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Posted: 3/23/2016 8:18:00 PM EDT
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Whoops.
I bet they won't do that again.... Well, yeah, they probably will. |
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Posted: 3/23/2016 8:24:09 PM EDT
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I don't understand the problem. They investigated, failed to find a credible threat and let him go.
What were they supposed to do? Consult their crystal ball and discover he would later be involved in a terrorist plot? |
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Posted: 3/23/2016 8:27:42 PM EDT
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That thread from yesterday where one of our counter terror guys said the Belgians are like children when it comes to the threat of Islam was right on the money.
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Posted: 3/23/2016 8:29:05 PM EDT
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What a fuck a clown show Europe is.
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Posted: 3/23/2016 8:30:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't understand the problem. They investigated, failed to find a credible threat and let him go. What were they supposed to do? Consult their crystal ball and discover he would later be involved in a terrorist plot?  |
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Posted: 3/23/2016 8:31:20 PM EDT
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They probably didn't give him enough pamphlets describing how to have sex with the local women.
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Posted: 3/23/2016 8:31:57 PM EDT
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If a Muslim warns you that a Muslim "immigrant" is a bad guy, you should take their advice.
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I don't understand the problem. They investigated, failed to find a credible threat and let him go. What were they supposed to do? Consult their crystal ball and discover he would later be involved in a terrorist plot?
OK. So, again, I ask, what were they supposed to do? |
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Posted: 3/23/2016 8:33:33 PM EDT
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I don't understand the problem. They investigated, failed to find a credible threat and let him go. What were they supposed to do? Consult their crystal ball and discover he would later be involved in a terrorist plot? Doncha remember when the fucking Russians warned us about the Boston Bombers? But nooooo, cuz of "well uh uh uh dey dinnit do nuffins bad" Just like the feds had tabs on the San Bernardino assholes. But noooo cuz "well uh uh uh uh dey dinnit do nuffins bad" |
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Posted: 3/23/2016 8:35:00 PM EDT
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OK. So, again, I ask, what were they supposed to do? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't understand the problem. They investigated, failed to find a credible threat and let him go. What were they supposed to do? Consult their crystal ball and discover he would later be involved in a terrorist plot?
OK. So, again, I ask, what were they supposed to do? Ummm... *ahem* "Don't come in" "Here's a ticket back to Syria?" "Go away?" |
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Posted: 3/23/2016 8:37:00 PM EDT
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Belgium is France's and Germany's Mini-Me.
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Posted: 3/23/2016 8:38:27 PM EDT
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Doncha remember when the fucking Russians warned us about the Boston Bombers? But nooooo, cuz of "well uh uh uh dey dinnit do nuffins bad" Just like the feds had tabs on the San Bernardino assholes. But noooo cuz "well uh uh uh uh dey dinnit do nuffins bad" Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't understand the problem. They investigated, failed to find a credible threat and let him go. What were they supposed to do? Consult their crystal ball and discover he would later be involved in a terrorist plot? Doncha remember when the fucking Russians warned us about the Boston Bombers? But nooooo, cuz of "well uh uh uh dey dinnit do nuffins bad" Just like the feds had tabs on the San Bernardino assholes. But noooo cuz "well uh uh uh uh dey dinnit do nuffins bad" So, like I keep asking, what were they supposed to do? They weren't tied to any terrorist orgs that any investigation could find. They weren't wanted, they weren't prisoners, they were just people. What does a government do with people who can't be proven to be a threat? Are you suggesting all we need to start locking people is some guy in another country to tell us he's "a bad guy?" Cause that's fucking silly. |
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Posted: 3/23/2016 8:39:09 PM EDT
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Belgium is France's and Germany's Mini-Me. The same far left socialists who are killing their citizens to create the ideal post-racial, post-religious society. There will come a time when we will have to abandon the idiots who can't seem to realize what they are doing is against the survival of their own culture. Sacrificing the idiots in W. Europe seems like a fair trade to eradicate liberalism and socialism forever. |
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Posted: 3/23/2016 8:39:59 PM EDT
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sort of like the Russians and the Boston Bombers.
