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Posted: 3/7/2024 9:37:43 PM EDT
[#1]
So far so good.
Ancient Japan has already been interesting to me. |
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Posted: 3/7/2024 10:21:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Naffenea: You must have forgotten the book then. Marino was always a badass. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Naffenea: Originally Posted By curiomatic: I read the book a long time ago, but I can tell just by watching the trailer that this version has a lot more girl power in it. You must have forgotten the book then. Marino was always a badass. I read it as soon as it came out in paperback, maybe '78 or '79. I may have forgotten a few details. |
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Posted: 3/7/2024 10:30:04 PM EDT
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I started another thread tonight on this. I didn’t realize this thread was out there. Here is my post.
——- vaguely remember the original one when it came out. We were fairly young so we missed the depth of the show but we all wanted to be Samurai. This one has some magnificent cinematography. The color grading and visuals are stunning. I also didn’t realize it was “based” on historical events and historic people. The dialogue between John Blackthorn and Rodriguez is pretty awesome and funny. In general, Blackthorn has a some funny dialogue especially considering it is a period piece. “Sorry about your sack of shit lord” When it looks like Lord Yabushige died after falling on the rocks. |
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Posted: 3/7/2024 10:34:33 PM EDT
[#4]
Its not as good as the original!
And there have been a few B Kung Fu movie moments. But it is watchable! |
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Posted: 3/7/2024 10:36:02 PM EDT
[#5]
She totally rated -san, that was an honorific for all Samurai.
For a woman to demand -sama? Fucking laughable. -chan would only be used for an intimate or very dear friend of the opposite sex. Though judging by what was almost offered to Anjin-san, I suppose duck-chan could have been appropriate… |
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Posted: 3/7/2024 10:38:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bulldog1967: The wife of a samurai was NOT second class to a common man. The wife of a samurai was almost 100% likely to be a samurai. Both men and women were born into that class and carried equal protection. |
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Posted: 3/7/2024 10:42:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kill-9:  In the book, part of the magic of Mariko was how powerful she was while maintaining the image of a perfectly subservient Japanese woman. I guess that is WAY too subtle for today's Hollywood. Pretty much nailed it. The book was as much about Anjin-San as it was about Mariko-san. She was extremely powerful, using her cunning and guile to get what she wanted and what was best for Anjin and Toronaga. Modern feminists can’t grasp the kind of power a woman like Mariko had, so they had to make her some kind of sword master killing machine. |
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Posted: 3/7/2024 11:45:03 PM EDT
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Wife and I are watching it and enjoy it so far. NGL though, homeboy getting boiled alive almost got me. That was brutal.
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Posted: 3/8/2024 12:48:04 AM EDT
[#9]
Tag. I'll watch it all in one shot when I get my TV set up.
Is my favorite novel, and i loved the original series |
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Posted: 3/10/2024 7:29:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Clarinath: The wife of a samurai was almost 100% likely to be a samurai. Both men and women were born into that class and carried equal protection. Women and children were considered property of their husbands. |
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Posted: 3/10/2024 7:39:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By buckshot_jim: Hulu is $16.00 a month. Hulu is also DISNEY, Fuck Disney |
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Posted: 3/13/2024 1:59:12 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ZF-1]
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AK, USA
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Posted: 3/13/2024 6:19:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ZF-1: Yoshii Nagakado: I'll handle it... Everybody else: /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/913B9170-EFFD-47D1-8C81-F2799586E46C-479.gif GOTDAMN! For real. I'm thinking bro bought to do something. Cannon in the distance BOOM.  Click To View Spoiler |
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Posted: 3/13/2024 6:42:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Clarinath: She totally rated -san, that was an honorific for all Samurai. For a woman to demand -sama? Fucking laughable. -chan would only be used for an intimate or very dear friend of the opposite sex. Though judging by what was almost offered to Anjin-san, I suppose duck-chan could have been appropriate wouldnt using "san" during that timeframe be anachronistic? |
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Posted: 3/13/2024 6:45:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bacon_Grease: For real. I'm thinking bro bought to do something. Cannon in the distance BOOM. Click To View Spoiler Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bacon_Grease: Originally Posted By ZF-1: Yoshii Nagakado: I'll handle it... Everybody else: /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/913B9170-EFFD-47D1-8C81-F2799586E46C-479.gif GOTDAMN! For real. I'm thinking bro bought to do something. Cannon in the distance BOOM. Click To View Spoiler Click To View Spoiler |
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Posted: 3/14/2024 1:44:03 PM EDT
[#16]
That cannon effect was...wow!
