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Link Posted: 4/8/2024 5:52:34 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By fike:


What do Lance Stroll and Mick Schumacher have in common?
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Originally Posted By Elmer_Fudd_Gantry:
Originally Posted By Cypher214:

Williams:  Gets their shit together somehow.  Sargeant gone, Schumacher takes his place.  Albon is there through '25.


I don’t think the Williams chassis department could keep up with the carnage Schumacher would bring. I mean it’s been reported he cost HAAS $2mil in damage.


What do Lance Stroll and Mick Schumacher have in common?


Both are better drivers than anyone in this thread?
Link Posted: 4/8/2024 6:10:36 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By fike:


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They bring dinero.
Link Posted: 4/8/2024 6:39:56 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Elmer_Fudd_Gantry:


They bring dinero.
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Originally Posted By Elmer_Fudd_Gantry:
Originally Posted By fike:


What do Lance Stroll and Mick Schumacher have in common?


They bring dinero.

Yep, and it sounds like Williams could use it.
Link Posted: 4/8/2024 6:43:16 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By exDefensorMilitas:


Both are better drivers than anyone in this thread?
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Originally Posted By fike:
Originally Posted By Elmer_Fudd_Gantry:
Originally Posted By Cypher214:

Williams:  Gets their shit together somehow.  Sargeant gone, Schumacher takes his place.  Albon is there through '25.


I don’t think the Williams chassis department could keep up with the carnage Schumacher would bring. I mean it’s been reported he cost HAAS $2mil in damage.


What do Lance Stroll and Mick Schumacher have in common?


Both are better drivers than anyone in this thread?


That’s a low bar, but appropriate for them.
Link Posted: 4/8/2024 9:16:25 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Cypher214:

Yep, and it sounds like Williams could use it.
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Originally Posted By Cypher214:
Originally Posted By Elmer_Fudd_Gantry:
Originally Posted By fike:


What do Lance Stroll and Mick Schumacher have in common?


They bring dinero.

Yep, and it sounds like Williams could use it.


Estimates of close to $3M after the last two races with both of Albons crashes resulting in damaged chassis.  Just the logistics of sending cars back and forth like that rather than keeping them on the same side of the globe like planned.  Probably will hurt their performance updates later on in a big way.
Link Posted: 4/8/2024 11:01:21 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/8/2024 11:54:38 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By fike:


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They're as shit as their dad?
Link Posted: 4/9/2024 7:51:14 AM EDT
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They're as shit as their dad?
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Originally Posted By fike:


What do Lance Stroll and Mick Schumacher have in common?



They're as shit as their dad?

Mick wishes he had half the talent his dad had.

I don't understand how you got "shit" out of Michael Schumacher's career.
Link Posted: 4/9/2024 9:18:58 AM EDT
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Feeder stalwart Prema are coming to Indycar in 2025. That's interesting as they're a great team, and it almost formalizes the great success F2 drivers are finding this side of the pond.

https://www.indycar.com/news/2024/04/04-09-prema
Link Posted: 4/9/2024 3:09:16 PM EDT
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I keep seeing reference to China 'next week'

but F1 site says Apr 19-21
Link Posted: 4/9/2024 3:13:07 PM EDT
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I keep seeing reference to China 'next week'

but F1 site says Apr 19-21
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Link Posted: 4/9/2024 3:15:01 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By spyk3:



They're as shit as their dad?
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Originally Posted By fike:


What do Lance Stroll and Mick Schumacher have in common?



They're as shit as their dad?


A response so bad it’s actually impressive. Well done.

Link Posted: 4/9/2024 5:20:27 PM EDT
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What the fuck?
Link Posted: 4/9/2024 7:27:50 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Cypher214:
Here's what I'd like to see happen with drivers/teams:

VCARB: I hate to say it but RIC out and Lawson takes his seat.  RIC becomes an F1 commentator/personality because he's obviously a fan favorite.  Unfortunately, he's a better TV personality than a driver at this point.  Yuki stays.

HAAS:  Bearman gets a seat, replacing Hulkenberg.  KMag gets a 1-year extension.

