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Link Posted: 4/23/2024 8:55:28 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:




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Neat!
Link Posted: 4/23/2024 9:08:04 AM EDT
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Neat!
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:




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Neat!



I am amazed if you look at it since the beginning of the war how the large drone threat posed by the Shahed drones were advertised.   They were billed as 1,000 km range strategic weapons, and then thrown against a country that wasn't ready for it.

Now most of the Shahed drones are regularly shot down, and I think people are starting to see that cheap problems usually require cheap solutions to the problems they pose.

Cruise missiles are a much bigger threat, but now we see Russia can't seem to make enough of them to keep the pressure on Ukraine like they once did.  Those require more expensive solutions, advanced radars and missile systems to destroy.

The next level up is ballistic missiles, they are very fast, and require the most expensive solutions to reliably shoot down, but again Russia doesn't seem to be able to fire the number they once did, because things like cruise missiles and ballistic missiles are far more complex and expensive machines than a Shahed.



Enter the Ukrainian gun trucks with night vision and groups of guys firing every gun they can point at the Shahed.
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Link Posted: 4/23/2024 9:15:41 AM EDT
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Thermal imager, you can see it hit by cannon fire.  This could be from the thermal sight of the Gepard shown earlier but blurred out in the original video, it is obviously being tracked by a more advanced system with the green reticle.

Link Posted: 4/23/2024 9:18:28 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/23/2024 9:45:12 AM EDT
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Somebody asked for this a few pages ago.
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Link Posted: 4/23/2024 10:39:41 AM EDT
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Speaking of the above image, a Russian BM-21 MLRS it hit by a Himars round.

Link Posted: 4/23/2024 11:00:27 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/23/2024 11:19:46 AM EDT
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This is one way to clear a trench and produce more than a few nightmares!
Link Posted: 4/23/2024 11:43:55 AM EDT
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I'm really beginning to appreciate Capta's theory on why we decided to have heavier hitting infantry weapons.

I can imagine about 20 of those things heading toward a trench at night.  Nightmare fuel.
Link Posted: 4/23/2024 11:46:46 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/23/2024 11:49:18 AM EDT
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N O P E
Link Posted: 4/23/2024 12:06:26 PM EDT
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The package is set to include vehicles, Stinger air defense munitions, additional ammunition for M142 HIMARS/M270 MLRS, 155mm artillery ammunition, TOW and Javelin anti-tank munitions and other weapons that can immediately be put to use on the battlefield, according to US officials.
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Link Posted: 4/23/2024 12:27:20 PM EDT
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Russian FSB Counterintelligence Chief Gets 9 Years in Cybercrime Bribery Scheme

2024-04-22 21:04



The head of counterintelligence for a division of the Russian Federal Security Service (FSB) was sentenced last week to nine years in a penal colony for accepting a USD $1.7 million bribe to ignore the activities of a prolific Russian cybercrime group that hacked thousands of e-commerce websites. The protection scheme was exposed in 2022 when Russian authorities arrested six members of the group, which sold millions of stolen payment cards at flashy online shops like Trump’s Dumps.

As reported by The Record, a Russian court last week sentenced former FSB officer Grigory Tsaregorodtsev for taking a $1.7 million bribe from a cybercriminal group that was seeking a “roof,” a well-placed, corrupt law enforcement official who could be counted on to both disregard their illegal hacking activities and run interference with authorities in the event of their arrest.

Tsaregorodtsev was head of the counterintelligence department for a division of the FSB based in Perm, Russia. In February 2022, Russian authorities arrested six men in the Perm region accused of selling stolen payment card data. They also seized multiple carding shops run by the gang, including Ferum Shop, Sky-Fraud, and Trump’s Dumps, a popular fraud store that invoked the 45th president’s likeness and promised to “make credit card fraud great again.”

All of the domains seized in that raid were registered by an IT consulting company in Perm called Get-net LLC, which was owned in part by Artem Zaitsev — one of the six men arrested. Zaitsev reportedly was a well-known programmer whose company supplied services and leasing to the local FSB field office.