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Posted: 3/14/2024 1:51:24 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jambalaya: Oh, nice. I just started watching Justified. Will watch this next. How and the hell have you just started Justified?? Anyway I think I'll check this one out, will it entertain a lady as well? |
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Posted: 3/14/2024 1:57:23 PM EDT
[#18]
Getting sick of subtitles, speak English.
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Posted: 3/14/2024 4:44:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dirtyboy: Getting sick of subtitles, speak English. Many of the actors don’t speak English. |
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Posted: 3/14/2024 8:14:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ZF-1]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Miles_Urbanus: Many of the actors don’t speak English. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Miles_Urbanus: Originally Posted By dirtyboy: Getting sick of subtitles, speak English. Many of the actors don’t speak English. I think Hulu has English dubs. ETA. SUBS OVER DUBS! |
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Posted: 3/15/2024 7:37:20 PM EDT
[#21]
This thing rocks. So much better than the first. Two in.
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Posted: 3/15/2024 7:44:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Kihn]
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DKUltra: Its not as good as the original! And there have been a few B Kung Fu movie moments. But it is watchable! The in-family shit-talking is great. You never saw that in the original. And all the CGI is so fucking outstanding with the palaces/ castles, mixed in along with real nature camera stuff. Lopping off heads with minimal effort or thought. Zero exaggerated fight drama. Stabby/ slicey purposeful death. Super clean, smooth effortless technique- efficient. Get 'er done. |
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Posted: 3/15/2024 7:59:00 PM EDT
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I've caught the last two episodes on FX. Can I watch from the beginning if I subscribe to Hulu?
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Posted: 3/15/2024 8:02:40 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 549: I've caught the last two episodes on FX. Can I watch from the beginning if I subscribe to Hulu? Yes |
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Posted: 3/15/2024 8:42:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GTwannabe: Privateer. "Legal" pirate during war. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GTwannabe: Originally Posted By Infantry600: I went in blind. I’m still confused about Blackthorne and friends. Are they pirates or merchants? Is he lying to save his own ass, or telling the truth? I should just re watch it. Sorry for any spoilers. Privateer. "Legal" pirate during war. Letters of Marque |
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Posted: 3/15/2024 9:28:26 PM EDT
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It's been thirty+ years since I read the book/saw the movie.
Did it end with the same cligghanger? |
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UT, USA
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Posted: 3/15/2024 9:31:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pokey074: You can get the original on Blu-Ray off Amazon, which I did before I even knew they were doing a remake. I wanted to watch the original first but the missus insisted on the remake first. Should have just read the book. |
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Posted: 3/15/2024 9:55:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chris_in_TX: Should have just read the book. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chris_in_TX: Originally Posted By pokey074: You can get the original on Blu-Ray off Amazon, which I did before I even knew they were doing a remake. I wanted to watch the original first but the missus insisted on the remake first. Should have just read the book. |
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LA, USA
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Posted: 3/15/2024 10:08:52 PM EDT
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That depends. iF you LIke to do eXacTy what yOuR gov .Tells yOu you won’t be able to.
It’s there. Right there hidden beneath the waves. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DamascusKnifemaker: Since Direct TV is AFU I'm sure that the DVR won't function and I will miss out since I don't have HULU. |
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Posted: 3/17/2024 10:00:21 PM EDT
[#30]
The end of the last installment. Wow.
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Posted: 3/19/2024 9:50:56 PM EDT
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Should I watch season 1 episode 5 free or watch from the start ? Serious question .
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Posted: 3/19/2024 9:54:12 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4q2: Should I watch season 1 episode 5 free or watch from the start ? Serious question . From the start. |
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Posted: 3/20/2024 11:37:51 AM EDT
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Let’s talk about the pheasant, not what it lead to but, Was he really eating it as it was rotting?