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Posted: 3/23/2016 8:40:06 PM EDT
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They probably didn't give him enough pamphlets describing how to have sex rape the local women. FIFY |
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Posted: 3/23/2016 8:45:10 PM EDT
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That thread from yesterday where one of our counter terror guys said the Belgians are like children when it comes to the threat of Islam was right on the money. FWIW, our counter terror guys in Belgium are like fucking children too. |
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Posted: 3/23/2016 8:45:24 PM EDT
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Ummm... *ahem* "Don't come in" "Here's a ticket back to Syria?" "Go away?" Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't understand the problem. They investigated, failed to find a credible threat and let him go. What were they supposed to do? Consult their crystal ball and discover he would later be involved in a terrorist plot?
OK. So, again, I ask, what were they supposed to do? Ummm... *ahem* "Don't come in" "Here's a ticket back to Syria?" "Go away?" They didn't roll out a red carpet. They told the Netherlands they weren't terrorists, according to their investigation. |
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Posted: 3/23/2016 8:46:31 PM EDT
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Those countries are their own worst enemy! |
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Posted: 3/23/2016 8:52:38 PM EDT
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They were warned.
. " the full Haaretz report: The Belgian security services, as well as other Western intelligence agencies, had advance and precise intelligence warnings regarding the terrorist attacks in Belgium on Tuesday, Haaretz has learned. The security services knew, with a high degree of certainty, that attacks were planned in the very near future for the airport and, apparently, for the subway as well. Despite the advance warning, the intelligence and security preparedness in Brussels, where most of the European Union agencies are located, was limited in its scope and insufficient for the severity and immediacy of the alert. As far as is known, the attacks were planned by the headquarters of the Islamic State (ISIS) in Raqqa, Syria, which it has pronounced as the capital of its Islamic caliphate. The terror cell responsible for the attacks in Brussels on Tuesday was closely associated with the network behind the series of attacks in Paris last November. At this stage, it appears that both were part of the same terrorist infrastructure, connected at the top by the terrorist Salah Abdeslam, who was involved in both the preparation for the Paris attacks and its implementation. Abdeslam escaped from Paris after the November attacks, hid out in Brussels and was arrested last week by the Belgian authorities. Abdeslam's arrest was apparently the trigger for Tuesday's attacks, due to the concern in ISIS that he might give information about the planned attacks under interrogation, particularly in the light of reports that he was cooperating with his captors. The testimony of the detained terrorist, alongside other intelligence information, part of which concerned ISIS operations in Syria, should have resulted in much more stringent security preparedness in crowded public places in Brussels, along with a heightened search for the cell. |
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Posted: 3/23/2016 9:03:58 PM EDT
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I am going with we nor the Europeans just cannot do a good enough background check on these "refugee's."
So leave them in their shithole country. |
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Posted: 3/23/2016 9:07:31 PM EDT
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I am going with we nor the Europeans just cannot do a good enough background check on these "refugee's." So leave them in their shithole country. From what I've read the brothers were living in Belgium for decades. It's not like they were part of the recent flood of immigrants. |
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Posted: 3/23/2016 9:09:23 PM EDT
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Whoops. I bet they won't do that again.... Well, yeah, they probably will. Sadly, the ruling class in Brussels probably looks at this more like an interruption to their own baseball game. Perhaps a little more seriously than our dear leader but still, a major distraction to their charge towards multiculturalism. They are still very interested in the refugee issue. |
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Posted: 3/23/2016 9:13:56 PM EDT
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They're (Europe) going to have to make some serious course corrections to fix this problem they've got themselves into. And it's doubtful they'll have the backbone to do it since what is needed would be highly unpopular with liberal progressives, which they basically all are. Except some from the east.
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Posted: 3/23/2016 9:16:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What a fuck a clown show Europe is. You think we're much better ? |
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Posted: 3/23/2016 9:17:54 PM EDT
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I don't understand the problem. They investigated, failed to find a credible threat and let him go. What were they supposed to do? Consult their crystal ball and discover he would later be involved in a terrorist plot? Not a problem till he kills a bunch of people. |
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Posted: 3/23/2016 9:18:13 PM EDT
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Europe needs to wake up.
