Very sad all the way around.

They do, for opiates, marijuana, and barbiturates. But that's about it.

You must have missed the news articles last summer saying they were using carfentanil.  

lol, what? Schedule 1 is No Known Medical Use. Fentanyl has a known medical use, so....

I mean really. Try reading about a subject for a minute before spouting.

Wow.....small world

I've pulled patches out of people's mouths, removed 'too many' patches from Grandma in the nursing home, because the nurse didn't take the old one off, etc.

For those who say 'why does such a thing exist?' I hope no one you ever care about has cancer. 

Or patch form like the nicotine patches

Fentanyl is killing a lot of people.

People get addicted to pain pills, loose the prescription and buy pills from the street. Street pulls cost too much so they hit heroin. Dealers mix fentanyl with heroin to get a better high but people OD a lot because of it. NARCAN doesn't work as well on fentanyl as it did on heroin so now everyone has to buy the new and improved NARCAN.

NARCAN is a money grabbing racket.....my rant to the story.

1lbs of Fentanyl spread in the atmosphere over a city would kill an estimated 250,000 people. This stuff is dangerous.

Then they die doing what they love. Limit access to NARCAN, make it clear LEOs don't carry it, clean up the mess.

There are junkies that quit because they realize that they are the last person in their social circle who is still alive. That is the effect that we as a society should be encouraging, not that you can lead a consequence free existence and first responders will come save you when you OD for the 17th time.

There are much better drugs for cancer--or literally any other issue--than Fentanyl, such as Oxymorphone/Dilaudid/Opana. Fentanyl should be used in a hospital setting only, and never sent home with a patient IMO. There should be no patches; the patches are evil shit. No person should be on daily Fentanyl. It's short duration I believe is the reason that it produces a more rapid and severe dependence. Even if you were on your death bed and bed had to wean off of it, Opana would be a far more compassionate drug because it produces clean and powerful pain relief.

I believe the reason anesthesiologists use Fentanyl is because it is short acting and because it helps with sedation and amnesia better than other opiates. Patients don't take opiates at home for sedation or amnesia, they want pain relief.

Doesn't matter, synthetic opiods aren't generally tested for, and are undetectable in a day room two.

Parents just messed up their kids

I'm sure it has a use since my mom in her last days was on Fentanyl patches and while she was kind of out of it (at 94) it did keep her pain free.  There was not much wrong with her other than she was scared and in pain and her body was shutting down but taking it's own sweet time.  So I'm a fan.  If I get to that point slap a patch on me too.  Keep it in the system but use it where appropriate.

I don't really give a shit about the folks using it for fun but that sure is messed up for the kids.  Kind of the same old saw about "This is why you can't have nice things."

But we have to protect the kids from Satans tobacki.

sad I wonder if they got hooked through an opiate prescription.

If everyone thinks fentynal is bad, get ready cause we're starting to see this:

Carfentanil or carfentanyl (also known as 4-carbomethoxyfentanyl) is an analog of the synthetic opioid analgesic fentanyl. It is 10,000 times more potent than morphine, making it among the most potent commercially used opioids.[1] Carfentanil was first synthesized in 1974 by a team of chemists at Janssen Pharmaceutica which included Paul Janssen.[2] It is marketed under the trade name Wildnil as a general anaesthetic agent for large animals, such as elephants.

Cartels aren't the main culprits. The shit comes in by the boatload through NYC and other major ports from AFG, typically makes its way through Russia, before jumping on a cargo ship to the states. Poppy does not grow that well in central America, unlike Coca.

Huh?  A "blended" family is a single father with kids who gets together with a single mother with kids. It has nothing to do with race...but reading is for faggots.

Slightly worse than marijuana

It's the opposite:  Opium poppies can be grown virtually anywhere, whereas Coca is more limited.  Opium poppies have a long taproot (for an annual) which is why they can get by with very little precipitation.  This is one of the reasons it's grown in Afghanistan since it requires far less water and fertilizer than, say, corn.  Very little of the Afghan Heroin makes it to the U.S.  Most comes from Mexico and Columbia.  Back in the late 80's and early 90's it was mostly from Afghanistan but that has changed.

The future impact of this on the kids?! Probably detrimental.

The Ruskies killed some Chechen muzzy knuckleheads & some the hostages that they where holding with Fentanyl gas.

Pharms are touted as a medicine yet how many do they kill a year. It's over 50000
Aside from suicides associated with them. Some of these
Pills and patches are 100% more addictive than stinky nasty pot and much easier to consume. Theyre not only mentally addicting but physically as well. And unlike pot they will absolutely destroy your life.

I don't know the answer to the drug problem but the US keeping marijuana a schedule 1 substance after all these other legal and potentially horrible drugs are doing real damage to people and families. this is seen as less dangers to pot

Fentanyl patches are timed release medication, typically 48-72 hours.  Dilaudid, at least in a pill form is quick acting and shorter duration. Bone cancer is a unique pain that requires a unique pain killer.

The fentanyl "tablet" is a dissolvable lozenge that is absorbed by the oral mucosa.  Swallowed tablets don't work due to first pass metabolism of the drug.

Darwin in action - it's not just for poors.

At NNMC the anesthesiologists would waste leftover narcotic by squirting the syringes out into the large sharps container before tossing the syringe in.   That was their common practice until they caught a corpsman draining out the liquid at the bottom of the bin and shooting it up.

Holy cow, the dose is the danger.