Williams:  Gets their shit together somehow.  Sargeant gone, Schumacher takes his place.  Albon is there through '25.

SauberStakeKick:  Zhou gone, Gasly gets his seat.  Bottas stays another year.  Their pit crew gets their shit together.  This would break up the fight between Gasly and Ocon that often ends in a crash.

Alpine:  Stops sucking ass.  Ocon gets a 1-year extension and Gasly is replaced by Doohan.   I can't imagine another driver wants to go to that team with the current shit show.

Mercedes:  Sainz to Mercedes and he's quicker than Hamilton in the Ferrari because it would be glorious.

Aston Martin:  Lance fucks off to give handjobs to his tennis coach and Drugovich takes his place.  Alonso gets an extension.

McLaren:  No change.

RBR:  Perez remains consistent this season and keeps his seat.  When he's performing well, I can't imagine a better #2 driver.

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I don't see Schumacher coming back.  He had his chance and sadly, he doesn't have his father's level of talent, or even his uncle Ralph's.  

Perez needs to be more consistent.  Saintz would take that seat in a heartbeat if offered to him.  I could see Redbull wanting a better #2.

It is time for Riccardo, Sargent and Stroll to go do something else, whatever that may be.
Link Posted: 4/9/2024 8:00:08 PM EDT
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I don't think RBR are the least bit interested in a #2 that would challenge Max. They want someone happy finishing 2nd to Max. Right now, that's Checo.
Link Posted: 4/9/2024 8:29:21 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By not_sure:

I don't see Schumacher coming back.  He had his chance and sadly, he doesn't have his father's level of talent, or even his uncle Ralph's.  

Perez needs to be more consistent.  Saintz would take that seat in a heartbeat if offered to him.  I could see Redbull wanting a better #2.

It is time for Riccardo, Sargent and Stroll to go do something else, whatever that may be.
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Originally Posted By Cypher214:
Here's what I'd like to see happen with drivers/teams:

VCARB: I hate to say it but RIC out and Lawson takes his seat.  RIC becomes an F1 commentator/personality because he's obviously a fan favorite.  Unfortunately, he's a better TV personality than a driver at this point.  Yuki stays.

HAAS:  Bearman gets a seat, replacing Hulkenberg.  KMag gets a 1-year extension.

Williams:  Gets their shit together somehow.  Sargeant gone, Schumacher takes his place.  Albon is there through '25.

SauberStakeKick:  Zhou gone, Gasly gets his seat.  Bottas stays another year.  Their pit crew gets their shit together.  This would break up the fight between Gasly and Ocon that often ends in a crash.

Alpine:  Stops sucking ass.  Ocon gets a 1-year extension and Gasly is replaced by Doohan.   I can't imagine another driver wants to go to that team with the current shit show.

Mercedes:  Sainz to Mercedes and he's quicker than Hamilton in the Ferrari because it would be glorious.

Aston Martin:  Lance fucks off to give handjobs to his tennis coach and Drugovich takes his place.  Alonso gets an extension.

McLaren:  No change.

RBR:  Perez remains consistent this season and keeps his seat.  When he's performing well, I can't imagine a better #2 driver.


I don't see Schumacher coming back.  He had his chance and sadly, he doesn't have his father's level of talent, or even his uncle Ralph's.  

Perez needs to be more consistent.  Saintz would take that seat in a heartbeat if offered to him.  I could see Redbull wanting a better #2.

It is time for Riccardo, Sargent and Stroll to go do something else, whatever that may be.

Mick is a reserve driver at Mercedes and he's had some time to mature since his abysmal season with Haas.  I think he'll get another chance in F1.

Also, don't forget Zhou in the list of "needs to do something else".  Kid is trash.
Link Posted: 4/9/2024 8:33:06 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Cypher214:

Mick is a reserve driver at Mercedes and he's had some time to mature since his abysmal season with Haas.  I think he'll get another chance in F1.