Russian news sites report that Internal Affairs officials with the FSB grew suspicious when Tsaregorodtsev became a little too interested in the case following the hacking group’s arrests. The former FSB agent had reportedly assured the hackers he could have their case transferred and that they would soon be free.

But when that promised freedom didn’t materialize, four the of the defendants pulled the walls down on the scheme and brought down their own roof. The FSB arrested Tsaregorodtsev, and seized $154,000 in cash, 100 gold bars, real estate and expensive cars.

At Tsaregorodtsev’s trial, his lawyers argued that their client wasn’t guilty of bribery per se, but that he did admit to fraud because he was ultimately unable to fully perform the services for which he’d been hired.

The Russian news outlet Kommersant reports that all four of those who cooperated were released with probation or correctional labor. Zaitsev received a sentence of 3.5 years in prison, and defendant Alexander Kovalev got four years.

In 2017, KrebsOnSecurity profiled Trump’s Dumps, and found the contact address listed on the site was tied to an email address used to register more than a dozen domains that were made to look like legitimate Javascript calls many e-commerce sites routinely make to process transactions — such as “js-link[dot]su,” “js-stat[dot]su,” and “js-mod[dot]su.”

Searching on those malicious domains revealed a 2016 report from RiskIQ, which shows the domains featured prominently in a series of hacking campaigns against e-commerce websites. According to RiskIQ, the attacks targeted online stores running outdated and unpatched versions of shopping cart software from Magento, Powerfront and OpenCart.

Those shopping cart flaws allowed the crooks to install “web skimmers,” malicious Javascript used to steal credit card details and other information from payment forms on the checkout pages of vulnerable e-commerce sites. The stolen customer payment card details were then sold on sites like Trump’s Dumps and Sky-Fraud.

https://krebsonsecurity.com/2024/04/russian-fsb-counterintelligence-chief-gets-9-years-in-cybercrime-bribery-scheme/

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So "Trump" WAS involved with Russian crooks...






Link Posted: 4/23/2024 12:30:56 PM EDT
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If it was a big deal and a real war footing it wouldn't take them a whole ass World War 2 to do it.
Link Posted: 4/23/2024 12:32:58 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Saltwater-Hillbilly:


Russia has literally burned it's bridges in Ukraine.  Anything less than a complete conquest at this point of Ukraine on Russia's part will end up being a strategic defeat, as they are brewing Poland-levels of generational hate among the Ukes, and those folks are right up there with Appalachia in their ability to hold a grudge!
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Yes. I've been saying this since 2014...the Russian idiots are creating the "monster" that they have been pretending to fear. Even if they managed to take all of Ukraine (very unlikely) it would be like a cancer eating away from inside. Self-fulfilled prophecy...

Had Putin kissed some ass and tried to bribe Ukraine (like Chechnya) the Russians may have had a chance at a friendly Ukraine. Now, even the folks out East that previously have been ambivalent about Russia now have a legitimate blood-feud.
Link Posted: 4/23/2024 12:36:07 PM EDT
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Hopefully it includes a brigades worth of Brads
Link Posted: 4/23/2024 12:42:03 PM EDT
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Has this dude been posted here yet? He's an active duty Ukrainian soldier who posts reviews of both NATO and Soviet equipment (rifles, grenades, flares, tourniquets, etc.). Recently, he posted an exclusive video to his Patreon that goes in-depth regarding drones. I'm not a paying member, but someone else on another forum did the leg work and summarized the key points. This is going to be a really long post, but it's very interesting, and I think it has validity to even SHTF scenarios here in the states. @planemaker should find this stuff really interesting.

FPV drone types (warheads):

. Explosive/Fragmentation - Straightforward, plastic explosive filler with fragmentation sleeve. Used for exposed personnel.

. HEAT - Most commonly RPG-7 Warheads

. Penetration Core - Here I think he was referring to an explosively formed penetrator (EFP). Opposed to HEAT, an EFP have a much thicker hemispherical copper lining with HE behind it. The benefit of an EFP is that the penetrator forms much further away (up to 20m) from the detonation, allowing penetration from a distance and through cope cages. Valgear states that these "Penetration Core" warheads are slowly replacing HEAT on the battlefield.