Is that really a thing or did he plan to eat it and just got distracted? |
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Posted: 3/20/2024 1:15:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GutWrench: Let’s talk about the pheasant, not what it lead to but, Was he really eating it as it was rotting? Is that really a thing or did he plan to eat it and just got distracted? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GutWrench: Let’s talk about the pheasant, not what it lead to but, Was he really eating it as it was rotting? Is that really a thing or did he plan to eat it and just got distracted? In the 17th century, and even to this day in some cases, game such as pheasants and other birds were often hung after being obtained. The reason for this stemmed from personal taste, with the process of hanging creatures like pheasants making the meat more ripe, thus tasting better upon being cooked. Some even preferred to allow pheasants to rot. |
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Posted: 3/20/2024 1:16:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fike: Oh wow. That’s just freaking nasty. |
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Posted: 3/20/2024 1:18:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Kihn]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GutWrench: Let’s talk about the pheasant, not what it lead to but, Was he really eating it as it was rotting? Is that really a thing or did he plan to eat it and just got distracted? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GutWrench: Let’s talk about the pheasant, not what it lead to but, Was he really eating it as it was rotting? Is that really a thing or did he plan to eat it and just got distracted? Aging the meat. He just forgot about it. Talked shit in the wrong context. Shit happens. According to Field & Stream, it’s normal to let pheasants mature, untouched, for a couple days in conditions of 40 to 50 degrees Fahrenheit. The decaying process not only makes it easier to skin and feather the bird, but it also tenderizes the meat. Animals experience rigor mortis in the twenty-four hours after they die, which causes a tightening of the muscles that can lead to tougher meat |
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Posted: 3/20/2024 1:29:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By USCG_CPO: I wanted to watch the original again before starting this new one but I cant fond the original version anywhere. @USCG_CPO https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0000A2ZNX?tag=arfcom00-20 |
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Posted: 3/20/2024 1:32:01 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote History@Jack19 Thanks! |
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Posted: 3/20/2024 1:34:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kihn: Aging the meat. He just forgot about it. Talked shit in the wrong context. Shit happens. Interesting. I have never “aged” a bird. |
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Posted: 3/20/2024 5:36:52 PM EDT
[#40]
I'm going to forge ahead, but so far it's not grabbing me after one episode.
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Posted: 3/22/2024 4:49:19 PM EDT
[#41]
The release really messed with me, showed only four episodes, then "war!" and that was it. Now I see a drop list of another four episodes.
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Posted: 3/22/2024 6:59:23 PM EDT
[#42]
The Drinker Recommends...
 The Drinker Recommends... Shogun |
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Posted: 3/22/2024 7:03:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TxRabbitBane]
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By EzGoingKev: I am a huge fan of both the book and the 80's TV miniseries. I watched the first two episodes. I noticed Lady Moriko has a more forceful role in this version. She ordered Blackthorn to refer to her as Mariko-sama. IIRC in the book and miniseries she is Mariko-chan. She would not rate sama and I am not sure about san. I hope this is not a sign this is going to be another girl power remake of something. She tells him that she doesn’t warrant the -sama honorific. I’ve watched a few episodes. I like it. |
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Posted: 3/22/2024 7:07:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Clarinath: She totally rated -san, that was an honorific for all Samurai. For a woman to demand -sama? Fucking laughable. -chan would only be used for an intimate or very dear friend of the opposite sex. Though judging by what was almost offered to Anjin-san, I suppose duck-chan could have been appropriate… He calls her Mariko-sama, and she tells him that’s inappropriate, iirc. I think she says “-san” is correct. |
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Posted: 3/22/2024 9:15:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kihn: Aging the meat. He just forgot about it. Talked shit in the wrong context. Shit happens. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kihn: Originally Posted By GutWrench: Let’s talk about the pheasant, not what it lead to but, Was he really eating it as it was rotting? Is that really a thing or did he plan to eat it and just got distracted? Aging the meat. He just forgot about it. Talked shit in the wrong context. Shit happens. According to Field & Stream, it’s normal to let pheasants mature, untouched, for a couple days in conditions of 40 to 50 degrees Fahrenheit. The decaying process not only makes it easier to skin and feather the bird, but it also tenderizes the meat. Animals experience rigor mortis in the twenty-four hours after they die, which causes a tightening of the muscles that can lead to tougher meat Yeah, looked like the temperature was a little higher than 40-50. |
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Posted: 3/22/2024 10:05:16 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/22/2024 10:26:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By USCG_CPO: @Jack19 Thanks! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By USCG_CPO: @Jack19 Thanks! @USCG_CPO @Jack19 you can watch it here for free. https://archive.org/details/Shogun_Miniseries |
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Posted: 3/23/2024 3:29:54 PM EDT
[#48]
The earthquake scene landscape shots were amazing.
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Posted: 3/23/2024 3:36:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ZF-1: The earthquake scene landscape shots were amazing. This is where today's tech really blows away the original series. |
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Posted: 3/23/2024 5:22:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Birddog1911: @USCG_CPO @Jack19 you can watch it here for free. https://archive.org/details/Shogun_Miniseries Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Birddog1911: Originally Posted By USCG_CPO: @Jack19 Thanks! @USCG_CPO @Jack19 you can watch it here for free. https://archive.org/details/Shogun_Miniseries @Birddog1911 Thank you Sir!!!  |
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