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Link Posted: 2/29/2024 7:10:49 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By FourLoko:


Yep, if you're a regular they know you and will hook you up.

Worth it.
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Originally Posted By FourLoko:
Originally Posted By pocketpkn:


Another plus for consistently tipping well is usually a discounted bill/tab.


Yep, if you're a regular they know you and will hook you up.

Worth it.

Yeah. We stopped going to bars about 10 years ago. These days it sounds like things have changed. Thank god everybody didn't have streaming video capable cameras in their pockets in the 90s.
Link Posted: 2/29/2024 7:11:02 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By zach_:

Yeah, come out, have a beer, be somebody.
Have a few more beers, be somebody else.
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Originally Posted By cthulhu:
Originally Posted By fargo007:
The remarks of some of the cheap pieces of shit here who refuse to tip are beyond embarrassing.



I used to regularly get customers who complained about having to pay 2.50 or 3 bucks for a beer, when they could buy a 12 pack for 10 bucks.  I would let them know they could do that, drink them at home, jack off into a dirty sock and cry themselves to sleep due to loneliness.  Or, they could pay the 3 bucks a beer and have a good time with us.  C'mon.  Sue is getting tired of Catfish's shit, you probably got a shot with her.



Yeah, come out, have a beer, be somebody.
Have a few more beers, be somebody else.


Have a few more and wake up in a D cell waiting for a judge who does know your name to sentence you for DUI.
Link Posted: 2/29/2024 7:14:36 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By midcap:
it takes zero skill to be a bartender or a server at some shit hole

learn a trade if you want to get paid
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Oh come on, you've run hotels I thought.

A good bartender has their eyes on everyone in the place, knows the town vibe and how to converse with anyone from bus station skanks to billionaires, keeps your drink full without you realizing it, and keeps the guy at the end of the bar from going upstairs and blowing his brains out all at the same time.

I've just not encountered many good ones at the skeezy local places like that.
Link Posted: 2/29/2024 7:17:01 PM EDT
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Just a FYI guys, I found the bars FB page. That pic of the "shitty tipper" was posted 2 yrs ago.

What I found interesting is they have a post about a viewing party for the episode of Bar Rescue they were on. Isnt that a show for shitty and poorly run bars owned by clueless people?
Link Posted: 2/29/2024 7:21:26 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Rob940:
Just a FYI guys, I found the bars FB page. That pic of the "shitty tipper" was posted 2 yrs ago.

What I found interesting is they have a post about a viewing party for the episode of Bar Rescue they were on. https://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/anim_lol.gifIsnt that a show for shitty and poorly run bars owned by clueless people?
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Yup.
Prolly 10 year old chicken wings being served, mold in the ice machine, fungus in the soda tap...
Link Posted: 2/29/2024 7:33:29 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/29/2024 7:37:41 PM EDT
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It’s so fucking ridiculous. For poor/medium/great service it used to be 10/12/15. Then it was 12/15/18. Then came 18/20/22. Not too long ago I saw suggested tip on the receipt 20/25/30. Who the fuck thought it was a good idea to print out suggested tip for 30 percent on their checks?
Link Posted: 2/29/2024 7:59:34 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By cavedog:
Shitty Tippers is a great name for a garage band.
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Titty Shippers would be a great name for a porn site.
Link Posted: 2/29/2024 8:13:57 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By treelow:


Those people are shitty tippers.

What are their screen names?
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Originally Posted By treelow:


Those people are shitty tippers.

What are their screen names?


Checking in!!!

I leave shit tips as most servers you see are incapable if taking an order correctly.

10% is the most you get
Link Posted: 2/29/2024 8:33:37 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By atavistic:
How would they know your name?
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Credit card of course
Link Posted: 2/29/2024 8:39:32 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By treelow:


lol…no
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Using a persons card to get their make to publicly shame them?  You can absolutely bet that’s a violation.

