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Posted: 1/7/2017 12:40:59 AM EDT
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he's going to get his shit pushed in by the feds and he'll be irrelevant
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Posted: 1/7/2017 12:42:12 AM EDT
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He's a douchebag.
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Posted: 1/7/2017 12:44:02 AM EDT
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he's going to get his shit pushed in by the feds and he'll be irrelevant Yep. I really like his style, but the government will take him down. |
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Posted: 1/7/2017 12:44:35 AM EDT
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If you've ever read commentaries by Ayn Rand or seen any of the interviews, you'd know she would consider him a leech. He produced NOTHING, but rather used opportunism to profit. He is actually part of the establishment she railed against.
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Posted: 1/7/2017 12:47:29 AM EDT
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He's a piece of shit
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Posted: 1/7/2017 12:47:46 AM EDT
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He's a douchebag. |
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Posted: 1/7/2017 12:54:42 AM EDT
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I see you all took the bait from the MSM.
Try catching one of his livestreams sometime. Maybe you'll learn something. |
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Posted: 1/7/2017 1:02:06 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/7/2017 1:02:36 AM EDT
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I see you all took the bait from the MSM. Try catching one of his livestreams sometime. Maybe you'll learn something. OP or one of the responses? I don't really do much MSM, but I imagine they hate the guy too. |
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Posted: 1/7/2017 1:05:27 AM EDT
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He can be entertaining, but I think he used a fucked up tactic when he got the pharma company. That was tantamount to extortion
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Posted: 1/7/2017 1:05:55 AM EDT
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OP or one of the responses? I don't really do much MSM, but I imagine they hate the guy too. The responses. For as much as the GD crowd says they dislike the leftists and the media, they seem to lack the critical thinking skills to discern when something is news and when it is propaganda. |
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Posted: 1/7/2017 1:06:43 AM EDT
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You "can" do pretty shitty things in this country but you may also deserve the equal & opposite wrathful blowback for those actions. That's the way I see it.
I think he's a USDA Prime dick head & have no problem with him getting called out. The 'free market' doesn't exist in the world of pharma, and simply can't. IBT "government's fault!", that's not even the half of it, people like Marty have played a major role getting us here. |
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Posted: 1/7/2017 1:10:24 AM EDT
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He can be entertaining, but I think he used a fucked up tactic when he got the pharma company. That was tantamount to extortion Was it? Do you think that other pharma companies don't raise prices? Should Daraprim, a drug discovered in 1952, with shitty side effects, continue to be prescribed? Or should someone put their foot down and try to research an alternative? If Daraprim sells for $1 a pill, there isn't any profit margin to use towards new drug research that costs tens of millions of dollars. If it sells for $1 a pill, why on earth would Merck or Pfizer have an incentive to enter the market for that drug to compete? These are questions that should be asked, and when you find the answers, you'll see that the media's case against Shkreli was baseless and emotion-filled. Also, it wasn't extortion when the insurance companies were eating the cost anyway. An insured patient didn't see a damn thing change, but if they did, Turing pharma actually has a patient assistance program for Daraprim so that you can pay a low or no cost for it. |
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Posted: 1/7/2017 1:11:46 AM EDT
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I see you all took the bait from the MSM. Try catching one of his livestreams sometime. Maybe you'll learn something. How to be a sack of shit? I'm not talking about his exploitation of our fucked up laws and medical system either. He is a smug, arrogant little fuck. |
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Posted: 1/7/2017 1:14:53 AM EDT
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You "can" do pretty shitty things in this country but you may also deserve the equal & opposite wrathful blowback for those actions. That's the way I see it. I think he's a USDA Prime dick head & have no problem with him getting called out. The 'free market' doesn't exist in the world of pharma, and simply can't. IBT "government's fault!", that's not even the half of it, people like Marty have played a major role getting us here. Shkreli made his fortune by manipulating stock prices and he wasn't very good at it. He's not a clever investor. He's a parasite who sucks the blood of government intervention and cheats whenever possible. |
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Posted: 1/7/2017 1:16:23 AM EDT
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How to be a sack of shit? I'm not talking about his exploitation of our fucked up laws and medical system either. He is a smug, arrogant little fuck. And he's also a professional troll who has clearly done a great job on you. 
