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Posted: 9/15/2016 5:59:29 PM EDT
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Third Wire Thursdays!! Two Wire Tuesdays. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They use magnets to raise and lower the hook so it only catches the 3 wire on Tuesdays. Third Wire Thursdays!! Two Wire Tuesdays. Bolter wave off Wednesdays? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 9/15/2016 6:00:50 PM EDT
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Also on a Hornet, the fuel tanks depressurize when the hook is down. Not sure about other aircraft.
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Posted: 9/15/2016 6:03:08 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/15/2016 6:04:03 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/15/2016 6:06:34 PM EDT
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Well just strap one of those on an A-10 and we are set!
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Posted: 9/15/2016 6:16:38 PM EDT
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If the hook or wire fails will the plane stop in time or is the landing aborted? Wire failure  https://youtu.be/r-EHwYOfY94How big of a lever do you reckon it took to pry the seat cushions out of their asses? |
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Posted: 9/15/2016 6:22:05 PM EDT
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how thick is the hook, what's it made of, and how many bolts hold it to the airframe. it has got to see a shit load of g's. I'm curious how long they last? any one have a close up photo of one? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I've got a hook point from a F-4 that I use as a door stop. It's much beefier than the hook point from a F-18. Just a tight fit with a single 5/8"cross bolt, lock washer, and a castellated nut. |
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Posted: 9/15/2016 6:23:12 PM EDT
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It's held on by one bolt. Replaced every 10 traps or sooner if the wear indicator shows it needs to be replaced. I have one somewhere, I'll see if I can find it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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how thick is the hook, what's it made of, and how many bolts hold it to the airframe. it has got to see a shit load of g's. I'm curious how long they last? any one have a close up photo of one? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile It's held on by one bolt. Replaced every 10 traps or sooner if the wear indicator shows it needs to be replaced. I have one somewhere, I'll see if I can find it. I have one as well. (9mm added for size reference) 
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Posted: 9/15/2016 6:26:18 PM EDT
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the landing gear had to get wet on that one. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If the hook or wire fails will the plane stop in time or is the landing aborted? Wire failure https://youtu.be/r-EHwYOfY94the landing gear had to get wet on that one. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Probably took 3 hours to break the pilots vacuum lock on his seat. When he ran off the deck I bet you couldn't have driven a greased straight pin up his but with a 20 ton hydraulic press. |
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Posted: 9/15/2016 6:27:31 PM EDT
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No and no....Pilots training for CQ's or carrier qualifications practice FCLP or field carrier landing practice where they perform touch and go landings for their ball flying. The only reason a Naval Aviator would purposefully take a field arrestment, is if there was an emergency like single engine or landing gear malfunction. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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When the gear is down, the hook is down. The pilot tries to hit the third wire, but a hook is a hook. Nope, tailhook can be operated independently of the gear. An F-18 landing at an airfield doesn't need or use the tailhook. Incorrect, to a point at least. Military runways have arresting gear. Ever notice the tail hook on an F-15 or F-16? It is there so that the pilot can bring a plane down safely that has a malfunction with the brakes or other issues that may prevent stopping the jet. Sometimes there are three wires, the approach end, the mid and the departure end. It can also be used if a jet, for whatever reason, cannot get airborne but cannot stop safely before running out of runway. http://www.120thairliftwing.ang.af.mil/shared/media/photodb/web/120304-Z-UJ603-075.JPG Of course, the Navy also trains Naval Aviators (to include Marine pilots) on arrested landings at shore stations. The wires will be set up to simulate a carrier deck. They too have mid and departure end wires for the reasons stated above. Very wet runways are also hard to stop on, so an arrested landing is sometimes all that stands between re-using the jet tomorrow or sending it into the body and fender shop. No and no....Pilots training for CQ's or carrier qualifications practice FCLP or field carrier landing practice where they perform touch and go landings for their ball flying. The only reason a Naval Aviator would purposefully take a field arrestment, is if there was an emergency like single engine or landing gear malfunction. Or they are attending a CAX at 29 Palms and land on the EAF. |
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Posted: 9/15/2016 6:31:55 PM EDT
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They firewall it to go around I think. That's why you hear the motors go full gas as he catches a hook ........... just in case he doesn't catch the hook. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If the hook or wire fails will the plane stop in time or is the landing aborted? They firewall it to go around I think. That's why you hear the motors go full gas as he catches a hook ........... just in case he doesn't catch the hook. Sunday!Sunday!Sunday! is for bolters. |
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Posted: 9/15/2016 6:32:09 PM EDT
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Not really an Arresting hook, it's more of a " Being Detained " hook
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Posted: 9/15/2016 6:38:30 PM EDT
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On older planes you had 'drop only.'