I’m sure the credit card companies are real cool about using their card to publicly humiliate their customers.
Link Posted: 2/29/2024 9:02:28 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Admiral_Crunch:
I am not a shitty tipper, but I would immediately turn around and leave any place with that sign.  And I would tell the manager why.
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Yep

Maybe the people were drunk and did not realize.
Link Posted: 2/29/2024 9:04:37 PM EDT
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Ok, Just to vent for a second.  Go out several times a week to the same several places.  I tip 20% because I can afford it and the math is easy to be very honest.  Generally that means a 50-60 dollar check with a 10-12 dollar tip added to that. No alcohol if that makes any difference.  Been going to these places for years before and after COVID.   What gets me is that at one place, I go in and am treated very nice, lots of chit chat, manager sees us in sitting at a table, he comes over, a try to upsell desert or wine or whatever.    The other place treats me and everyone else like a stranger with no special treatment for being a regular and a decent tipper.  I feel happy to tip at one place and obligated at the other.  This is why I feel the tipping is out of hand
Link Posted: 2/29/2024 9:24:46 PM EDT
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I never had a sign, but I remembered faces.

And you'd be thirsty all night, and if you had a date, you wouldn't have any fun at all.
Link Posted: 2/29/2024 9:32:31 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By wyomingnick:
I don't see them listing people for normal tips or even low tips that aren't 20%

That board mostly listed stiffs that didn't tip at all or a ridiculous low amount like rounding $2 up on $125+

Honestly its in poor taste but I couldn't care less. Those customers listed likely deserve it.
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Tips aren't even a thing in most countries. It's an American custom that creates a grossly inflated sense of entitlement, even superiority among some. I was over any sense of "guilt" many years ago. I'll give a tip with each drink to keep things moving as a practical matter, but not out of any sense of guilt or duty to them. If they want more, they should run for Congress like AOC.
Link Posted: 2/29/2024 9:34:06 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Kubota3430:



this here, i tip for good service, and quality made drinks that taste good.  Make me a drink that tastes shitty i will not be tipping and not coming back.
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Originally Posted By Kubota3430:
Originally Posted By Admiral_Crunch:
I am not a shitty tipper, but I would immediately turn around and leave any place with that sign.  And I would tell the manager why.



this here, i tip for good service, and quality made drinks that taste good.  Make me a drink that tastes shitty i will not be tipping and not coming back.


Why? You live in Washington, which already pays servers the state minimum wage (not the $2.13/hr like lots of states) PLUS tips.

When I lived in WA and discovered WA and OR pay the state minimum wage and not the $2.13/hr “tipped staff” minimum wage, I limited my tipping to around 5%.
Link Posted: 2/29/2024 9:35:47 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By fargo007:
The remarks of some of the cheap pieces of shit here who refuse to tip are beyond embarrassing.



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Oh no…
Link Posted: 2/29/2024 9:57:51 PM EDT
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If I walk up to the bar and the tender is playing candy crush on the phone or finishes a 5 minute conversation and pays no attention to paying customers waiting, you aint getting squat. This is usually my experience in bars.

If you move like you have a purpose and actually remember my drink and can get it to me, you get tipped well.
Link Posted: 2/29/2024 10:02:06 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Dieselman:
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Leave No Tip

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I’m adopting this approach now across the board.

Service is absolute shit, and so shall be the tip.
Link Posted: 2/29/2024 11:29:18 PM EDT
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I'm a good tipper because service industry types are my people.

That said, to lots of patrons, this sign is just an extension of the condescending "I'm doing you a favor" attitude more than a few bartenders have.
Link Posted: 3/1/2024 12:12:17 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Kanati:
Oh come on, you've run hotels I thought.

A good bartender has their eyes on everyone in the place, knows the town vibe and how to converse with anyone from bus station skanks to billionaires, keeps your drink full without you realizing it, and keeps the guy at the end of the bar from going upstairs and blowing his brains out all at the same time.

I've just not encountered many good ones at the skeezy local places like that.
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Add to you list that you can walk in once or twice a year and the bartender greats you by name and resumes the conversation with you from 4 months ago.  Oh, and they do that with the next ten people that come in.

Edit.   And they serve this:

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The green stuff that everyone always asks about:

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Link Posted: 3/1/2024 10:27:01 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By BoomFootShot:



Using a persons card to get their make to publicly shame them?  You can absolutely bet that’s a violation.