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Posted: 1/7/2017 1:20:08 AM EDT
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He's a complete fuckstain, in need of percussive therapy.
If he was my kid, his DNA would be worked into the ground until the rain could erase my mistake. All the same, his mistake was not being connected enough, before fucking millions legally through the system set up by maggots in DC. The arrogant asshole made a HUGE investment, and made a huge bet, on a monopoly created by other than himself, when nobody else would. He's a fucker, but on the level of a goddamned Coyote. Coyotes need to be shot on sight, but they are honest. If he was just the ugly wad of shit, ejected from the loins of a Congresscunt's nonbathing inbred wife...the global socialist media would forget his name, and this thread would have never happened. Real greasy fucker. Who do you blame. The murdering asshole that leaves victims in a pasture, or the Coyote that gets fat on the corpses? |
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Posted: 1/7/2017 1:20:24 AM EDT
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And he's also a professional troll who has clearly done a great job on you. I think you are assuming that we all think that every troll is some kind of GD hero. You would be mistaken. If you had a loved on on Daraprim who had no insurance and the cost went from 1.00 to 800.00 overnight for no apparent reason other than because he now owns it, you may be singing a different tune. Also what is being researched to replace Daraprim? I have no clue as I know no one who takes it. |
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Posted: 1/7/2017 1:29:36 AM EDT
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Smart guy. I would love to sit down over some drinks and pick his brain for a bit.
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Posted: 1/7/2017 1:41:17 AM EDT
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I think you are assuming that we all think that every troll is some kind of GD hero. You would be mistaken. If you had a loved on on Daraprim who had no insurance and the cost went from 1.00 to 800.00 overnight for no apparent reason other than because he now owns it, you may be singing a different tune. Also what is being researched to replace Daraprim? I have no clue as I know no one who takes it. That right there, in the red. Fuck Shkreli, that shit is criminal. He wasn't "just, like, engaging in capitalism maaaaaan!" he fucking endangered peoples lives. Also, google "Daraprim replacement". Its being replaced by an entirely different company with a new drug priced at, guess what? $1 a pill. $12.50 LESS that the ORIGINAL Daraprim price of $13.50 a pill that Shkreli claimed was "unprofitable". Fucking LOL. Shkreli didn't do shit. He is not a genius or some capitalist hero. He's a retarded tool, a hack, a criminal, and a business failure. Again, fuck Martin Shkreli. He's scum. |
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Posted: 1/7/2017 1:43:04 AM EDT
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I think you are assuming that we all think that every troll is some kind of GD hero. You would be mistaken. If you had a loved on on Daraprim who had no insurance and the cost went from 1.00 to 800.00 overnight for no apparent reason other than because he now owns it, you may be singing a different tune. Also what is being researched to replace Daraprim? I have no clue as I know no one who takes it. Do you have proof that anyone who uses the drug couldn't get it because of the rising cost? As far as I know no one can seem to find anyone. |
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Posted: 1/7/2017 1:43:42 AM EDT
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He's a businessman who's also a dbag. He owns the patent to something that people need to live. He's making money from that. Was it a dbag move? Yes. Would I have done it? Maybe not as much, but if he puts most of it into R&D he can save a lot more life's then his actions will take.