Also, don't forget Zhou in the list of "needs to do something else".  Kid is trash.
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Tremendous Kudos around Zhou in China. That's a big dollar market for F1. He's safe.
Link Posted: 4/9/2024 8:42:29 PM EDT
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Tremendous Kudos around Zhou in China. That's a big dollar market for F1. He's safe.
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Originally Posted By Esterhase:
Originally Posted By Cypher214:

Mick is a reserve driver at Mercedes and he's had some time to mature since his abysmal season with Haas.  I think he'll get another chance in F1.

Also, don't forget Zhou in the list of "needs to do something else".  Kid is trash.


Tremendous Kudos around Zhou in China. That's a big dollar market for F1. He's safe.

That's the only thing that'll keep him in F1 if he doesn't go away.
Link Posted: 4/9/2024 8:50:49 PM EDT
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Tremendous Kudos around Zhou in China. That's a big dollar market for F1. He's safe.
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Originally Posted By Esterhase:
Originally Posted By Cypher214:

Mick is a reserve driver at Mercedes and he's had some time to mature since his abysmal season with Haas.  I think he'll get another chance in F1.

Also, don't forget Zhou in the list of "needs to do something else".  Kid is trash.


Tremendous Kudos around Zhou in China. That's a big dollar market for F1. He's safe.


We wouldn’t be talking about Mick and a second chance if his father wasn’t Michael. Two years and 43 starts is more than enough.

Zhou is similar. If he wasn’t Chinese and on a team owned by Audi, he’d be gone as well. They started to do a ton a track promo stuff this year with him that we never see.

Maybe Audi can put together a birth right super team with Zhou (representing Audi’s biggest market) and Schumacher (representing Audi’s home market).
Link Posted: 4/9/2024 8:54:35 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Esterhase:
I don't think RBR are the least bit interested in a #2 that would challenge Max. They want someone happy finishing 2nd to Max. Right now, that's Checo.
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Unless Ferrari can challenge for the constructors title. That's where the money is.



Link Posted: 4/10/2024 7:39:48 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Cypher214:
Here's what I'd like to see happen with drivers/teams:

VCARB: I hate to say it but RIC out and Lawson takes his seat.  RIC becomes an F1 commentator/personality because he's obviously a fan favorite.  Unfortunately, he's a better TV personality than a driver at this point.  Yuki stays.

HAAS:  Bearman gets a seat, replacing Hulkenberg.  KMag gets a 1-year extension.

Williams:  Gets their shit together somehow.  Sargeant gone, Schumacher takes his place.  Albon is there through '25.

SauberStakeKick:  Zhou gone, Gasly gets his seat.  Bottas stays another year.  Their pit crew gets their shit together.  This would break up the fight between Gasly and Ocon that often ends in a crash.

Alpine:  Stops sucking ass.  Ocon gets a 1-year extension and Gasly is replaced by Doohan.   I can't imagine another driver wants to go to that team with the current shit show.

Mercedes:  Sainz to Mercedes and he's quicker than Hamilton in the Ferrari because it would be glorious.

Aston Martin:  Lance fucks off to give handjobs to his tennis coach and Drugovich takes his place.  Alonso gets an extension.

McLaren:  No change.

RBR:  Perez remains consistent this season and keeps his seat.  When he's performing well, I can't imagine a better #2 driver.

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Kimi Antonelli will at a minimum be at Williams next year, some even think Toto will put him in the Mercedes as a rookie.
Link Posted: 4/10/2024 8:46:43 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By racerpk11:


Estimates of close to $3M after the last two races with both of Albons crashes resulting in damaged chassis.  Just the logistics of sending cars back and forth like that rather than keeping them on the same side of the globe like planned.  Probably will hurt their performance updates later on in a big way.
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Oof, that’s gotta hurt cap and any spare parts pool. If they can’t get another chassis until Silverstone if they have another wreck we may see another Australia.
Link Posted: 4/10/2024 9:14:05 AM EDT
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Kimi Antonelli will at a minimum be at Williams next year, some even think Toto will put him in the Mercedes as a rookie.
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The Race seems to think so:

The 2025 F1 driver gamble Mercedes is desperate to make

Link Posted: 4/10/2024 9:14:23 AM EDT
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The tub may be just money. Unless there's any significant changes to it, I doubt it will hurt development. I think they're homologated now, so it won't change much. It's just the cost of repair and shipping, which they hopefully accounted for.
Link Posted: 4/10/2024 10:41:53 AM EDT
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Japanese GP 2024 | Highlights | Formula 1 Comedy
Link Posted: 4/10/2024 10:43:06 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Cypher214:

Mick is a reserve driver at Mercedes and he's had some time to mature since his abysmal season with Haas.  I think he'll get another chance in F1.

Also, don't forget Zhou in the list of "needs to do something else".  Kid is trash.
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Originally Posted By Cypher214:
Originally Posted By not_sure:
Originally Posted By Cypher214:
Here's what I'd like to see happen with drivers/teams:

VCARB: I hate to say it but RIC out and Lawson takes his seat.  RIC becomes an F1 commentator/personality because he's obviously a fan favorite.  Unfortunately, he's a better TV personality than a driver at this point.  Yuki stays.

HAAS:  Bearman gets a seat, replacing Hulkenberg.  KMag gets a 1-year extension.

Williams:  Gets their shit together somehow.  Sargeant gone, Schumacher takes his place.  Albon is there through '25.

SauberStakeKick:  Zhou gone, Gasly gets his seat.  Bottas stays another year.  Their pit crew gets their shit together.  This would break up the fight between Gasly and Ocon that often ends in a crash.

Alpine:  Stops sucking ass.  Ocon gets a 1-year extension and Gasly is replaced by Doohan.   I can't imagine another driver wants to go to that team with the current shit show.

Mercedes:  Sainz to Mercedes and he's quicker than Hamilton in the Ferrari because it would be glorious.

Aston Martin:  Lance fucks off to give handjobs to his tennis coach and Drugovich takes his place.  Alonso gets an extension.

McLaren:  No change.

RBR:  Perez remains consistent this season and keeps his seat.  When he's performing well, I can't imagine a better #2 driver.


I don't see Schumacher coming back.  He had his chance and sadly, he doesn't have his father's level of talent, or even his uncle Ralph's.  

Perez needs to be more consistent.  Saintz would take that seat in a heartbeat if offered to him.  I could see Redbull wanting a better #2.

It is time for Riccardo, Sargent and Stroll to go do something else, whatever that may be.

Mick is a reserve driver at Mercedes and he's had some time to mature since his abysmal season with Haas.  I think he'll get another chance in F1.

Also, don't forget Zhou in the list of "needs to do something else".  Kid is trash.


He’s trash, but will be kept because China.
Link Posted: 4/10/2024 10:49:56 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Esterhase:
The tub may be just money. Unless there's any significant changes to it, I doubt it will hurt development. I think they're homologated now, so it won't change much. It's just the cost of repair and shipping, which they hopefully accounted for.
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If you break it down to a budget, all of the teams only have a finite amount of money to spend (be it up to the limit or under). Even the most well funded teams have talked about large accidents causing development issues.

After exhausting your “repairs” allocation, you have to take the money from somewhere else.
Link Posted: 4/10/2024 11:28:54 AM EDT
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Kimi Antonelli will at a minimum be at Williams next year, some even think Toto will put him in the Mercedes as a rookie.
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Originally Posted By DCV_117:
Originally Posted By Cypher214:
Here's what I'd like to see happen with drivers/teams:

VCARB: I hate to say it but RIC out and Lawson takes his seat.  RIC becomes an F1 commentator/personality because he's obviously a fan favorite.  Unfortunately, he's a better TV personality than a driver at this point.  Yuki stays.

HAAS:  Bearman gets a seat, replacing Hulkenberg.  KMag gets a 1-year extension.

Williams:  Gets their shit together somehow.  Sargeant gone, Schumacher takes his place.  Albon is there through '25.

SauberStakeKick:  Zhou gone, Gasly gets his seat.  Bottas stays another year.  Their pit crew gets their shit together.  This would break up the fight between Gasly and Ocon that often ends in a crash.

