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Link Posted: 9/24/2016 3:47:37 PM EDT
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Has everyone seen the "why aren't I ahead by 50 points" video? All Trump has to do is stand there, and Clinton will win it for him.

Link Posted: 9/24/2016 3:49:58 PM EDT
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I'm going to drink every time Hillary dodges a scandal question by saying some variant of "that's in the past and I think Americans want to hear about the future direction of the country."



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Been nice knowing you.
Link Posted: 9/24/2016 3:55:40 PM EDT
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Honestly?

I think Clinton has been rope-a-doping and will come out of the gates way better than any of us are expecting her to.  She's a career politician, this is what she does…she won't be beaten easily.  Trump has to stay calm, stay on message, and appear in control and "presidential".  Trump doesn't have to "win" he just has to "beat the spread".  If he can do good enough on the policy stuff, look good (see JFK vs. Nixon), and avoid putting his foot in his mouth that would be ideal.  He needs to play it as safe as his personality will allow.

If she goes into a coughing fit or fainting spell all bets are off.  An interesting discussion is what should Trump do if she can't stop coughing or looks like she is about to faint?  I think he needs to be as chivalrous as possible without looking tacky; maybe let her cough for an awkward bit and then request they go to commercial (no commercials currently planned).
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Media will spin that as him benefiting from the commercial break by having some form of vested interest.
Link Posted: 9/24/2016 3:55:53 PM EDT
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I think Trump will do fine, I expect he will be presidential, but will be slipping in some barbs on email sandwich whenever he sees the chance to, which should get the cunt rattled and off her game...lone that starts..she is going to hit ugly fast....should be epic...
Link Posted: 9/24/2016 4:09:46 PM EDT
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Anything less than a huge win for trump is a win for hillary.
Link Posted: 9/24/2016 4:23:16 PM EDT
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I'll bet he works this line in.  


Link Posted: 9/25/2016 8:18:57 PM EDT
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LOL "by all accounts".

Whose "accounts" would those be, exactly?
 
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Trump is by all accounts not prepping for this debate.

LOL "by all accounts".

Whose "accounts" would those be, exactly?
 


Here is another account that backs up my assertion:

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_CAMPAIGN_2016_DEBATE_THE_PODIUM?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-09-24-11-45-26


The New York billionaire has skipped practicing a full debate as he gets ready for his first on-stage meeting with Hillary Clinton. While he has studied policy ideas and practiced answering questions he may face Monday night, experts who have been through the process call his decision to skip time-intensive mock debates a mistake.

"I think he's putting himself at an incredible disadvantage," said Brett O'Donnell, a Republican strategist and veteran debate coach who compared Trump's decision to a football team failing to scrimmage.

Trump's Democratic rival, Hillary Clinton, has run through full-length mock debates against a stand-in for Trump during her preparation sessions. For good reason, O'Donnell said. Gaming out every potential permutation of what might happen in the 90-minute showdown helps a candidate calculate how to respond.

"If you simulate what could happen in the debates, then you understand how to handle those moments when they actually do happen," he said.

Link Posted: 9/25/2016 9:04:58 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/25/2016 9:25:43 PM EDT
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I see it as the exact opposite. Expectations are for him to get a couple of blows in while she puts the crowd to sleep. She wins with her clear and concise vision, he gains votes. The real winner is the media. If this is a record setter, expect every debate to be a polls tied/dead heat/nail biter.
Link Posted: 9/25/2016 9:29:07 PM EDT
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It's gonna be a shitshow.  Everyone will say the candidate they already supported beforehand dominated the debate.  Undecided voters will simply weep for the future of our country.


Link Posted: 9/26/2016 11:14:56 AM EDT
[#12]
Mark Cuban still gonna show? Cause I want to watch Gennifer Flowers stare him down.
Link Posted: 9/26/2016 11:30:23 AM EDT
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People here need to start drinking now, and resolve themselves to a big night for Hillary.