Follow him on Twitter. He's a dbag. |
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Posted: 1/7/2017 1:45:32 AM EDT
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That right there, in the red. Fuck Shkreli, that shit is criminal. He wasn't "just, like, engaging in capitalism maaaaaan!" he fucking endangered peoples lives. Also, google "Daraprim replacement". Its being replaced by an entirely different company with a new drug priced at, guess what? $1 a pill. $12.50 LESS that the ORIGINAL Daraprim price of $13.50 a pill that Shkreli claimed was "unprofitable". Fucking LOL. Shkreli didn't do shit. He is not a genius or some capitalist hero. He's a retarded tool, a hack, a criminal, and a business failure. Again, fuck Martin Shkreli. He's scum. So you should be limited to what you charge for your goods? Do you happen to be a Venezuelan? ETA: And before you go all dumb. I actually have a family member on this. |
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Posted: 1/7/2017 1:55:48 AM EDT
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So you should be limited to what you charge for your goods? Do you happen to be a Venezuelan? ETA: And before you go all dumb. I actually have a family member on this. When it comes to life saving drugs with no alternative, abso-fucking-lutely. 
Sorry, but this is the one thing that I fully support pricing regulations for. Also, INB4 "Fuck you FSA commie!" Flame on. 
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Posted: 1/7/2017 2:00:27 AM EDT
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Watch him. Scumbag
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Posted: 1/7/2017 2:03:50 AM EDT
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Watch him. Scumbag
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Posted: 1/7/2017 2:08:54 AM EDT
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When it comes to life saving drugs with no alternative, abso-fucking-lutely.
Sorry, but this is the one thing that I fully support pricing regulations for. Also, INB4 "Fuck you FSA commie!" Flame on. Yeah fuck the free market. I bet lots of people are dying to spend billions on drugs that make millions. In the end your FSA commie bs policy will kill more than it helps. This case is a little different but it sets a nasty tone for pharma v gov. We pay good money for medicine because life isn't cheap. |
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Posted: 1/7/2017 2:11:28 AM EDT
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Never should have let him out of the trashcan in high school...
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Posted: 1/7/2017 2:11:49 AM EDT
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Why not both?
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Posted: 1/7/2017 2:12:21 AM EDT
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He is a POS of epic proportions that did some highly unethical shit legally.
He has a right to do so. But he is still a POS. |
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Posted: 1/7/2017 2:20:10 AM EDT
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Douchebag but it's entertaining to watch him troll liberals
https://twitter.com/MartinShkreli/status/804774661984841730 |
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Posted: 1/7/2017 2:29:49 AM EDT
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Douchebag but it's entertaining to watch him troll liberals https://twitter.com/MartinShkreli/status/804774661984841730 Yes he is. I followed him for a bit. But he's annoying as fuck. |
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Posted: 1/7/2017 2:31:13 AM EDT
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Sorry, but this is the one thing that I fully support pricing regulations for. Sorry, but that doesn't address the real problem or present a decent answer. The problem here is the FDA and our fucked up drug laws. There's no patent that keeping other manufacturers from making it, its getting the FDA license. Theres plenty of other companies that already make this stuff for far cheaper in other countries, but our government puts miles of red tape in front of them before they can get a license for that particular drug, set up shop, and make it here. Heck, GSK and all those other companies already make daraprim overseas; they could import it for less...or we should be able to buy it legally from overseas. But of course, that would threaten the higher margins US pharmas can charge domestically. Hooray for regulatory capture. And rising healthcare costs. |
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Posted: 1/7/2017 2:32:14 AM EDT
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Lol. Lots of capitalists in this thread, i can tell. One guy does it with a troll look on his face and without a PR firm and everyone loses their minds.
