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TN, USA
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Posted: 2/29/2024 1:34:39 PM EDT
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Bitch please
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TN, USA
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Posted: 2/29/2024 1:34:43 PM EDT
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pre-covid, i was probably averaging 30% tips. now, it's 15%. it's ridiculous
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Posted: 2/29/2024 1:35:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FistPeso: I would purposely not tip if I seen that board. Saw. If you saw that board. |
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Posted: 2/29/2024 1:36:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mudholestomper: Saw. If you saw that board. I am not a carpenter, I don’t saw boards. 
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Posted: 2/29/2024 1:36:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By taliv: pre-covid, i was probably averaging 30% tips. now, it's 15%. it's ridiculous Poor dude the other day was struggling, and pretty obviously new to the job. He still got a bit more than 20% because the effort was there. |
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Posted: 2/29/2024 1:36:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By packinheavy: But they aren't the ones putting up shitty tipper signs. I bet the ones who put up this sign aren't doing that well. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By packinheavy: Originally Posted By djkest: Originally Posted By packinheavy: And I would go home to my own home, with good healthcare, a job wih a good pension and other investments, and not give two shits about people who are failing at life. Both of the people at my business who bartend have six-figure salaries, 6+ figures in the bank, and health insurance. I bet the ones who put up this sign aren't doing that well. |
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Posted: 2/29/2024 1:36:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SuperHeavy: That board would be an invitation to my friends to be the top shittiest tipper  Ah, good ole Texas values. Even the assholes are bigger in Texas.  |
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Posted: 2/29/2024 1:37:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mudholestomper: Saw. If you saw that board. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mudholestomper: Originally Posted By FistPeso: I would purposely not tip if I seen that board. Saw. If you saw that board. Tomato, potato |
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Posted: 2/29/2024 1:37:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: wayfaerer320]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheBeaverRetriever: I've said this previously but the entitlement surrounding tips is getting egregiously out of control. Considering half the servers you're tipping provide shitty service to begin with - 100%. I always tip 20% (even for sub-par service) because I know if I don't, some asshole server (that sucks at their job and didn't deserve a decent tip) will tell their co-workers (not telling them the part where they provided shitty service) and they'll think I'm some cheap bastard shithead who never tips people. Tipping has really gotten out of control in this country too - I walk up to the counter at a Starbucks to pay for a coffee that was handed to me and I'm prompted for a tip? What the actual fuck am I tipping for? I order Panera (through the app) for pickup (that I myself drive and walk into the store to get) - again, why is there a tip prompt for something like that? Do restaurant workers get pissed when people don't tip to pick up their food themselves at the restaurant? And to be clear, I always tip when I pick orders up - I just think it's ridiculous. |
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Posted: 2/29/2024 1:39:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thawntex: Perhaps they're not doing so hot financially, but the ability to publicly ridicule bad customers has to have some value. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thawntex: Originally Posted By packinheavy: Originally Posted By djkest: Originally Posted By packinheavy: And I would go home to my own home, with good healthcare, a job wih a good pension and other investments, and not give two shits about people who are failing at life. Both of the people at my business who bartend have six-figure salaries, 6+ figures in the bank, and health insurance. I bet the ones who put up this sign aren't doing that well. Maybe they are shitty servers? Either is possible, with the likelihood of shitty customers being greater in my experience. But it's still a bad look. |
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Posted: 2/29/2024 1:39:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Admiral_Crunch: I am not a shitty tipper, but I would immediately turn around and leave any place with that sign. And I would tell the manager why. it looks to be in a back room and those are pretty egregious shitty tips. |
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WI, USA
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Posted: 2/29/2024 1:40:09 PM EDT
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There is a near complete lack of understanding of tavern/dive bar culture on this site
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Posted: 2/29/2024 1:40:22 PM EDT
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They need a “shitty titties” board next to it.
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Posted: 2/29/2024 1:40:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kanati: I'm already paying you 1000% markup to pour cheap booze into a cup and hand it to me. "Don't take wooden nickles." go to a liquor store and buy a plastic handle instead of going to a bar then. |
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Posted: 2/29/2024 1:41:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pallas: 20% has pretty much been their basic expected tip for the last 12yrs. 12? it's been customary for more like 30+ |
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Posted: 2/29/2024 1:42:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ryandushku: There is a near complete lack of understanding of tavern/dive bar culture on this site |
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Posted: 2/29/2024 1:44:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By shack357: If the owner can't afford to pay the chick a decent wage, and relies on me to pick up the balance, he shouldn't be running a business. Most states, if not all, if the tips don't bring the server to minimum wage the owner is required to cover the difference. Don't listen to "I'm a poor waitress with a hungry kid at home and I only make $2 per hour". Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By shack357: Originally Posted By redfish86: Meh. If you can’t afford to throw the chick a buck when you order a beer, maybe you should stay at home. If the owner can't afford to pay the chick a decent wage, and relies on me to pick up the balance, he shouldn't be running a business. Most states, if not all, if the tips don't bring the server to minimum wage the owner is required to cover the difference. Don't listen to "I'm a poor waitress with a hungry kid at home and I only make $2 per hour". MN is different from many states and tips aren't a part of minimum wage. So of minimum wage is $15, then they are always making all their tips on TOP of that $15. |
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USA
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Posted: 2/29/2024 1:46:24 PM EDT
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I am surprised by the large number of bartender simps in this thread.
