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Link Posted: 7/15/2017 12:08:00 AM EDT
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You didn't pay into anything except the general fund.

It's been 80 years. Ignorance is not an excuse for believing FDR's propaganda.
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This.

Nobody has an excuse for not knowing what has been going on.

No one has "paid into" anything.
Link Posted: 7/15/2017 12:14:10 AM EDT
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At this point I'd just be happy with them stop fucking taking it. Fuckin ponzi scheme bullshit.
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SS is worse than a ponzi scheme.  Ponzi schemes are voluntary to enroll.  SS is not.
Link Posted: 7/15/2017 12:46:04 AM EDT
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This thread is stressing me out.

Time to go on disability?

Over a BILLION a WEEK in Medicare fraud...
Link Posted: 7/15/2017 12:52:22 AM EDT
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Just refund what ive paid in so far and stop taking it out and we are square
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How do people still believe this shit?

If you want a refund, go over to your grandma's house and ask for a check.

Your money's gone.  

The money you're expecting you're taking from your kid.


edit:  I realize much of the money didn't even make it to grandma- Uncle Sugar's got bills to pay 
Link Posted: 7/15/2017 1:10:39 AM EDT
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OP: born in 1973? Me too.
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Yep, Gen X. 
Link Posted: 7/15/2017 1:15:52 AM EDT
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There's a clip somewhere of Alan Greenspan testifying to congress about it. He says "I can absolutely promise that everyone will receive the dollars they are owed from ss, but I cannot guarantee what those dollars will be worth."
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Add in public pensions and yep, that's where we are headed.
Link Posted: 7/15/2017 1:16:36 AM EDT
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Millennial generation is larger than the Baby Boomers
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/04/25/millennials-overtake-baby-boomers/
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Uhm. SS damn near did collapse in the last 43 years:

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/388563/ChartGo-161478.png

See the "years in fund" thing? SS was running on just 2 months in reserve for a good part of the 80s.

They had to greatly increase the tax to save it.

It's coming back, bigger than ever, as the biggest generation in American history (Boomers) retire as they're being funded by a far smaller generation (Millennials).
Millennial generation is larger than the Baby Boomers
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/04/25/millennials-overtake-baby-boomers/
Actually, you're right for living people right now.

Though, the Boomers were larger back in the day than Milennials:

Link Posted: 7/15/2017 5:44:14 AM EDT
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How do people still believe this shit?

If you want a refund, go over to your grandma's house and ask for a check.

Your money's gone.  

The money you're expecting you're taking from your kid.


edit:  I realize much of the money didn't even make it to grandma- Uncle Sugar's got bills to pay 
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Just refund what ive paid in so far and stop taking it out and we are square
How do people still believe this shit?

If you want a refund, go over to your grandma's house and ask for a check.

Your money's gone.  

The money you're expecting you're taking from your kid.


edit:  I realize much of the money didn't even make it to grandma- Uncle Sugar's got bills to pay 
Check your meter.
Link Posted: 7/15/2017 5:49:44 AM EDT
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So when will welfare become insolvent?
Link Posted: 7/15/2017 5:51:53 AM EDT
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Democrat Answer:  Raise taxes.  Grow Govt.  Bring in Illegals by the millions.
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And the Republican's answer is?  Wake me up when the shooting starts---I'll be napping.

ZFG by me.....I'm already feeding at the trough.  
Link Posted: 7/15/2017 6:00:39 AM EDT
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In 2034 I will be 85.
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I wonder, if they do nothing until the time gets close, if vastly more people will start panicking and take the early retirement from it.

That might cause it's demise to come sooner.

I would refer you to the Dallas Police and Fire pension fiasco. Maybe not the exact same, but probably a good indicator. Especially when the MSM whips everyone up into a panic.
Link Posted: 7/15/2017 6:01:45 AM EDT
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So when will welfare become insolvent?
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About the time the USD is completely debased down to TP. Then we will likely need a war followed by a new currency. Thats assuming we come out on the right side of said war. 
Link Posted: 7/15/2017 6:05:33 AM EDT
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you young people just keep making those payments, my new fishing boat needs a trolling motor just retired yesterday
Link Posted: 7/15/2017 6:12:08 AM EDT
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This is the time to pay all your debts and secure a safe compound.
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Solid advice whether there's a collapse or not.
Link Posted: 7/15/2017 6:40:08 AM EDT
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THIS...

