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Posted: 1/3/2023 6:23:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ZMV: Last I heard it was Europe only. Did that change? It wouldn't be the first time Europe got the model first. They got the Tenere 700 a year earlier than us. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 1/3/2023 6:28:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kanati: Yep. Did a long dual sport ride this weekend and it was a T700 that was having problems the entire day. He finally gave up and split off to go home when we got near some pavement. It seemed that tires were his biggest problem. If a dual sport ride was on the agenda I'd rather ride my WR450 supermoto with the supersport tires offroad than my 1190r on knobs. Big pigs flat out suck in more changeling conditions unless you are a god. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 6:58:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ZMV: Last I heard it was Europe only. Did that change? There is no way this stays in Europe. It will be here, Honda would be insane not to bring it. |
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USA
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Posted: 1/3/2023 7:03:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BikerNut: I'd tell my son to keep his CB500X a few more years and then just get the 1100 Africa Twin. I like the F850GS myself. I did a 500-mile day on one and it was practically perfect. The Halfrica Twin!  
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Posted: 1/3/2023 7:08:46 PM EDT
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heavy as fuck and underpowered
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Posted: 1/3/2023 7:15:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zak-Smith: heavy as fuck and underpowered Here is an older drag race between KTMs offerings:  Drag Race! KTM 790 Adventure R vs 1290 Super Adventure R Skip to 1:20. The 790 consistently out accelerated the 1290 up until 100mph at which point the 1290 could finally start showing the hp advantage. To keep on calling these things underpowered because they fall flat after 100mph is just silly. It's an adventure bike. Either you take it off road, in which case you have tires that shouldn't be going much above 100mph to begin with, or you are looking to go fast in which case why the heck did you buy a bike with a 21inch front wheel? |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 1/3/2023 7:17:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Canoeguy: I think people would be shocked at how much power they actually use 99% of the time. My GSA has a bunch but looking at RPMs and average usage I am typically around 60hp. I know, it’s a shocker that ADV riders aren’t screaming around at 12 thousand RPMs. HP in most modern 700cc bikes is just bullshit on paper, not real world usage. I agree. I find myself riding to an mpg more than anything. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 7:21:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ulster: Originally Posted By BikerNut: I'd tell my son to keep his CB500X a few more years and then just get the 1100 Africa Twin. I like the F850GS myself. I did a 500-mile day on one and it was practically perfect. The Halfrica Twin! https://i.postimg.cc/bw46YkFF/fishing-allowed.jpg I sold my 1200GS a couple of years ago, and if I were to buy a new bike it would be a CB500x. It's simply all the bike I need, to do what I do on a bike. 
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Posted: 1/3/2023 7:23:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ayada: Here is an older drag race between KTMs offerings:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w23f_V1Jh4ISkip to 1:20. The 790 consistently out accelerated the 1290 up until 100mph at which point the 1290 could finally start showing the hp advantage. To keep on calling these things underpowered because they fall flat after 100mph is just silly. It's an adventure bike. Either you take it off road, in which case you have tires that shouldn't be going much above 100mph to begin with, or you are looking to go fast in which case why the heck did you buy a bike with a 21inch front wheel? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ayada: Originally Posted By Zak-Smith: heavy as fuck and underpowered Here is an older drag race between KTMs offerings: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w23f_V1Jh4ISkip to 1:20. The 790 consistently out accelerated the 1290 up until 100mph at which point the 1290 could finally start showing the hp advantage. To keep on calling these things underpowered because they fall flat after 100mph is just silly. It's an adventure bike. Either you take it off road, in which case you have tires that shouldn't be going much above 100mph to begin with, or you are looking to go fast in which case why the heck did you buy a bike with a 21inch front wheel? How much much of that is due to the 110 pound weight difference? |
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USA
