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Posted: 12/15/2023 2:15:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 67Firebird: Doing my first BlueRay, for the third time, and so far I can't get it to have sound. Video is good, but no sound.  Are you using MakeMKV? If so, what audio settings are you using to rip the audio tracks? Are the boxes checked for at least one language? |
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Posted: 12/15/2023 10:03:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rossi: Yes, I also considered privacy and security when choosing the new streaming system. The advantage of Kodi and OSMC is that both are open source and the Vero boxes are designed and made by the same guys who make the OSMC distro. I also tried the Western Digital and Sony streaming boxes. However, their UIs weren't as developed and well built as Kodi's. Kodi's default UI is similar to Plex's. However, there are many skins and customizable options for it. I'm not sure we can still find a "dumb TV". However, if we do not plug them to the Internet they should be as dumb as one gets.  We have 8 televisions and I think most if not all are smart TVs, but none of them are connected to the internet. Instead, they all sport a Roku on the back so we can have the same user interface and remote control on all of them. Not a fan of so-called smart tvs. As noted above, they generally don't have the horsepower for decent client app performance and the navigation UI is usually ass. And if you have more than one TV, having a different user experience on each is a pain in the ass, especially for the non techies in the household. |
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Posted: 12/15/2023 11:24:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rossi: Are you using MakeMKV? If so, what audio settings are you using to rip the audio tracks? Are the boxes checked for at least one language? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rossi: Originally Posted By 67Firebird: Doing my first BlueRay, for the third time, and so far I can't get it to have sound. Video is good, but no sound. Yes, MakeMKV. I don't even know how to find the sound settings, but it worked fine for the DVDs. When I try the BRs, the movie has no sound. If I also rip the other features, like directors videos 3-4min long, those have sound. I can only guess that the movies have some extra protection. |
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Posted: 12/15/2023 12:10:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 67Firebird: Yes, MakeMKV. I don't even know how to find the sound settings, but it worked fine for the DVDs. When I try the BRs, the movie has no sound. If I also rip the other features, like directors videos 3-4min long, those have sound. I can only guess that the movies have some extra protection. What are you playing the files with and have you tried different audio tracks? |
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Posted: 12/15/2023 1:19:37 PM EDT
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I play them with Windows Media Player. I don't know enough to answer about the audio tracks. I don't even know how to find that info.
Here's how I rip them, unchecking all but the largest file. I rename them, so that I can ID them outside of their folders.  |
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Posted: 12/15/2023 1:25:16 PM EDT
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You may find that that the audio track is there, but not selected by default by windows media player.
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Posted: 12/15/2023 1:27:06 PM EDT
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I'll dig around some more, and see if i can find those settings. Thanks.
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Posted: 12/15/2023 3:12:32 PM EDT
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Try using VLC to play them. You can right click and select the audio track.
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Posted: 12/15/2023 3:20:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By flyhack72: Handbrake for ripping This |
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Posted: 12/15/2023 3:23:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Jakezor]
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Originally Posted By 67Firebird: I play them with Windows Media Player. I don't know enough to answer about the audio tracks. I don't even know how to find that info. Here's how I rip them, unchecking all but the largest file. I rename them, so that I can ID them outside of their folders. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/51036/MKV__1__JPG-3060273.jpg Originally Posted By dragoontwo: You may find that that the audio track is there, but not selected by default by windows media player. Originally Posted By 67Firebird: I'll dig around some more, and see if i can find those settings. Thanks. @67Firebird next time you do that hit the > on that biggest title, it will have subtitles, audio tracks, and other stuff in there. ETA I just grabbed a bluray I recently bought but haven't ripped yet:  Attached FileIf anything to make sure you actually ripped the audio with the video. If you're an extreme space mizer you can remove other stuff too. 2nd ETA, ripped at like 4.8x not bad, here is how the audio choice shows up when playing back the MVK in VLC:  Attached FileI just did the 2nd title, the main feature. Ended up as a 10.9GB MKV. |
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Posted: 12/15/2023 7:02:44 PM EDT
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Thank you. It'll probably be tomorrow night before I can get back into it, but I will try all of that. On my 4T drive, I still have 2.3T of free space, so I plan to keep going.