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Posted: 1/7/2017 2:34:03 AM EDT
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Sorry, but that doesn't address the real problem or present a decent answer. The problem here is the FDA and our fucked up drug laws. There's no patent that keeping other manufacturers from making it, its getting the FDA license. Theres plenty of other companies that already make this stuff for far cheaper in other countries, but our government puts miles of red tape in front of them before they can get a license for that particular drug, set up shop, and make it here. Heck, GSK and all those other companies already make daraprim overseas; they could import it for less...or we should be able to buy it legally from overseas. But of course, that would threaten the higher margins US pharmas can charge domestically. Hooray for regulatory capture. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Sorry, but this is the one thing that I fully support pricing regulations for. Sorry, but that doesn't address the real problem or present a decent answer. The problem here is the FDA and our fucked up drug laws. There's no patent that keeping other manufacturers from making it, its getting the FDA license. Theres plenty of other companies that already make this stuff for far cheaper in other countries, but our government puts miles of red tape in front of them before they can get a license for that particular drug, set up shop, and make it here. Heck, GSK and all those other companies already make daraprim overseas; they could import it for less...or we should be able to buy it legally from overseas. But of course, that would threaten the higher margins US pharmas can charge domestically. Hooray for regulatory capture. Wow I'm amazed one person in this thread bothered to look up the facts associated with this particular scenario. |
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Posted: 1/7/2017 2:45:08 AM EDT
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Sorry, but that doesn't address the real problem or present a decent answer. The problem here is the FDA and our fucked up drug laws. There's no patent that keeping other manufacturers from making it, its getting the FDA license. Theres plenty of other companies that already make this stuff for far cheaper in other countries, but our government puts miles of red tape in front of them before they can get a license for that particular drug, set up shop, and make it here. Heck, GSK and all those other companies already make daraprim overseas; they could import it for less...or we should be able to buy it legally from overseas. But of course, that would threaten the higher margins US pharmas can charge domestically. Hooray for regulatory capture. And rising healthcare costs. Was unaware the patent was expired or not existing. While the US market and the barriers to entry present their own problems. It takes $ to enter and people either don't understand that or are commie FSA. A big problem with this situation is if the price had never been changed and no one competed. No one would be bitching about his price increase. |
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Posted: 1/7/2017 2:47:01 AM EDT
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he's a brat, but I cant help but like the guy.
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Posted: 1/7/2017 2:50:25 AM EDT
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Sorry, but that doesn't address the real problem or present a decent answer. The problem here is the FDA and our fucked up drug laws. There's no patent that keeping other manufacturers from making it, its getting the FDA license. Theres plenty of other companies that already make this stuff for far cheaper in other countries, but our government puts miles of red tape in front of them before they can get a license for that particular drug, set up shop, and make it here. Heck, GSK and all those other companies already make daraprim overseas; they could import it for less...or we should be able to buy it legally from overseas. But of course, that would threaten the higher margins US pharmas can charge domestically. Hooray for regulatory capture. And rising healthcare costs. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Sorry, but this is the one thing that I fully support pricing regulations for. Sorry, but that doesn't address the real problem or present a decent answer. The problem here is the FDA and our fucked up drug laws. There's no patent that keeping other manufacturers from making it, its getting the FDA license. Theres plenty of other companies that already make this stuff for far cheaper in other countries, but our government puts miles of red tape in front of them before they can get a license for that particular drug, set up shop, and make it here. Heck, GSK and all those other companies already make daraprim overseas; they could import it for less...or we should be able to buy it legally from overseas. But of course, that would threaten the higher margins US pharmas can charge domestically. Hooray for regulatory capture. And rising healthcare costs. No shit. Nowhere did I say pricing regulation is the only answer to the problem of our out of control drug prices, but I should have made my position a bit more clear. Look, all that other stuff is nice, but changing our shit laws around drugs in this country has proved nigh impossible. My position is that IF we can get some bills with reasonable regulations and drug certification processes made to replace our current system with something not so horrible I'm more than happy to see such a legislative measure pass. Until then however the only other solution I see is pricing regulation. Though in the case of Daraprim the problem of ridiculous price gouging was solved by Imprimis' replacement drug, but thats not going to happen everytime a pharmaceutical company tries that shit. Thats why we need safegaurds (i.e. pricing regulations) against that kind of BS until our system is fixed, if ever. As a bit of an aside for anyone interested, I found in interesting article that covers some finer points of this subject. Not agreeing or disagreeing (yet) with its contents, but I think its worth a read for anyone wanting to learn more the issue of drug pricing. Link to article. |
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Posted: 1/7/2017 3:02:02 AM EDT
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Was it? Do you think that other pharma companies don't raise prices? Should Daraprim, a drug discovered in 1952, with shitty side effects, continue to be prescribed? Or should someone put their foot down and try to research an alternative? If Daraprim sells for $1 a pill, there isn't any profit margin to use towards new drug research that costs tens of millions of dollars. If it sells for $1 a pill, why on earth would Merck or Pfizer have an incentive to enter the market for that drug to compete? These are questions that should be asked, and when you find the answers, you'll see that the media's case against Shkreli was baseless and emotion-filled. Also, it wasn't extortion when the insurance companies were eating the cost anyway. An insured patient didn't see a damn thing change, but if they did, Turing pharma actually has a patient assistance program for Daraprim so that you can pay a low or no cost for it. 
