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Posted: 7/14/2017 1:37:17 AM EDT
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![]() https://www.justice.gov/opa/speech/attorney-general-jeff-sessions-delivers-remarks-press-conference-announcing-2017-health The Department of Justice coordinated efforts between our Criminal Division, U.S. Attorneys' Offices, Health and Human Services and more than 1,000 state and federal law enforcement agents to charge 412 defendants-including 56 doctors. These defendants have defrauded taxpayers of approximately $1.3 billion. As a result of this operation, 295 health care providers are now in the process of being suspended or banned from participation in federal health programs. Among those defendants announced today, 120 have been charged with opioid-related crimes, making this also the largest opioid-related fraud takedown in American history. One group of defendants-including six doctors-are alleged to have operated a scheme in Michigan to prescribe patients with unnecessary opioids, some of which ended up for sale on the street. These defendants allegedly billed Medicare for $164 million in false and fraudulent claims. While today is a historic day, the Department's work is not finished. In fact, it is just beginning. We will continue to find, arrest, prosecute, convict, and incarcerate fraudsters and drug dealers wherever they are. We will use every tool we have to stop criminals from exploiting vulnerable people and stealing our hard-earned tax dollars. We are continuing to work hard to develop even more techniques to identify and prosecute wrongdoers. We are sending a clear message to criminals across the country: we will find you. We will bring you to justice. And, you will pay a very high price for what you have done. I want to thank Secretary Price for his leadership and for sharing his expertise as a renowned physician. I want to also thank the dedicated HHS personnel for their valuable assistance. I want to thank all of the Department of Justice attorneys, staff and agents who did their part to make today possible. They have made the entire Department proud. Above all I think that we owe a major debt of gratitude to the over 1,000 law enforcement officers involved in these cases. I want to thank them and their families for their service to this country. Thank you and now I'll turn this over to Secretary Price. |
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Huh... just read in another thread that sessions was the worst.
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Huh... just read in another thread that sessions was the worst. ![]() View Quote |
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Dog and pony show.
They nabbed 412 suspects in what is possibly the most fraud ridden industry in America, and now they parade themselves around and want pats on the back. That's some mighty fine police work. ![]() Maybe next month they can wrangle up a few frauds using their welfare monies to buy drugs. Think it's doable? |
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Dog and pony show. They nabbed 412 suspects in what is possibly the most fraud ridden industry in America, and now they parade themselves around and want pats on the back. That's some mighty fine police work. ![]() Maybe next month they can wrangle up a few frauds using their welfare monies to buy drugs. Think it's doable? View Quote |
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Dog and pony show. They nabbed 412 suspects in what is possibly the most fraud ridden industry in America, and now they parade themselves around and want pats on the back. That's some mighty fine police work. ![]() Maybe next month they can wrangle up a few frauds using their welfare monies to buy drugs. Think it's doable? View Quote Start throwing some people in jail and reclaiming some of this fraud money and we will be getting some good progress ![]() |
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Dog and pony show. They nabbed 412 suspects in what is possibly the most fraud ridden industry in America, and now they parade themselves around and want pats on the back. That's some mighty fine police work. ![]() Maybe next month they can wrangle up a few frauds using their welfare monies to buy drugs. Think it's doable? View Quote We have to start somewhere. Over a billion seems like a decent showing. And seeing the law enforced might actually have some deterrent value. |
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They should have also arrested Hussein and every single dem who voted for Obamacare for Fraud.
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Reads like 'pissed into ocean, caused coastal flooding'.
Financially it'll provide the same boom as Joe Blow finding $0.25 on street. In reality, if politicians see 1.6 billion saved - they'll spend 10.6 billion. Want to color me impressed? Get some of the American trillions looted by the banks and con-gressmen. While it's a lot to one man, a billion ain't shit when it took a $999 million in man hours to get it and we're still 20 trillion in debt. |
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I'm certain some fucktard Hawaiin judge will soon be along to tell Sessions to drop all charges.
