greasemonkey makes everything better, even the quotes. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Ever notice how ignoring certain libtard, fucks just makes the thread SO MUCH better to read?
Were they in here? Greasemonkey makes everything better, even the quotes. Like mr_smiley |
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Posted: 3/16/2016 1:27:02 AM EDT
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Naw, man - Virtual States are the answer.
Everyone still shares the same physical territory, but is only subject to the laws which agree with his/her particular beliefs. If you hold liberal beliefs, you get taxed for just about everything - socialized medicine, welfare, environmental and economic justice, free college education, etc., etc. If you hold conservative beliefs, you get taxed for paving our roads and defending our borders - and not much of anything else. If you hold liberal beliefs, uttering hate-speech or shooting a home invader results in felony prison time. If you hold conservative beliefs, exercising your 1st or 2nd amendment rights is merely a cause for celebration. If you hold liberal beliefs, your credit card gets billed $9 for a Quarter-Pounder With Cheese, because that's what it costs when you include a "fair working wage" for every McDonald's employee who touches your burger. If you hold conservative beliefs, your credit card gets billed $3.95 for a Quarter-Pounder With Cheese, because that's what it costs when every McDonald's employee is discouraged from regarding their job as anything other than a stepping stone to a higher-paying job. The idea of forging governmental consensus - and forcing every citizen to comply with that consensus - is a throwback to the days when we had no practical means to accommodate dissenting beliefs. Technology is changing all of that. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Secession is the answer. Naw, man - Virtual States are the answer.
Everyone still shares the same physical territory, but is only subject to the laws which agree with his/her particular beliefs. If you hold liberal beliefs, you get taxed for just about everything - socialized medicine, welfare, environmental and economic justice, free college education, etc., etc. If you hold conservative beliefs, you get taxed for paving our roads and defending our borders - and not much of anything else. If you hold liberal beliefs, uttering hate-speech or shooting a home invader results in felony prison time. If you hold conservative beliefs, exercising your 1st or 2nd amendment rights is merely a cause for celebration. If you hold liberal beliefs, your credit card gets billed $9 for a Quarter-Pounder With Cheese, because that's what it costs when you include a "fair working wage" for every McDonald's employee who touches your burger. If you hold conservative beliefs, your credit card gets billed $3.95 for a Quarter-Pounder With Cheese, because that's what it costs when every McDonald's employee is discouraged from regarding their job as anything other than a stepping stone to a higher-paying job. The idea of forging governmental consensus - and forcing every citizen to comply with that consensus - is a throwback to the days when we had no practical means to accommodate dissenting beliefs. Technology is changing all of that. That would be AWESOME. Too bad accountability is racist. But yes the red states would have ultra low crime and become the seats of power. While blue states would soon devolve into tribal warfare and lord of the flies. |
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Posted: 3/16/2016 8:51:57 AM EDT
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Last night was a real nail biter for me. Never in my life have I so closely watched a presidential primary like I have this one. Got pretty bummed out knowing that fla and ohio were the big ones to win, just to see them disagree. HOWEVER..... after seeing this little graphic I'm much happier. I don't want us to go into a brokered convention, and these numbers suggest, even despite ohios decision, that the numbers look pretty solid for our front runner. I like trump, but if it were any of the others in his place I'd still want to see us solidly behind them, and these numbers show we are for the most part. Whether its cruz, rubio, kaisch or trump, supporting the frontrunner [that voters have chosen] is the only way we can win this damn thing. Im tired of losing to those liberal faggots!
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Posted: 3/16/2016 9:02:34 AM EDT
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Secession is the answer. No, the answer is to re-remove the franchise from wards of state. How this error was ever allowed to pass is beyond me. Fix this, and many of the other problems will also be fixable. |
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Posted: 3/16/2016 9:04:43 AM EDT
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FL and OH are THE 2 states that matter?
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Posted: 3/16/2016 9:16:47 AM EDT
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FL and OH are THE 2 states that matter? Last night they did. Fla has 99 deligates, ohio has 66, winner takes all. |
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Posted: 3/16/2016 9:21:15 AM EDT
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Secession is the answer. No it isn't. Christ, did your mother have any children that lived? |
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Posted: 3/16/2016 10:03:46 AM EDT
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Yeah.... we're still going to need more than your word and your pretty state. Had WV made the right decision last time around things might have ended differently. Unfortunately, that didn't happen. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This time WV defects south. You're going to have to pacify DC to prove your loyalty. I'm with Undefined on this one... gonna have to earn it. We supply their electricity while also sending all of the emissions down wind to them, and we dump stuff in their water supply constantly  . CSX and other train companies in the area send their train cars to us to remove the graffiti since the chemical is banned in MD and I think VA. Maybe we are somewhat to blame for the weird in DC
Oh and our other three redeeming qualities, we have a beautiful state, lots of natural resources and we have constitutional carry. Yeah.... we're still going to need more than your word and your pretty state. Had WV made the right decision last time around things might have ended differently. Unfortunately, that didn't happen. If Lee hadn't lost the battles of Western Virginia early in the war, The Western part of Virginia would never had been able to break away. |
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Posted: 3/17/2016 4:12:47 PM EDT
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Even the two states that make the difference (Fla, Ohio) are split 
That's sort of like saying the participants in a mugging are split. No shit. Of course they are. Why should we care? The issues here are pretty simple. We work, and we have shit. The opposition's leadership wants to make a job out of promising varying amounts of our shit - taken by threat of violence - to their voters, who in turn want to not work or treat work as optional, but still have all the shit we have. The amount of shit they want to take is becoming increasingly intolerable. No lasting peace can come from that. All this talk about countrymen being vicious to each other - fuck that, a lot of these people aren't my "countrymen". |
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Posted: 3/17/2016 4:23:24 PM EDT
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Foreign militaries have capitals...full of politicians....most of whom don't much like the idea of glowing in the dark for the next 5000 years..... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Secession is the answer. I for one can't wait to see dead children and foreign militaries on our soil. Foreign militaries have capitals...full of politicians....most of whom don't much like the idea of glowing in the dark for the next 5000 years..... Reality 
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Posted: 3/17/2016 4:25:13 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/17/2016 4:31:19 PM EDT
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There have been several modern secessions that were relatively bloodless. Take a look at all the territory the British gave up post WW II, look at eastern Europe.....If Scotlands referendum had gone the other way, was the rest of the UK going to war? Not likely..... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Secession is the answer. I for one can't wait to see dead children and foreign militaries on our soil. Did the conversation suddenly shift to abortion and immigration?
Secession means war. More precisely a civil war. Historically, countrymen show no mercy to other country men. If we had a civil war I'd expect mass terrorist attacks and UN peace keepers in our country. Those are a pretty much promised outcome. I don't believe we are at the stage to have to suffer through death and war to bring our country back. That's just me though. There have been several modern secessions that were relatively bloodless. Take a look at all the territory the British gave up post WW II, look at eastern Europe.....If Scotlands referendum had gone the other way, was the rest of the UK going to war? Not likely..... Take a look at Czechoslovakia, which is now Slovakia (south) and the Czech Republic (north). There is some small animosity on both sides, but it was peaceful. They still get along, and they function as business and trade partners. If they can do it, we can do it. It does not have to come to violence. |
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Posted: 3/17/2016 4:36:42 PM EDT
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Out of chaos...order
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