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Posted: 3/23/2016 9:18:36 PM EDT
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OK. So, again, I ask, what were they supposed to do? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't understand the problem. They investigated, failed to find a credible threat and let him go. What were they supposed to do? Consult their crystal ball and discover he would later be involved in a terrorist plot?
OK. So, again, I ask, what were they supposed to do? If they had been smart a deep hole and a bullet. |
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Posted: 3/23/2016 9:27:03 PM EDT
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If a Muslim warns you that a Muslim "immigrant" is a bad guy, you should take their advice.
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I don't understand the problem. They investigated, failed to find a credible threat and let him go. What were they supposed to do? Consult their crystal ball and discover he would later be involved in a terrorist plot?
You still have to follow the law. Was there enough for a case? |
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Posted: 3/23/2016 9:28:42 PM EDT
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Brussels is fucked from what I've gleaned in the last two days
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Posted: 3/23/2016 9:32:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistorySaw the article earlier and it reads like BS. The article says a lot of stuff, but doesn't really present any detail to support very bold claims. |
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Posted: 3/23/2016 9:33:43 PM EDT
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We need
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Posted: 3/23/2016 9:35:04 PM EDT
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So, like I keep asking, what were they supposed to do? They weren't tied to any terrorist orgs that any investigation could find. They weren't wanted, they weren't prisoners, they were just people. What does a government do with people who can't be proven to be a threat? Are you suggesting all we need to start locking people is some guy in another country to tell us he's "a bad guy?" Cause that's fucking silly. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't understand the problem. They investigated, failed to find a credible threat and let him go. What were they supposed to do? Consult their crystal ball and discover he would later be involved in a terrorist plot? Doncha remember when the fucking Russians warned us about the Boston Bombers? But nooooo, cuz of "well uh uh uh dey dinnit do nuffins bad" Just like the feds had tabs on the San Bernardino assholes. But noooo cuz "well uh uh uh uh dey dinnit do nuffins bad" So, like I keep asking, what were they supposed to do? They weren't tied to any terrorist orgs that any investigation could find. They weren't wanted, they weren't prisoners, they were just people. What does a government do with people who can't be proven to be a threat? Are you suggesting all we need to start locking people is some guy in another country to tell us he's "a bad guy?" Cause that's fucking silly. I know what I would do.........but I probably would get banned. |
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Posted: 3/23/2016 9:35:31 PM EDT
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Turkey sent a terrorist to Europe? Well color me surprised...
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Posted: 3/23/2016 9:38:16 PM EDT
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So, like I keep asking, what were they supposed to do? They weren't tied to any terrorist orgs that any investigation could find. They weren't wanted, they weren't prisoners, they were just people. What does a government do with people who can't be proven to be a threat? Are you suggesting all we need to start locking people is some guy in another country to tell us he's "a bad guy?" Cause that's fucking silly. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't understand the problem. They investigated, failed to find a credible threat and let him go. What were they supposed to do? Consult their crystal ball and discover he would later be involved in a terrorist plot? Doncha remember when the fucking Russians warned us about the Boston Bombers? But nooooo, cuz of "well uh uh uh dey dinnit do nuffins bad" Just like the feds had tabs on the San Bernardino assholes. But noooo cuz "well uh uh uh uh dey dinnit do nuffins bad" So, like I keep asking, what were they supposed to do? They weren't tied to any terrorist orgs that any investigation could find. They weren't wanted, they weren't prisoners, they were just people. What does a government do with people who can't be proven to be a threat? Are you suggesting all we need to start locking people is some guy in another country to tell us he's "a bad guy?" Cause that's fucking silly. If one is not a citizen of a country, they can be deported for any reason, even suspicion. If we are suspicious of a foreign national we can and should simply deport them. |
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Posted: 3/23/2016 9:42:54 PM EDT
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Don't know the details of the case.