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Reads like 'pissed into ocean, caused coastal flooding'. Financially it'll provide the same boom as Joe Blow finding $0.25 on street. In reality, if politicians see 1.6 billion saved - they'll spend 10.6 billion. Want to color me impressed? Get some of the American trillions looted by the banks and con-gressmen. While it's a lot to one man, a billion ain't shit when it took a $999 million in man hours to get it and we're still 20 trillion in debt. View Quote |
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They just got 56 doctors in NJ for taking money from Drug Companies to write Oxy scripts.
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They just got 56 doctors in NJ for taking money from Drug Companies to write Oxy scripts. View Quote The amount of money they donate to " reelection" campaigns has made many Congressmen and Senators millionaires. |
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Dog and pony show. They nabbed 412 suspects in what is possibly the most fraud ridden industry in America, and now they parade themselves around and want pats on the back. That's some mighty fine police work. ![]() Maybe next month they can wrangle up a few frauds using their welfare monies to buy drugs. Think it's doable? View Quote |
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Oh, good. Now more doctors will refuse to issue pain med to patients who need them. Doctors are seeing it as too much of a gamble with the government going after them. Doctor issues meds to a patient who needs them, patient has a grandkid or whatever who is stealing them, grandkid gets caught, police visit doctor.
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Oh, good. Now more doctors will refuse to issue pain med to patients who need them. Doctors are seeing it as too much of a gamble with the government going after them. Doctor issues meds to a patient who needs them, patient has a grandkid or whatever who is stealing them, grandkid gets caught, police visit doctor. View Quote Granted we've had a massive heroin and meth issue pop up in the last two years out of the blue. |
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Amazing people are upset about trying to stop fraud.
Muh pain meds |
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Pain meds, especially opiods are way over prescribed as is. There are tons of other options out there, to where the clinics up here have big signs stating that no scripts like that will be given. It's cut down on druggies abusing the clinics a lot up here. Granted we've had a massive heroin and meth issue pop up in the last two years out of the blue. View Quote I'm OK with legalization... but in return for being removed as the "gatekeeper" to the pharmacy, I want something. I want to be legally indemnified and not held responsible for when these people overdose, or otherwise hurt themselves. Why even have the EMS people bring them in? I respect their right to make their own choices, and they respect mine. Seems fair to me. |
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I thought we didn't like Sessions?
![]() Maybe he's good at doing his job--- ENFORCING THE DAMN LAW--- and we've forgotten what that looks like? |
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Tip of the iceberg.
Almost all govt programs have massive fraud. |
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Even a dumbass can occasionally get something correct. Dude seriously needs to drop the pot needle thing. It's not helping. ![]() View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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I thought we didn't like Sessions? ![]() Maybe he's good at doing his job--- ENFORCING THE DAMN LAW--- and we've forgotten what that looks like? View Quote Actually most haven't forgotten, they just don't want them enforced and would be happier with the Obama and Holder administration. |
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One fake rehab facility for drug addicts in Palm Beach is alleged to have recruited addicts with gift cards, visits to strip clubs, and even drugs-enabling the company to bill for over $58 million in false treatments and tests.
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I'm a solid 'Sessions is a retard' but.........
Great job on this one, keep it up and opinions can be changed. ![]() |
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Digging a hole in the ocean with a shovel, but at least they're fighting.