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Posted: 1/3/2023 7:24:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SC4eyes: I sold my 1200GS a couple of years ago, and if I were to buy a new bike it would be a CB500x. It's simply all the bike I need, to do what I do on a bike. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SC4eyes: Originally Posted By Ulster: Originally Posted By BikerNut: I'd tell my son to keep his CB500X a few more years and then just get the 1100 Africa Twin. I like the F850GS myself. I did a 500-mile day on one and it was practically perfect. The Halfrica Twin! https://i.postimg.cc/bw46YkFF/fishing-allowed.jpg I sold my 1200GS a couple of years ago, and if I were to buy a new bike it would be a CB500x. It's simply all the bike I need, to do what I do on a bike. Agreed. It's the perfect size for me and the type of riding I do. And having a 7k price tag helps too.   |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 7:25:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: flyhack72]
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ulster: Originally Posted By BikerNut: I'd tell my son to keep his CB500X a few more years and then just get the 1100 Africa Twin. I like the F850GS myself. I did a 500-mile day on one and it was practically perfect. The Halfrica Twin! https://i.postimg.cc/bw46YkFF/fishing-allowed.jpg The linear progression of Honda's adventure offerings are: 150 ADV CB500X NC750X TransAlp Africa Twin 1100 Honda has been planning this for a few years. It's been baked in the design renderings and prototypes. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 7:27:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ulster: Agreed. It's the perfect size for me and the type of riding I do. And having a 7k price tag helps too. https://i.postimg.cc/DzwdFmkp/20220730-142403.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ulster: Originally Posted By SC4eyes: Originally Posted By Ulster: Originally Posted By BikerNut: I'd tell my son to keep his CB500X a few more years and then just get the 1100 Africa Twin. I like the F850GS myself. I did a 500-mile day on one and it was practically perfect. The Halfrica Twin! https://i.postimg.cc/bw46YkFF/fishing-allowed.jpg I sold my 1200GS a couple of years ago, and if I were to buy a new bike it would be a CB500x. It's simply all the bike I need, to do what I do on a bike. Agreed. It's the perfect size for me and the type of riding I do. And having a 7k price tag helps too. https://i.postimg.cc/DzwdFmkp/20220730-142403.jpg It is an awesome bike. 80mpg is a bonus! |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 7:28:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Canoeguy]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BubbasBarNGrill: How much much of that is due to the 110 pound weight difference? All of it. It’s power to weight ratio. At the end of the day that is what matters when it comes to power and races like this. ETA: of course there can be gearing differences as well but these bikes are likely geared closely. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 7:29:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Ayada]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BubbasBarNGrill: How much much of that is due to the 110 pound weight difference? Probably not as much as you think, having driven them back to back personally the 1290 on "adventure" tires is really limited between traction and wheelie control trying to keep the thing planted. The 790 would just scoot right off the line in a very predictable and fun matter. The 890 is even better. As fun as the v-twin engine is on the KTM, it's much more enjoyable on a super duke with a chassis that's designed to fully take advantage of that power. If KTM ever does a demo ride near you, I'd suggest making a day of it and riding as much as you can. Even if you have no interest in buying their bikes, it's a free day of riding someone else's motorcycles and what's not fun about that? |
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USA
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Posted: 1/3/2023 7:33:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By flyhack72: It is an awesome bike. 80mpg is a bonus! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By flyhack72: Originally Posted By Ulster: Originally Posted By SC4eyes: Originally Posted By Ulster: Originally Posted By BikerNut: I'd tell my son to keep his CB500X a few more years and then just get the 1100 Africa Twin. I like the F850GS myself. I did a 500-mile day on one and it was practically perfect. The Halfrica Twin! https://i.postimg.cc/bw46YkFF/fishing-allowed.jpg I sold my 1200GS a couple of years ago, and if I were to buy a new bike it would be a CB500x. It's simply all the bike I need, to do what I do on a bike. Agreed. It's the perfect size for me and the type of riding I do. And having a 7k price tag helps too. https://i.postimg.cc/DzwdFmkp/20220730-142403.jpg It is an awesome bike. 80mpg is a bonus! I get 65 mpg...but I'm 200+ pounds, with gear.  |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 1/3/2023 7:44:54 PM EDT
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I had a KLR650 for a while - my first bike. Liked it but sold it. I’ve been thinking about getting the new fuel injected one, but the T700, CBX500 and now this new Transalp are compelling choices for the riding I did and want to do again.