To be fair that could be from anything, not necessarily smack.

Fentynal didn't claim anything.

Just an observation......

Damn, that's really kind of gross in addition to the danger.

Six years ago I awoke at 03:00. I had a burning pain in my heel. I go off to the ER to see what was wrong.  I had a heel spur and the Doctor wanted to prescribe Percocet for my pain.  I explained that opiates do not relieve my pain.  She suggested I get a cortisone shot the next day from my Primary Care Doctor.  I looked at her badge and told her she was an MD and to draw a cortisone shot up and get with it.

She did not give me cortisone.  She did however write a script for Percocet. I was livid.  I made the nurse show me that he shredded the damn script.

I reported her to my Primary Care Physician  and the DEA.  

This is how prescription drugs "leak" out of the normal channels. I could have made a house payment with the prescription she wrote were I a shit stain.

My son had a script for Lidocaine patches. His junkie neighbor thought they were fentnyl patches and stole one.  

Much hilarity ensued when he saw the guy chewing on it and his head went numb.

Title is wrong. fentanyl did not claim life of family. Who ever gave it did. Weather it was the husband, wife or both. It was a murder, suicide.  Thats like saying a gun claimed another life and not the one that pulled the trigger.

I am a Fire Rescue Firefighter/Paramedic I administer fentanyl often by IV as stated above it is 100 times stronger than morphine. You must monitor the patients breathing while giving it. fentanyl can cause the patient to go into respatory arrest if give to much at once or it just happens sometimes.  It is give in mics/weight dose.

That said fentanyl is great to use because it has far less side effects than morphine on patients and as long as you monitor that patient it is safe to give and use for pain. My wife was in a car accident once and I got the call. She was in alot of pain. I used fentanyl on her and gave it to her tillmher pain level was bearable.

In my time on the job there has been though one I know for sure and maybe another Firefighter/Paramedic that took fentanyl off duty that they stole. The way they got it. Once a vial is opened it has to be desposed of in front of a witness like a nurse. What they did was draw it out of vial and replace it with saline and threw that away.

Was it suicide or just stupidity who knows. Either way they went unconscious and stopped breathing and died from taking to much at once.  Narcan can reverse the effects of fentanyl.

But it's like any other pain med it has it's applications. I'm an absolute believer in the use of these drugs for chronic pain after all other resources have been tried. There is absolutely no reason someone should be in so much pain that they cannot function when there are drugs that can help with that pain.

Sure there will be people that abuse medication. People will abuse everything. Just like criminals abuse guns and the laws. So should everyone suffer because of these idiots. NO......yes they are addictive. But if you take them it is up to you to communicate with your doctor while on them instead of letting them control. I did and never had a problem with them.

Now it it chronic pain that you will be in for the rest of your life. Who cares if you get addicted to you the medication. As long as you take as prescribed. Which I have seen patients do. They wete able to function 100% better on the medication and deal with the pain they live with on a daily basis. Chronic oain is not funny it will ruin your life and in some cases has caused people to take their life. I've seen it.

I've had 4 back operations, total knee replacement and elbow surgery. I've been in so much pain I'd done anything to make it stop and no amount of therapy would have helped.  I'm doing great and never had a problem while taking them because I did exactly what I was suppose to do then stopped. Some pain is good it lets you know when your over doing it and you might be re injury yourself.

I had fentanyl during my last colonoscopy.  It worked great and it was the first time (this was colonoscopy  #3) I was alert and remembered everything that the doctor told me after it was over.   The time before this when I came to my senses I was already dressed and standing in the recovery area.  No more half day of winking in and out etc.  No "hangover" whatsoever.  I could have driven myself home if I had to.  It is a great drug when used properly.

Yet some people think it should be completely banned because of a few idiots

Sound familiar? Just like liberals and their view on guns.....

They gave me a shot of that when coming out of surgery that was pretty invasive.

Killed the pain for hours.  No doubt good for that.

Fentanyl is a life-saver for post op back surgery.  It's a wonderful tool to have in a physician's arsenal. Like anything else powerful, it must be handled carefully and can be abused.

those poor kiddos. that image is going to be burned in their minds for as long as they live. i hope they have some good family to step in and care for them

Damn that's rough for the kids.

I know what it means.  Real world use by real people says mj has real world medical use....stimulating apatite for cancer patients, pain relief, and cbd helps epileptics.

It has probably been very rough for them for quite some time now.

It's all over the place.

Portsmouth/Scioto County is supposed to have the worst problem in the state with it, but it's plenty bad all over.

Some morons my brother went to school with got some Heron laced with fentanyl from a guy in Toledo. Every single one of them OD'd on the street in front of the place. A couple of them nearly couldn't be revived.

You know where they wanted to go the very next day? Yep. To get the same shit. They're all lucky to be alive. Probably won't be for much longer.

Farr too many people take pain medication. There's a whole section in Walmart and drug stores devoted towards these products. Sadly this trek down addiction can even begin with Tylenol.

Beta-endorphins aren't just for pain.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3104618/

If they either smoked a fentanyl patch in a joint (it happens in the real world), or they experimentally injected an IV dose of fentanyl the equivalent volume to an IV morphine dose, the end result was predictable.

eta: now that cartels and other low life folks have learned to manufacture fentanyl, it is just as likely that the lack of standardized or metered dosing of street fentanyl was responsible for their demise.  If you don't know how much narc you're really injecting/ingesting you're playing roulette with more than one bullet in the gun.