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Amazing people are upset about trying to stop fraud. Muh pain meds View Quote If I thought for a second that the WOD would actually do something to alleviate drug abuse and crime in this country I'd support it with all my heart. But it won't, for the exact same reasons gun control laws don't work to suppress violent crime: the criminals don't care what the the law says. And there will always be ways to obtain those things they desire, because where demand exists, supply will follow. Always. 100% of the time. Drugs, guns, alcohol, ivory, credit card numbers, kiddie porn... access to all supposedly regulated or denied by law, yet all are easily available to anyone with the cash and the desire. So, again like the war on guns, aggressive regulation and prosecution will only harm those with a legitimate need for the drugs. It's an undeniable and inescapable result that will happen every time we attempt to control human behavior with a pen and a gavel. And unless we promptly execute those uncovered as part of this effort, they'll either be back on the streets in days or weeks, or incarcerated and effectively living on the public dole until they are released or die. |
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I'm a solid 'Sessions is a retard' but......... Great job on this one, keep it up and opinions can be changed. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/467962/IMG-0277-253520.JPG View Quote |
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It's not about the "fraud"; that's just a handy label to slap over the top of Sessions' personal white-knight campaign against drug abuse. If they were purely interested in prosecuting fraud there are much richer fields to reap out there in the healthcare and welfare industries. If I thought for a second that the WOD would actually do something to alleviate drug abuse and crime in this country I'd support it with all my heart. But it won't, for the exact same reasons gun control laws don't work to suppress violent crime: the criminals don't care what the the law says. And there will always be ways to obtain those things they desire, because where demand exists, supply will follow. Always. 100% of the time. Drugs, guns, alcohol, ivory, credit card numbers, kiddie porn... access to all supposedly regulated or denied by law, yet all are easily available to anyone with the cash and the desire. So, again like the war on guns, aggressive regulation and prosecution will only harm those with a legitimate need for the drugs. It's an undeniable and inescapable result that will happen every time we attempt to control human behavior with a pen and a gavel. And unless we promptly execute those uncovered as part of this effort, they'll either be back on the streets in days or weeks, or incarcerated and effectively living on the public dole until they are released or die. View Quote |
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Certainly there is legitimate fraud, especially where the big government candy store is concerned. However, what people must understand is that when politicians tout huge numbers of medicare or medicaid fraud is that to the feds, being one digit off on an 8 digit code is also considered "fraud" and recoverable. When they say "fraud" they mean everything to include simple coding errors. When the layman hears "fraud" they think of some sort of organized crime action where bills are sent out without even seeing people or goods billed for that were not actually given out.
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Slight problem with your logic. 8+ year investigation. So unless Trump is lending out his time machine, it's not exactly a Sessions thing. Just landed in his lap. A billion + in fraud is still a nice penny though. View Quote I'm not denying that drug abuse is a serious problem in our culture. It's a tremendous drain on prosperity, destroys families, fosters violent crime and has a myriad of other downsides. But we have to come up with a more effective way to address it. And no, I don't profess to have the answer myself. ![]() |
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Certainly there is legitimate fraud, especially where the big government candy store is concerned. However, what people must understand is that when politicians tout huge numbers of medicare or medicaid fraud is that to the feds, being one digit off on an 8 digit code is also considered "fraud" and recoverable. When they say "fraud" they mean everything to include simple coding errors. When the layman hears "fraud" they think of some sort of organized crime action where bills are sent out without even seeing people or goods billed for that were not actually given out. View Quote And yes, they care about inadvertent coding errors. |
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This is the truth. Medicare "fraud" investigations are notoriously intrusive, and heavy-handed... and the contractors who do it get a percentage of the "recovery." And yes, they care about inadvertent coding errors. View Quote I remember that being discussed here before...how fat fingering a keyboard can result in large fines. |
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This is the truth. Medicare "fraud" investigations are notoriously intrusive, and heavy-handed... and the contractors who do it get a percentage of the "recovery." And yes, they care about inadvertent coding errors. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Certainly there is legitimate fraud, especially where the big government candy store is concerned. However, what people must understand is that when politicians tout huge numbers of medicare or medicaid fraud is that to the feds, being one digit off on an 8 digit code is also considered "fraud" and recoverable. When they say "fraud" they mean everything to include simple coding errors. When the layman hears "fraud" they think of some sort of organized crime action where bills are sent out without even seeing people or goods billed for that were not actually given out. And yes, they care about inadvertent coding errors. |
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This is the truth. Medicare "fraud" investigations are notoriously intrusive, and heavy-handed... and the contractors who do it get a percentage of the "recovery." And yes, they care about inadvertent coding errors. View Quote In programs as large as the Medicare/Medicaid programs are, there is a significant amount of actual fraud and much of it goes undiscovered. One way to discourage others from thinking about committing fraud is essentially to make Draconian examples of those who mess up. "Kill one, terrorize a thousand"....In a program that large, it's about their only hope of compliance. |
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Oh, good. Now more doctors will refuse to issue pain med to patients who need them. Doctors are seeing it as too much of a gamble with the government going after them. Doctor issues meds to a patient who needs them, patient has a grandkid or whatever who is stealing them, grandkid gets caught, police visit doctor. View Quote |
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The entire medical industry engaged in fraud, racketeering, price fixing, and monopolistic pricing.