I’m not a fast rider. The KLR kind of checks the boxes for me, but I’ve always lusted after the old Transalp’s. Glad they’re back. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 7:51:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Abbysdaddy04: I had a KLR650 for a while - my first bike. Liked it but sold it. I’ve been thinking about getting the new fuel injected one, but the T700, CBX500 and now this new Transalp are compelling choices for the riding I did and want to do again. I’m not a fast rider. The KLR kind of checks the boxes for me, but I’ve always lusted after the old Transalp’s. Glad they’re back. The new KLR is a huge porker. Like 480 pounds and still 36hp. Now I have a special place in my heart for KLRs but buy a pre-08 for $2500. If you have to have fuel injection then these new bikes are hard to beat but I would honestly consider the CB. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 7:52:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ayada: Probably not as much as you think, having driven them back to back personally the 1290 on "adventure" tires is really limited between traction and wheelie control trying to keep the thing planted. The 790 would just scoot right off the line in a very predictable and fun matter. The 890 is even better. As fun as the v-twin engine is on the KTM, it's much more enjoyable on a super duke with a chassis that's designed to fully take advantage of that power. If KTM ever does a demo ride near you, I'd suggest making a day of it and riding as much as you can. Even if you have no interest in buying their bikes, it's a free day of riding someone else's motorcycles and what's not fun about that? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ayada: Originally Posted By BubbasBarNGrill: How much much of that is due to the 110 pound weight difference? Probably not as much as you think, having driven them back to back personally the 1290 on "adventure" tires is really limited between traction and wheelie control trying to keep the thing planted. The 790 would just scoot right off the line in a very predictable and fun matter. The 890 is even better. As fun as the v-twin engine is on the KTM, it's much more enjoyable on a super duke with a chassis that's designed to fully take advantage of that power. If KTM ever does a demo ride near you, I'd suggest making a day of it and riding as much as you can. Even if you have no interest in buying their bikes, it's a free day of riding someone else's motorcycles and what's not fun about that? I've ridden most of KTMs current offerings. Went with a SMC R. I'm in the low weight camp. You don't need a ton of power in a LW bike. Agree on the Superduke, they are a riot. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 7:54:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ulster: Originally Posted By BikerNut: I'd tell my son to keep his CB500X a few more years and then just get the 1100 Africa Twin. I like the F850GS myself. I did a 500-mile day on one and it was practically perfect. The Halfrica Twin! https://i.postimg.cc/bw46YkFF/fishing-allowed.jpg Hafrica Single.  Attached File |
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USA
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Posted: 1/3/2023 8:01:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Ulster]
[#20]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bhart89: Hafrica Single. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/23561/4EFC506E-4A1D-46E6-A94C-8D2360B78C8C_jpe-2659569.JPG Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bhart89: Originally Posted By Ulster: Originally Posted By BikerNut: I'd tell my son to keep his CB500X a few more years and then just get the 1100 Africa Twin. I like the F850GS myself. I did a 500-mile day on one and it was practically perfect. The Halfrica Twin! https://i.postimg.cc/bw46YkFF/fishing-allowed.jpg Hafrica Single. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/23561/4EFC506E-4A1D-46E6-A94C-8D2360B78C8C_jpe-2659569.JPG Thump! Thump! Cool sticker! I'm too old and wake up too sore for that. If I could shed 25 years, I'd be owning that for sure. I stick to the road and easy trails now days. Trigger alert below! Like a sheet of ice, but not really.  
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TX, USA
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Posted: 1/3/2023 8:04:43 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Canoeguy: The new KLR is a huge porker. Like 480 pounds and still 36hp. Now I have a special place in my heart for KLRs but buy a pre-08 for $2500. If you have to have fuel injection then these new bikes are hard to beat but I would honestly consider the CB. I’m thinking that’s the way I’ll go. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 8:07:25 PM EDT
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"Adventure Bikes" are just the current fashion. They are essentially "Standards" tarted up to look dirtbike-ish and tough.
