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Posted: 3/15/2017 4:06:56 PM EDT
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They do it because life sucks less when you're high. That's the damn truth. |
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Posted: 3/15/2017 4:13:16 PM EDT
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That's the damn truth. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They do it because it feels like life sucks less when you're high. That's the damn truth. FTFY The junkies I've run into over the years have had the most drama-filled, problem-ridden lives of anyone I've met. The more their life sucks, the more they need to get high to forget about the problems they've brought on, instead of dealing with them. They then generally proceed to destroy the lives of those around them in order to maintain their view through rose-colored opiate glasses. |
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Posted: 3/15/2017 4:14:18 PM EDT
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^^^ This Most just assume a story about a person in their head when everybody's different. My brother in law was an addict. He was diagnosed with an auto immune disorder with his digestive system, docs kept telling them they didn't know how to treat it, kept prescribing him pain pills for the pain. After awhile the prescrips ran out, turned to heroin and snorted it once since he was told it was so close to being the same thing as a pain pill. One thing led to another and was a full blown addict, stealing from family, OD'd 3 times, almost died. Failed rehab once, the 2nd time he went voluntarily, got clean. Had trouble with alcohol after rehab the 2nd time, finally clean of alcohol and drugs and picking up the pieces of destroying relationships, ect. While it's his own fault, you can't help but feel for him. A lot of people want to get help/clean, but like others have said, the avoidance of withdrawal is a huge motivator in not getting clean. Lol...no fuck a junkie, fuck their lying , thieving , whiny, blame everybody else asses...it is their fault and I won't help them...told my garbage brother this...if you are weak and "help" you are an enabler. They will either fix themselves or die |
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Posted: 3/15/2017 4:18:08 PM EDT
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Ban narcan. Bounties on the pusher man's head. Severed only. Preload the free handout needles with HIV & HepC. Do a Project Eldest Son variant with heroin by spiking 10% of random doses with a healthy dose Carfentanil. fuck the bolded..years of taxpayer (my) money before they die? Just load up strychnine and be done with the pos |
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Posted: 3/15/2017 4:26:17 PM EDT
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I've lost a couple friends to OD'ing, and another recently who hung himself because of his shame over his addiction. Took dental records to ID him after hunters discovered him 
Recently ran into an old friend who was actually boasting that it took 3 narcans to bring him back. 
A few weeks ago a couple county sheriff departments were warning of finding fentynal-laced weed. This shit is killing our people. Lol, i disown anyone who is a useless piece of shit...you may find your life much better if you did the same |
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Posted: 3/15/2017 4:30:50 PM EDT
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Stupid backwards imbeciles seems to pop out of the womb with self-destructive tendencies. Sickening. I love that part of the state, but I can't hardly stand to ride my motorcycle through it anymore for all the trash and drug scum....dependency and self-loathing are an ugly fucking thing.
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Posted: 3/15/2017 4:31:01 PM EDT
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If the country was really serious about the war on drugs, we would start executing drug dealers on a massive scale. or ..just legalize and tax the fuck out of it..assholes are still going to od, at least the gov can make a buck and the corner gold tooth fucks will be out of work |
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Posted: 3/15/2017 4:33:31 PM EDT
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But, but, but... My looney libertarian friends claim dope is a victimless crime... I always ask them "Would you surrender *YOUR* daughter to such a victimless crime"??? it is a choice..a retarded choice but still theirs to make I love my 11 yo daughter with all my heart ...if it comes to it..i will disown her as well I have already started talking to her about losers and stupid things one can do to join that club |
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Posted: 3/15/2017 4:35:17 PM EDT
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probably an irrational fear, but I get the creeps when I go out to eat when back in OH to visit my wife's family. How many of these people prepping my food are addicts that have Hep C, HIV or some other disease?  that is the entire restaurant industry...forever |
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Posted: 3/15/2017 4:39:35 PM EDT
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That's the damn truth. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They do it because life sucks less when you're high. That's the damn truth. |
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Posted: 3/15/2017 4:40:13 PM EDT
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fuck the bolded..years of taxpayer (my) money before they die? Just load up strychnine and be done with the pos Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Ban narcan. Bounties on the pusher man's head. Severed only. Preload the free handout needles with HIV & HepC. Do a Project Eldest Son variant with heroin by spiking 10% of random doses with a healthy dose Carfentanil. fuck the bolded..years of taxpayer (my) money before they die? Just load up strychnine and be done with the pos |
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Posted: 3/15/2017 4:46:20 PM EDT
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If Heroin was legal, and that all that you could get was "lab grade" at a drug store, far less people would die from it...  I wouldn't care ..because at least the dealers would have to find a new job |
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Posted: 3/15/2017 4:47:23 PM EDT
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Its been almost a year since 8 hillbilly drug dealers got snuffed in the middle of the night over that way. I wonder where that case is going??? Last I heard was no leads, and the family wanted to keep the autopsy results private. |
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Posted: 3/15/2017 4:51:33 PM EDT
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but you have the Portsmouth Brewing Company and the Scioto Ribber....at least you have that going for you  Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Portsmouth is worse. Scioto co. is worse. I hate this place. but you have the Portsmouth Brewing Company and the Scioto Ribber....at least you have that going for you Mmmmm the Ribber. May have to go there for lunch tomorrow. 