I tip according to service quality. Some people get no tips, some get 100% tips. And everything inbetween. Tips are like bonuses. No one is entitled to either, they must be earned. |
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Posted: 2/29/2024 1:47:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FistPeso: I am not a carpenter, I don’t saw boards. Thank the British for this bullshit. |
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Posted: 2/29/2024 1:49:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thawntex: Perhaps they're not doing so hot financially, but the ability to publicly ridicule bad customers has to have some value. There is a local market that posts pictures of shoplifters on the glass as you go in. It hasn't changed much since they started doing it. Being on the shoplifting wall of shame seems to work. 
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Posted: 2/29/2024 1:51:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Admiral_Crunch: I am not a shitty tipper, but I would immediately turn around and leave any place with that sign. And I would tell the manager why. My fucking local pool supply place decided after the water test they would put your sheet up on the wall of shame (literally labelled 'wall of shame') if it wasnt perfect. Turned around and left havent been back. Now i buy all my own shit online and have my own chemistry set. Cant believe the owner would allow that. |
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Posted: 2/29/2024 1:51:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dieselman: I am surprised by the large number of bartender simps in this thread. I tip according to service quality. Some people get no tips, some get 100% tips. And everything inbetween. Tips are like bonuses. No one is entitled to either, they must be earned. That's how it's supposed to be, but the culture has shifted to "20% no matter what, or else get labeled a shitbag - oh and also, put their name on social media" It's ridiculous. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 2/29/2024 1:53:37 PM EDT
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I will take the opposite side. Either tip well or say home. Are you really using your last dollar to buy alcohol in the bar? You should just tip well in general because it is good for your soul. Man, cheap people suck.
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Posted: 2/29/2024 1:53:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mudholestomper: Saw. If you saw that board. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mudholestomper: Originally Posted By FistPeso: I would purposely not tip if I seen that board. Saw. If you saw that board. |
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Posted: 2/29/2024 1:54:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ryandushku: There is a near complete lack of understanding of tavern/dive bar culture on this site Just like every other public establishment, there are good ones and shitty ones. Most times someone bitching about tips are the ones who do little to deserve them in the first place. |
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Posted: 2/29/2024 1:57:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: wayfaerer320]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AZLaw: I will take the opposite side. Either tip well or say home. Are you really using your last dollar to buy alcohol in the bar? You should just tip well in general because it is good for your soul. Man, cheap people suck. I always tip 20% no matter what - even for shitty service, but it shouldn't be that way. That's not how tips are supposed to work. That's the problem with tipping - it went from "tipping somebody for doing a great job as your server" to "you're an asshole if you tipped 10% for a server who didn't do a good job at being a server" You're just expected to tip regardless of your experience. |
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WI, USA
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Posted: 2/29/2024 1:58:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ryandushku]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wayfaerer320: That's how it's supposed to be, but the culture has shifted to "20% no matter what, or else get labeled a shitbag - oh and also, put their name on social media" It's ridiculous. |
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WI, USA
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Posted: 2/29/2024 2:01:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lorazepam: Just like every other public establishment, there are good ones and shitty ones. Most times someone bitching about tips are the ones who do little to deserve them in the first place. |
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Posted: 2/29/2024 2:01:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lorazepam: They can be replaced by a vending machine. Actually, they can't. It wouldn't meet the legal requirements for serving alcohol. |
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Posted: 2/29/2024 2:02:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By djkest: Actually, they can't. It wouldn't meet the legal requirements for serving alcohol. |
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Posted: 2/29/2024 2:02:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: thawntex]
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dieselman: I am surprised by the large number of bartender simps in this thread. I tip according to service quality. Some people get no tips, some get 100% tips. And everything inbetween. Tips are like bonuses. No one is entitled to either, they must be earned. |
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Posted: 2/29/2024 2:03:49 PM EDT
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as someone contemptuous over modern tip expectations, I will be the fist to say, those are some shitty tippers. None of those are what I'd call just a bit below 20%. They are effectively zero tips, or insult level tips. $2 on a $220 tab, is not exactly a 15% tip. I'll also say that's one place I would not patron. The staff is focusing on being vindictive and has expectations and demands, or they will Get Even. Fuck that, I'll go to a place where the staff attitude is: The tips are great. Some people don't tip, and I don't even worry about it, on to the next one, it works out good by the end of the night. THAT's the venue to go to, andn teh one where they are actually focusing on their job. Whatever establishment that is, fuck them - that whole place is blacklisted as far as I'm concerned. Not to Get Even, just it's a place I don't expect to get good service or a pleasant night at. |
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NJ, USA
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Posted: 2/29/2024 2:04:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Admiral_Crunch: I am not a shitty tipper, but I would immediately turn around and leave any place with that sign. And I would tell the manager why. Absolutely this! Maybe the tip was never earned. Tips should not be guaranteed. |
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Posted: 2/29/2024 2:05:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ryandushku: There is a near complete lack of understanding of tavern/dive bar culture on this site  |
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Posted: 2/29/2024 2:06:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By atavistic: How would they know your name? My first thought also. |
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Posted: 2/29/2024 2:06:28 PM EDT
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Where is the shitty service list?