If Exxon decided to own all the refineries and increase it's margin to $5.00 a gallon you'd be on here throwing a fit. If one pill is $1 and it's a 25mg pill, you can do the math on what a kilo cost and then laugh at yourself for actually thinking there isn't a hefty profit in that and it costs anywhere near that amount to produce one kilo of an old malaria drug. This is why we don't let libertarians have anything, they'd get themselves killed and descend society into chaos. We have to share this country with leftist and their answer to you is Obama care, way to fucking go with your brilliant ideas. |
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Posted: 1/7/2017 3:02:51 AM EDT
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No shit. Nowhere did I say pricing regulation is the only answer to the problem of our out of control drug prices, but I should have made my position a bit more clear. Look, all that other stuff is nice, but changing our shit laws around drugs in this country has proved nigh impossible. My position is that IF we can get some bills with reasonable regulations and drug certification processes made to replace our current system with something not so horrible I'm more than happy to see such a legislative measure pass. Until then however the only other solution I see is pricing regulation. Though in the case of Daraprim the problem of ridiculous price gouging was solved by Imprimis' replacement drug, but thats not going to happen everytime a pharmaceutical company tries that shit. Thats why we need safegaurds (i.e. pricing regulations) against that kind of BS until our system is fixed, if ever. As a bit of an aside for anyone interested, I found in interesting article that covers some finer points of this subject. Not agreeing or disagreeing (yet) with its contents, but I think its worth a read for anyone wanting to learn more the issue of drug pricing. Link to article. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Sorry, but this is the one thing that I fully support pricing regulations for. Sorry, but that doesn't address the real problem or present a decent answer. The problem here is the FDA and our fucked up drug laws. There's no patent that keeping other manufacturers from making it, its getting the FDA license. Theres plenty of other companies that already make this stuff for far cheaper in other countries, but our government puts miles of red tape in front of them before they can get a license for that particular drug, set up shop, and make it here. Heck, GSK and all those other companies already make daraprim overseas; they could import it for less...or we should be able to buy it legally from overseas. But of course, that would threaten the higher margins US pharmas can charge domestically. Hooray for regulatory capture. And rising healthcare costs. No shit. Nowhere did I say pricing regulation is the only answer to the problem of our out of control drug prices, but I should have made my position a bit more clear. Look, all that other stuff is nice, but changing our shit laws around drugs in this country has proved nigh impossible. My position is that IF we can get some bills with reasonable regulations and drug certification processes made to replace our current system with something not so horrible I'm more than happy to see such a legislative measure pass. Until then however the only other solution I see is pricing regulation. Though in the case of Daraprim the problem of ridiculous price gouging was solved by Imprimis' replacement drug, but thats not going to happen everytime a pharmaceutical company tries that shit. Thats why we need safegaurds (i.e. pricing regulations) against that kind of BS until our system is fixed, if ever. As a bit of an aside for anyone interested, I found in interesting article that covers some finer points of this subject. Not agreeing or disagreeing (yet) with its contents, but I think its worth a read for anyone wanting to learn more the issue of drug pricing. Link to article. You again! Amazing that you showed up just in time to bitch about the departure of obamacare and avoid all questions related to why you are unable to secure some form of insurance, through an employer for example, that would prevent other people from having to pay for your ass. Have a nice stay here. 