If he was in custody (and you want to keep him in custody) here : -Needs to be (suported by evidence) suspected of a crime. -Belgium would need to ask for his exradition (something they did not do as far as i know) and you could hold him until you hand him over. |
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Posted: 3/23/2016 9:50:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: OK. So, again, I ask, what were they supposed to do? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I don't understand the problem. They investigated, failed to find a credible threat and let him go. What were they supposed to do? Consult their crystal ball and discover he would later be involved in a terrorist plot? OK. So, again, I ask, what were they supposed to do? Better yet, stop letting them into your country in the first place. After you have been warned he may be a threat hold him for whatever time is legal while you dig through his past and contact all his current contacts. Then follow him or maybe drop a line to a CI that he is a rat and see what happens. Be creative. Just don't shrug your shoulders and go dunno he seems like an okay guy. That is how you get Boston, Madrid, Paris, Brussels, and 9-11. We know the profile of these assholes so maybe put pressure on them. |
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Posted: 3/23/2016 9:52:07 PM EDT
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OK. So, again, I ask, what were they supposed to do? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't understand the problem. They investigated, failed to find a credible threat and let him go. What were they supposed to do? Consult their crystal ball and discover he would later be involved in a terrorist plot?
OK. So, again, I ask, what were they supposed to do? If you say you can't find your own asshole does that mean you don't have one? Or just suck really bad at finding it? |
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Posted: 3/23/2016 9:58:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: OK. So, again, I ask, what were they supposed to do? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I don't understand the problem. They investigated, failed to find a credible threat and let him go. What were they supposed to do? Consult their crystal ball and discover he would later be involved in a terrorist plot? OK. So, again, I ask, what were they supposed to do? |
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Posted: 3/23/2016 9:58:54 PM EDT
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I'm getting the feeling that this is going to be the future as the numbers swell in Europe, Israel being targeted, Iran having the bomb soon, North Korea and its fuck tard dictator, and the US possibly having Hillary. Either way, I think we will see WW3 come out of this. And that is terrifying.
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Posted: 3/23/2016 10:00:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You still have to follow the law. Was there enough for a case? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I don't understand the problem. They investigated, failed to find a credible threat and let him go. What were they supposed to do? Consult their crystal ball and discover he would later be involved in a terrorist plot? You still have to follow the law. Was there enough for a case? |
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Posted: 3/23/2016 10:02:41 PM EDT
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From what I've read the brothers were living in Belgium for decades. It's not like they were part of the recent flood of immigrants. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I am going with we nor the Europeans just cannot do a good enough background check on these "refugee's." So leave them in their shithole country. From what I've read the brothers were living in Belgium for decades. It's not like they were part of the recent flood of immigrants. If they're not citizens, deport. This isn't a difficult concept. |
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Posted: 3/23/2016 10:11:23 PM EDT
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If one is not a citizen of a country, they can be deported for any reason, even suspicion. If we are suspicious of a foreign national we can and should simply deport them. Ding! We have a winner. Institute this policy and see how quickly they all fall in line. |
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Posted: 3/23/2016 10:13:13 PM EDT
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I'm getting the feeling that this is going to be the future as the numbers swell in Europe, Israel being targeted, Iran having the bomb soon, North Korea and its fuck tard dictator, and the US possibly having Hillary. Either way, I think we will see WW3 come out of this. And that is terrifying.
I think we'd wrap up WW3 here in the CONUS pretty quick if that is going to be it. We'd mow down Islamburg and Mohammedville in the blink of an eye and after Hitlary is impeached, VP shotgun Joe would start the roundup post haste. |
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Posted: 3/23/2016 10:15:34 PM EDT
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Are they following the "law" like the current administration here is following the law with regard to immigration? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't understand the problem. They investigated, failed to find a credible threat and let him go. What were they supposed to do? Consult their crystal ball and discover he would later be involved in a terrorist plot?