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Posted: 2/29/2024 2:06:49 PM EDT
[#37]
Better pour them strong.
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WI, USA
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Posted: 2/29/2024 2:08:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kanati: That is arguably a good thing to be ignorant of once you reach a certain age. https://y.yarn.co/b008a4ac-5600-4696-b09a-c2c38c4bc819_text.gif |
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NJ, USA
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Posted: 2/29/2024 2:08:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By redfish86: Meh. If you can’t afford to throw the chick a buck when you order a beer, maybe you should stay at home. They don't want a buck. They want at least 20% of the cost of that beer just to pour it in a glass and hand it to you. |
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Posted: 2/29/2024 2:08:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: packinheavy]
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Is it really a dive bar if it's not cash only?
There are a ton of places trying to pose as dive bars to attract the hipster crowd. ETA: Although I guess this isn't true anymore as I think about the places I'm in and out of. Evolve or die I guess. |
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USA
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Posted: 2/29/2024 2:09:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AZLaw: I will take the opposite side. Either tip well or say home. Are you really using your last dollar to buy alcohol in the bar? You should just tip well in general because it is good for your soul. Man, cheap people suck. Why would you continue to enable entitlism? Society will never improve if all incentives are removed. Are you also in favor of universal basic income? |
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Posted: 2/29/2024 2:11:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bullseye100: Absolutely this! Maybe the tip was never earned. Tips should not be guaranteed. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bullseye100: Originally Posted By Admiral_Crunch: I am not a shitty tipper, but I would immediately turn around and leave any place with that sign. And I would tell the manager why. Absolutely this! Maybe the tip was never earned. Tips should not be guaranteed. Gimme a break. |
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Posted: 2/29/2024 2:12:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ryandushku: Lol, you just further proved my point There are taverns with a 50 person customer base that might put up a sign like that for a while, but the attitude behind it is what I am addressing. |
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IA, USA
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Posted: 2/29/2024 2:12:21 PM EDT
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I’d be happy to not return to their establishment and not tipping at all.
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Posted: 2/29/2024 2:12:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By shack357: If the owner can't afford to pay the chick a decent wage, and relies on me to pick up the balance, he shouldn't be running a business. Most states, if not all, if the tips don't bring the server to minimum wage the owner is required to cover the difference. Don't listen to "I'm a poor waitress with a hungry kid at home and I only make $2 per hour". Please define “decent wage”. |
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Posted: 2/29/2024 2:13:25 PM EDT
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There was a bartender that would yell out "on the bar goes in the jar" and grab money from the bar where people paying cash left their change front their last drink. Most of those people did this because this same bartender would pad their tabs if they ran a tab. He got fired after nearly getting his ass stomped after a cash grab. It took several people to get an irate patron off of him.
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MO, USA
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Posted: 2/29/2024 2:13:40 PM EDT
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Bay Street bar has shitty servers. Got it, I'll go elsewhere.
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Posted: 2/29/2024 2:14:24 PM EDT
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I'm tipping way too high. New goal (Gray Man) just stay off the list.
It's not going to work out how they think it should.
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Posted: 2/29/2024 2:14:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cavedog: Shitty Tippers is a great name for a garage band. |
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Posted: 2/29/2024 2:14:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bullseye100: They don't want a buck. They want at least 20% of the cost of that beer just to pour it in a glass and hand it to you. Most places around here, a beer is $5, ergo $1 tip But if a beer is $4, are you really going to wait around for your two dimes? |
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