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Posted: 7/13/2016 9:48:41 PM EDT
Wanted to know if I could ship 10 round Glock mags to a ban state, if that's what you call it ?
Is that the legal pistol mag capacity in those two states ?
Thanks

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Wanted to give these mags away to some gun folks that would use em, and was not sure how to do it without starting a shit storm on arfcom.
So I decided to ask the people that replied back in this thread that live in 10rd states, if they could use them.
Still waiting on a few replies back from some people that were offered these.

Lawless_Flogic has backup dibs on a G17 mag.
These will be mailed today 7/15/16 if I have your address.

2-G19 mag is going to DaveM499 in New York.
1-G17 mag is going to California_Kid in California
1-G17 mag is going to Lawless_Flogic in California
Link Posted: 7/13/2016 9:50:11 PM EDT
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10 CA yes, NY not sure SAFE fucked them hard.
Link Posted: 7/13/2016 9:52:31 PM EDT
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Yes NY is 10 rounds. Courts tossed the 7 round bullshit.
Link Posted: 7/13/2016 9:53:33 PM EDT
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We don't want your 10 rounders.
Link Posted: 7/13/2016 9:54:08 PM EDT
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Id say you could even send a 30 round mag if you never plan on visiting. I'd be amazed if they could successfully extradite an out of state person for a mag violation.
Link Posted: 7/13/2016 9:56:42 PM EDT
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Who is we ?
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Nobody neeeeeeeeeeeds 1 round to stab a deeyaa!
Link Posted: 7/13/2016 9:59:44 PM EDT
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I have plenty of 17 rounders, or I did before that tragic boating accident, but you can certainly send 10 rounders here legally.

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Do ya'll get to keep the higher capacity ones you had prior ?
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Do ya'll get to keep the higher capacity ones you had prior ?
Our Overlords have instructed us to turn in, destroy, or remove from the state, anything over 10 rounds once the new law goes into effect.



 
Link Posted: 7/13/2016 11:03:48 PM EDT
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Why
Link Posted: 7/13/2016 11:04:41 PM EDT
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CT yes.
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Can you send replacement parts?

Suck to have to make multiple shipments, but staying legal if it is easy might be worth the effort.
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As in why do you want to know if you can ship those?
Link Posted: 7/13/2016 11:25:43 PM EDT
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Do you own a Glock 19 or 17 and need a mag ?
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I have plenty of 17 rounders, or I did before that tragic boating accident, but you can certainly send 10 rounders here legally.

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Do ya'll get to keep the higher capacity ones you had prior ?
Our Overlords have instructed us to turn in, destroy, or remove from the state, anything over 10 rounds once the new law goes into effect.
 

Do you own a G17 or 19 and want a mag ?
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Do you own a G17 or 19 and want a mag ?
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Do ya'll get to keep the higher capacity ones you had prior ?
Our Overlords have instructed us to turn in, destroy, or remove from the state, anything over 10 rounds once the new law goes into effect.

 
Disassemble and use them for replacement parts is an option



 
Link Posted: 7/13/2016 11:36:38 PM EDT
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I don't live in a ban state and no federal laws against shipping  a mag.

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Do ya'll get to keep the higher capacity ones you had prior ?
Our Overlords have instructed us to turn in, destroy, or remove from the state, anything over 10 rounds once the new law goes into effect.
 

What is the penalty if you get caught with a mag that holds more then 10?

Link Posted: 7/13/2016 11:42:44 PM EDT
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Here are the mags I asked the guys if they wanted, the 2 19's are slightly used, the 17's are brand new, came with a 17L.
I will pay shipping also, the cheap stuff..no cost..no sale..no strings attached.
Just use em and don't flip em please, and take a kid shooting when you get time.
I will check back on this later.

Link Posted: 7/13/2016 11:58:56 PM EDT
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I'll take the 17 mags. PM sent.
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I'll take the 17 mags. PM sent.

I'll put you on the list sir, I had 4 in front of you that answered my shipping question.
And it will be one mag per person unless that turns into a nightmare.
Link Posted: 7/14/2016 9:57:25 AM EDT
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OP updated.
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Link Posted: 7/14/2016 10:24:58 AM EDT
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1) There are no laws against sending any capacity magazine to any state. NY's laws do not extend into Pennsylvania.

2) It's illegal to have standard capacity magazines (over 10 rounds) in some states, like NY.

3) Only the person receiving them would be breaking the law. If we go by the new FBI "intent" standard, that means they intentionally ordered them and are not a really, really, Very Important Person.