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Posted: 12/16/2023 12:59:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Rossi]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 67Firebird: Thank you. It'll probably be tomorrow night before I can get back into it, but I will try all of that. On my 4T drive, I still have 2.3T of free space, so I plan to keep going. Yep. What others already said. The audio tracks are likely there. I use VLC to check the ripped files and sometimes need to select an audio track because, for some reason, all get disabled in playback. Kodi usually has them enabled by default, so I don't have this problem when streaming them, but not sure how Windows Media Player does it. The interesting thing is why in your case it works differently for DVDs and BDs. I haven't noticed it when doing it here. |
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Posted: 12/16/2023 7:44:05 PM EDT
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I just ripped another BR (I deleted the others, when they didn't play any audio), and it was the same. Then I clicked the drop-down, and it showed that it has sound.
I opened it with VLC, and the sound is there! It still has no sound with Media Player or Windows Media Player, but VLC plays it. 
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Posted: 12/16/2023 10:47:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jahdai42: This Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jahdai42: Originally Posted By flyhack72: Handbrake for ripping I just tried that, and it didn't work. I'm trying to convert one of the previous ones to mp4 right now, but I couldn't get Handbrake to rip anything. 
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Posted: 12/16/2023 10:57:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 67Firebird: I just tried that, and it didn't work. I'm trying to convert one of the previous ones to mp4 right now, but I couldn't get Handbrake to rip anything. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/51036/Handbrake-3061836.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 67Firebird: Originally Posted By Jahdai42: Originally Posted By flyhack72: Handbrake for ripping I just tried that, and it didn't work. I'm trying to convert one of the previous ones to mp4 right now, but I couldn't get Handbrake to rip anything. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/51036/Handbrake-3061836.jpg Go into preferences and change the minimum length from 1800 to 1000 and try again. |
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Posted: 12/16/2023 11:10:15 PM EDT
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Ok I'll try that, when this conversion attempt is done.
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Posted: 12/16/2023 11:23:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 67Firebird: Ok I'll try that, when this conversion attempt is done. Good luck! I just started all of The Big Bang Theory episodes converting. It’s 279 episodes and is going to take 42 hours…ouch! |
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Posted: 12/16/2023 11:35:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheLookingGlass: IMO, It would be much, much easier and quicker to just download a "torrent" of high quality dvd rips through a vpn then to go through the trouble of actually ripping a dvd. This is what I do and I have about 6TB of movies stored on a samba share on my home server. It takes about 4 minutes to download a typical high bitrate 4k movie for me. amateur. |
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Posted: 12/17/2023 12:09:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By General_1: amateur. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By General_1: Originally Posted By TheLookingGlass: IMO, It would be much, much easier and quicker to just download a "torrent" of high quality dvd rips through a vpn then to go through the trouble of actually ripping a dvd. This is what I do and I have about 6TB of movies stored on a samba share on my home server. It takes about 4 minutes to download a typical high bitrate 4k movie for me. amateur. Yeah I didn’t want to say anything but my media directory is right at 50TB now. |
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Posted: 12/17/2023 1:45:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Firestarter123: Go into preferences and change the minimum length from 1800 to 1000 and try again. I couldn't find anywhere to do that. I converted the non-working ones to mp4, and they work now, but I can't rip any more. 
