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Link Posted: 12/29/2021 11:36:19 AM EDT
[Last Edit: DrDover] [#1]
They i.e. reactors 1-3 were shut down. Decay heat is a big issue with RBMK reactors and people had to manage them even with fires and everything going on.
Link Posted: 12/29/2021 12:02:42 PM EDT
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It's amazing how well the Stalker games mapped that area; I've virtually been to every place you posted pics of.  

One thing that surprised me is the stained glass at the cafe, seems GSC Game World missed that bit of detail, which is really odd considering how well they got the other details.

Link Posted: 12/29/2021 2:18:17 PM EDT
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Thanks for the great photos OP.  

Just re-watched the HBO miniseries.  

What happened to the people in the other 3 reactors?  1-3.  I suppose they were people in there monitoring their reactors when #4 blew.  I imagine they stayed in there until it was known that #4 had an open core but at that point did they shutdown their reactors and then gtfo or did they keep them up to provide electricity?   Just curious as I've never heard or seen anything about them.

Also, while everyone says Chernobyl, the plant is right next door to Prypiat while the town of Chernobyl is much farther south.   Wonder why its called Chernobyl?   Maybe Chernobyl was there first and then Prypiat was built some time after for the workers so they didn't have to travel as far?  

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I liked this documentary because it's recent and includes operators from the other units, to answer your question.




Link Posted: 12/29/2021 2:18:52 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By TrueAt1stLight:
Amazing posts, photos, and information, OP! Thanks for sharing. This sent me down the rabbit hole both on YouTube and over to HBO to watch their outstanding mini series.

Ironically the day after finishing the series while bringing my kids to school, we ran into one of the teaching assistants with a strong accent. I asked where she was from and she replied Ukraine. When I brought up my interest in Chernobyl, she mentioned she was in 6th grade in Ukraine and the gov kept the disaster a secret from her area for over 5 days. Then a bunch of officials descended on the school and began instructing all the children to rub iodine "lotion" on their forearms before bed every night for days and days. She said she'd wake up in the morning and you couldn't tell where it had been rubbed as it was absorbed that quickly, and that "we were given 5% when 2% was the normal strength. Also we had our thyroids checked for years after."

I found this incredibly fascinating, and all-together jarring with how "local" this disaster could feel all these decades later and literally half a world away. It put things into perspective of how truly terrifying it must have been living as a citizen anywhere near there.
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Indeed, thanks for sharing that story! It really did affect everyone.
Link Posted: 12/29/2021 2:20:28 PM EDT
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Thanks for keeping this thread alive. It's much better than longer threads like "most important thread ever" threads.
Link Posted: 12/29/2021 7:50:59 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/29/2021 8:46:45 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By RED_5:
thanks for sharing.  rated this thread as "Epic"
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Thank you Red Leader!
Link Posted: 12/29/2021 9:21:17 PM EDT
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Most excellent!!

All the murals seem to relate to government propaganda.  I guess that's not surprising.  

Does anyone else remember the last Chernobyl photo-essay thread?  I think it was done by some motorcycle tourist chic who joined the site.  She was a Russian IIRC.  Back around 2003 or 2004 I think?
Link Posted: 12/29/2021 9:41:34 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By TheKill:
Most excellent!!

All the murals seem to relate to government propaganda.  I guess that's not surprising.  

Does anyone else remember the last Chernobyl photo-essay thread?  I think it was done by some motorcycle tourist chic who joined the site.  She was a Russian IIRC.  Back around 2003 or 2004 I think?
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Turned out she was just someone that went on one of the tours and brought a motorcycle helmet and took pictures.  Kid of Speed, I think was what she went by.
Link Posted: 12/29/2021 10:20:02 PM EDT
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wow, great thread.
Link Posted: 12/29/2021 10:42:33 PM EDT
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I am officially seriously jelly. I would love to do exactly what you did. A couple of questions...

I am surprised you had a meter. Did they allow it or did you sneak it in?

How does the NSC look in person? I watched the whole doc on the building of it and sliding it into place, but things can look different in person. That was an amazing feat of ingenuity.

Great pictures. Thank you so much for posting them.
Link Posted: 12/29/2021 10:55:00 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By mamacujo:
I am officially seriously jelly. I would love to do exactly what you did. A couple of questions...

I am surprised you had a meter. Did they allow it or did you sneak it in?

How does the NSC look in person? I watched the whole doc on the building of it and sliding it into place, but things can look different in person. That was an amazing feat of ingenuity.

Great pictures. Thank you so much for posting them.
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Yeah no issues taking it in.

It looked huge.
Link Posted: 12/29/2021 10:58:21 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By JustinHEMI04:

Yeah no issues taking it in.

It looked huge.
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Originally Posted By JustinHEMI04:
Originally Posted By mamacujo:
I am officially seriously jelly. I would love to do exactly what you did. A couple of questions...

I am surprised you had a meter. Did they allow it or did you sneak it in?