The better ones have long travel suspension and decent ground clearance. That long travel suspension helps even on the street, assuming you venture off of good pavement onto bumpy lesser traveled roads. My GS is on pavement almost all the time except for a dirt road here and there. It is an outstanding streetbike. I have no desire to do any "real" off-roading with it. A 250 would be more my speed for that. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 8:13:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Canoeguy]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Emoto: "Adventure Bikes" are just the current fashion. They are essentially "Standards" tarted up to look dirtbike-ish and tough. The better ones have long travel suspension and decent ground clearance. That long travel suspension helps even on the street, assuming you venture off of good pavement onto bumpy lesser traveled roads. My GS is on pavement almost all the time except for a dirt road here and there. It is an outstanding streetbike. I have no desire to do any "real" off-roading with it. A 250 would be more my speed for that. For some of them I certainly agree. Others have geometry more suitable for off road. Some have larger wheels. Some more durable bodywork or strange gas tanks that are set low like KTM. Typically more clearance on fenders for knobbiest and mud. And as you mentioned…more suspension travel. But like I said in the OP people were crashing around the globe on old street bikes. What the new bikes can do is inspire confidence because the bikes can eat up so much. That can lead to different roads than one might would have traveled. And I know I am preaching to the choir because you know all that. ETA: and my GSA is mostly on pavement as well. Though not always. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 8:21:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bhart89: Hafrica Single. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/23561/4EFC506E-4A1D-46E6-A94C-8D2360B78C8C_jpe-2659569.JPG Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bhart89: Originally Posted By Ulster: Originally Posted By BikerNut: I'd tell my son to keep his CB500X a few more years and then just get the 1100 Africa Twin. I like the F850GS myself. I did a 500-mile day on one and it was practically perfect. The Halfrica Twin! https://i.postimg.cc/bw46YkFF/fishing-allowed.jpg Hafrica Single. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/23561/4EFC506E-4A1D-46E6-A94C-8D2360B78C8C_jpe-2659569.JPG I'll probably end up with a bigger twin at some point, and the Transalp is on my watch list. I love riding my bosses CB500. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 1/3/2023 8:25:32 PM EDT
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Underpowered? Geez. LOL I'd say that's pretty good. My VFR750 has 95hp @ ~520lbs. Less torque than the Transalp.
People are rarely riding these things anywhere near peak HP. What such bikes need is less weight. Less weight is beneficial nearly 100% of the time. The only time you'd really need more power is if you're riding at really high elevations and losing power due to the reduction in oxygen. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 8:26:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Canoeguy: Yea...mid-size got fat. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 8:30:46 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ludicrous_Speed: I really like the profile of this bike, and you can tell Honda was really trying hard to hit certain numbers. They're stepping into some pretty steep competition with the Tuareg and Tenere, so we'll see how that goes. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 8:35:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ENGCPT: Looks nice. I just had to sell my super tenere because my carpal tunnel and cervical spine issues were making my arms and hands go numb. You can't ride if you can't work your fingers  No real problems with any of the bikes I've owned since I've started to have physical problems. ZRX1200R, ST1300, latest gen Goldwing, CB1100. I have carpal tunnel problems in my right wrist, arthritis in both wrists, and a C6-C7 fusion with minorish nerve damage to my right shoulder and arm. You might give other bikes a try. Beats hanging it up. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 8:38:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wwace: Taureg is my first choice of the three but I could forgo the dirt capabilities at my age That’s a bike I keep forgetting about. I have been so tied up with work I feel like I am out of the loop on the new bikes coming out. Plus I am very much not in the market. While we are at it is anyone going to March Moto Madness or the BMW MOA rally? |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 1/3/2023 8:41:17 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FuriousYachtsman: Tranny Slap is a good name for a bike. I thought it was Tank Slap. Just kidding, love excellent bikes. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 8:54:52 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By USMC2671: Underpowered? Geez. LOL I'd say that's pretty good. My VFR750 has 95hp @ ~520lbs. Less torque than the Transalp. People are rarely riding these things anywhere near peak HP. What such bikes need is less weight. Less weight is beneficial nearly 100% of the time. The only time you'd really need more power is if you're riding at really high elevations and losing power due to the reduction in oxygen. I'm definitely a "less weight is better" kind of guy, but at the same time there is only so much you can cut off of an adventure bike before it turns into a dirt bike with two cylinders, and BMW's hp2 didn't exactly prove that people wanted that. It's not the leanest mid sized adventure bike to be thrown on the floor, but it's absolutely nowhere near the heaviest. Looking at you, BMW on that note. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 10:32:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ayada: Skip to 1:20. The 790 consistently out accelerated the 1290 up until 100mph at which point the 1290 could finally start showing the hp advantage. To keep on calling these things underpowered because they fall flat after 100mph is just silly. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ayada: Skip to 1:20. The 790 consistently out accelerated the 1290 up until 100mph at which point the 1290 could finally start showing the hp advantage. To keep on calling these things underpowered because they fall flat after 100mph is just silly. The 1290's power to weight ratio is almost 20% more than the 790's. If you gear each one ideally for the target speed the 1290 will beat it. It's an adventure bike. Either you take it off road, in which case you have tires that shouldn't be going much above 100mph to begin with, or you are looking to go fast in which case why the heck did you buy a bike with a 21inch front wheel? I mean, I kind of agree. Except an off road adventure bike should be the most awesome thing you can fit into 300, maybe 350 pounds-- definitely not over 400. If I am going into the 500 +/- 25 lbs class, I want a superbike motor in there, not a wheezing parallel twin that makes 20% less power than 2009 990 Adventure. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 10:36:47 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ayada: I'm definitely a "less weight is better" kind of guy, but at the same time there is only so much you can cut off of an adventure bike before it turns into a dirt bike with two cylinders, and BMW's hp2 didn't exactly prove that people wanted that. What people want is a 690 type chassis with a reliable version of a slightly upsized Aprillia RXV 550 motor. There was a guy on ADVrider who jammed a SV650 motor into a 690 chassis about a decade ago, it can be done. Then we don't end up with a 475 lb "off road" bike. |
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WY, USA
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Posted: 1/4/2023 12:18:06 AM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Canoeguy: The new KLR is a huge porker. Like 480 pounds and still 36hp. Now I have a special place in my heart for KLRs but buy a pre-08 for $2500. If you have to have fuel injection then these new bikes are hard to beat but I would honestly consider the CB. 
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Posted: 1/4/2023 8:08:05 AM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Canoeguy: That’s a bike I keep forgetting about. I have been so tied up with work I feel like I am out of the loop on the new bikes coming out. Plus I am very much not in the market. While we are at it is anyone going to March Moto Madness or the BMW MOA rally? Plans are not solid, but I hope to make the MOA rally since it is within striking distance this year. Maybe there should be an Arfcom gathering. |
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Posted: 1/4/2023 8:20:20 AM EDT
[#36]
Jeez, we're at around 500 lb's for enduros now? Dang...........
And I thought my old 76' TT500 with long travel front and rear suspension, tuned exhaust, aftermarket plastic tank, and some engine mods was heavy................ Wish I had never sold that old beast, actually loved that bike except on tight trails. On sand and for climbing, it was a beast for it's time. |
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Posted: 1/4/2023 8:42:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Emoto: Plans are not solid, but I hope to make the MOA rally since it is within striking distance this year. Maybe there should be an Arfcom gathering. I am on the fence about it though I had a great time at the one time I went to. I have another trip planned not too long after that. Of course the MOA rally is just a long weekend. |
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Posted: 1/4/2023 8:47:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fxntime: Jeez, we're at around 500 lb's for enduros now? Dang........... And I thought my old 76' TT500 with long travel front and rear suspension, tuned exhaust, aftermarket plastic tank, and some engine mods was heavy................ Wish I had never sold that old beast, actually loved that bike except on tight trails. On sand and for climbing, it was a beast for it's time. No, we are at about 230 pounds for a true enduro  Attached FileIf you want a bike that can realistically and comfortably ride every continent then you need something different. |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 1/4/2023 8:49:06 AM EDT
[#39]
That thing looks hideous...
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TX, USA
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Posted: 1/4/2023 8:54:19 AM EDT
[#40]
Less suspension, less fuel capacity, less HP, and barely weighs less than my Triumph 900 RP.