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Posted: 12/17/2023 8:39:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 67Firebird: I couldn't find anywhere to do that. I converted the non-working ones to mp4, and they work now, but I can't rip any more. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 67Firebird: Originally Posted By Firestarter123: Go into preferences and change the minimum length from 1800 to 1000 and try again. I couldn't find anywhere to do that. I converted the non-working ones to mp4, and they work now, but I can't rip any more. Tools —> Preferences Put 1000 where I have 1000:  Attached File |
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Posted: 12/17/2023 8:48:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 67Firebird: I have Roku, Netflix, and Paramount+, but they usually don't have what I'm wanting to watch (watch again). I have about 150 DVDs and 20 Blue-Rays, not counting multi-disk sets like TV series or movies with sequels (Star Trek, Fast + Furious, etc.). I stream newer stuff, but it's limited, and if the internet should go down (storm blocking StarLink), I would still have all of this available through my computer. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 67Firebird: Originally Posted By unknow: I did that several years ago...now I just stream everything and buy movies on Google TV when needed. I have Roku, Netflix, and Paramount+, but they usually don't have what I'm wanting to watch (watch again). I have about 150 DVDs and 20 Blue-Rays, not counting multi-disk sets like TV series or movies with sequels (Star Trek, Fast + Furious, etc.). I stream newer stuff, but it's limited, and if the internet should go down (storm blocking StarLink), I would still have all of this available through my computer. Plex or Kodi ? Picking the right Home Server software is important. |
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Posted: 12/17/2023 8:54:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dlshady: So, I've got another question related to this thread. I've heard al three mentioned so far, but what's everyone's consensus on Plex vs Jellyfin vs Kodi? I started out on Kodi because that's all I knew, but the more I've read about Jellyfin, the more impressed I am. Watched a video the other night about building a dedicated Jellyfin server out of an old HP small desktop and I'm about ready to dive into that, unless someone can convince me that one of the other options is better. I'll probably struggle with the actual server software part, because as soon as they start with all the damn acronyms, containers, SSH'ing into shit and PUtTY and stuff, they might as well be speaking Latin, but I'll get through it somehow. So what's your opinion and why? Kodi is the best player, and has no difficulties with backend storage. |
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Posted: 12/17/2023 8:56:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Firestarter123: Yeah I didn’t want to say anything but my media directory is right at 50TB now. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Firestarter123: Originally Posted By General_1: Originally Posted By TheLookingGlass: IMO, It would be much, much easier and quicker to just download a "torrent" of high quality dvd rips through a vpn then to go through the trouble of actually ripping a dvd. This is what I do and I have about 6TB of movies stored on a samba share on my home server. It takes about 4 minutes to download a typical high bitrate 4k movie for me. amateur. Yeah I didn’t want to say anything but my media directory is right at 50TB now. Sadly typical. 
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Posted: 12/17/2023 11:38:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Firestarter123: Tools > Preferences Put 1000 where I have 1000: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/128059/IMG_6297_jpeg-3062059.JPG Mine said 10 there. I changed it to 1000, and I'll start trying to rip BR again. |
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Posted: 12/17/2023 11:40:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By texashomeserver: Plex or Kodi ? Picking the right Home Server software is important. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By texashomeserver: Originally Posted By 67Firebird: Originally Posted By unknow: I did that several years ago...now I just stream everything and buy movies on Google TV when needed. I have Roku, Netflix, and Paramount+, but they usually don't have what I'm wanting to watch (watch again). I have about 150 DVDs and 20 Blue-Rays, not counting multi-disk sets like TV series or movies with sequels (Star Trek, Fast + Furious, etc.). I stream newer stuff, but it's limited, and if the internet should go down (storm blocking StarLink), I would still have all of this available through my computer. Plex, because my son already has that set up, but I've only logged on to it a couple times. I'm trying to get all of my stuff ripped, before I move on to learning more about Plex. |
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Posted: 12/17/2023 12:44:06 PM EDT
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Nope, it still won't work.
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Posted: 12/17/2023 1:36:39 PM EDT
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I downloaded Free Blu-Ray Ripper, and it opened it right up. It appears that it rips the whole movie with each language version, so I'm going through and trying to decide which file to save.
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Posted: 12/17/2023 2:03:27 PM EDT
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I got it down to one of the 2:20:19 files, plus the Mel Gibson intro, and clicked Convert. It gave me a file that's just a few kb in size, and won't open. These BlueRays are kickin' my butt.
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Posted: 12/17/2023 2:30:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Firestarter123]
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Take a picture of your Preferences screen in Handbrake and post it.
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Posted: 12/17/2023 11:25:16 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/17/2023 11:26:30 PM EDT
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   I didn't do the last two. Nothing worth noting there. |
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Posted: 12/18/2023 11:13:12 AM EDT
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I don't really see anything odd other than you appear to be using a mapped drive (Y:). I'd try saving them to your local drive and then moving them over.