1) No matter what happens, no matter how well Donald does, it will be spun in the media as a Hillary win.  The debates don't matter so much as the reporting of the debates, because more people will see the summaries than the actual event.  The media will make it a Hilldawg win.
2) Lester Holt WILL throw a bullshit gotcha at Donald.  He's probably been working with a crack staff and Hillary operatives to craft one that lets Lester look impartial but is designed to elicit a response or soundbite.  Donald is debating Lester, not so much Hillary tonight.  Believe it.  Expect a Candy Crowley moment on steroids.
3) This is the most important point...Hillary is not going to stroke out.  Despite all our greatest hopes, there won't be a coughing fit, bout of the falling sickness, or anything like that.  We've built it up so much here that people expect it to happen.  It won't sorry to say.  

I am sending every positive vibe I can towards Donald for a big night, a nail in the coffin night, but realistically speaking, it would take Hillary passing the fuck out mid-sentence for this night be anything but a resounding win for her, one that the media will repeatedly report seals the deal and why even bother with actual voting because it's a slam dunk?  The post-debate blitz will be focused on suppressing voting on the right, and energizing the left.  They ave to do it, no matter what, and they will.
Link Posted: 9/26/2016 11:33:27 AM EDT
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People here need to start drinking now, and resolve themselves to a big night for Hillary.



1) No matter what happens, no matter how well Donald does, it will be spun in the media as a Hillary win.  The debates don't matter so much as the reporting of the debates, because more people will see the summaries than the actual event.  The media will make it a Hilldawg win.

2) Lester Holt WILL throw a bullshit gotcha at Donald.  He's probably been working with a crack staff and Hillary operatives to craft one that lets Lester look impartial but is designed to elicit a response or soundbite.  Donald is debating Lester, not so much Hillary tonight.  Believe it.  Expect a Candy Crowley moment on steroids.

3) This is the most important point...Hillary is not going to stroke out.  Despite all our greatest hopes, there won't be a coughing fit, bout of the falling sickness, or anything like that.  We've built it up so much here that people expect it to happen.  It won't sorry to say.  



I am sending every positive vibe I can towards Donald for a big night, a nail in the coffin night, but realistically speaking, it would take Hillary passing the fuck out mid-sentence for this night be anything but a resounding win for her, one that the media will repeatedly report seals the deal and why even bother with actual voting because it's a slam dunk?  The post-debate blitz will be focused on suppressing voting on the right, and energizing the left.  They ave to do it, no matter what, and they will.
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You never get tired of being wrong in your predictions, do you?
Link Posted: 9/26/2016 11:34:08 AM EDT
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This is the kind of thing that sank the others in the Primary. How do you prepare for the unpredictable?

This is what the others and the press haven't figure out yet. He doesn't work with the same rule book, so it's almost impossible to guess what he might say or do.
 
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Trump's Democratic rival, Hillary Clinton, has run through full-length mock debates against a stand-in for Trump during her preparation sessions. For good reason, O'Donnell said. Gaming out every potential permutation of what might happen in the 90-minute showdown helps a candidate calculate how to respond.

"If you simulate what could happen in the debates, then you understand how to handle those moments when they actually do happen," he said.


This is the kind of thing that sank the others in the Primary. How do you prepare for the unpredictable?

This is what the others and the press haven't figure out yet. He doesn't work with the same rule book, so it's almost impossible to guess what he might say or do.
 


So a while back, before she selected her debate stand-in, I was listening to some great insider analysis from a panel who has done these debate preps.  They said that Donald in fact does present the biggest challenge because of is unpredictability and willingness to go where no other candidate does.  This is a challenge for the prep because anyone she selects has to be willing to essentially burn a bridge with her.  Say things so fucked up that Hillary perhaps never forgives it, and kills your future career.  Otherwise, if they don't go there, she won't be prepared if Donald actually does.

I highly doubt Donald goes there tho...I do expect him to try and be super Presidential and level headed tonight.
Link Posted: 9/26/2016 11:35:06 AM EDT
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What I Think will happen: Clinton does better than expected with full media support and post-game spin.