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Posted: 3/15/2017 4:53:54 PM EDT
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Lol, i disown anyone who is a useless piece of shit...you may find your life much better if you did the same I would usually take the same tact, but this hits close to home. The dude who hung himself I knew for 30+ years, and I coach his 10 year old daughters softball team. I dated his sister for 3 years. Just did work on his parents roof. |
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Posted: 3/15/2017 4:57:48 PM EDT
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I would usually take the same tact, but this hits close to home. The dude who hung himself I knew for 30+ years, and I coach his 10 year old daughters softball team. I dated his sister for 3 years. Just did work on his parents roof. see my post..I did it to my brother...you cannot save them |
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Posted: 3/15/2017 5:04:31 PM EDT
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I grew up close to there. The thing I don't understand is how people are fucking dumb enough to stick a needle with a mystery concoction in it in their arm and push down the plunger. Pills, weed, coke, I can understand the desire. But heroin, WTF??? You don't do heroin for the "fun" of it. You do heroin because you are already addicted to opioids and there is no alternative to get them. Telling a junky to stop doing it is like telling you and me to stop taking shits for a month. Their bodies won't let them. |
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Posted: 3/15/2017 5:04:47 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/15/2017 5:08:36 PM EDT
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They do it because life sucks less when you're high. You don't get into destructive, hard drugs because you're trying to numb the realities of life, unless you're SERIOUSLY scrambled. This is the blooming of a flower that was sewn in chaos and neglect. Beer & weed numb the suck of life. Heroin & meth takes your pain away. People who go down that road are already self-destructive. About 95% of the people I ever counseled that got into needles and spoons had some serious family issues, and came from pure fucked up childhoods. |
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Posted: 3/15/2017 5:11:30 PM EDT
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self-correcting problem It would be, but remember, It takes a village to save a junkie. "Never let a crisis go to waste" is a mantra for both parties. |
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Posted: 3/15/2017 5:13:06 PM EDT
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You don't get into destructive, hard drugs because you're trying to numb the realities of life, unless you're SERIOUSLY scrambled. This is the blooming of a flower that was sewn in chaos and neglect. Beer & weed numb the suck of life. Heroin & meth takes your pain away. People who go down that road are already self-destructive. About 95% of the people I ever counseled that got into needles and spoons had some serious family issues, and came from pure fucked up childhoods. Have any success stories you can share? Thoughts on methadone treatment? |
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Posted: 3/15/2017 5:14:05 PM EDT
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Meh, Ohio didn't even break the top 5...."The five states with the highest rates of death linked to drug overdose were West Virginia (41.5 per 100,000), New Hampshire (34.3 per 100,000), Kentucky (29.9 per 100,000), Ohio (29.9 per 100,000), and Rhode Island (28.2 per 100,000), according to the C.D.C." ... Heroin is a hell of a drug!!!
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Posted: 3/15/2017 5:14:13 PM EDT
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Looking to guide a family member.