How does the NSC look in person? I watched the whole doc on the building of it and sliding it into place, but things can look different in person. That was an amazing feat of ingenuity.

Great pictures. Thank you so much for posting them.

Yeah no issues taking it in.

It looked huge.



lolll I bet it did.
Link Posted: 12/29/2021 11:26:38 PM EDT
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I am jealous OP. This tour is on my nuclear bucket list as well.

I liked your pics of NIS equipment in particular.

I feel like I have seen before but I've either forgotten or am mistemembering.

Was there any indication of whether RBMK SRMs, IRMs, and PRMs are fixed or movable?
Link Posted: 12/29/2021 11:33:56 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By zcrane1987:
I am jealous OP. This tour is on my nuclear bucket list as well.

I liked your pics of NIS equipment in particular.

I feel like I have seen before but I've either forgotten or am mistemembering.

Was there any indication of whether RBMK SRMs, IRMs, and PRMs are fixed or movable?
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I didn't look for that specifically in the time I had, but nothing jumped out at being obvious for moveable.
Link Posted: 12/30/2021 1:33:31 AM EDT
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Awesome thread, pictures are outstanding.
Link Posted: 1/2/2022 12:10:42 AM EDT
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Very cool.

And thanks for posting the minimally processed pics. I'm a fan of minimal processed/edited photos. I think the net is becoming too saturated () with enhanced pics. Kind of blurring the line between capturing reality and molding it, IMO. That's not to say it isn't an art form in its own right.
Link Posted: 1/5/2022 2:54:33 PM EDT
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A cool thread that deserves a bump
Link Posted: 1/5/2022 3:19:44 PM EDT
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Got a new book the other day.
Link Posted: 1/5/2022 3:43:55 PM EDT
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OP,  this is one of the best posts I’ve seen and why I love GD. That place would creep me out, not to mention the harmful radiation exposure. Very cool!
Link Posted: 1/5/2022 5:24:34 PM EDT
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Thanks gents!
Link Posted: 1/5/2022 6:39:02 PM EDT
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OP, what's your take on the whole Karen Silkwood / Kerr-McGee Cimarron Fuel Fabrication Site plant "conspiracy"?   Do you think she was murdered over her whistleblowing?    I'm not a native Okie and I never heard about this story until very recently.  I guess I figure this is sort of right up your alley-ish.

For those that haven't heard, this will get you started down the rabbit hole:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_Silkwood
Karen Gay Silkwood (February 19, 1946 – November 13, 1974) was an American chemical technician and labor union activist known for raising concerns about corporate practices related to health and safety in a nuclear facility.

She worked at the Kerr-McGee Cimarron Fuel Fabrication Site in Oklahoma, making plutonium pellets, and became the first woman on the union's negotiating team. After testifying to the Atomic Energy Commission about her concerns, she was found to have plutonium contamination on her person and in her home. While driving to meet with a New York Times journalist and an official of her union's national office, she died in a car crash under unclear circumstances.

Her family sued Kerr-McGee for the plutonium contamination of Silkwood. The company settled out of court for US $1.38 million, while not admitting liability. Her story was chronicled in Mike Nichols's 1983 Academy Award nominated film Silkwood in which she was portrayed by Meryl Streep.
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Link Posted: 1/5/2022 6:57:48 PM EDT
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I have no take on it as I'm not familiar with the story at all.
Link Posted: 2/24/2022 5:06:30 PM EDT
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I guess this trip was perfectly timed.
Link Posted: 2/24/2022 5:08:30 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By JustinHEMI04:
I guess this trip was perfectly timed.
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So it would seem...
Link Posted: 3/3/2022 8:06:29 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By JustinU235:
I guess this trip was perfectly timed.
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You and this amazing post popped into my head as soon as I heard about the invasion.
Link Posted: 3/3/2022 8:23:17 PM EDT
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You and this amazing post popped into my head as soon as I heard about the invasion.
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I keep thinking about all the people I interacted with. My guide was posting on Instagram from a Kyiv bomb shelter but has gone dark.
Link Posted: 3/3/2022 8:35:25 PM EDT
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Thanks for sharing, very interesting,I remember it happening, I was maybe a junior in high school.  Thar hbo series was terrifying, poor workers and locals.
Link Posted: 4/26/2022 2:08:50 AM EDT
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36 years.
Link Posted: 8/19/2022 9:49:14 PM EDT
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So you flew into a war zone to  visit a nuclear disaster sirt?   You and I have very different ideas of a vacation.
Link Posted: 8/19/2022 9:53:30 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 2tired2run:
So you flew into a war zone to  visit a nuclear disaster sirt?   You and I have very different ideas of a vacation.
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To be fair, it wasn't a war zone yet.
Link Posted: 8/19/2022 11:14:21 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/20/2022 7:13:35 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Zhukov:
Going back now that I've watched the series for a third time...

