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I'm waiting for some enterprising cartel to introduce sufentanil and up the ante. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Fentanyl is 100 times more powerful than morphine. It hits hard. ![]() ![]() |
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Ironically schedule 2, which means the feds think it is less bad for you than pot..... Edit. Cancer patients seem to think pot helps their situation....so same use as fentanyl (reduces suffering) View Quote I mean really. Try reading about a subject for a minute before spouting. |
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lol, what? Schedule 1 is No Known Medical Use. Fentanyl has a known medical use, so.... I mean really. Try reading about a subject for a minute before spouting. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Ironically schedule 2, which means the feds think it is less bad for you than pot..... Edit. Cancer patients seem to think pot helps their situation....so same use as fentanyl (reduces suffering) I mean really. Try reading about a subject for a minute before spouting. |
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Years back a buddy of mine needed some brush up training and a checkout in a multi twin. I rode along with him and the instructor, who was Brian. He'd just gotten hired at Spirit and seemed like a pretty squared away guy. I wonder what went wrong. Those poor kids. Damn. ![]() View Quote |
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I've pulled patches out of people's mouths, removed 'too many' patches from Grandma in the nursing home, because the nurse didn't take the old one off, etc.
For those who say 'why does such a thing exist?' I hope no one you ever care about has cancer. ![]() |
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Fentanyl is killing a lot of people.
People get addicted to pain pills, loose the prescription and buy pills from the street. Street pulls cost too much so they hit heroin. Dealers mix fentanyl with heroin to get a better high but people OD a lot because of it. NARCAN doesn't work as well on fentanyl as it did on heroin so now everyone has to buy the new and improved NARCAN. NARCAN is a money grabbing racket.....my rant to the story. |
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1lbs of Fentanyl spread in the atmosphere over a city would kill an estimated 250,000 people. This stuff is dangerous.
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People get addicted to pain pills, loose the prescription and buy pills from the street. Street pulls cost too much so they hit heroin. Dealers mix fentanyl with heroin to get a better high but people OD a lot because of it. NARCAN doesn't work as well on fentanyl as it did on heroin so now everyone has to buy the new and improved NARCAN. View Quote There are junkies that quit because they realize that they are the last person in their social circle who is still alive. That is the effect that we as a society should be encouraging, not that you can lead a consequence free existence and first responders will come save you when you OD for the 17th time. |
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I've pulled patches out of people's mouths, removed 'too many' patches from Grandma in the nursing home, because the nurse didn't take the old one off, etc. For those who say 'why does such a thing exist?' I hope no one you ever care about has cancer. ![]() View Quote I believe the reason anesthesiologists use Fentanyl is because it is short acting and because it helps with sedation and amnesia better than other opiates. Patients don't take opiates at home for sedation or amnesia, they want pain relief. |
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I'm sure it has a use since my mom in her last days was on Fentanyl patches and while she was kind of out of it (at 94) it did keep her pain free. There was not much wrong with her other than she was scared and in pain and her body was shutting down but taking it's own sweet time. So I'm a fan. If I get to that point slap a patch on me too. Keep it in the system but use it where appropriate.
I don't really give a shit about the folks using it for fun but that sure is messed up for the kids. Kind of the same old saw about "This is why you can't have nice things." ![]() |
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This is what happens when you outlaw Marijuana... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Fentanyl is 100 times more powerful than morphine. It hits hard. ![]() |
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sad I wonder if they got hooked through an opiate prescription.
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If everyone thinks fentynal is bad, get ready cause we're starting to see this:
Carfentanil or carfentanyl (also known as 4-carbomethoxyfentanyl) is an analog of the synthetic opioid analgesic fentanyl. It is 10,000 times more potent than morphine, making it among the most potent commercially used opioids.[1] Carfentanil was first synthesized in 1974 by a team of chemists at Janssen Pharmaceutica which included Paul Janssen.[2] It is marketed under the trade name Wildnil as a general anaesthetic agent for large animals, such as elephants. |
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LOL. Prescription. Most likely they were opiate addicts, probably pills, who switched to heroin/fentanyl as an easier-to-get replacement. Mexican cartels are bringing that shit in by the boatload. As another poster mentioned, dealers are cutting their shitty heroin with it to up the potency. View Quote |
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They are better than us. They embrace diversity. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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The future impact of this on the kids?! Probably detrimental.