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Posted: 1/7/2017 3:04:58 AM EDT
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In this thread, the actual libertarians separate themselves from Natural law, and the globalist Cabal of hypocritical dipshits of any stripe. Dude only moved in, because competition was eliminated through regulation. He's a goddamned Coyote. He exists, because he was invited. Go ahead, demand more regulation, and bitch about Coyotes. |
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Posted: 1/7/2017 3:12:33 AM EDT
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Not my circus, not my monkeys. I don't like or dislike him but I do find it fascinating that he lives rent free in so many heads.
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Posted: 1/7/2017 3:14:25 AM EDT
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You again! Amazing that you showed up just in time to bitch about the departure of obamacare and avoid all questions related to why you are unable to secure some form of insurance, through an employer for example, that would prevent other people from having to pay for your ass. Have a nice stay here. Amazing that you showed up to bring up something totally irrelevant to this threads topic just to bitch about me.
I will, thank you very much.
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Posted: 1/7/2017 3:27:14 AM EDT
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Amazing that you showed up to bring up something totally irrelevant to this threads topic just to bitch about me.
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You again! Amazing that you showed up just in time to bitch about the departure of obamacare and avoid all questions related to why you are unable to secure some form of insurance, through an employer for example, that would prevent other people from having to pay for your ass. Have a nice stay here. Amazing that you showed up to bring up something totally irrelevant to this threads topic just to bitch about me.
I will, thank you very much. Excellent. Looking forward to reading your fascinating discourse as you are paying for your own shit very soon.
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Posted: 1/7/2017 3:29:30 AM EDT
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GD, where neckbearding and reselling ammo and hard to find guns is 'capitalism,' but when someone does that with a drug, he's an evil bastard.
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Posted: 1/7/2017 3:38:10 AM EDT
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No shit. Nowhere did I say pricing regulation is the only answer to the problem of our out of control drug prices, but I should have made my position a bit more clear. Look, all that other stuff is nice, but changing our shit laws around drugs in this country has proved nigh impossible. My position is that IF we can get some bills with reasonable regulations and drug certification processes made to replace our current system with something not so horrible I'm more than happy to see such a legislative measure pass. Until then however the only other solution I see is pricing regulation. Though in the case of Daraprim the problem of ridiculous price gouging was solved by Imprimis' replacement drug, but thats not going to happen everytime a pharmaceutical company tries that shit. Thats why we need safegaurds (i.e. pricing regulations) against that kind of BS until our system is fixed, if ever. As a bit of an aside for anyone interested, I found in interesting article that covers some finer points of this subject. Not agreeing or disagreeing (yet) with its contents, but I think its worth a read for anyone wanting to learn more the issue of drug pricing. Link to article. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Sorry, but this is the one thing that I fully support pricing regulations for. Sorry, but that doesn't address the real problem or present a decent answer. The problem here is the FDA and our fucked up drug laws. There's no patent that keeping other manufacturers from making it, its getting the FDA license. Theres plenty of other companies that already make this stuff for far cheaper in other countries, but our government puts miles of red tape in front of them before they can get a license for that particular drug, set up shop, and make it here. Heck, GSK and all those other companies already make daraprim overseas; they could import it for less...or we should be able to buy it legally from overseas. But of course, that would threaten the higher margins US pharmas can charge domestically. Hooray for regulatory capture. And rising healthcare costs. No shit. Nowhere did I say pricing regulation is the only answer to the problem of our out of control drug prices, but I should have made my position a bit more clear. Look, all that other stuff is nice, but changing our shit laws around drugs in this country has proved nigh impossible. My position is that IF we can get some bills with reasonable regulations and drug certification processes made to replace our current system with something not so horrible I'm more than happy to see such a legislative measure pass. Until then however the only other solution I see is pricing regulation. Though in the case of Daraprim the problem of ridiculous price gouging was solved by Imprimis' replacement drug, but thats not going to happen everytime a pharmaceutical company tries that shit. Thats why we need safegaurds (i.e. pricing regulations) against that kind of BS until our system is fixed, if ever. As a bit of an aside for anyone interested, I found in interesting article that covers some finer points of this subject. Not agreeing or disagreeing (yet) with its contents, but I think its worth a read for anyone wanting to learn more the issue of drug pricing. Link to article. Did you get ass fucked by a hobo without a condom? It kinda sounds like you might be regretting that. Finding cures for getting ass fucked by a hobo can be expensive. |