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51771274315_ea4c389771_b.jpg

So I'm looking at control rods sticking out of graphite blocks I assume, with the steel caps still in place over other the blocks that hold the fuel rods? If so: Based on schematics I saw of the RBMK reactor, the water flowed right through the fuel rod bundle inside the reactor. Quick questions: The biological shield is pretty thick, so the heated water exits the fuel rod channels quite a bit lower, right? How do they seal the graphite block channels to prevent water at very high pressure from making it out the top of the reactor?
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Pressure tubes.

https://energyeducation.ca/encyclopedia/RBMK





Link Posted: 8/20/2022 7:28:51 AM EDT
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Awesome write up and pictures, OP. Excellent job.
Link Posted: 8/20/2022 9:12:42 AM EDT
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EPIC thread op.     Well done.
Link Posted: 8/20/2022 11:43:29 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/9/2022 11:18:37 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Keekleberrys:
Donno how i missed this. Bad ass thread op.
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Link Posted: 9/9/2022 11:22:25 PM EDT
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Holy crap how did I miss this?

These are all amazing.... thanks for sharing!
Link Posted: 9/10/2022 12:35:38 AM EDT
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Catching up on things what was the significance of....."Chernobyl 4 reactor control panel. The spot Akimov pushed the button."
Link Posted: 9/10/2022 12:38:30 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Notcalifornialegal:
Holy crap how did I miss this?

These are all amazing.... thanks for sharing!
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Originally Posted By 2tired2run:
Catching up on things what was the significance of....."Chernobyl 4 reactor control panel. The spot Akimov pushed the button."
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That's where he pushed  az5, the "scram" button, which was the final link in the chain of events that led to the disaster.
Link Posted: 9/10/2022 9:42:23 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By 2tired2run:
Catching up on things what was the significance of....."Chernobyl 4 reactor control panel. The spot Akimov pushed the button."
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@2tired2run

This'll give context.

Chernobyl (2019) - Use of AZ-5 Button

Link Posted: 9/10/2022 10:35:17 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By JustinU235:

@2tired2run

This'll give context.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=374jirm1Lr4
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Originally Posted By 2tired2run:
Catching up on things what was the significance of....."Chernobyl 4 reactor control panel. The spot Akimov pushed the button."

@2tired2run

This'll give context.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=374jirm1Lr4



Holy s*&t ......the shut down mechanism would accelerate the reaction.l
Link Posted: 9/10/2022 10:39:31 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By 2tired2run:



Holy s*&t ......the shut down mechanism would accelerate the reaction.l
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I highly recommend watching the 5 hour HBO Chernobyl miniseries.
Link Posted: 9/10/2022 11:36:23 AM EDT
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Nice photos, I have watched YouTube videos of people sneaking in and camping out.  Crazy.
Link Posted: 9/10/2022 11:41:19 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By JustinU235:

I highly recommend watching the 5 hour HBO Chernobyl miniseries.
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Originally Posted By JustinU235:
Originally Posted By 2tired2run:



Holy s*&t ......the shut down mechanism would accelerate the reaction.l

I highly recommend watching the 5 hour HBO Chernobyl miniseries.


It's one of my favs... I recommend it as well.

Pretty ballsy going to Ukraine right now w/ everything going on.  Kinda off topic, did you go over there to fight? (I didn't get that impression from the OP).. Have you seen any hostilities?

Great pics.

Thanks for posting.
Link Posted: 9/10/2022 1:19:49 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By JustinU235:

Yes she asked if I wanted to go there. I did not.
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Looks like an awesome trip OP. Did your guide know how to find the claw?

Yes she asked if I wanted to go there. I did not.


What is the claw?

One of the best threads ive ever read here. Thank you.
Link Posted: 9/10/2022 1:24:53 PM EDT
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What is the claw?

One of the best threads ive ever read here. Thank you.
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Originally Posted By JustinU235:
Originally Posted By nisa715:
Looks like an awesome trip OP. Did your guide know how to find the claw?

Yes she asked if I wanted to go there. I did not.


What is the claw?

One of the best threads ive ever read here. Thank you.


https://chernobylstory.com/blog/the-claw-of-death/


Not an expert on radioactivity obviously so no idea if this article is accurate.
Link Posted: 9/10/2022 1:28:13 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By IndyGunFreak:


It's one of my favs... I recommend it as well.

Pretty ballsy going to Ukraine right now w/ everything going on.  Kinda off topic, did you go over there to fight? (I didn't get that impression from the OP).. Have you seen any hostilities?

Great pics.

Thanks for posting.
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No I went in December just before Christmas.
Link Posted: 9/10/2022 7:27:12 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By JustinU235:


No I went in December just before Christmas.
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It's one of my favs... I recommend it as well.

Pretty ballsy going to Ukraine right now w/ everything going on.  Kinda off topic, did you go over there to fight? (I didn't get that impression from the OP).. Have you seen any hostilities?

Great pics.

Thanks for posting.


No I went in December just before Christmas.


AH Ok... Missed the date on the thread.
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