Alpine:  Stops sucking ass.  Ocon gets a 1-year extension and Gasly is replaced by Doohan.   I can't imagine another driver wants to go to that team with the current shit show.

Mercedes:  Sainz to Mercedes and he's quicker than Hamilton in the Ferrari because it would be glorious.

Aston Martin:  Lance fucks off to give handjobs to his tennis coach and Drugovich takes his place.  Alonso gets an extension.

McLaren:  No change.

RBR:  Perez remains consistent this season and keeps his seat.  When he's performing well, I can't imagine a better #2 driver.




Kimi Antonelli will at a minimum be at Williams next year, some even think Toto will put him in the Mercedes as a rookie.

Fair enough.  He and Mick are interchangeable in that case.
Link Posted: 4/10/2024 1:22:35 PM EDT
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Does China actually have racing besides this one race?  I didn’t think they supported much sports entertainment in any form.
Link Posted: 4/10/2024 1:32:17 PM EDT
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Does China actually have racing besides this one race?  I didn’t think they supported much sports entertainment in any form.
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No particular tradition, but they're using Zhou to make that tradition. That's the marketing angle for him. The first, and all that.
Link Posted: 4/10/2024 1:36:50 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By RattleCanAR:

Does China actually have racing besides this one race?  I didn’t think they supported much sports entertainment in any form.
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He’s trash, but will be kept because China.

Does China actually have racing besides this one race?  I didn’t think they supported much sports entertainment in any form.


They watch a lot of sports.


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I wonder if China gets endless news bumpers about Caitlin Clark, too.
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Does China actually have racing besides this one race?  I didn't think they supported much sports entertainment in any form.
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The Asian Le Mans Series has done some races in China, but that whole series is dying.
Aside from F1, Shanghai circuit also hosts a Formula E race and a number of China-only or Asian regional touring car/GT races.

The Zhuhai circuit doesn't seem to get as much commercial events, but they do have track days and racing education courses.

And of course the Macau street circuit sees some events each year.

Not exactly the racing culture that is in the US or Europe, but it's something I guess.
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The Asian Le Mans Series has done some races in China, but that whole series is dying.
Aside from F1, Shanghai circuit also hosts a Formula E race and a number of China-only or Asian regional touring car/GT races.

The Zhuhai circuit doesn't seem to get as much commercial events, but they do have track days and racing education courses.

And of course the Macau street circuit sees some events each year.

Not exactly the racing culture that is in the US or Europe, but it's something I guess.
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WEC used to do a 6hr race there back when Chip Ganassi was running the Ford/Multimatic GT teams.
Link Posted: 4/10/2024 3:42:53 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Cypher214:

Fair enough.  He and Mick are interchangeable in that case.
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Originally Posted By DCV_117:
Originally Posted By Cypher214:
Here's what I'd like to see happen with drivers/teams:

VCARB: I hate to say it but RIC out and Lawson takes his seat.  RIC becomes an F1 commentator/personality because he's obviously a fan favorite.  Unfortunately, he's a better TV personality than a driver at this point.  Yuki stays.

HAAS:  Bearman gets a seat, replacing Hulkenberg.  KMag gets a 1-year extension.

Williams:  Gets their shit together somehow.  Sargeant gone, Schumacher takes his place.  Albon is there through '25.

SauberStakeKick:  Zhou gone, Gasly gets his seat.  Bottas stays another year.  Their pit crew gets their shit together.  This would break up the fight between Gasly and Ocon that often ends in a crash.

Alpine:  Stops sucking ass.  Ocon gets a 1-year extension and Gasly is replaced by Doohan.   I can't imagine another driver wants to go to that team with the current shit show.

Mercedes:  Sainz to Mercedes and he's quicker than Hamilton in the Ferrari because it would be glorious.

Aston Martin:  Lance fucks off to give handjobs to his tennis coach and Drugovich takes his place.  Alonso gets an extension.

McLaren:  No change.

RBR:  Perez remains consistent this season and keeps his seat.  When he's performing well, I can't imagine a better #2 driver.