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Posted: 1/7/2017 3:42:43 AM EDT
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Was it? Do you think that other pharma companies don't raise prices? Should Daraprim, a drug discovered in 1952, with shitty side effects, continue to be prescribed? Or should someone put their foot down and try to research an alternative? If Daraprim sells for $1 a pill, there isn't any profit margin to use towards new drug research that costs tens of millions of dollars. If it sells for $1 a pill, why on earth would Merck or Pfizer have an incentive to enter the market for that drug to compete? These are questions that should be asked, and when you find the answers, you'll see that the media's case against Shkreli was baseless and emotion-filled. Also, it wasn't extortion when the insurance companies were eating the cost anyway. An insured patient didn't see a damn thing change, but if they did, Turing pharma actually has a patient assistance program for Daraprim so that you can pay a low or no cost for it. Are you saying he did what he did to foster research for a new treatment because I don't believe that to be the case. 
He's just a snotty little douchebag. |
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Posted: 1/7/2017 3:47:36 AM EDT
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Lol. Lots of capitalists in this thread, i can tell. One guy does it with a troll look on his face and without a PR firm and everyone loses their minds. There is nothing free market about the pharmaceutical industry in this country. The FDA makes it so. |
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Posted: 1/7/2017 3:59:01 AM EDT
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Sorry, but this is the one thing that I fully support pricing regulations for. Sorry, but that doesn't address the real problem or present a decent answer. The problem here is the FDA and our fucked up drug laws. There's no patent that keeping other manufacturers from making it, its getting the FDA license. Theres plenty of other companies that already make this stuff for far cheaper in other countries, but our government puts miles of red tape in front of them before they can get a license for that particular drug, set up shop, and make it here. Heck, GSK and all those other companies already make daraprim overseas; they could import it for less...or we should be able to buy it legally from overseas. But of course, that would threaten the higher margins US pharmas can charge domestically. Hooray for regulatory capture. And rising healthcare costs. No shit. Nowhere did I say pricing regulation is the only answer to the problem of our out of control drug prices, but I should have made my position a bit more clear. Look, all that other stuff is nice, but changing our shit laws around drugs in this country has proved nigh impossible. My position is that IF we can get some bills with reasonable regulations and drug certification processes made to replace our current system with something not so horrible I'm more than happy to see such a legislative measure pass. Until then however the only other solution I see is pricing regulation. Though in the case of Daraprim the problem of ridiculous price gouging was solved by Imprimis' replacement drug, but thats not going to happen everytime a pharmaceutical company tries that shit. Thats why we need safegaurds (i.e. pricing regulations) against that kind of BS until our system is fixed, if ever. As a bit of an aside for anyone interested, I found in interesting article that covers some finer points of this subject. Not agreeing or disagreeing (yet) with its contents, but I think its worth a read for anyone wanting to learn more the issue of drug pricing. Link to article. Did you get ass fucked by a hobo without a condom? It kinda sounds like you might be regretting that. Finding cures for getting ass fucked by a hobo can be expensive. Do you have anything useful to say? Is all you can come up with some petty grade-school level personal attacks? You could have tried something like presenting actual evidence to counter my position, or addressing my points with reasoned/well thought out responses exrpressing your opinion of the matter but instead you chose to act like a petulant child. I'm perfectly willing to have a rational discussion about this, but you just seem butt-hurt that I don't believe in laissez faire capitalism.
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Posted: 1/7/2017 3:59:31 AM EDT
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People like him (of which there are many) will not realize the true consequences of their greed and narcissism until they are judged by God. By then it will be too late to apologize and beg for forgiveness.
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