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Posted: 3/15/2017 5:16:28 PM EDT
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Just blame the deepest pocket(s)....it's not the addict's fault. Rrrrright. Read about the law suit: http://theweek.com/articles/541564/how-american-opiate-epidemic-started-by-pharmaceutical-company Aloha, Mark i was not affixing blame, i was describing a process. |
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Posted: 3/15/2017 5:26:59 PM EDT
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probably an irrational fear, but I get the creeps when I go out to eat when back in OH to visit my wife's family. How many of these people prepping my food are addicts that have Hep C, HIV or some other disease? Sounds like you really ponied up for a good dinner. Lemme guess....Applebees? |
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Posted: 3/15/2017 5:34:08 PM EDT
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Church, many of you need it. It's all a big Darwin joke until it's your loved one. Addicted people only need to survive long enough to get clean. It's tragic when they don't. Thank you. |
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Posted: 3/15/2017 5:40:47 PM EDT
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Have any success stories you can share? Thoughts on methadone treatment? Not many come back from hard stuff, at least not until they go full bottom and end up in jail or so screwed up physically they have nowhere else to go. I had a few respond to treatment...but in full confessional I didn't deal with the hard cases as much and it was a number of years ago before heroin really ravaged my county. Most of my stories involve booze, but the other counselors the addiction professionals in the clinic talked alot about those. Methodone is management, not a cure....it tends to have better results than detox, but it's just a tool. Ultimately it's all subjective and depends more on the psychology and stage the addict is at, and any underlying mental issues they're going through. I still keep in contact with some people I worked through treatment with, one is a girl who was so down the rabbit hole I was pretty sure she was gone. She lost her kids, jobs, was down to B&E and selling to keep herself going. Got busted over and over, family cut her off...but she willed herself into better situations and she put herself together again. She goes to my brother's church now where he's a deacon and I hear about her a lot. She's doing really well, all things considered. She's trying to reconcile with her family but she sees her kids and has made some big progress with them. But, for every one like here there are 5x as many that just don't get better. |
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Posted: 3/15/2017 5:44:29 PM EDT
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I've lost a couple friends to OD'ing, and another recently who hung himself because of his shame over his addiction. Took dental records to ID him after hunters discovered him <img src="http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/icon_smile_dissapprove.gif" /> Recently ran into an old friend who was actually<i><i> boasting</i></i> that it took 3 narcans to bring him back. <img src="http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/smiley_freak.gif" /> A few weeks ago a couple county sheriff departments were warning of finding fentynal-laced weed. This shit is killing our people. Do you ever wonder if other nations are making this happen with the intent to cause America's decay? All those logistics involved getting the powerful narcotics here make sense if you consider the possibility of a minor-player State lending support. Especially one who is ideologically opposed to our basic beliefs as a nation. |
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Posted: 3/15/2017 5:49:36 PM EDT
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Brought to you by WoR!
War on Drugs! We just need to spend another trillon dollar$ and we'll win this war! |
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Posted: 3/15/2017 5:53:32 PM EDT
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Thanks for the time to write that reply |
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Posted: 3/15/2017 5:59:18 PM EDT
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I get the addiction but I can't understand that first time, somehow thinking its a good idea.. I'm sure it feels like a million bucks, which is why I'll never touch it. |
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Posted: 3/15/2017 5:59:53 PM EDT
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I have no idea. The last facility I worked at it heroin was a big problem. We'd find stamped bags in the parking lot, in the break rooms, in the bathrooms. We'd give it to the cops and that's about it. Union didn't want cameras and the old timers just said fire all the youngins that are doing it and we'll pretend like there's nothing to grieve. Had to escort out more than one kid who was high as hell and take them for drug testing. The thing was the place I worked at paid well, had decent insurance, and offered a lot in the grand scheme of things in that area but these kids (OK, mostly early 20 somethings) were doing it like it was candy. Some told me about old sports injuries from high school football that plagued them and others simply said it was what their friends were doing. None of them had super high aspirations in life hence why they were working where they were (which again, wasn't horrible but you didn't need to have a college degree to do it so it must be bad right?). Mental issues more than anything else were probably the root cause. One kid came in one day and dumped syringes on my desk saying I needed to get that stuff away from him. He went to rehab after he stole money with his father one of the local cops and then OD'd. That blows my contention out of the water. I was sure that the rise in drug abuse is the result of factories/mining leaving the rural middle of the country. Maybe it's always been like this but alcohol won't kill you like H... 
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Posted: 3/15/2017 5:59:59 PM EDT
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No duh. Ross County is all fucked up.
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Posted: 3/15/2017 6:10:22 PM EDT
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naltrexone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCgOQwWR5Ik |
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Posted: 3/15/2017 6:14:21 PM EDT
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Ban Narcan, where do I sign the petition?