. Thermobaric - Mini fuel/air bombs which are used against dugouts and other entrenched positions

. Proximity Fuse - Valgear states that UA is slowly trying to replace contact fuses with proximity fuses with Claymore warheads, which detonate via a command from the drone operator. Valgear didn't say why, but I believe this is due to the rise of penetration core drones as well as better fragmentation zone.

FPV Drone Defensive Tactics - Interesting note, Valgear states that UA is basing its infantry drone defense tactics at least in part off of RU's reports and experience.

. First line of defense - Always listen for FPV drone motors. Always have a team member looking up and with active ear protection on max.

. Second line of defense - Speed. Of course, it's harder to hit a moving target.

. Third Line of defense - Smoke. Smoke is very effective at obscuring your position. If you are moving and obscured, you are much harder to hit. Russians are using massive smoke screens, kilometers wide to obscure movement of men and vehicles. It does clearly signal an attack, but with spotting drones so prevalent, it's better to obscure the attack than to attempt surprise.

. Forth line of defense - SHOOT! As soon as you see the drone, shoot at it. This was originally a Russian doctrine, but UAF is starting to adopt it as well. Reports are stating that this tactic is actually very effective. This is a pretty interesting example of selection bias in the footage we see. Russians and Ukrainians aren't posting videos of drones getting shot down, but it seems (at least based on this guy's reporting) this is actually a viable defense. Shooting at it may shoot down a drone, but it also forces the operator into evasive action and can result in poor targeting. This is also why proximity fuses are becoming more popular, because the operator can instantly detonate over the personnel as opposed to maneuvering for a good hit.

. When in a forest, hug a tree. When in a building, close all doors and windows, use curtains if glass is shattered (curtains can detonate fuse).

In general, if you get spotted, be active and aggressive with your defense. Cowering in place will only result in certain death.

EW (Electronic Warfare)

. Any EW is better than none. Even if operating on the wrong frequencies, EW can interfere with an operator at short ranges. Note: Another Ukrainian soldier on the forum I'm copying and pasting this from disagreed, stating, "Completely wrong. If you do not match the operating range of the signal, the effectiveness of your EW emitter is zero (0). Short range interference is due to radio blocking of the signal when losing line of sight."

. UA has some EW capabilities (vehicle mounts and backpack EW).

. Russians have gotten much better at EW in quantity and quality. They now have EW repeaters that create a frequency umbrella around their trenches.

. "Radio Horizon" - This is essentially the range of EW and FPV frequencies in consideration of Earth curvature and obstacles. Place antennas high on trees and buildings. The UAF is now placing repeaters on heavy drones.

Drone Drop Munitions

. Usually use DJI Mavic series drones.

. Up to Baba Yaga - Heavy drone that drops mines, apparently it’s a repurposed agricultural drone.

. Valgear states that drone drops are an even greater threat than FPV. They have better resolution, and can acquire targets better. They have higher munition capacity. Due to the altitudes they are operating in, they are very difficult to hear and see.

. RU is using drone drop attacks at a similar frequency to UA.

. Autell Drones are more dangerous than DJI, because they are more resistant to EW than DJI and can operate at night.

Drone Drop Defensive Tactics

. Basically the same as FPV with a few differences. When digging a trench and dugout, dig the trench deeper than the dugout. This way a drone drop grenade will not roll into the dugout.

Drone Surveillance

. American doctrine states that when you encounter indirect fire, you should push in the direction of that fire (note: this isn't the case, according to people on the original forum). In the context of Ukraine, and drone surveillance, this is a completely outdated tactic. On the modern battlefield, artillery zeros in within minutes.

. If you encounter indirect fire, take cover immediately.

. You will get one to three accurate shots on your position, but if your cover is good, chances are you will survive.

. After you have taken fire, wait in cover for 30min to an hour (longer the better) for the spotting drone to run out of battery and return to base.