I’m sure the credit card companies are real cool about using their card to publicly humiliate their customers.
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Originally Posted By BoomFootShot:
Originally Posted By treelow:


lol…no



Using a persons card to get their make to publicly shame them?  You can absolutely bet that’s a violation.

I’m sure the credit card companies are real cool about using their card to publicly humiliate their customers.


LOL
Link Posted: 3/1/2024 10:44:29 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Kanati:
I'm already paying you 1000% markup to pour cheap booze into a cup and hand it to me.

"Don't take wooden nickles."
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lol then go to the store and buy your own and pour it yourself….youre in the bar for a reason, wouldn’t want them to make a profit would we comrade
Link Posted: 3/1/2024 10:52:20 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By cthulhu:
I used to regularly get customers who complained about having to pay 2.50 or 3 bucks for a beer, when they could buy a 12 pack for 10 bucks.  I would let them know they could do that, drink them at home, jack off into a dirty sock and cry themselves to sleep due to loneliness.  Or, they could pay the 3 bucks a beer and have a good time with us.  C'mon.  Sue is getting tired of Catfish's shit, you probably got a shot with her.


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Originally Posted By cthulhu:
Originally Posted By fargo007:
The remarks of some of the cheap pieces of shit here who refuse to tip are beyond embarrassing.



I used to regularly get customers who complained about having to pay 2.50 or 3 bucks for a beer, when they could buy a 12 pack for 10 bucks.  I would let them know they could do that, drink them at home, jack off into a dirty sock and cry themselves to sleep due to loneliness.  Or, they could pay the 3 bucks a beer and have a good time with us.  C'mon.  Sue is getting tired of Catfish's shit, you probably got a shot with her.




There's also a linear relationship between shitty tippers and people who refuse to wash their hands in the men's room.
Link Posted: 3/1/2024 10:52:22 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By HK-GUY45:
It’s so fucking ridiculous. For poor/medium/great service it used to be 10/12/15. Then it was 12/15/18. Then came 18/20/22. Not too long ago I saw suggested tip on the receipt 20/25/30. Who the fuck thought it was a good idea to print out suggested tip for 30 percent on their checks?
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No, the ridiculous thing is when automatically add 20 or 30% to the bill for tips. I've seen that happen.
Link Posted: 3/1/2024 10:53:33 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By BoomFootShot:



Using a persons card to get their make to publicly shame them?  You can absolutely bet that’s a violation.

I’m sure the credit card companies are real cool about using their card to publicly humiliate their customers.
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Using a credit card at a shady drinking hole... Yeah, what could go wrong with that.

there is a reason I pay with cash 87% of the time.

Link Posted: 3/1/2024 10:55:38 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Procyon:


Why? You live in Washington, which already pays servers the state minimum wage (not the $2.13/hr like lots of states) PLUS tips.

When I lived in WA and discovered WA and OR pay the state minimum wage and not the $2.13/hr “tipped staff” minimum wage, I limited my tipping to around 5%.
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actually it's kind of absurd some professions are excluded from min-wage.  Like this one. Not that I endorse the concept of min wage to begin with but if there is one, apply it uniformly.

Hence the tipping BS.

Pizza joints get away with paying under min-wage because of tips.
Link Posted: 3/1/2024 11:55:49 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By odiedodi:
Dude, my first wagie job didn't pay enough to cover current apartment rents even with a roommate, even adjusted for inflation. That's a problem, and it's not sustainable in the long term unless you want UBI or a permanent underclass of illegals. Our economy is broken, but bitching about fry cooks and waitresses isn't conducive to solving it. It's just impotent rage and scapegoating.
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Originally Posted By odiedodi:
Originally Posted By Torf:
What sorts of extraneous "nice to have" expenses are included in this bare minimum?

980 square feet of living space, with no roommates?  Labor saving devices and pre-packaged food in the kitchen?  Monthly cable/internet/phone/streaming bills topping only $200 a month?  Your own automatic washer and dryer?  Unlimited air conditioning?