No real way to raise it up except maybe flying inverted. It was regarded at the time as 'risky' to put that much hardware on the hook. Punch the button and it MUST drop. |
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Posted: 9/15/2016 6:46:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryObviously a photoshop. <<< see avatar 
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Posted: 9/15/2016 7:00:49 PM EDT
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Obviously a photoshop. Possibly. That is a D model. But his one is bonafide my airdale friend 
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Obviously a photoshop. Possibly. That is a D model. But his one is bonafide my airdale friend
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Posted: 9/15/2016 7:12:32 PM EDT
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It's held on by one bolt. Replaced every 10 traps or sooner if the wear indicator shows it needs to be replaced. I have one somewhere, I'll see if I can find it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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how thick is the hook, what's it made of, and how many bolts hold it to the airframe. it has got to see a shit load of g's. I'm curious how long they last? any one have a close up photo of one? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile It's held on by one bolt. Replaced every 10 traps or sooner if the wear indicator shows it needs to be replaced. I have one somewhere, I'll see if I can find it. Once again no....Arresting hooks are built like tanks, and have special inspections for removal in the hundreds (not Ten). There is a 10 trap inspection though where a depth gauge is used to determine wear patterns. Where exactly do you guys come up with this bullshit? 
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Posted: 9/15/2016 7:19:06 PM EDT
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Once again no....Arresting hooks are built like tanks, and have special inspections for removal in the hundreds (not Ten). There is a 10 trap inspection though where a depth gauge is used to determine wear patterns. Where exactly do you guys come up with this bullshit?
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how thick is the hook, what's it made of, and how many bolts hold it to the airframe. it has got to see a shit load of g's. I'm curious how long they last? any one have a close up photo of one? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile It's held on by one bolt. Replaced every 10 traps or sooner if the wear indicator shows it needs to be replaced. I have one somewhere, I'll see if I can find it. Once again no....Arresting hooks are built like tanks, and have special inspections for removal in the hundreds (not Ten). There is a 10 trap inspection though where a depth gauge is used to determine wear patterns. Where exactly do you guys come up with this bullshit?
AmericanCheese is correct. There is a 10 trap inspection on the hook point. Replacement of the hook point is based on the outcome of these inpections. The tailhook itself is, like he said built like a tank and its attament to the aircraft is much more involved that just a bolt. |
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Posted: 9/15/2016 7:20:59 PM EDT
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I have one as well. (9mm added for size reference) http://i67.tinypic.com/n6e1qx.jpg This is a hook point. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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how thick is the hook, what's it made of, and how many bolts hold it to the airframe. it has got to see a shit load of g's. I'm curious how long they last? any one have a close up photo of one? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile It's held on by one bolt. Replaced every 10 traps or sooner if the wear indicator shows it needs to be replaced. I have one somewhere, I'll see if I can find it. I have one as well. (9mm added for size reference) http://i67.tinypic.com/n6e1qx.jpg This is a hook point. |
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Posted: 9/15/2016 7:24:17 PM EDT
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Entire tail hook. You can get a feel for the way it is assembled.
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Posted: 9/15/2016 7:24:23 PM EDT
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If the hook or wire fails will the plane stop in time or is the landing aborted? Wire failure https://youtu.be/r-EHwYOfY94Dammit, I'm too slow, I came here to post a link to that event. |
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Posted: 9/15/2016 7:25:10 PM EDT
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Once again no....Arresting hooks are built like tanks, and have special inspections for removal in the hundreds (not Ten). There is a 10 trap inspection though where a depth gauge is used to determine wear patterns. Where exactly do you guys come up with this bullshit?
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how thick is the hook, what's it made of, and how many bolts hold it to the airframe. it has got to see a shit load of g's. I'm curious how long they last? any one have a close up photo of one? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile It's held on by one bolt. Replaced every 10 traps or sooner if the wear indicator shows it needs to be replaced. I have one somewhere, I'll see if I can find it. Once again no....Arresting hooks are built like tanks, and have special inspections for removal in the hundreds (not Ten). There is a 10 trap inspection though where a depth gauge is used to determine wear patterns. Where exactly do you guys come up with this bullshit?