. "Don’t fuck around with artillery under any condition, ever!"

. Artillery is the number one killer in Ukraine.

. Russians will double tap you if you do not wait long enough.

Fixed Wing Drones

. Orlan - 10- Surveillance drone and designator. Typically designates for guided cluster munitions, less often Lancets.

. Zala - Another surveillance drone and designator. Typically designates for Lancets (Zala and Lancet are built by the same company).

. Lancets (First Generation) - Used a general penetration warhead, similar to an upscaled DPCIM submunition.

. Lancets (Second Generation) - Uses a penetration core (EFP) to penetrate past netting and cover.

. These fixed wing drones are used almost entirely to identify and eliminate high value targets: artillery, tanks, etc. Infantry generally doesn't have to worry about them.
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Excellent. Thank you for posting!!!
keep it coming.
Link Posted: 4/23/2024 12:42:56 PM EDT
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Be a little more entertaining if it hiked its leg and pissed fire.
Link Posted: 4/23/2024 1:25:07 PM EDT
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Hundreds of thousands of everyday people have had their home, villages, and towns utterly destroyed by orc invaders.

Scorched earth.

Crime Against Humanity
Link Posted: 4/23/2024 1:37:50 PM EDT
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Or a "Hump leg to completion" mode
Link Posted: 4/23/2024 1:39:21 PM EDT
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I read all the posts regarding the passage of the Ukraine military aid bill recently, and was just amazed on the shortsightedness. Quite a few here on ARFCOM were against this simply because they wanted more "butter" spending. They have the illusion that if they increase the already huge and wasteful "butter" spending, they will finally get the spending they want to see.

Our government does not have the problem of under-funding butter. It's just that they are spending it on the wrong stuff. People would be more effective championing better "butter" spending rather than take it out on the "guns" side of the classic economic spending. That sounds like what liberals do.
Link Posted: 4/23/2024 1:41:32 PM EDT
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This belongs in the helldivers thread
Link Posted: 4/23/2024 2:22:07 PM EDT
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That's for Anchor Shots.
Link Posted: 4/23/2024 2:39:29 PM EDT
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That's for Anchor Shots.
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Be a little more entertaining if it hiked its leg and pissed fire.
That's for Anchor Shots.


Actually, I can see something like that as being useful.

Rotate the ol' dildo of consequences sideways and walk down the length of the trench pissing fire into it like a four legged Calvin.

Explain that one to the PTSD counselor!
Link Posted: 4/23/2024 3:31:40 PM EDT
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If it was a big deal and a real war footing it wouldn't take them a whole ass World War 2 to do it.
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If it was a big deal and a real war footing it wouldn't take them a whole ass World War 2 to do it.


Yeah, I would like to see some of these countries doing 4% invested in defense for the future.
Link Posted: 4/23/2024 3:33:10 PM EDT
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Hopefully it includes a brigades worth of Brads
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Hopefully it includes a brigades worth of Brads


150 from what I am hearing, we shall see.
Link Posted: 4/23/2024 3:37:06 PM EDT
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Yes. China knew and Xi demanded that Putin wait until after the Olympics. I'm just amazed that China is not helping Russia overtly.
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This needs some blue oyster cult I'm burning for you.
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That should have been the first batch. What a fucking waste.
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Yes. China knew and Xi demanded that Putin wait until after the Olympics. I'm just amazed that China is not helping Russia overtly.
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Waiting until after the Olympics absolutely fucked Russia because the ground thawed and they had to stick to the roads and their convoys got picked off by Bayraktars and Javelins.
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Why would a balloon be more expensive to shoot down than anything else?
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Maybe if the balloon is at a very high altitude it would take an expensive system? All I can think of.