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Posted: 12/18/2023 11:15:00 AM EDT
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The Big Bang Theory stats for the Blu-ray complete series:
Full disk backups total 904GB The conversions using H265 10-bit with a Constant Quality setting of 22 total 296GB I'm done...for now...wohoo!! |
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Posted: 12/18/2023 11:31:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Firestarter123: I don't really see anything odd other than you appear to be using a mapped drive (Y:). I'd try saving them to your local drive and then moving them over. That's the NAS. I put them directly on there, to avoid the extra step of transferring them between drives. |
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Posted: 12/18/2023 1:58:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 67Firebird]
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Free BluRay Ripper wasn't working, so I Uninstalled it.
I made a folder on my desktop for saving ripped Blue-Rays. After I get them all ripped, with MakeMKV, I'll convert them to mp4 with handbrake. Since we determined that the audio is there, with VCL, I figure that they should all work like that. I just did one, and tested it, and it worked. Now I'm just going to rip everything that's left. Oh, I have to uncheck about a million boxes before ripping. All but a very few are the same size, so if I ripped everything it would be huge. 
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Posted: 12/18/2023 2:13:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Jakezor]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 67Firebird: Free BluRay Ripper wasn't working, so I Uninstalled it. I made a folder on my desktop for saving ripped Blue-Rays. After I get them all ripped, with MakeMKV, I'll convert them to mp4 with handbrake. Since we determined that the audio is there, with VCL, I figure that they should all work like that. I just did one, and tested it, and it worked. Now I'm just going to rip everything that's left. Oh, I have to uncheck about a million boxes before ripping. All but a very few are the same size, so if I ripped everything it would be huge. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/51036/sldfear3-3063485.jpg FYI those many titles in the listings are done by "authors" at the publisher that are trying to stymie what they think is piracy. Each "Title" on a bluray disc is essentially a playlist of segments (look at the right for segment map list). Each segment is really a chunk of video. You should be able to right click in there and do "unselect all", save you some time. For Hacksaw Ridge there is a thread on makemkv forum about just that: https://forum.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=15833 Compounding this are the fact that there can be many different versions of the same movie out there. That Hacksaw Ridge thread started in 2017 for example. Were you going to switch to VLC to do playback or are you set on still using Media Player? There are ways you can setup Handbrake to remove or change surround sound if you think you'll never want them. |
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Posted: 12/18/2023 3:29:43 PM EDT
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FYI those many titles in the listings are done by "authors" at the publisher that are trying to stymie what they think is piracy. Each "Title" on a bluray disc is essentially a playlist of segments (look at the right for segment map list). Each segment is really a chunk of video. You should be able to right click in there and do "unselect all", save you some time.
For Hacksaw Ridge there is a thread on makemkv forum about just that: https://forum.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=15833 Compounding this are the fact that there can be many different versions of the same movie out there. That Hacksaw Ridge thread started in 2017 for example. That helps, to understand why there are so many. Most don't have as many as Hacksaw Ridge though. I'll try right-clicking around the next one, to see if I can do that for un-selecting them. Were you going to switch to VLC to do playback or are you set on still using Media Player? There are ways you can setup Handbrake to remove or change surround sound if you think you'll never want them. No, I've never liked VLC very much. I only used it as suggested for seeing if the movie files actually had audio. Until then, I didn't think the audio part had been ripped. I will continue to use Media Player. I'm going to move my rip folder to my NAS though, because my C drive has less than 200g free space. I use it mostly as a boot drive, and do all but temporary storage on other drives. |
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Posted: 12/18/2023 4:22:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Jakezor]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 67Firebird: Were you going to switch to VLC to do playback or are you set on still using Media Player? There are ways you can setup Handbrake to remove or change surround sound if you think you'll never want them. No, I've never liked VLC very much. I only used it as suggested for seeing if the movie files actually had audio. Until then, I didn't think the audio part had been ripped. I will continue to use Media Player. I'm going to move my rip folder to my NAS though, because my C drive has less than 200g free space. I use it mostly as a boot drive, and do all but temporary storage on other drives. Since Media Player does not handle the alternate audio tracks, I think you'd have to strip out the surround sound and leave just the stereo tracks, either when ripping with Makemkv, or when converting to mp4 with Handbrake. ETA it is possible to setup a Profile in Handbrake to accomplish that. |