Lol, no. The hook point is replaced after 10 traps or if the D/T turns up a worn one. We're talking about the hook point. |
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Posted: 9/15/2016 7:26:35 PM EDT
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AmericanCheese is correct. There is a 10 trap inspection on the hook point. Replacement of the hook point is based on the outcome of these inpections. The tailhook itself is, like he said built like a tank and its attament to the aircraft is much more involved that just a bolt. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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how thick is the hook, what's it made of, and how many bolts hold it to the airframe. it has got to see a shit load of g's. I'm curious how long they last? any one have a close up photo of one? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile It's held on by one bolt. Replaced every 10 traps or sooner if the wear indicator shows it needs to be replaced. I have one somewhere, I'll see if I can find it. Once again no....Arresting hooks are built like tanks, and have special inspections for removal in the hundreds (not Ten). There is a 10 trap inspection though where a depth gauge is used to determine wear patterns. Where exactly do you guys come up with this bullshit?
AmericanCheese is correct. There is a 10 trap inspection on the hook point. Replacement of the hook point is based on the outcome of these inpections. The tailhook itself is, like he said built like a tank and its attament to the aircraft is much more involved that just a bolt. Yeah, we're talking about the point. I'm sure we understand each other now. ETA: OP, the hook shank its self doesn't skid across the ground, the hook point (pictured above) does. Sorry for the confusion guys.  img host
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Posted: 9/15/2016 7:30:23 PM EDT
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Back during WWII, fliers would drop their hooks and do a flyby of the carrier to indicate that they wanted to recover to the carrier. Don't they still do that today, at least sometimes, to preserve radio silence etc.? I always figured that was the reason for the stripes on the arresting hook (to make it more conspicuous when down).
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Posted: 9/15/2016 7:40:34 PM EDT
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When they land, they push the throttle all the way open and only shut down when they know they've caught the wire and have stopped. If they fail to catch a wire, it's called a "bolter" and they take-off, go around, and try again. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If the hook or wire fails will the plane stop in time or is the landing aborted? When they land, they push the throttle all the way open and only shut down when they know they've caught the wire and have stopped. If they fail to catch a wire, it's called a "bolter" and they take-off, go around, and try again. If the wire fails, the plane is more than likely to end up in the water though. Reason being is that it will slow the plane down enough that they usually don't have the energy to do a bolter. 
the above video is not normal, most planes/pilots can't pull that shit off. This is what normally happens:
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Posted: 9/15/2016 7:43:27 PM EDT
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If the hook or wire fails will the plane stop in time or is the landing aborted? Wire failure https://youtu.be/r-EHwYOfY94
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Posted: 9/15/2016 7:48:17 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/15/2016 7:50:15 PM EDT
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how thick is the hook, what's it made of, and how many bolts hold it to the airframe. it has got to see a shit load of g's. I'm curious how long they last? any one have a close up photo of one? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile It's held on by one bolt. Replaced every 10 traps or sooner if the wear indicator shows it needs to be replaced. I have one somewhere, I'll see if I can find it. I have one as well. (9mm added for size reference) http://i67.tinypic.com/n6e1qx.jpg that's hilarious i have also have one I was an Airframer |
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Posted: 9/15/2016 7:58:28 PM EDT
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that's hilarious i have also have one I was an Airframer Quote HistoryQuoted:
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how thick is the hook, what's it made of, and how many bolts hold it to the airframe. it has got to see a shit load of g's. I'm curious how long they last? any one have a close up photo of one? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile It's held on by one bolt. Replaced every 10 traps or sooner if the wear indicator shows it needs to be replaced. I have one somewhere, I'll see if I can find it. I have one as well. (9mm added for size reference) http://i67.tinypic.com/n6e1qx.jpg that's hilarious i have also have one I was an Airframer Ya, it was about to make a big "splash" until I interviened lol |
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Posted: 9/15/2016 7:59:35 PM EDT
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Yep. Not only does the wire stop the jet, it does so with the jet at full power, afterburner off. Pretty amazing stuff. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If the hook or wire fails will the plane stop in time or is the landing aborted? They firewall it to go around I think. That's why you hear the motors go full gas as he catches a hook ........... just in case he doesn't catch the hook. Yep. Not only does the wire stop the jet, it does so with the jet at full power, afterburner off. Pretty amazing stuff. Is there a lot of g force during this |
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Posted: 9/15/2016 8:02:30 PM EDT
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how thick is the hook, what's it made of, and how many bolts hold it to the airframe. it has got to see a shit load of g's. I'm curious how long they last? any one have a close up photo of one? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile 
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Posted: 9/15/2016 8:06:14 PM EDT
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If the hook or wire fails will the plane stop in time or is the landing aborted? Wire failure https://youtu.be/r-EHwYOfY94I wonder if they ever got the wadded up seat cushions out of the crew's asses? |
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Posted: 9/15/2016 8:08:29 PM EDT
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Lol, no. The hook point is replaced after 10 traps or if the D/T turns up a worn one. We're talking about the hook point. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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how thick is the hook, what's it made of, and how many bolts hold it to the airframe. it has got to see a shit load of g's. I'm curious how long they last? any one have a close up photo of one? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile It's held on by one bolt. Replaced every 10 traps or sooner if the wear indicator shows it needs to be replaced. I have one somewhere, I'll see if I can find it. Once again no....Arresting hooks are built like tanks, and have special inspections for removal in the hundreds (not Ten). There is a 10 trap inspection though where a depth gauge is used to determine wear patterns. Where exactly do you guys come up with this bullshit?