edit: beat hard by Almighty
Link Posted: 4/23/2024 4:30:29 PM EDT
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Cope cage on a motorcycle. Guess you could call it a shrapnel enhancer.
https://twitter.com/antiputler_news/status/1782851174179234272
Link Posted: 4/23/2024 4:35:10 PM EDT
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That's good news... better news would be that we'll let Ukraine use them on targets inside Russia.
Link Posted: 4/23/2024 4:57:49 PM EDT
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Interesting Russian soldier... Two things immediately come to mind. One, that guy's kit is all sorts of fucked up. Two, a Sieg Heil, a Totenkopf, and a Hammer and Sickle are all being spotted by the same guy... That's a lot to unpack.
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Socialists gonna Socialist.  Since when have socialists ever been internally consistent?  You only have to look at the Ivy League to see the  "our opponents are NAZIs; especially since the right is criticizing and attempting to stop us from going after the Joos!" and the "we are against racism so we are going to use race as a determinant for everything!" arguments in action.
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As I mentioned earlier, there were up to 5x S-400 Launchers at Dzhankoi Air Base, and after further analysis, it appears that all 5 of 5 S-400 launchers were either destroyed or damaged in the ATACMS strike by Ukraine 🇺🇦 today, including a radar and other S-400 battery components
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Would it be a viable strategy for Ukraine to use ATACMS for suppression of enemy air defense around airfields, immediately followed by a raid on the airbase using Mig-29s or F-16s?  

Sure - there would be some risk of the ATACMS strike were not 100%.  

But it would be glorious to learn of Ukrainian ground-attack aircraft strafing Russian airbases.
Link Posted: 4/23/2024 5:04:28 PM EDT
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UAE

Not saying it actually does anything, but it does exist.


Special mission subs unveiled

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The Kronos moored at the NAVDEX naval area. (Andrew White)


Two underwater special-mission craft were unveiled during the IDEX 2023 show, held in Abu Dhabi from 20 to 24 February.

The futuristic-looking Kronos developed by the Emirati start-up Desert Power Designs/Highland Systems participated in the live demonstration at the NAVDEX naval area, with the company saying its craft'shydrodynamic hull gives it high surface and submerged speeds.

Designed for military, research, rescue, and underwater engineering purposes, the Kronos is 9.03 m long, 7.43 m wide, and 2.09 m high, enabling it to carry 11 people, including the pilot.

It has a diesel engine that gives it a top speed of 43 kt on the surface and a 1,200 hp electric motor for a submerged top speed of 27 kt, according to the company, which says it is designed to operate at a depth of 100 m, with 250 m listed as its critical depth, and that its batteries last for up to 18 hours.

Additional features can include 360° night-vision cameras, a sonar system, six lightweight torpedoes, and a lock-out chamber that enables divers to leave the craft without flooding the cabin.

Company officials said the Kronos has two ways to submerge: a ‘dynamic dive at high speed', or more conventionally filling its ballast tanks.

They said the Kronos has been undergoing sea trials for the past two months, a special demonstration is scheduled for the United Arab Emirates (UAE) Navy in the next two weeks, and further tests are expected to take place in Italy later this year.

Meanwhile, Sweden's Armacraft Marine Defense displayed a scale model of its Trident Mk II Combat Diver Delivery Craft (CDDC) on the stand of the UAE's International Golden Group.

https://www.janes.com/defence-news/news-detail/special-mission-subs-unveiled

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Looks like something the Iranians would claim to be building.


UAE

Not saying it actually does anything, but it does exist.


Special mission subs unveiled

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GLRObQGWcAAAIgC?format=jpg&name=small
The Kronos moored at the NAVDEX naval area. (Andrew White)


Two underwater special-mission craft were unveiled during the IDEX 2023 show, held in Abu Dhabi from 20 to 24 February.

The futuristic-looking Kronos developed by the Emirati start-up Desert Power Designs/Highland Systems participated in the live demonstration at the NAVDEX naval area, with the company saying its craft'shydrodynamic hull gives it high surface and submerged speeds.

Designed for military, research, rescue, and underwater engineering purposes, the Kronos is 9.03 m long, 7.43 m wide, and 2.09 m high, enabling it to carry 11 people, including the pilot.