4) Commercial sellers will not send magazines that might be illegal in those states, because the restricting state might sue them, and the legal fees the seller would incur are intimidating. At the least, a FFL would refuse to include them with a firearms transfer, the customer would be angry, etc...

I say "might be" because LEOs can (sometimes) possess them, unlike ordinary citizens.
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Do you own a G17 or 19 and want a mag ?




Absolutely!  IM to be sent shortly.
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Do ya'll get to keep the higher capacity ones you had prior ?



The new law will take effect in July 2017 unless it is stopped in court.





Frankly
I think there is a good chance it will get overturned - Condemning
lawfully acquired personal property without compensation doesn't pass
moral muster and maybe not constitutional muster.





I don't know anyone who is planning to actually get rid of or turn in any magazines.



       
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1) There are no laws against sending any capacity magazine to any state. NY's laws do not extend into Pennsylvania....





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I understand the regulations under which FFL holders operate, an FFL
holder who shipped to a "ban" state a magazine to a person who could not
legally possess it would be at risk of getting in hot water with the
BATFE.



As for a non-FFL shipping a magazine to another state, I agree that there is no law against it.



 
 
Link Posted: 7/14/2016 11:30:41 AM EDT
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OP updated again.
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As I understand the regulations under which FFL holders operate, an FFL holder who shipped to a "ban" state a magazine to a person who could not legally possess it would be at risk of getting in hot water with the BATFE.

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is there a federal law against FFL holders shipping mags to ban states?

or a law that requires FFLs to adhere to state laws in states that they don't reside?

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Can you send replacement parts?



Suck to have to make multiple shipments, but staying legal if it is easy might be worth the effort.




 
As far as I know with CT, parts are fine. I'd never assemble them, I'm a good citizen
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Because fuck them and people need 10rnd .458 Socom Mags
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As I understand the regulations under which FFL holders operate, an FFL holder who shipped to a "ban" state a magazine to a person who could not legally possess it would be at risk of getting in hot water with the BATFE.



As for a non-FFL shipping a magazine to another state, I agree that there is no law against it.

 

 




is there a federal law against FFL holders shipping mags to ban states?



or a law that requires FFLs to adhere to state laws in states that they don't reside?



honest question



 


It's in the regulations, not the law.  BATFE can pull your license if you don't adhere to all state and local laws.

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  Because fuck them and people need 10rnd .458 Socom Mags

That will be a great defense in the courtroom.  
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You make it sound like 10rds isn't bs. I feel for you guys man. Look of things we all will be lucky to even have 10rd mags.
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Not sure if you read the thread, but I had some 10 round mags sitting in a closet and I will never use them.
So I decided I would give them away to some arfcom members who could actually benefit from them.
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Not sure if you read the thread, but I had some 10 round mags sitting in a closet and I will never use them.

So I decided I would give them away to some arfcom members who could actually benefit from them.

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Not sure if you read the thread, but I had some 10 round mags sitting in a closet and I will never use them.

So I decided I would give them away to some arfcom members who could actually benefit from them.





 
OP is a good dude
Link Posted: 7/15/2016 6:34:04 AM EDT
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OP updated:
Waited 24hrs and did not hear back from a member, so Lawless_Flogic had dibs on the second G17 mag..congrats.

1 G19 10rd mag left for a member in a ban state.
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I don't use Glocks, but bump for those that do.


Link Posted: 7/15/2016 11:06:05 AM EDT
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Well if not claimed by noon my time, then DaveM499 from New York gets 2 G19 mags.
Link Posted: 7/15/2016 1:16:25 PM EDT
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Update in op, mags being shipped today.
You folks in California and New York, stay strong.
I hope Cali can beat some of the laws that were passed.
Link Posted: 7/18/2016 11:19:28 PM EDT
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A huge thanks to RWM. Members like him are what make this place great.  Got 2 g19 mags in the mail today. Shipped and delivered legally to my NYC address right in Manhattan. Suck on that DeBlasio and Bloomberg.

Now lets's work on getting this 10 round law thrown out.

Not giving up.
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A huge thanks to RWM. Members like him are what make this place great.  Got 2 g19 mags in the mail today. Shipped and delivered legally to my NYC address right in Manhattan. Suck on that DeBlasio and Bloomberg.

Now lets's work on getting this 10 round law thrown out.

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Not sure if you read the thread, but I had some 10 round mags sitting in a closet and I will never use them.

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Not sure if you read the thread, but I had some 10 round mags sitting in a closet and I will never use them.

So I decided I would give them away to some arfcom members who could actually benefit from them.

you are missing his point... it is legal for you to ship anything you want to a ban state, you can ship them beta's if you like, because their laws dont apply to you...



what they own is their problem, no one elses....

 
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