Your post is meaningless, especially so since you state "pay the bills", which could be many thousands a month.
Dude, my first wagie job didn't pay enough to cover current apartment rents even with a roommate, even adjusted for inflation. That's a problem, and it's not sustainable in the long term unless you want UBI or a permanent underclass of illegals. Our economy is broken, but bitching about fry cooks and waitresses isn't conducive to solving it. It's just impotent rage and scapegoating.
My first "wagie" job paid $4.25/hr and I was doing well to get 30 hours a week.  Of course I was 16 at the time.  By the time I was 18, the pay was double and the hours were full time.  That was enough to afford an apartment with a roommate.

Was it enough to afford an apartment at current rates instead of rates 30 years ago?  Probably not, but employers are paying DOUBLE AGAIN as much money for unskilled labor these days.  One of my sons is working through this now.  With a roommate, he can make ends meet with 22% of his income going to rent.
Link Posted: 3/1/2024 12:31:53 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By pocketpkn:


Are you sure it's not customer appreciation?

When the owner gives me free shots, is he ripping himself off?
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Originally Posted By pocketpkn:
Originally Posted By LHA-2:
Originally Posted By pocketpkn:
Originally Posted By kmh:
I tip bartenders extremely well ($20 minimum), and always get great service


Another plus for consistently tipping well is usually a discounted bill/tab.

That's ripping off the owner.


Are you sure it's not customer appreciation?

When the owner gives me free shots, is he ripping himself off?


If the OWNER gives you free shots that's fine, he OWNS the booze he is giving you. Does the bartender?
Link Posted: 3/1/2024 12:35:24 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By tsg68:
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Shhhhhhhh.... you're not supposed to tell them that a brain dead bimbo with big tits and tight clothes can make BANK off drunk and lonely dudes simply by shaking her boobs and winking... and then they underreport their tips while hourly wage employees pay on every cent they earn... I'm not even mad about any of that, but don't play the fucking victim.
Link Posted: 3/1/2024 12:42:36 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By HiramRanger:


If the OWNER gives you free shots that's fine, he OWNS the booze he is giving you. Does the bartender?
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Accordi g to bar owners I know, there are 2 types of bartenders. Ones that steal a little, and ones that steal a lot.
Link Posted: 3/1/2024 12:44:14 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Dieselman:
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Leave No Tip

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Link Posted: 3/1/2024 12:45:07 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Admiral_Crunch:
I am not a shitty tipper, but I would immediately turn around and leave any place with that sign. And I would tell the manager why.
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This.
Link Posted: 3/1/2024 12:52:35 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By HiramRanger:


If the OWNER gives you free shots that's fine, he OWNS the booze he is giving you. Does the bartender?
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Originally Posted By HiramRanger:
Originally Posted By pocketpkn:
Originally Posted By LHA-2:
Originally Posted By pocketpkn:
Originally Posted By kmh:
I tip bartenders extremely well ($20 minimum), and always get great service


Another plus for consistently tipping well is usually a discounted bill/tab.

That's ripping off the owner.


Are you sure it's not customer appreciation?

When the owner gives me free shots, is he ripping himself off?


If the OWNER gives you free shots that's fine, he OWNS the booze he is giving you. Does the bartender?


The bartender has learned from the OWNER that offering free shots is the best way to retain well paying customers.
The profits that this establishment and it's bartenders have earned off of me, far exceeds a few free drinks.
Link Posted: 3/1/2024 1:19:14 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By pocketpkn:


The bartender has learned from the OWNER that offering free shots is the best way to retain well paying customers.
The profits that this establishment and its bartenders have earned off of me, far exceeds a few free drinks.
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Absolutely, it can be a gray area but a good bartender and owner knows where the line is. I recently watched a historic 100 plus year old establishment have to close because the owner decided his profit margin was too low. Stopped allowing any free drinks, stopped letting bartenders shake for shots (WI thing), went to metered pours for cocktails, etc. Took away a lot of the little things that made regulars feel at home. Well guess what everyone started going somewhere else. This is small city WI, people notice that shit.
Link Posted: 3/1/2024 1:22:59 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/1/2024 1:24:40 PM EDT
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Bartenders

One word

Link Posted: 3/1/2024 1:25:13 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By zach_:

Accordi g to bar owners I know, there are 2 types of bartenders. Ones that steal a little, and ones that steal a lot.
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Ha, my mom was just saying that reminiscing about her tending days a million years ago. She approximately said "that till is always going to be lighter than it should be at the end of the night, it's just a matter of how much lighter"
Link Posted: 3/1/2024 1:27:09 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/1/2024 1:41:33 PM EDT
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No, he’s correct. It’s the commie life losers , I want to shame people into giving them money because they made bad life choices, that are the scumbags.
Link Posted: 3/1/2024 1:43:23 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By djkest:


Both of the people at my business who bartend have six-figure salaries, 6+ figures in the bank, and health insurance.
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This definitely true……


And even if it is, which it isn’t, bartenders who fit this decision are .000000000000002% of the bartender population. So you proved nothing, unless you’re just releasing this information out there as a public announcement.
Link Posted: 3/1/2024 4:03:33 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Wsr4325:


lol then go to the store and buy your own and pour it yourself….youre in the bar for a reason, wouldn’t want them to make a profit would we comrade
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Originally Posted By Wsr4325:
Originally Posted By Kanati:
I'm already paying you 1000% markup to pour cheap booze into a cup and hand it to me.

"Don't take wooden nickles."


lol then go to the store and buy your own and pour it yourself….youre in the bar for a reason, wouldn’t want them to make a profit would we comrade


Are you paying the asking price for the product? Yes? Then why do you need to pay more? Does the asking price not cover operations? Then adjust prices accordingly and allow the consumer to decide if the total cost is worth it.

When I go into Peter Harris to buy a pair of pants and the sales clerk pulls my size and rings me up, I don't expect to tip her nor does she expect a tip. The company decides what they need to charge to keep the lights on and employees paid. There is transparency. If the price is too high in my estimation, or the service sucks, I shop elsewhere.
Link Posted: 3/1/2024 4:09:33 PM EDT
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American tipping culture is killing itself, and it can’t happen soon enough. I am not tipping anyone but waiters and waitresses at this point. I’m done. And 15% is the max. They are trying to make 20-25% happen now. No.
Link Posted: 3/1/2024 4:19:54 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By redfish86:
Meh.

If you can’t afford to throw the chick a buck when you order a beer, maybe you should stay at home.
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Yup. Although that trashy bar sign is tacky AF, seems like a lot of the people making comments here made that list.
Link Posted: 3/1/2024 4:49:28 PM EDT
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Entitled brats. Your tip depends on your service. Shit service equals shit tip if one at all
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@TylerPernal

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His name was Tyler Pernal.

His NAME WAS TYLER PERNAL.
Link Posted: 3/1/2024 7:36:11 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By atavistic:
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Maybe it's like Cheers?
Link Posted: 3/1/2024 7:40:25 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Rob940:
Just a FYI guys, I found the bars FB page. That pic of the "shitty tipper" was posted 2 yrs ago.

What I found interesting is they have a post about a viewing party for the episode of Bar Rescue they were on. https://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/anim_lol.gifIsnt that a show for shitty and poorly run bars owned by clueless people?
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Hold up... is that Bay Street Bar and Grill in Jacksonville, FL?
Link Posted: 3/1/2024 7:52:34 PM EDT
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Titty Shippers would be a great name for a porn site.
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Originally Posted By cavedog:
Shitty Tippers is a great name for a garage band.


Titty Shippers would be a great name for a porn site.


Link Posted: 3/1/2024 11:14:45 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By FredMan:

His name was Tyler Pernal.

His NAME WAS TYLER PERNAL.
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Originally Posted By FredMan:
Originally Posted By FuriousYachtsman:
@TylerPernal

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/256621/Capture_JPG-3144897.JPG

His name was Tyler Pernal.

His NAME WAS TYLER PERNAL.

Cut the man some slack.
I stiffed a bartender or two in my day.
One, I splained why. "On the bar in the (tip) jar". Fuck you. I turned around and walked out if that asswipe was behind the bar when I walked in. Only had to do that once. The cocksucker got sent to the hood. "@Skillman @ 635" DFW. Google it.
Danger zone.
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