Lol, no. The hook point is replaced after 10 traps or if the D/T turns up a worn one. We're talking about the hook point. On what platform? On E2/C2's it absolutely does not get replaced after 10 traps because there is no hook "point", but rather, the tailhook is one solid piece. I've been flying C2's for 14 years..........
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Posted: 9/15/2016 8:31:08 PM EDT
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how thick is the hook, what's it made of, and how many bolts hold it to the airframe. it has got to see a shit load of g's. I'm curious how long they last? any one have a close up photo of one? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile It's held on by one bolt. Replaced every 10 traps or sooner if the wear indicator shows it needs to be replaced. I have one somewhere, I'll see if I can find it. Once again no....Arresting hooks are built like tanks, and have special inspections for removal in the hundreds (not Ten). There is a 10 trap inspection though where a depth gauge is used to determine wear patterns. Where exactly do you guys come up with this bullshit?
Lol, no. The hook point is replaced after 10 traps or if the D/T turns up a worn one. We're talking about the hook point. On what platform? On E2/C2's it absolutely does not get replaced after 10 traps because there is no hook "point", but rather, the tailhook is one solid piece. I've been flying C2's for 14 years..........
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Huh. I never noticed that. Is the Hawkeye the same? You guys also land a lot slower so I guess it's less blunt force. Next time you're on a flight deck, take a look at the hooks on the other birds. They use replaceable hook points (as pictured above). By the way, former Hornet full system QAR, Safe For Flight, Final Checker (ashore and afloat), High/Low power Instructor and NATOPS Instructor here. Have you never been in the Ready Room and seen a hook point hanging over a pilot's seat because he bolters a lot? Do you even 130-300 bro? 
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ETA: If you look at the hook points pictured above, the wear indicator is a 90deg piece of the hook point which drags against the deck/runway. When it's worn down to flat it gets replaced. The shank its self gets NDI'd every so often, but I forget the cycle. If it hits the fan tail it just gets ripped off right away. |
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Posted: 9/15/2016 8:40:00 PM EDT
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We had a USMC captain bolt so many times that when he caught the wire the bolt holding the shoe shot of and hit the conning tower. We actually heard it during flight ops. Needless to say he was given a large dose of feces for his landing ability.  Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 9/15/2016 9:59:33 PM EDT
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Incorrect, to a point at least. Military runways have arresting gear. Ever notice the tail hook on an F-15 or F-16? It is there so that the pilot can bring a plane down safely that has a malfunction with the brakes or other issues that may prevent stopping the jet. Sometimes there are three wires, the approach end, the mid and the departure end. It can also be used if a jet, for whatever reason, cannot get airborne but cannot stop safely before running out of runway. http://www.120thairliftwing.ang.af.mil/shared/media/photodb/web/120304-Z-UJ603-075.JPG Of course, the Navy also trains Naval Aviators (to include Marine pilots) on arrested landings at shore stations. The wires will be set up to simulate a carrier deck. They too have mid and departure end wires for the reasons stated above. Very wet runways are also hard to stop on, so an arrested landing is sometimes all that stands between re-using the jet tomorrow or sending it into the body and fender shop. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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When the gear is down, the hook is down. The pilot tries to hit the third wire, but a hook is a hook. Nope, tailhook can be operated independently of the gear. An F-18 landing at an airfield doesn't need or use the tailhook. Incorrect, to a point at least. Military runways have arresting gear. Ever notice the tail hook on an F-15 or F-16? It is there so that the pilot can bring a plane down safely that has a malfunction with the brakes or other issues that may prevent stopping the jet. Sometimes there are three wires, the approach end, the mid and the departure end. It can also be used if a jet, for whatever reason, cannot get airborne but cannot stop safely before running out of runway. http://www.120thairliftwing.ang.af.mil/shared/media/photodb/web/120304-Z-UJ603-075.JPG Of course, the Navy also trains Naval Aviators (to include Marine pilots) on arrested landings at shore stations. The wires will be set up to simulate a carrier deck. They too have mid and departure end wires for the reasons stated above. Very wet runways are also hard to stop on, so an arrested landing is sometimes all that stands between re-using the jet tomorrow or sending it into the body and fender shop. The one I watched do that heard about it from his squadron mates for weeks, in addition to everyone laughing at him as he waited to be unhooked and the wire reset so he could get back to simulated traps with our new shiney (needed X cats and traps before it could move to shipboard testing).