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Posted: 3/15/2017 6:28:38 PM EDT
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Church, many of you need it. It's all a big Darwin joke until it's your loved one. Addicted people only need to survive long enough to get clean. It's tragic when they don't. I see your point but how many addicts get clean and stay that way? Out the few I know they all but one relapse and lie about it. Some people will always be addicts and you can't help them. I can certainly see how anyone that has been around addicts can become jaded and stop giving a damn. A good friend of mine from way back always calls and needs help (aka money). I'll give him a ride to his family's or to his job and buy him something to eat provided I have time but that's as far as my support extends. I don't want him around me or my family and I'm not naive enough to think he'll ever change his ways. |
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Posted: 3/15/2017 6:39:27 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/15/2017 7:04:11 PM EDT
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probably an irrational fear, but I get the creeps when I go out to eat when back in OH to visit my wife's family. How many of these people prepping my food are addicts that have Hep C, HIV or some other disease? Not an irrational fear. And while I can't speak for your area , here in GA , many in the food industry are addicts of one type or another . And have the diseases you listed and more . gd |
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Posted: 3/15/2017 7:06:03 PM EDT
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https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/398018/20170315-164837-166347.JPG Hopefully this triggers at least one person I know who the most important guy at the party will be tonight! |
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Posted: 3/15/2017 7:10:22 PM EDT
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They've cracked down on the pills, so heroin is a cheap and available alternative to those already hooked on pain pills. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Pills, weed, coke, I can understand the desire. But heroin, WTF??? They've cracked down on the pills, so heroin is a cheap and available alternative to those already hooked on pain pills. Exactly. Federal (DEA) and state level regulations which have tightened the controls on opioid class pain killers in recent years - controls which were designed to stem abuse and curb the black market - have been very successful, and, unfortunately, they have had the side effect of creating a booming market for heroin. Hence the spreading epidemic you are seeing now. Ohio, overall, has an enormous problem with pain medication addiction BTW. |
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Posted: 3/15/2017 7:18:48 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/15/2017 7:19:08 PM EDT
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Mmmmm the Ribber. May have to go there for lunch tomorrow. The ribs I got to go from there were good. Dick's Pizza was great too, it's a shame they shut down. I've never been to Hickie's though, people always talk about how good their burgers are. |
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Posted: 3/15/2017 7:31:25 PM EDT
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If that girly-man homo idiot Kasickich were the governor of the Great Sunshine State of Florida. I'd be an addict too.....
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Posted: 3/15/2017 7:33:12 PM EDT
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ban Narcam. This, and stop bashing Sir. Darwin. |
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Posted: 3/15/2017 7:33:42 PM EDT
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If that girly-man homo idiot Kasickich were the governor of the Great Sunshine State of Florida. I'd be an addict too..... He's a national disaster, but he's been a good governor. He's signed several VERY pro-gun pieces of legislation, and has kept the BS from the statehouse to a minimum. A state can do one fuckton worse than that, man. |
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Posted: 3/15/2017 7:35:27 PM EDT
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Basically they all went from pain pills to heroin, with predictable results. I kind of feel sorry for the parents (in some cases). Bad situation all the way around. I hadn't thought about that, but they did clean out a lot of the pill mill doctors from southern Ohio a few years back. |
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Posted: 3/15/2017 7:40:56 PM EDT
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He's a national disaster, but he's been a good governor. He's signed several VERY pro-gun pieces of legislation, and has kept the BS from the statehouse to a minimum. A state can do one fuckton worse than that, man. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If that girly-man homo idiot Kasickich were the governor of the Great Sunshine State of Florida. I'd be an addict too..... He's a national disaster, but he's been a good governor. He's signed several VERY pro-gun pieces of legislation, and has kept the BS from the statehouse to a minimum. A state can do one fuckton worse than that, man. Point taken, I just don't respect the man an think he is a self-centered political trainwreck..... 
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Posted: 3/15/2017 7:58:36 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/15/2017 9:04:55 PM EDT
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If that girly-man homo idiot Kasickich were the governor of the Great Sunshine State of Florida. I'd be an addict too..... Still pissed you guys can't get open carry, huh? We've had open carry forever. Just expanded concealed carry to airports, campus, day cares. You enjoy your Governor. We'll enjoy our freedom. |
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Posted: 3/15/2017 9:09:47 PM EDT
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He's a national disaster, but he's been a good governor. He's signed several VERY pro-gun pieces of legislation, and has kept the BS from the statehouse to a minimum. A state can do one fuckton worse than that, man. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If that girly-man homo idiot Kasickich were the governor of the Great Sunshine State of Florida. I'd be an addict too..... He's a national disaster, but he's been a good governor. He's signed several VERY pro-gun pieces of legislation, and has kept the BS from the statehouse to a minimum. A state can do one fuckton worse than that, man. Yep. We can do a helluva lot worse than Kasich. |
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