You still have to follow the law. Was there enough for a case? That someone, somewhere in a world of seven billion people, isn't adhering to the law isn't justification to do the same. |
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Posted: 3/23/2016 10:20:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So, like I keep asking, what were they supposed to do? They weren't tied to any terrorist orgs that any investigation could find. They weren't wanted, they weren't prisoners, they were just people. What does a government do with people who can't be proven to be a threat? Are you suggesting all we need to start locking people is some guy in another country to tell us he's "a bad guy?" Cause that's fucking silly. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I don't understand the problem. They investigated, failed to find a credible threat and let him go. What were they supposed to do? Consult their crystal ball and discover he would later be involved in a terrorist plot? Doncha remember when the fucking Russians warned us about the Boston Bombers? But nooooo, cuz of "well uh uh uh dey dinnit do nuffins bad" Just like the feds had tabs on the San Bernardino assholes. But noooo cuz "well uh uh uh uh dey dinnit do nuffins bad" So, like I keep asking, what were they supposed to do? They weren't tied to any terrorist orgs that any investigation could find. They weren't wanted, they weren't prisoners, they were just people. What does a government do with people who can't be proven to be a threat? Are you suggesting all we need to start locking people is some guy in another country to tell us he's "a bad guy?" Cause that's fucking silly. Is that you Jimmy? It's not just another country in this case, it's Turkey, the country sending them to your's that has nothing to gain or lose by informing you that they are dangerous. Do you remember the cuban boat lift |
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Posted: 3/23/2016 10:38:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryHave it. 
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Posted: 3/23/2016 10:47:05 PM EDT
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Is that you Jimmy? It's not just another country in this case, it's Turkey, the country sending them to your's that has nothing to gain or lose by informing you that they are dangerous. Do you remember the cuban boat lift
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I don't understand the problem. They investigated, failed to find a credible threat and let him go. What were they supposed to do? Consult their crystal ball and discover he would later be involved in a terrorist plot? Doncha remember when the fucking Russians warned us about the Boston Bombers? But nooooo, cuz of "well uh uh uh dey dinnit do nuffins bad" Just like the feds had tabs on the San Bernardino assholes. But noooo cuz "well uh uh uh uh dey dinnit do nuffins bad" So, like I keep asking, what were they supposed to do? They weren't tied to any terrorist orgs that any investigation could find. They weren't wanted, they weren't prisoners, they were just people. What does a government do with people who can't be proven to be a threat? Are you suggesting all we need to start locking people is some guy in another country to tell us he's "a bad guy?" Cause that's fucking silly. Is that you Jimmy? It's not just another country in this case, it's Turkey, the country sending them to your's that has nothing to gain or lose by informing you that they are dangerous. Do you remember the cuban boat lift
You still have to build a case. It's not enough that Turkey says he's a bad guy; he has to be bad in a way that violates codified law, and it has to be proven in court. Just because Turkey says this, doesn't mean they've said it in a way that will stand up to legal scrutiny. Turkey is overrun with refugees from Syria and in/out flux of ISIS fighters and sympathizers - are they putting a lot of detail in these deportation cases, or just happy to get them the heck out of Turkey for the time being? So far, the most likely flag in the system for these brothers was something like a parole violation by one of them. It looks like the information on the other brother passed along by Turkey concerning radicalism didn't meet the threshold for legal action in Belgium, thus the release by the Netherlands. How high up the watch list did these things place them? How did these things differentiate them, if at all, from the common 1st/2nd generation immigrant street crime? Putting everybody on the watch list and making everybody a top priority isn't productive. |
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Posted: 3/23/2016 10:48:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't understand the problem. They investigated, failed to find a credible threat and let him go. What were they supposed to do? Consult their crystal ball and discover he would later be involved in a terrorist plot? Most rational people without an agenda would probably do anything else than release him back into the public. But I guess if you want to be edgy on the internet your'e doing a good job. |
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Posted: 3/23/2016 10:50:56 PM EDT
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I don't understand the problem. They investigated, failed to find a credible threat and let him go. What were they supposed to do? Consult their crystal ball and discover he would later be involved in a terrorist plot?
OK. So, again, I ask, what were they supposed to do? Ummm... *ahem* "Don't come in" L "Here's a ticket back to Syria?" "Go away?" Weren't they Belgain citizens, born there? I think that would complicate things more that a simple migrant, but I'm not saying you're wrong. |
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Posted: 3/23/2016 11:04:01 PM EDT
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Whoops. I bet they won't do that again.... Well, yeah, they probably will. Just like the Belgians. Always waffling. |
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Posted: 3/23/2016 11:07:21 PM EDT
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