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Originally Posted By RarestRX: I ain't gonna lie, I fast forwarded through a lot of that. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By RarestRX: Originally Posted By APPARITION: It was a much better video than the rollback shenanigans. I ain't gonna lie, I fast forwarded through a lot of that. Really enjoy his channel, so much I'll be at the Freedom 500. But the fuckery in that video drove me nuts. Time lapse it and build it right please. |
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Originally Posted By RarestRX: Since it sidelined the use of that chopper for 7 years, bet you it's pretty spendy. Hopefully Paul's Got a New Old Stock unit he can sell him for cheap. View Quote That, and its location. Expensive and hard to find in Venezuela. May have been why it was stolen in the first place. |
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Whew, quite a project there. That brought back a little PTSD for me when I bought a 407 out of Chile. Pain in the ass! Had to pay $55k to put the aircraft on a cargo plane and flown up to Miami. Another $45k later and it was a certified US ship, great machine. (And we never had any problems with wooden crates through customs)
Anyways, that looks like a decent E model, has many great upgrades for that machine. Time will tell on the records and component condition, it will get expensive quickly for him, and he has a lot to learn about that machine. And usually with a ship that hasn't flown in a long time, the expensive part of the journey starts when you start flying it. Cracked exhaust, $15k, poof. Gearbox chip light, $80k+, poof. Just getting a new rotor head will be over $100k, if you can even find one. Helicopters are not for the faint of heart. Thoroughbred is an interesting choice. I know they do plenty of work, but I've heard of customers having mixed results with them, I'll just leave it at that. |
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Originally Posted By APPARITION: Isn't Thoroughbred the ones that did HeavyD's Blackhawk? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By APPARITION: Originally Posted By PORK_REAP3R: Thoroughbred is an interesting choice. I know they do plenty of work, but I've heard of customers having mixed results with them, I'll just leave it at that. Isn't Thoroughbred the ones that did HeavyD's Blackhawk? Yes. And I've never used Thoroughbred, we do our stuff in house, so I don't want to throw stones unnecessarily, I just know some other unhappy customers of theirs, that's all. |
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Originally Posted By PORK_REAP3R: Yes. And I've never used Thoroughbred, we do our stuff in house, so I don't want to throw stones unnecessarily, I just know some other unhappy customers of theirs, that's all. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By PORK_REAP3R: Originally Posted By APPARITION: Originally Posted By PORK_REAP3R: Thoroughbred is an interesting choice. I know they do plenty of work, but I've heard of customers having mixed results with them, I'll just leave it at that. Isn't Thoroughbred the ones that did HeavyD's Blackhawk? Yes. And I've never used Thoroughbred, we do our stuff in house, so I don't want to throw stones unnecessarily, I just know some other unhappy customers of theirs, that's all. Sure, I know nothing about them anyway. I'm sure Cleet is using them because of Dave. |
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Can't wait to see him land it inside the track at an event.
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Originally Posted By PORK_REAP3R: Nowadays, probably $120k. The last quote I got about 3 years ago for a new head outright was $93k. They usually run in the 60s for exchange, but he doesn't have a core to exchange. View Quote Ouch. Given your history, can you give us an educated guess on how much he paid for that MD? @PORK_REAP3R |
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Originally Posted By PORK_REAP3R: Whew, quite a project there. That brought back a little PTSD for me when I bought a 407 out of Chile. Pain in the ass! Had to pay $55k to put the aircraft on a cargo plane and flown up to Miami. Another $45k later and it was a certified US ship, great machine. (And we never had any problems with wooden crates through customs) Anyways, that looks like a decent E model, has many great upgrades for that machine. Time will tell on the records and component condition, it will get expensive quickly for him, and he has a lot to learn about that machine. And usually with a ship that hasn't flown in a long time, the expensive part of the journey starts when you start flying it. Cracked exhaust, $15k, poof. Gearbox chip light, $80k+, poof. Just getting a new rotor head will be over $100k, if you can even find one. Helicopters are not for the faint of heart. Thoroughbred is an interesting choice. I know they do plenty of work, but I've heard of customers having mixed results with them, I'll just leave it at that. View Quote Wait?? How do you get it out of Chile without the export tax? I had to pay someone off in order for them to fix the paperwork that the export was temporary. Picked up a 407 from the military on another deal afterwards. Payoff was much less. |
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Originally Posted By PORK_REAP3R: Anyways, that looks like a decent E model, has many great upgrades for that machine. Time will tell on the records and component condition, it will get expensive quickly for him, and he has a lot to learn about that machine. And usually with a ship that hasn't flown in a long time, the expensive part of the journey starts when you start flying it. Cracked exhaust, $15k, poof. Gearbox chip light, $80k+, poof. Just getting a new rotor head will be over $100k, if you can even find one. Helicopters are not for the faint of heart. View Quote A couple of years ago he hinted at owning a helicopter and the tail was shown in a video at his home garage/hanger. Comments were that he bought Dave Sparks BO105. Around the same time there was a video of Dave landing at the FF in the BO105, possibly delivering it. I suspect he has a good handle on the costs. The MD was sitting due to the missing rotor head so he probably found one already (his buddy Paul?) or why risk the purchase. |
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I am jealous.