Kimi Antonelli will at a minimum be at Williams next year, some even think Toto will put him in the Mercedes as a rookie.

Fair enough.  He and Mick are interchangeable in that case.



The question is if Antonelli goes to Mercedes, who fills the second seat at Williams?

Logan could stay in the seat next year if he gets his shit together because of his commercial viability as an American but I wont hold my breath. It's the whole reason he's there in the first place.
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The question is if Antonelli goes to Mercedes, who fills the second seat at Williams?

Logan could stay in the seat next year if he gets his shit together because of his commercial viability as an American but I wont hold my breath. It's the whole reason he's there in the first place.
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Originally Posted By DCV_117:
Originally Posted By Cypher214:
Here's what I'd like to see happen with drivers/teams:

VCARB: I hate to say it but RIC out and Lawson takes his seat.  RIC becomes an F1 commentator/personality because he's obviously a fan favorite.  Unfortunately, he's a better TV personality than a driver at this point.  Yuki stays.

HAAS:  Bearman gets a seat, replacing Hulkenberg.  KMag gets a 1-year extension.

Williams:  Gets their shit together somehow.  Sargeant gone, Schumacher takes his place.  Albon is there through '25.

SauberStakeKick:  Zhou gone, Gasly gets his seat.  Bottas stays another year.  Their pit crew gets their shit together.  This would break up the fight between Gasly and Ocon that often ends in a crash.

Alpine:  Stops sucking ass.  Ocon gets a 1-year extension and Gasly is replaced by Doohan.   I can't imagine another driver wants to go to that team with the current shit show.

Mercedes:  Sainz to Mercedes and he's quicker than Hamilton in the Ferrari because it would be glorious.

Aston Martin:  Lance fucks off to give handjobs to his tennis coach and Drugovich takes his place.  Alonso gets an extension.

McLaren:  No change.

RBR:  Perez remains consistent this season and keeps his seat.  When he's performing well, I can't imagine a better #2 driver.




Kimi Antonelli will at a minimum be at Williams next year, some even think Toto will put him in the Mercedes as a rookie.

Fair enough.  He and Mick are interchangeable in that case.



The question is if Antonelli goes to Mercedes, who fills the second seat at Williams?

Logan could stay in the seat next year if he gets his shit together because of his commercial viability as an American but I wont hold my breath. It's the whole reason he's there in the first place.

I doubt there are many sponsors who would withhold money from Williams because they don't keep a shitty American driver.  There's clearly a large audience in the U.S. now with or without Sargeant.
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The question is if Antonelli goes to Mercedes, who fills the second seat at Williams?

Logan could stay in the seat next year if he gets his shit together because of his commercial viability as an American but I wont hold my breath. It's the whole reason he's there in the first place.
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Here's what I'd like to see happen with drivers/teams:

VCARB: I hate to say it but RIC out and Lawson takes his seat.  RIC becomes an F1 commentator/personality because he's obviously a fan favorite.  Unfortunately, he's a better TV personality than a driver at this point.  Yuki stays.

HAAS:  Bearman gets a seat, replacing Hulkenberg.  KMag gets a 1-year extension.

Williams:  Gets their shit together somehow.  Sargeant gone, Schumacher takes his place.  Albon is there through '25.

SauberStakeKick:  Zhou gone, Gasly gets his seat.  Bottas stays another year.  Their pit crew gets their shit together.  This would break up the fight between Gasly and Ocon that often ends in a crash.

Alpine:  Stops sucking ass.  Ocon gets a 1-year extension and Gasly is replaced by Doohan.   I can't imagine another driver wants to go to that team with the current shit show.

Mercedes:  Sainz to Mercedes and he's quicker than Hamilton in the Ferrari because it would be glorious.

Aston Martin:  Lance fucks off to give handjobs to his tennis coach and Drugovich takes his place.  Alonso gets an extension.

McLaren:  No change.

RBR:  Perez remains consistent this season and keeps his seat.  When he's performing well, I can't imagine a better #2 driver.