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Posted: 1/4/2023 9:09:15 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Canoeguy]
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stumpy89: Less suspension, less fuel capacity, less HP, and barely weighs less than my Triumph 900 RP. The Tiger is a great bike. I had an 800 not long after they came out. I don't know what the real weight of the Tiger is as they only list it dry but I am guessing 30 to 40 pounds more. I think, and this remains to be seen, but I think a big difference will be price. Edit: hopefully, Triumph can resist the urge to keep making the tiger, bigger and bigger like the Africa twin did. Or the KTM 790 for that matter. |
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Posted: 1/4/2023 9:47:54 AM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Canoeguy: This isnt an old Transalp but rather an Old Africa Twin 750. Regardless it is a really good short movie. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HStqf_02JrEQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By Canoeguy: Originally Posted By Subcanis: Always wanted one of the OG TAs. This isnt an old Transalp but rather an Old Africa Twin 750. Regardless it is a really good short movie. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HStqf_02JrEAwesome landscapes 
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Posted: 1/4/2023 9:50:50 AM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Canoeguy: No, we are at about 230 pounds for a true enduro https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/191077/243B7C6B-739E-427A-9904-C49B6C022AFE_jpe-2659949.JPG If you want a bike that can realistically and comfortably ride every continent then you need something different. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Canoeguy: Originally Posted By fxntime: Jeez, we're at around 500 lb's for enduros now? Dang........... And I thought my old 76' TT500 with long travel front and rear suspension, tuned exhaust, aftermarket plastic tank, and some engine mods was heavy................ Wish I had never sold that old beast, actually loved that bike except on tight trails. On sand and for climbing, it was a beast for it's time. No, we are at about 230 pounds for a true enduro https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/191077/243B7C6B-739E-427A-9904-C49B6C022AFE_jpe-2659949.JPG If you want a bike that can realistically and comfortably ride every continent then you need something different. There are reasons for my eight bikes All tradeoffs.
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Posted: 1/4/2023 10:00:46 AM EDT
[#44]
I’ll keep my KTM 1190 for now. I need a 500 exc now though. Miss my pimped out 2003 KLR660.
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SC, USA
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Posted: 1/4/2023 10:10:02 AM EDT
[#45]
So it's for mostly older fat guys that put 2k a year on it. 250mi of that on dirt
That's what I see with 90% adv around here. |
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Posted: 1/4/2023 10:16:28 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Canoeguy]
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wc22312: So it's for mostly older fat guys that put 2k a year on it. 250mi of that on dirt That's what I see with 90% adv around here. No, it’s for serious travelers who do trips most are scared to do. If others want to buy it as well then who cares? It’s their money. 90% of all “motorcyclist” don’t actually ride. |
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Posted: 1/4/2023 12:51:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Canoeguy: I am on the fence about it though I had a great time at the one time I went to. I have another trip planned not too long after that. Of course the MOA rally is just a long weekend. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Canoeguy: Originally Posted By Emoto: Plans are not solid, but I hope to make the MOA rally since it is within striking distance this year. Maybe there should be an Arfcom gathering. I am on the fence about it though I had a great time at the one time I went to. I have another trip planned not too long after that. Of course the MOA rally is just a long weekend. I've been to a handful of them and always enjoyed myself. Richmond seems like an odd spot to pick. |
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Posted: 1/4/2023 1:02:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Emoto: I've been to a handful of them and always enjoyed myself. Richmond seems like an odd spot to pick. I just had a conversation about that on ADVrider yesterday. Richmond isnt exactly known for its great riding roads. I guess the Chesapeake Bay is an easy ride. |
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Posted: 1/4/2023 1:49:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Canoeguy: I can't say I have ever met anyone who was concerned about the power. Everyone is concerned about weight. And I know you are just trolling but the 500cc enduro is shit for a do all bike I have multiple bikes and I suspect you do as well but not everyone does. One thing I know is that as much as I love my GSA it is indeed a big bitch. It all depends on how experienced you are on what your ridding. Ive ridden them all- 300s are fun but I like my 570s for all around. (250lbs to my size is not a big bike) I have yet to learn the ways of the Jedi with a GSA on dunes. |
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Posted: 1/4/2023 2:24:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Phobby: It all depends on how experienced you are on what your ridding. Ive ridden them all- 300s are fun but I like my 570s for all around. (250lbs to my size is not a big bike) I have yet to learn the ways of the Jedi with a GSA on dunes. Oh’ I am not saying big enduros are bad. But by do all I mean ride to the store, ride on a some back roads or two track, or even load it up with luggage and hit a decent amount of pavement on your way to Ushuaia. That is an ADV bike to me. They can’t replace dirt oriented bikes. |
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