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Posted: 9/15/2016 10:21:06 PM EDT
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When the gear is down, the hook is down. The pilot tries to hit the third wire, but a hook is a hook. Nope, tailhook can be operated independently of the gear. An F-18 landing at an airfield doesn't need or use the tailhook. That would be quite a site to watch a f-18 land on Tarmac with the hook down. Just sparks as the hooks drags along the runway. Nothing big. |
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Posted: 9/15/2016 10:21:47 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/15/2016 10:37:38 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/15/2016 10:44:07 PM EDT
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That would be quite a site to watch a f-18 land on Tarmac with the hook down. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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When the gear is down, the hook is down. The pilot tries to hit the third wire, but a hook is a hook. Nope, tailhook can be operated independently of the gear. An F-18 landing at an airfield doesn't need or use the tailhook. That would be quite a site to watch a f-18 land on Tarmac with the hook down. It would look a lot like this. 
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Posted: 9/15/2016 10:44:52 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/15/2016 10:45:10 PM EDT
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If the hook or wire fails will the plane stop in time or is the landing aborted? Wire failure https://youtu.be/r-EHwYOfY94I watched that and my butt puckered when he dropped over the deck. 
Then he reappeared and my heart leapt, and I said (out loud, and I'm alone), "HOLY FAWK--HE MADE IT! HE MADE IT!!" Do they always make it--especially one with fans?
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Posted: 9/15/2016 10:48:40 PM EDT
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That would be quite a site to watch a f-18 land on Tarmac with the hook down. It would look a lot like this. http://i.imgur.com/LLXaUH7.jpg http://i.imgur.com/a8mNTvl.jpg No, the Navy pilot would have a sink rate of 500-700 feet per minute and would slam that bitch to the deck right before the wire, so sparkage would be minimal.
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Posted: 9/15/2016 10:49:11 PM EDT
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When the gear is down, the hook is down. The pilot tries to hit the third wire, but a hook is a hook. Nope, tailhook can be operated independently of the gear. An F-18 landing at an airfield doesn't need or use the tailhook. That would be quite a site to watch a f-18 land on Tarmac with the hook down. there are airfields with arresting wires - Goodyear AZ, for example. I thought Goodyear only had old retired airliners?!?! Somebody there has or had contracts to do some work on military fighter aircraft, hence the cables. I seem to recall there being one of the AF's drone conversion contractors being there back in the 1980s, so they would have needed a cable system then. That was for either the QF-100 or the QF-106 drone program, IIRC. |
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Posted: 9/15/2016 10:54:29 PM EDT
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If the hook or wire fails will the plane stop in time or is the landing aborted? Wire failure https://youtu.be/r-EHwYOfY94the landing gear had to get wet on that one. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile So did the crew seats. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 9/15/2016 10:57:09 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/15/2016 10:58:15 PM EDT
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No, the Navy pilot would have a sink rate of 500-700 feet per minute and would slam that bitch to the deck right before the wire, so sparkage would be minimal.
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That would be quite a site to watch a f-18 land on Tarmac with the hook down. It would look a lot like this. http://i.imgur.com/LLXaUH7.jpg http://i.imgur.com/a8mNTvl.jpg No, the Navy pilot would have a sink rate of 500-700 feet per minute and would slam that bitch to the deck right before the wire, so sparkage would be minimal.
Yep, they only land one way.
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Posted: 9/15/2016 11:00:19 PM EDT
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F-14 is pneumatic/hydraulically lowered and hydraulically raised.
I was lucky enough to be given the hook point of 'my' bird, buno 162600, while I was senior plane captain for our squadron on the Nimitz. Hook points were changed out after 100 arrested landings. 
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Posted: 9/15/2016 11:00:29 PM EDT
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Something I just found out about today. This will put some hair on your chest!
Eric Brown really was all that is man, I wish I could have met him. |
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Posted: 9/15/2016 11:02:12 PM EDT
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Start at 2 minutes |
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Posted: 9/15/2016 11:06:06 PM EDT
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Start at 2:30 minutes |
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