It has a diesel engine that gives it a top speed of 43 kt on the surface and a 1,200 hp electric motor for a submerged top speed of 27 kt, according to the company, which says it is designed to operate at a depth of 100 m, with 250 m listed as its critical depth, and that its batteries last for up to 18 hours.

Additional features can include 360° night-vision cameras, a sonar system, six lightweight torpedoes, and a lock-out chamber that enables divers to leave the craft without flooding the cabin.

Company officials said the Kronos has two ways to submerge: a ‘dynamic dive at high speed', or more conventionally filling its ballast tanks.

They said the Kronos has been undergoing sea trials for the past two months, a special demonstration is scheduled for the United Arab Emirates (UAE) Navy in the next two weeks, and further tests are expected to take place in Italy later this year.

Meanwhile, Sweden's Armacraft Marine Defense displayed a scale model of its Trident Mk II Combat Diver Delivery Craft (CDDC) on the stand of the UAE's International Golden Group.

https://www.janes.com/defence-news/news-detail/special-mission-subs-unveiled




That craft looks very science-fiction, with an emphasis on the “fiction” part.  

Really does not look engineered for any appreciable depth, meaning it would be really detectable and vulnerable to other subs (and the Russians still have at least one sub operating in the Black Sea), not to mention Russian sub hunting ships.
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"It's not ours, it's foreign": how the British Challenger 2 tank works on the battlefield



«??? ?? ??? — ??? ???????????»: ?? ??????????? ???? Challenger 2 ???????????? ?? ???? ??? / ENG.SUB

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Originally Posted By belted_guns:

I wonder if Biden is thinking he can win with weapons, take credit for it, etc in time before the elections. I know he cares not for the Ukrainian people,  or Americans for that matter. I wonder why the change in weapons posture?

This support should have occurred a long time ago.
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That's my take on it. For the last two years I've been advocating for offensive missiles in the form of ATACMS and Tomahawks to target airfields plus strategic SAM systems to bring this war to a quick end and that a defensive missile war is unsustainable. Now that elections are coming up of course the strategy seems to be changing  maybe.
Link Posted: 4/23/2024 5:24:01 PM EDT
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Inside a Gepard Flakpanzer.



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Was the radar picking up the outgoing projectiles detonation patterns?
Link Posted: 4/23/2024 5:28:45 PM EDT
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At the same time, the Ukrainians have an increased FPV range - up to 30 km - due to the installment of repeaters on hexacopters (“Baba Yaga”) and fixed-wing UAVs.”  
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significant efforts to keep the pressure on the Russian forces.
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Originally Posted By Dracster:

Was the radar picking up the outgoing projectiles detonation patterns?
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Inside a Gepard Flakpanzer.




Was the radar picking up the outgoing projectiles detonation patterns?


I think it might, but also seeing possibly the drone breaking up.
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Originally Posted By Dominion21:



Would it be a viable strategy for Ukraine to use ATACMS for suppression of enemy air defense around airfields, immediately followed by a raid on the airbase using Mig-29s or F-16s?  

Sure - there would be some risk of the ATACMS strike were not 100%.  

But it would be glorious to learn of Ukrainian ground-attack aircraft strafing Russian airbases.
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Originally Posted By lorazepam:


As I mentioned earlier, there were up to 5x S-400 Launchers at Dzhankoi Air Base, and after further analysis, it appears that all 5 of 5 S-400 launchers were either destroyed or damaged in the ATACMS strike by Ukraine  today, including a radar and other S-400 battery components
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Would it be a viable strategy for Ukraine to use ATACMS for suppression of enemy air defense around airfields, immediately followed by a raid on the airbase using Mig-29s or F-16s?  

Sure - there would be some risk of the ATACMS strike were not 100%.  

But it would be glorious to learn of Ukrainian ground-attack aircraft strafing Russian airbases.

Follow-up missiles and drones would make more sense. Crimean airspace as a whole has fairly extensive overlapping defenses. Even as lacking as Soviet systems have been shown to be, a manned strike flying in without pretty extensive SEAD would be bloody. Then there's the Russian fighters...
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