The Ruskies killed some Chechen muzzy knuckleheads & some the hostages that they where holding with Fentanyl gas. |
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Pharms are touted as a medicine yet how many do they kill a year. It's over 50000
Aside from suicides associated with them. Some of these Pills and patches are 100% more addictive than stinky nasty pot and much easier to consume. Theyre not only mentally addicting but physically as well. And unlike pot they will absolutely destroy your life. I don't know the answer to the drug problem but the US keeping marijuana a schedule 1 substance after all these other legal and potentially horrible drugs are doing real damage to people and families. this is seen as less dangers to pot ![]() |
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There are much better drugs for cancer--or literally any other issue--than Fentanyl, such as Oxymorphone/Dilaudid/Opana. Fentanyl should be used in a hospital setting only, and never sent home with a patient IMO. There should be no patches; the patches are evil shit. No person should be on daily Fentanyl. It's short duration I believe is the reason that it produces a more rapid and severe dependence. Even if you were on your death bed and bed had to wean off of it, Opana would be a far more compassionate drug because it produces clean and powerful pain relief. I believe the reason anesthesiologists use Fentanyl is because it is short acting and because it helps with sedation and amnesia better than other opiates. Patients don't take opiates at home for sedation or amnesia, they want pain relief. View Quote |
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They probably did, but Fentanyl does come in pill form, legal or illegal manufacture. First pass is usually not desirable for drug users because the high isn't as fast or as good, but if that's all they can get, they get it. Legal Fentanyl tablet These killed a bunch of people in the beginning... Illegal Fentanyl pills View Quote |
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These people would lick out the inside of a septic tank if it had narcotics in it. View Quote ![]() |
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For those asking. Fentanyl is often mixed in with heroin to give the illusion of a stronger product. It gives a strong powerful high, is cheap as fuck, but the high doesn't last as long as heroin. Dealers will even mix hot batches, adding fentanyl to intentionally cause an overdose because the junkies hear about it and want to buy the product that caused an OD. And the ever popular photo. Fatal dose of heroin next to one for fentanyl: http://i.imgur.com/aLXGReO.jpg?1 View Quote ![]() |
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I've seen a hypodermic needle lying in the road in the next town over and it's a sleepy, upscale place. No neighborhood is immune. I hope this shit is a thing of the past before my kids come of age but I'm not counting on it being any better for them. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Not bullshit. Several times within the past few years I've been given news that people I knew growing up fatally od'd on heroin/opiates. These were suburban kids from normal upper/middle-class families. That shit is everywhere now. |
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At NNMC the anesthesiologists would waste leftover narcotic by squirting the syringes out into the large sharps container before tossing the syringe in. That was their common practice until they caught a corpsman draining out the liquid at the bottom of the bin and shooting it up. ![]() View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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These people would lick out the inside of a septic tank if it had narcotics in it. ![]() |
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Six years ago I awoke at 03:00. I had a burning pain in my heel. I go off to the ER to see what was wrong. I had a heel spur and the Doctor wanted to prescribe Percocet for my pain. I explained that opiates do not relieve my pain. She suggested I get a cortisone shot the next day from my Primary Care Doctor. I looked at her badge and told her she was an MD and to draw a cortisone shot up and get with it.
She did not give me cortisone. She did however write a script for Percocet. I was livid. I made the nurse show me that he shredded the damn script. I reported her to my Primary Care Physician and the DEA. This is how prescription drugs "leak" out of the normal channels. I could have made a house payment with the prescription she wrote were I a shit stain. |
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I've had patients in the hospital chew their patches. We usually find the masticated remains in their mouth when we are intubating them during the code View Quote Much hilarity ensued when he saw the guy chewing on it and his head went numb. |
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Title is wrong. fentanyl did not claim life of family. Who ever gave it did. Weather it was the husband, wife or both. It was a murder, suicide. Thats like saying a gun claimed another life and not the one that pulled the trigger.