Kimi Antonelli will at a minimum be at Williams next year, some even think Toto will put him in the Mercedes as a rookie.

Fair enough.  He and Mick are interchangeable in that case.



The question is if Antonelli goes to Mercedes, who fills the second seat at Williams?

Logan could stay in the seat next year if he gets his shit together because of his commercial viability as an American but I wont hold my breath. It's the whole reason he's there in the first place.

With all the experienced drivers available after this season, I can't imagine Merc putting a total rookie in the seat behind Russell.

Yes, I quoted the same post twice.
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Apparently the same publication that leaked HAM signing with Ferrari says Sainz is going to sign with Mercedes unless it's just click-bait. Perhaps this is why Toto was actually at Suzuka this past weekend when he was originally not going to be in attendance.

Now, if that happens, it's gonna be lit if Sainz beats Hamilton in a Merc next year.

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Unless Ferrari can challenge for the constructors title. That's where the money is.



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I don't think RBR are the least bit interested in a #2 that would challenge Max. They want someone happy finishing 2nd to Max. Right now, that's Checo.


Unless Ferrari can challenge for the constructors title. That's where the money is.





Yep. We should be pulling for some solid Ferrari upgrades to pressure for the WCC. I want Alonso to go out with a bang at Red Bull.
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Antonelli needs more time in F2, imho. Even Bearman does. Let them mature.  Super subs in F1 are hard to judge; look at DeVries. Steps in at Monza, gets points, and everyone thinks he's the 2nd coming, but he wasn't, he was shite.
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Apparently the same publication that leaked HAM signing with Ferrari says Sainz is going to sign with Mercedes unless it's just click-bait. Perhaps this is why Toto was actually at Suzuka this past weekend when he was originally not going to be in attendance.

Now, if that happens, it's gonna be lit if Sainz beats Hamilton in a Merc next year.

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I really hope not, I don't want to root for Mercedes.
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I really hope not, I don't want to root for Mercedes.
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Originally Posted By LoBrau:

I really hope not, I don't want to root for Mercedes.


https://pouch.jumpshare.com/preview/j8e1zyXWitzxVCJDRt0Mbenmzqv0GLcfykViQxxpAFFeTs6PSr1C2uKaJzwuqqbShkutod7iP70FFbj9Vv0VEZLm_yDIR8nRvLTeE5Vr0tU

You were holding onto that for the right time, weren't you?
**I know I would have.
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You were holding onto that for the right time, weren't you?
**I know I would have.
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Lol, indeed, that’s a bingo!
Link Posted: 4/10/2024 8:26:03 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By LoBrau:

I really hope not, I don't want to root for Mercedes.
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Originally Posted By Roland-G23:
Apparently the same publication that leaked HAM signing with Ferrari says Sainz is going to sign with Mercedes unless it's just click-bait. Perhaps this is why Toto was actually at Suzuka this past weekend when he was originally not going to be in attendance.

Now, if that happens, it's gonna be lit if Sainz beats Hamilton in a Merc next year.


I really hope not, I don't want to root for Mercedes.


If it makes you feel any better, I haven’t seen anyone reporting/talking about it.

Alonso makes more sense on a yearly contract if they are hot on Antonelli.


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Apparently the same publication that leaked HAM signing with Ferrari says Sainz is going to sign with Mercedes unless it's just click-bait. Perhaps this is why Toto was actually at Suzuka this past weekend when he was originally not going to be in attendance.

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Inigo Montoya: “humiliation galore!”
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Alonso extends contract with AM.

Sainz to RB looking very possible especially if Ferrari keeps catching up to them. At the moment Sergio is a perfect #2 driver but if Ferrari gets close, Sainz will be the better driver to have.
Link Posted: 4/11/2024 12:31:10 PM EDT
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Outside of the second seat at RBR, staying at Aston was probably his best option.

Was hoping for some excitement though.
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Outside of the second seat at RBR, staying at Aston was probably his best option.

Was hoping for some excitement though.
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Agreed.

One of the greatest and one of my favorite drivers of all time.
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