Biggest fraud in America.
People get laid off.......pick up their 2 yr extended unemployment check......get to sit home, maybe pick up an odd job for cash on the side....then when unemployment starts to run out and they've gotten used to that couch......they find the "ouch my back" SSI Disability honeypot.
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Stop transferring funds from Social Security to the fraud infested SSI  Disability program ASAP.
THIS...

Biggest fraud in America.
People get laid off.......pick up their 2 yr extended unemployment check......get to sit home, maybe pick up an odd job for cash on the side....then when unemployment starts to run out and they've gotten used to that couch......they find the "ouch my back" SSI Disability honeypot.
I'm still shocked at getting unemployment for 2 years.


I lost my job in 2001, I got offered 26 weeks of unemployment and I collected six weeks before I'd already found a better job. I have never taken unemployment since and do not plan to.

All the 20-somethings collecting disability is just as disgusting as my mother-in-law who I have known for 7 years and has not had a job the entire time. First she had her two years of unemployment, then she started working on disability and got it. She is 60 years old and all the reason she cannot work is because she is fucking lazy.

Luckily I have never expected to get Social Security. My wife as a teacher does not pay into it so she's not being fleeced as badly as I am.
Link Posted: 7/15/2017 7:05:30 AM EDT
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  The failure to tax social security like any other income is silly as well.  We tax unemployment benefits, why not tax Social Security?  
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They already do tax SS.  Up to 85% of it, anyway.

Please try to keep up.
Link Posted: 7/15/2017 7:07:43 AM EDT
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you young people just keep making those payments, my new fishing boat needs a trolling motor just retired yesterday
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That's great news and I hope you enjoy a  happy, healthy, and long retirement.

Congratulations.
Link Posted: 7/15/2017 7:24:56 AM EDT
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Is a taking which the Constitution requires that they compensate you for.
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Eminent domain
Is a taking which the Constitution requires that they compensate you for.
 

LOL, The Constitution " requires" lots of things, but it seems few care anymore.
Certainly not the Gov.

Losing a family property, I can assure you that the amount of compensation  will always fall short of fair market value.  But its in the name of progress, right?
Link Posted: 7/15/2017 7:43:55 AM EDT
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Exactly and the very reason that it is FO time should they even talk about taking over citizens' private retirement accounts.
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The key is finding how much money has been collected every year since the start and how much is paid out.

Congress has been spending the excess and replacing that with IOUs.

Had they really placed the excess in a "lock box," it should be much better
Exactly and the very reason that it is FO time should they even talk about taking over citizens' private retirement accounts.
They will get around to that soon enough
Link Posted: 7/15/2017 10:10:25 AM EDT
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I'm still shocked at getting unemployment for 2 years.


I lost my job in 2001, I got offered 26 weeks of unemployment and I collected six weeks before I'd already found a better job. I have never taken unemployment since and do not plan to.

All the 20-somethings collecting disability is just as disgusting as my mother-in-law who I have known for 7 years and has not had a job the entire time. First she had her two years of unemployment, then she started working on disability and got it. She is 60 years old and all the reason she cannot work is because she is fucking lazy.

Luckily I have never expected to get Social Security. My wife as a teacher does not pay into it so she's not being fleeced as badly as I am.
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Stop transferring funds from Social Security to the fraud infested SSI  Disability program ASAP.
THIS...

Biggest fraud in America.
People get laid off.......pick up their 2 yr extended unemployment check......get to sit home, maybe pick up an odd job for cash on the side....then when unemployment starts to run out and they've gotten used to that couch......they find the "ouch my back" SSI Disability honeypot.
I'm still shocked at getting unemployment for 2 years.


I lost my job in 2001, I got offered 26 weeks of unemployment and I collected six weeks before I'd already found a better job. I have never taken unemployment since and do not plan to.

All the 20-somethings collecting disability is just as disgusting as my mother-in-law who I have known for 7 years and has not had a job the entire time. First she had her two years of unemployment, then she started working on disability and got it. She is 60 years old and all the reason she cannot work is because she is fucking lazy.

Luckily I have never expected to get Social Security. My wife as a teacher does not pay into it so she's not being fleeced as badly as I am.
I've never taken a penny from the .gov except for a football scholarship (if you consider a college .gov) and a paycheck as a cop.
Link Posted: 7/15/2017 12:04:00 PM EDT
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2034?  I'll be dead by then.  So let me take this opportunity now to thank the OP for all his contributions to my retirement.  I'm spending the money on booze and porn.
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