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MA, USA
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Posted: 7/14/2022 10:20:22 PM EDT
[#1]
Talking to the popo is the worst idea, always.
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Posted: 7/14/2022 10:20:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SuperX925: Should be thrown out. Complete nonsense. Does PLCAA provide for attorney's fees when plaintiffs violate it? |
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Posted: 7/14/2022 10:21:06 PM EDT
[#3]
What a crock of shit. This is all getting out of control.
Drunk driver kills a pedestrian. So you can sue the car manufacturer and the alcohol company. Got it. Pants on head retarded. |
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Posted: 7/14/2022 10:21:15 PM EDT
[#4]
 If she had used pills would they have sued Pfizer?
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Posted: 7/14/2022 10:21:29 PM EDT
[#5]
So... This guy filled out a 4473? Answered the question on the 4473 that asks if he is buyi g the gun for himself?
Passed the NICS check? And somehow it's YOUR fault he gave the gun to her?? |
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Posted: 7/14/2022 10:21:30 PM EDT
[#6]
Ug, they named you individually.
stay strong friend. |
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Posted: 7/14/2022 10:21:55 PM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ar154all: This is bullshit. Get a GoFundMe. This effects us all. If everyone here coughs up $25, you'll probably be covered Stryker (sp?) still approves these things? |
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Posted: 7/14/2022 10:22:29 PM EDT
[#8]
Locked pending review by Striker for fundraising request.
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Posted: 7/14/2022 10:34:20 PM EDT
[#9]
Unlocked. OP has information.
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MO, USA
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Posted: 7/14/2022 10:35:32 PM EDT
[#10]
Its interesting how they equate "employees should ask a couple of questions" with "ADCO failed to pepper them with questions."
It should be pretty easy to turn things against the plaintiff when their complaint is so full of extraneous and subjective BS. That and there's plenty of room with the way the complaint is written to suggest that the plaintiff is disparaging of atypical couples or relationships. Legally it doesn't matter, but pointing out how aghast the plaintiff is about the age disparity and "odd dynamic" between the two and how that shows that the plaintiff is clearly biased, bigoted, and closed minded about modern interpersonal relationships whereas ADCO is not might appeal to people on the jury. Heck, I bet you could argue that their complaint is fundamentally flawed as an "adoring father" should have known his daughter bought a gun, and that it is far more his responsibility to prevent her death than ADCO's. I also wonder if you could successfully argue that if the complaint holds that ADCO is filling the role of law enforcement as they hold a Federal license, then ADCO should be counted as federal law enforcement and as such should enjoy the protections of qualified immunity. After all, many many court cases have ruled that the government has no responsibility to protect individual life, even when action/inaction on its part demonstrably causes loss of life (Uvalde anyone?) If the government's system does not adequately prevent straw purchases, then any negligence is on the part of congress, not those tasked with enforcing flawed policies. But i'm not a lawyer and didn't sleep at a holiday inn express. In any event; to hell with ambulance chasers. |
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Posted: 7/14/2022 10:37:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: davewvu86]
[#11]
The notion that you're liable to a woman who committed a felony and evidently recruited a second person to commit another felony to aid her in the commission of a felony is disgusting.
This allows the felon (or at the estate of the deceased) to profit from her crime. I'm sorry you're going through this OP. It's bullshit. |
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Posted: 7/14/2022 10:38:09 PM EDT
[#12]
Everybody knows the odd dynamic between a 70 year old and a girlfriend half his age.
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Posted: 7/14/2022 10:38:43 PM EDT
[#13]
Please hire a shark who hates leftists and countersue!
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Posted: 7/14/2022 10:38:58 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HRoark87: What a bunch of bullshit. |
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Posted: 7/14/2022 10:39:13 PM EDT
[#15]
Contact GOA? If they help you out I will contribute as a life member.
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Posted: 7/14/2022 10:39:37 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 96Ag: Please hire a shark who hates leftists and countersue! |
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Posted: 7/14/2022 10:39:55 PM EDT
[#17]
Ambulance chasing dirtbag lawyers.
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Posted: 7/14/2022 10:40:02 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ar154all: This is bullshit. Get a GoFundMe. This effects us all. If everyone here coughs up $25, you'll probably be covered Stryker (sp?) still approves these things? Or this, I will pitch in. |
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Posted: 7/14/2022 10:40:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: LuckyDucky]
[#19]
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/14/2022 10:41:19 PM EDT
[#20]
That’s some major bullshit but will be expensive bullshit.
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Posted: 7/14/2022 10:41:52 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JackRebney: I swear I saw a version of this story posted a couple days ago and I don't think ADCO was mentioned. Any judge that doesn't throw this out immediately is a piece of shit. There are a ton of absolute piece of shit judges. Hopefully OP gets one with even an ounce of fairness and knowledge of the law. |
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Posted: 7/14/2022 10:42:49 PM EDT
[#22]
I'll chip in.
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Posted: 7/14/2022 10:43:39 PM EDT
[#23]
I'll recommend givesendgo over a gofundme. They'll probably shut it down over their liberal sensibilities.
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Posted: 7/14/2022 10:44:15 PM EDT
[#24]
@BigBore
If you make some product, say along the line of the Dillo's LaRue makes to Nolo, I will purchase. I bet everybody will. Not a freebie fundraiser, everybody wins, and has a token to show for it. Just sayin.... Or you get a givesendgo I will donate to that. Just brain storming. |
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Posted: 7/14/2022 10:45:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Heartbreaker1373]
[#25]
Straw purchases are typically the opposite gender wise.