What I hope happens: trump sys the time in his opening remarks with something like,  "I know you've had some problems, hillary.  If these lights are too hot and you start to feel faint, let us know and we will make sure you get a fan and some cool water.  Also, it was my understanding that this event would be without earpieces so feel free to take yours out or have your whisperer come on stage.  I'll be glad to debate both of you at the same time as long as both of you are present. "
Link Posted: 9/26/2016 11:36:04 AM EDT
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at some point, Hillary, being bothered by the height difference between her and Trump,
starts to stand on the molding at the bottom of her podium.

She starts to have a dizzy spell, clutches at the podium causing it to fall over with her clinging to it.

Clinton's medical team races on the stage, declares that she cannot continue the debate - Trump wins the election in a landslide
Link Posted: 9/26/2016 11:36:50 AM EDT
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Would put money down that Clinton has had the questions for a month
Link Posted: 9/26/2016 11:37:05 AM EDT
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Here is another account that backs up my assertion:

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_CAMPAIGN_2016_DEBATE_THE_PODIUM?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-09-24-11-45-26


The New York billionaire has skipped practicing a full debate as he gets ready for his first on-stage meeting with Hillary Clinton. While he has studied policy ideas and practiced answering questions he may face Monday night, experts who have been through the process call his decision to skip time-intensive mock debates a mistake.

"I think he's putting himself at an incredible disadvantage," said Brett O'Donnell, a Republican strategist and veteran debate coach who compared Trump's decision to a football team failing to scrimmage.

Trump's Democratic rival, Hillary Clinton, has run through full-length mock debates against a stand-in for Trump during her preparation sessions. For good reason, O'Donnell said. Gaming out every potential permutation of what might happen in the 90-minute showdown helps a candidate calculate how to respond.

"If you simulate what could happen in the debates, then you understand how to handle those moments when they actually do happen," he said.

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Trump is by all accounts not prepping for this debate.

LOL "by all accounts".

Whose "accounts" would those be, exactly?
 


Here is another account that backs up my assertion:

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_CAMPAIGN_2016_DEBATE_THE_PODIUM?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-09-24-11-45-26


The New York billionaire has skipped practicing a full debate as he gets ready for his first on-stage meeting with Hillary Clinton. While he has studied policy ideas and practiced answering questions he may face Monday night, experts who have been through the process call his decision to skip time-intensive mock debates a mistake.

"I think he's putting himself at an incredible disadvantage," said Brett O'Donnell, a Republican strategist and veteran debate coach who compared Trump's decision to a football team failing to scrimmage.

Trump's Democratic rival, Hillary Clinton, has run through full-length mock debates against a stand-in for Trump during her preparation sessions. For good reason, O'Donnell said. Gaming out every potential permutation of what might happen in the 90-minute showdown helps a candidate calculate how to respond.

"If you simulate what could happen in the debates, then you understand how to handle those moments when they actually do happen," he said.



So a person selling a service is mad someone else isn't buying their services. Gotcha.
Link Posted: 9/26/2016 11:37:18 AM EDT
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at some point, Hillary, being bothered by the height difference between her and Trump,

starts to stand on the molding at the bottom of her podium.



She starts to have a dizzy spell, clutches at the podium causing it to fall over with her clinging to it.



Clinton's medical team races on the stage, declares that she cannot continue the debate - Trump wins the election in a landslide
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That's more of a fantasy than a prediction.
Link Posted: 9/26/2016 11:37:31 AM EDT
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  You never get tired of being wrong in your predictions, do you?
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People here need to start drinking now, and resolve themselves to a big night for Hillary.

1) No matter what happens, no matter how well Donald does, it will be spun in the media as a Hillary win.  The debates don't matter so much as the reporting of the debates, because more people will see the summaries than the actual event.  The media will make it a Hilldawg win.
2) Lester Holt WILL throw a bullshit gotcha at Donald.  He's probably been working with a crack staff and Hillary operatives to craft one that lets Lester look impartial but is designed to elicit a response or soundbite.  Donald is debating Lester, not so much Hillary tonight.  Believe it.  Expect a Candy Crowley moment on steroids.
3) This is the most important point...Hillary is not going to stroke out.  Despite all our greatest hopes, there won't be a coughing fit, bout of the falling sickness, or anything like that.  We've built it up so much here that people expect it to happen.  It won't sorry to say.  