I am a Fire Rescue Firefighter/Paramedic I administer fentanyl often by IV as stated above it is 100 times stronger than morphine. You must monitor the patients breathing while giving it. fentanyl can cause the patient to go into respatory arrest if give to much at once or it just happens sometimes. It is give in mics/weight dose. That said fentanyl is great to use because it has far less side effects than morphine on patients and as long as you monitor that patient it is safe to give and use for pain. My wife was in a car accident once and I got the call. She was in alot of pain. I used fentanyl on her and gave it to her tillmher pain level was bearable. In my time on the job there has been though one I know for sure and maybe another Firefighter/Paramedic that took fentanyl off duty that they stole. The way they got it. Once a vial is opened it has to be desposed of in front of a witness like a nurse. What they did was draw it out of vial and replace it with saline and threw that away. Was it suicide or just stupidity who knows. Either way they went unconscious and stopped breathing and died from taking to much at once. Narcan can reverse the effects of fentanyl. But it's like any other pain med it has it's applications. I'm an absolute believer in the use of these drugs for chronic pain after all other resources have been tried. There is absolutely no reason someone should be in so much pain that they cannot function when there are drugs that can help with that pain. Sure there will be people that abuse medication. People will abuse everything. Just like criminals abuse guns and the laws. So should everyone suffer because of these idiots. NO......yes they are addictive. But if you take them it is up to you to communicate with your doctor while on them instead of letting them control. I did and never had a problem with them. Now it it chronic pain that you will be in for the rest of your life. Who cares if you get addicted to you the medication. As long as you take as prescribed. Which I have seen patients do. They wete able to function 100% better on the medication and deal with the pain they live with on a daily basis. Chronic oain is not funny it will ruin your life and in some cases has caused people to take their life. I've seen it. I've had 4 back operations, total knee replacement and elbow surgery. I've been in so much pain I'd done anything to make it stop and no amount of therapy would have helped. I'm doing great and never had a problem while taking them because I did exactly what I was suppose to do then stopped. Some pain is good it lets you know when your over doing it and you might be re injury yourself. |
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Fentanyl is an opiate, like morphine. Hits faster and much harder but goes away faster. It is used in the operating room by anesthesia mostly. Cancer patients also receive it in various forms (patches, etc.) In the ICU it is used as an infusion for critically ill patients. View Quote |
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I had fentanyl during my last colonoscopy. It worked great and it was the first time (this was colonoscopy #3) I was alert and remembered everything that the doctor told me after it was over. The time before this when I came to my senses I was already dressed and standing in the recovery area. No more half day of winking in and out etc. No "hangover" whatsoever. I could have driven myself home if I had to. It is a great drug when used properly. View Quote Sound familiar? Just like liberals and their view on guns..... |
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Yet some people think it should be completely banned because of a few idiots Sound familiar? Just like liberals and their view on guns..... View Quote Killed the pain for hours. No doubt good for that. |
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Fentanyl is a life-saver for post op back surgery. It's a wonderful tool to have in a physician's arsenal. Like anything else powerful, it must be handled carefully and can be abused.
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those poor kiddos. that image is going to be burned in their minds for as long as they live. i hope they have some good family to step in and care for them
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There are much better drugs for cancer--or literally any other issue--than Fentanyl, such as Oxymorphone/Dilaudid/Opana. Fentanyl should be used in a hospital setting only, and never sent home with a patient IMO. There should be no patches; the patches are evil shit. No person should be on daily Fentanyl. It's short duration I believe is the reason that it produces a more rapid and severe dependence. Even if you were on your death bed and bed had to wean off of it, Opana would be a far more compassionate drug because it produces clean and powerful pain relief. I believe the reason anesthesiologists use Fentanyl is because it is short acting and because it helps with sedation and amnesia better than other opiates. Patients don't take opiates at home for sedation or amnesia, they want pain relief. View Quote It's a fine medicine when used properly. Don't take it away from the patients who benefit from it, just because of a few idiots who off themselves. |
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lol, what? Schedule 1 is No Known Medical Use. Fentanyl has a known medical use, so.... I mean really. Try reading about a subject for a minute before spouting. View Quote |
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Update: Jacob Castor, the former husband of Courtney Hayle, died in Aug. 2007 from an accident drug overdose, according to the Montgomery County Coroner’s Office.
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Damn, this happened right up the road from me. I thought Chillicothe was supposed to be the bad area? Centerville is actually a nice area. Just ate some City BBQ there last weekend. View Quote Portsmouth/Scioto County is supposed to have the worst problem in the state with it, but it's plenty bad all over. Some morons my brother went to school with got some Heron laced with fentanyl from a guy in Toledo. Every single one of them OD'd on the street in front of the place. A couple of them nearly couldn't be revived. You know where they wanted to go the very next day? Yep. To get the same shit. They're all lucky to be alive. Probably won't be for much longer. |
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Farr too many people take pain medication. There's a whole section in Walmart and drug stores devoted towards these products. Sadly this trek down addiction can even begin with Tylenol.
Non-opioid medications affect plasma beta-endorphin levels through unknown mechanisms. In a study of osteoarthritis of the knee, both acetaminophen and rofecoxib (a COX-2 inhibitor) were administered to patients with symptomatic osteoarthritis. Rofecoxib produced significantly better analgesia than acetaminophen, reducing pain intensity by 56% and 29%, respectively. However, plasma beta-endorphin levels were unaffected in the rofecoxib group but declined significantly in the acetaminophen group,27 suggesting either rofecoxib supports beta-endorphin synthesis, durability or both or acetaminophen inhibits it. View Quote Beta-endorphins are neuropeptides involved in pain management, possessing morphine like effects, and are involved in natural reward circuits such as feeding, drinking, sex and maternal behavior. View Quote |
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Fentanyl is 100 times more powerful than morphine. It hits hard. View Quote eta: now that cartels and other low life folks have learned to manufacture fentanyl, it is just as likely that the lack of standardized or metered dosing of street fentanyl was responsible for their demise. If you don't know how much narc you're really injecting/ingesting you're playing roulette with more than one bullet in the gun. |
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