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Posted: 12/18/2023 7:50:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jakezor: ...you'd have to strip out the surround sound and leave just the stereo tracks ...it is possible to setup a Profile in Handbrake to accomplish that. When I get to that part, I will definitely look for that setting. |
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Posted: 12/18/2023 8:00:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jakezor: FYI those many titles in the listings are done by "authors" at the publisher that are trying to stymie what they think is piracy. Each "Title" on a bluray disc is essentially a playlist of segments (look at the right for segment map list). Each segment is really a chunk of video. You should be able to right click in there and do "unselect all", save you some time. For Hacksaw Ridge there is a thread on makemkv forum about just that: https://forum.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=15833 Compounding this are the fact that there can be many different versions of the same movie out there. That Hacksaw Ridge thread started in 2017 for example. Were you going to switch to VLC to do playback or are you set on still using Media Player? There are ways you can setup Handbrake to remove or change surround sound if you think you'll never want them. I've been sorta following this thread. I bought a license for MakeMKV. I always thought topics like were taboo but after the Playstation revokation I guess more people are seeing the light for digital media and "ownership". |
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Posted: 12/18/2023 9:06:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jayfe87: I always thought topics like were taboo but after the Playstation revokation I guess more people are seeing the light for digital media and "ownership". Maybe for the people who just download it from somewhere, but I bought all of these. I paid for everything that I'm ripping. |
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Posted: 12/18/2023 10:17:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jayfe87: Specifiying a Java JRE bin in the settings of MakeMKV will show the correct playlist for BLu-Ray and omit the rest. (There are portable versions of Java JRE availabe so you don't have to actually install Java JRE for the whole system). I've been sorta following this thread. I bought a license for MakeMKV. I always thought topics like were taboo but after the Playstation revokation I guess more people are seeing the light for digital media and "ownership". I thought i had a portable jre installed and it still showed me a ton of titles for a couple recent discs. I'll have to check that out to make sure. |
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Posted: 12/19/2023 12:38:29 AM EDT
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Ripped about 20 so far today, and still going...
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Posted: 12/19/2023 1:20:11 AM EDT
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Ok when you go to compress them with Handbrake, load a file and look for the audio tab:
 Attached FilePick that, then in the dropdown look for one that says AC3 2.0ch that should be the plain stereo track. You can setup a new preset for this if you will never use surround sound with any of those. That way the only audio track should a regular stereo track well supported by Media Player. |
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Posted: 12/19/2023 2:52:11 AM EDT
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Awesome. I'll refer back to this, when the time comes. Some of these disks take a long time.
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Posted: 12/20/2023 8:30:45 PM EDT
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I did all of the movies, and a couple TV series, and I've almost filled up my 4T drive. There's a bit over 180G of free space, so not enough room to rip another series, at least until I get a couple more drives.
I'm going to start trying to convert them HandBrake, and I'm hoping to do it in bulk. I'll do them individually if I have to, but it would be nice to start it and just let it run. |
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Posted: 12/20/2023 8:35:23 PM EDT
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I started one going. It only had 1 English AC3 5.1 ch., so I'll see how that turns out when it's done. If it works well, I'll try to do the rest in bulk.
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Posted: 12/20/2023 11:20:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 67Firebird: I started one going. It only had 1 English AC3 5.1 ch., so I'll see how that turns out when it's done. If it works well, I'll try to do the rest in bulk. Hope it works! There are ways to queue up many conversions in handbrake, but you'll need to work something out for harddrive space. |
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Posted: 12/20/2023 11:31:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 67Firebird]
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Yeah, I did that first one, and then realized that it adds the new file, rather than replacing it. I'll have to convert one, delete the original, etc. I'll start working on it again tomorrow.
Edit - I even got a warning, for being low on space; 
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