I am sending every positive vibe I can towards Donald for a big night, a nail in the coffin night, but realistically speaking, it would take Hillary passing the fuck out mid-sentence for this night be anything but a resounding win for her, one that the media will repeatedly report seals the deal and why even bother with actual voting because it's a slam dunk?  The post-debate blitz will be focused on suppressing voting on the right, and energizing the left.  They ave to do it, no matter what, and they will.

  You never get tired of being wrong in your predictions, do you?


Oh, you have serious money down in Vegas on Hillary stroking out tonight?

You can wishful think this all you want, but ask yourself how pretty much every debate in the last 25 years has gone...when do they ever call a Republican win a win?  Republicans at best get a tie, no matter how they do.  If it is a rare dominating performance, then they maybe call it a slight edge and then stack the deck in the next one.  Remember when Romney trounced Obama in the first debate?  The best the media admitted to was lack of energy for Obama, and then Candy rode in to save the day in a later debate.

Don't be naive dude.  I want it to happen, I desperately want it to happen, but you watch the media blitzkrieg tomorrow.
Link Posted: 9/26/2016 11:38:40 AM EDT
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Of course, her team wrote them.
Link Posted: 9/26/2016 11:41:39 AM EDT
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25% chance of the Hillary camp claiming there's some sort of "security issue" and calling it off so she doesn't stroke out on live TV.
50% chance she takes a 45min bathroom break.
24% chance she stays on stage but has a weak showing.
1% chance the reptilian's bodysuit fails and they have to rush her off stage to get her back under her heat lamp. Just like New York
100% chance the Hilldabeast claims Trump is a racist.
Link Posted: 9/26/2016 11:44:32 AM EDT
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Shrill Screeching, hopefully a seizure.
Link Posted: 9/26/2016 11:46:39 AM EDT
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Pie eating contest.

Link Posted: 9/26/2016 11:47:20 AM EDT
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Both Republican and Democrat voters will wonder how they got it so wrong in the primaries





Link Posted: 9/26/2016 12:00:02 PM EDT
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I never get tired of waiting for you to show everybody up in the handgun challenge thread after you posted this:

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I shot about a 10" 10-shot group at 150 yards with an iron-sighted Ruger Mark II pistol on the first try.  I was standing, braced against a post.

Surprised the hell out of me.
 


While we're talking about things we never get tired of.....

Link Posted: 9/26/2016 12:02:19 PM EDT
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When Hillary debated The Socialist, she held her own and came across as exaggerated in accomplishments, and boring,




but the Bern was low energy and he was not hitting back.




Hillary will be in unfamiliar territory with Trump. All he needs to do is hit her over the head with issues in plane speak.




Hillary cannot talk in plane, she comes out condescending and shrill .




Trump is going to hit her, and hit her hard.






Link Posted: 9/26/2016 12:07:01 PM EDT
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Hillary will have a detailed script for talking points and what she'll say. This includes criticisms and attacks on Trump, of course. Trump is the loose cannon. I'd like to think he has a plan, but I doubt it. If he doesn't hurt himself with what he says he's got a shot to gain from the debate.
Link Posted: 9/26/2016 12:19:26 PM EDT
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I wonder if she will have her ear piece in?
Link Posted: 9/26/2016 12:20:13 PM EDT
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I think despite all the media spin, regardless of the "issues" and policy that are discussed, Trump will gain from the debate.  It has noting to do with anything either of them say, its just a fact of human nature.

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/10/who-will-win/497561/
Link Posted: 9/26/2016 12:22:21 PM EDT
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As Limbaugh just said, Lester Holt will debate Trump, and Hillary will just stand there and smile.
Link Posted: 9/26/2016 12:23:59 PM EDT
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I think despite all the media spin, regardless of the "issues" and policy that are discussed, Trump will gain from the debate.  It has noting to do with anything either of them say, its just a fact of human nature.