How is a dealer supposed to be psychic? If nothing seems hinky, the sale is going to happen. Sounds like scum sucking ambulance chaser type lawyers. ETA: corrected spelling, derp |
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Posted: 7/14/2022 10:46:51 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PeepEater: Everybody knows the odd dynamic between a 70 year old and a girlfriend half his age. 100% This. |
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Posted: 7/14/2022 10:47:25 PM EDT
[#27]
Ok
so 70 yo retard needs to be sued! I have had an issue with Adco, but this lawsuit is complete bullshit! |
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CT, USA
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Posted: 7/14/2022 10:47:45 PM EDT
[#28]
This should get tossed because it's only a straw purchase if the gun store knows the buyer is purchasing the firearm for a prohibitive person.
It doesn't matter if the prohibitive person is in the store with the buyer or sitting at home. ADCO didn't know it was being purchased for someone else . Good lawyer should get this tossed out, |
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USA
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Posted: 7/14/2022 10:48:40 PM EDT
[#29]
Not seeing proximate causation. This should be dismissed at summary judgment.
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CT, USA
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Posted: 7/14/2022 10:49:19 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Heartbreaker1373: Straw purchases are typically the opposite gender wise. How is a dealer supposed to be psychic? If nothing seems hinky, the same is going to happen. Sounds like scum sucking ambulance chaser type lawyers. That's all it is |
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Posted: 7/14/2022 10:49:24 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 96Ag: Please hire a shark who hates leftists and countersue! Check with Firearms Policy Coalition (FPC)!! |
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Posted: 7/14/2022 10:51:10 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Texaspyro21: Legal fund that we can donate to? This. |
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Posted: 7/14/2022 10:51:34 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mPisi: Check with Firearms Policy Coalition (FPC)!! @Nolo-Contendere |
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Posted: 7/14/2022 10:52:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: J-Pat]
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lug1: @BigBore If you make some product, say along the line of the Dillo's LaRue makes to Nolo, I will purchase. I bet everybody will. Not a freebie fundraiser, everybody wins, and has a token to show for it. Just sayin.... Or you get a givesendgo I will donate to that. Just brain storming. Hacked off bits of barrels cut to be bottle openers on keychains. I'm in. |
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Posted: 7/14/2022 10:54:30 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By J-Pat: @Lug1 Hacked off bits of barrels cut to be bottle openers on keychains. I'm in. Me too! |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 7/14/2022 10:55:47 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ar154all: This is bullshit. Get a GoFundMe. This effects us all. If everyone here coughs up $25, you'll probably be covered Stryker (sp?) still approves these things? Gofuckme would just shut it down. Lets not keep making the same mistakes, it makes us look retarded. Maybe try givesendgo. |
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Posted: 7/14/2022 10:56:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: LuckyDucky]
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Posted: 7/14/2022 10:56:52 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cole2534: Godspeed and good luck, dude. Please let us know how we can help.  This I’ve never sent anything to you but I’ve heard so many good things. Someone pass the word if there is a way we can help. |
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Posted: 7/14/2022 10:57:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: PreemptiveStrike]
[#39]
So a quick read of the police report says that some idiot straw purchased a gun for a crazy chick and she killed herself with it.
If anyone is liable then it would be him. I'm sure these 2 weren't the first people you've had come into your shop that seemed "odd". Probably going to cost you a bunch in legal fees but you're not liable if you followed all the rules. Hopefully you can counter sue and recover your losses. You've been a long time contributor here since before I joined this site and hopefully this community/site supports you as well. ETA: IM sent I'm in for $100. I've spent that for the larue/Nolo fund before, maybe they can do something as well. |
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UT, USA
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Posted: 7/14/2022 10:58:31 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Alex_F: Sounds like the guy admitted to making a straw purchase, not sure why ADCO is at fault for that. 70 year old dude doesn't have the deep pockets (insurance) a business does. Its not about holding a business accountable, its about money. Like always. 
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CA, USA
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Posted: 7/14/2022 10:58:34 PM EDT
[#41]
Should be immediately dismissed with prejudice. The Brady Bunch is a bunch of frauds.
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OH, USA
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Posted: 7/14/2022 10:59:21 PM EDT
[#42]
Karma.
I hope the people filing get some. |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 7/14/2022 10:59:28 PM EDT
[#43]
Sorry to hear you are going through this.
I was just in your store last week, I am lucky enough to live close enough to drive. Dude lied on the form for a women half his age who admitted to having mental problems…..yep…..your fault. BS |
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Posted: 7/14/2022 11:00:48 PM EDT
[#44]
Let's figure out a way to help. What a bunch of BS
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USA
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Posted: 7/14/2022 11:02:04 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dr-G: Drunk driver kills a pedestrian. So you can sue the car manufacturer and the alcohol company. Got it. That's where we're headed. |
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Posted: 7/14/2022 11:02:19 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LuckyDucky: This is incorrect under abramski. Care to elaborate for those of us who have not passed the Bar. |
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Posted: 7/14/2022 11:02:36 PM EDT
[#47]
Good luck man. It's a bullshit case to start. You had no way of knowing that it was not for the dude and its practically impossible to prove.
I've been sitting on some work that I've been wanting to get done, I'm going to send it to you on Monday. Hopefully even my little bit will help.... |
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Posted: 7/14/2022 11:02:52 PM EDT
[#48]
I'm in to help. That's a crock of warm bullshit.
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NM, USA
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Posted: 7/14/2022 11:04:01 PM EDT
[#49]
Best wishes. Didn't you lock the other thread on this?
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Posted: 7/14/2022 11:04:32 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ar154all: This is bullshit. Get a GoFundMe. This effects us all. If everyone here coughs up $25, you'll probably be covered Stryker (sp?) still approves these things? Me too. I quite like adco |
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