Wake me up when they start prosecuting all of that. Anti-trust laws are violated by all of them. |
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Dog and pony show. They nabbed 412 suspects in what is possibly the most fraud ridden industry in America, and now they parade themselves around and want pats on the back. That's some mighty fine police work. ![]() Maybe next month they can wrangle up a few frauds using their welfare monies to buy drugs. Think it's doable? View Quote It's a start. |
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You don't need opioids for anything but the most severe of injury. View Quote |
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Typical ARFCOM.
"Why aren't they doing something about this?!!!!!" *They do something about it.* "Blah! Why didn't they do as much as I demanded and fully satisfy my expectations?!!!!" Fuckers around here would complain that a blowjob was too good. |
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It's not about the "fraud"; that's just a handy label to slap over the top of Sessions' personal white-knight campaign against drug abuse. If they were purely interested in prosecuting fraud there are much richer fields to reap out there in the healthcare and welfare industries. If I thought for a second that the WOD would actually do something to alleviate drug abuse and crime in this country I'd support it with all my heart. But it won't, for the exact same reasons gun control laws don't work to suppress violent crime: the criminals don't care what the the law says. And there will always be ways to obtain those things they desire, because where demand exists, supply will follow. Always. 100% of the time. Drugs, guns, alcohol, ivory, credit card numbers, kiddie porn... access to all supposedly regulated or denied by law, yet all are easily available to anyone with the cash and the desire. So, again like the war on guns, aggressive regulation and prosecution will only harm those with a legitimate need for the drugs. It's an undeniable and inescapable result that will happen every time we attempt to control human behavior with a pen and a gavel. And unless we promptly execute those uncovered as part of this effort, they'll either be back on the streets in days or weeks, or incarcerated and effectively living on the public dole until they are released or die. View Quote |
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"But but but Sessions hates my marijuana." " Worst appointment by Trump." "Too old school Bible thumping Republican." "Fuck Sessions"
That's the GD opinion of him so this must not be a good thing. |
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Typical ARFCOM. "Why aren't they doing something about this?!!!!!" *They do something about it.* "Blah! Why didn't they do as much as I demanded and fully satisfy my expectations?!!!!" Fuckers around here would complain that a blowjob was too good. View Quote |
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Drop in the bucket, in NY alone the fraud for adult diapers is more than that. Jeff seesions is a moron and couldnt find fraud without the people who actually do more than waist oxygen.
I worked for a company who sells software to .gov agencies that looks for fraud. This company found a way to look at certain billing discrepancy issues and it flags it for a human to look at the possible scam closer. In NY they found a bunch of companies run by russians were sending at least 1 extra case of diapers to people who had surgical procedures that required them. No big deal unless you looked closer; they would then send in another person to buy the extra case off of craigslist or whatever and repeat the process. They found 3 billion dollars in diapers were sold to insurance companies which some of that was not needed and was fraud. |
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Dog and pony show. They nabbed 412 suspects in what is possibly the most fraud ridden industry in America, and now they parade themselves around and want pats on the back. That's some mighty fine police work. ![]() Maybe next month they can wrangle up a few frauds using their welfare monies to buy drugs. Think it's doable? View Quote Longing for your heros Holder and Lynch back? |
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Drop in the bucket, in NY alone the fraud for adult diapers is more than that. Jeff seesions is a moron and couldnt find fraud without the people who actually do more than waist oxygen. I worked for a company who sells software to .gov agencies that looks for fraud. This company found a way to look at certain billing discrepancy issues and it flags it for a human to look at the possible scam closer. In NY they found a bunch of companies run by russians were sending at least 1 extra case of diapers to people who had surgical procedures that required them. No big deal unless you looked closer; they would then send in another person to buy the extra case off of craigslist or whatever and repeat the process. They found 3 billion dollars in diapers were sold to insurance companies which some of that was not needed and was fraud. View Quote |
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1.3 billion. Wow! What percentage of the 13.6 trillion dollar debt is that?
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