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It's going to be about demeanor and presentation. How professional they come across. Temperament.
Link Posted: 9/26/2016 12:39:21 PM EDT
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It's going to be about demeanor and presentation. How professional they come across. Temperament.
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I think despite all the media spin, regardless of the "issues" and policy that are discussed, Trump will gain from the debate.  It has noting to do with anything either of them say, its just a fact of human nature.

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/10/who-will-win/497561/




It's going to be about demeanor and presentation. How professional they come across. Temperament.


The one bright point is that if the ferns interview was any indication, Clintons idea of "professional and dignified" tends to come across more as "super awkward and robotic".

The bad news is if they saw the reaction from that interview she might try something else.
Link Posted: 9/26/2016 12:46:30 PM EDT
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All I'm saying is that it'd been 11 years since the Vols beat the Gators and things are looking up
Link Posted: 9/26/2016 12:53:39 PM EDT
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Trump will be smooth, relaxed, Presidential and stick to delineating  the differences between his policies and Hillary's.

"Are you better off now than you were 8 yrs ago?  You've been in Washington for 30 yrs. and had every opportunity to make things better but you haven't."

Trump has a good sense of humor which I expect he'll use against Hilly too.  I think she'll be terrified when she waddles onto the stage.
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I'll go with this prediction.

Trump will be much better on policy issues than most viewers expect. If you watched the his press conference during the DNC you have seen how good he is when it is time to be good.

Now is the time.
Link Posted: 9/26/2016 12:55:33 PM EDT
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Hillary will try to appear lively and fail, while playing 'feels' buzzword bingo. Trump will try to dial it back and largely succeed. Media will pick one phrase and use it out of context to declare Hillary the winner.

No significant momentum change.

In my mind this comes down to if any more major dirt comes to light on Clinton. If it does Trump wins. If the race stays as expected, Hillary wins by 1-2 swing states.
Link Posted: 9/26/2016 1:03:04 PM EDT
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I predict no fewer than 25 threads about the debate in GD.
Link Posted: 9/26/2016 1:06:41 PM EDT
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If Trump had any balls, and wanted to earn the title of Master Troll, he should put this on his podium next to the microphone.  

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I don't completely agree.  Far too many times, his "foot in mouth" was actually the media mis-portraying what he actually said.

 
Link Posted: 9/26/2016 1:20:05 PM EDT
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Could care less. It makes no difference. My mind was made up long ago.
Link Posted: 9/26/2016 1:36:14 PM EDT
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I think Trump knows the media will call it for Hilldawg. It's too damn obvious at this point who's corner they are in. Between the live viewership and the clips replayed all over everyone in the nation will see this thing. And they will see it in the way that the Clinton campaign wants it shown. Trump and damn near anyone with one eye and half sense knows this. The independents, undecideds, and not voting because Bernie / Cruz didn't make it demographic are all that Trump can gain or lose in these things. And I think Trump has a pretty good shot with them still yet.
Link Posted: 9/26/2016 1:53:10 PM EDT
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Trump: "If you want to continue to allow terrorists to continue to freely enter the country, then vote for my opponent..."


Link Posted: 9/26/2016 1:56:08 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/26/2016 3:34:56 PM EDT
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Can't wait
Link Posted: 9/26/2016 4:15:58 PM EDT
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If this is true....  its going to be a one hell of a ride tonight!

Trump is bringing a Benghazi survivor!

http://redstatewatcher.com/article.asp?id=39685
Link Posted: 9/26/2016 4:35:19 PM EDT
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If this is true....  its going to be a one hell of a ride tonight!



Trump is bringing a Benghazi survivor!



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It's true.  



 
Link Posted: 9/26/2016 4:39:28 PM EDT
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Oh hell yeah it is.  Mark Geist will be front and center!

Trump played them again, threaten to bring Flowers, and remind the whole nation what a shit bag Clinton was.....

Then remind them why Hilary can't be president by inviting Mark.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/trump-debate-invitees-include-benghazi-survivor-gold-star-mom/

I hope we can here him shout "What difference does it make"
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Bwahahahahahaha!!! Good one! ... Wait, you were serious?

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Link Posted: 9/26/2016 5:05:13 PM EDT
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the unreedemable deplorables will be vindicated
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