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Originally Posted By RarestRX: Ouch. Given your history, can you give us an educated guess on how much he paid for that MD? View Quote Lot of things go into the purchase price, aircraft total time and time remaining on components are the 2 big ones for helos. Without knowing either of those things it's difficult to say. Just going off the video, my guess is he is roughly $250k into it, maybe $300k. He might get it going again for another $300 - $400k. It will probably be a good machine once it's all done, but I would wager he will have another $150k into it within the first 300 hrs of flight time. Still though, if he ends up around $750k all said and done, that's a pretty good price for an E model, but I don't know the total time. To put it in perspective, I'm closing on another E model tomorrow at a price of $1.25M, 8k hours total time, which is low to mid time. |
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Reddit had the story on Sparks selling the BO105.
So Cleetus already has a turbine powered helicopter. Attached File In the recent "Snowed In" series of videos on Sparks channel they talked about the giveaway trucks by selling merchandise. They were among the first to do them so less competition, but they made $15 million on a single giveaway. Cleetus can afford a top of the line rebuild on this helicopter, but he is budget minded and watches his pennies, plus......content, which makes much(all?) of this rebuild a business expense. Edit: Spelin' |
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Originally Posted By UtahShotgunner: A couple of years ago he hinted at owning a helicopter and the tail was shown in a video at his home garage/hanger. Comments were that he bought Dave Sparks BO105. Around the same time there was a video of Dave landing at the FF in the BO105, possibly delivering it. I suspect he has a good handle on the costs. The MD was sitting due to the missing rotor head so he probably found one already (his buddy Paul?) or why risk the purchase. View Quote Maybe, but I'm just going off the video, and he doesn't seem to know much about helicopters. Paul knows, I can tell, and it's good he is advising. Parts for those MD machines are hard to come by sometimes, and it depends on the component. There for awhile you couldn't get a rotor head for 6 to 8 months, then it was oil cooler bearings, then main rotor transmission, on and on. It's been a real struggle in the industry with parts since COVID. Fucking liberals shutting down the world really screwed up supply chains. |
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Originally Posted By PORK_REAP3R: Maybe, but I'm just going off the video, and he doesn't seem to know much about helicopters. Paul knows, I can tell, and it's good he is advising. View Quote He knows, IMO. I have watched a few podcast interviews with him. 4-5 years ago he mentioned his business manager and accountant in passing. He is young man with a plan and the work ethic to see it through. This helicopter project should be a blast to watch through completion. |
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Originally Posted By UtahShotgunner: @Monsterbishi View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By UtahShotgunner: Originally Posted By RarestRX: Originally Posted By Monsterbishi: Will be interesting to see how the repairs held up in the 90's from when it got wanged into a glacier. Ooh, do you know about this airframe? Tell us more! @Monsterbishi It's service history is available online, check out 0141E at notar-helicopters.nl/500e01.htm for it's reg history. |
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Originally Posted By UtahShotgunner: He knows, IMO. I have watched a few podcast interviews with him. 4-5 years ago he mentioned his business manager and accountant in passing. He is young man with a plan and the work ethic to see it through. This helicopter project should be a blast to watch through completion. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By UtahShotgunner: Originally Posted By PORK_REAP3R: Maybe, but I'm just going off the video, and he doesn't seem to know much about helicopters. Paul knows, I can tell, and it's good he is advising. He knows, IMO. I have watched a few podcast interviews with him. 4-5 years ago he mentioned his business manager and accountant in passing. He is young man with a plan and the work ethic to see it through. This helicopter project should be a blast to watch through completion. I appreciate that he doesn't come across like a douche in his videos. He looks like a regular guy just having fun fooling around. My guess is he consciously tries not to sound like an arrogant know-it-all. |
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Originally Posted By wc22312: We've reached the phase where we watch him spend the money he made off us. Kinda why I stopped with demoranch, well that and brcc. That MD gonna be sick and I've bought merch and went to shows. Toast is sick irl View Quote I enjoy watching people that all their hard work and risk has paid off, why would anyone have a problem with that? |
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Originally Posted By Monsterbishi: It's service history is available online, check out 0141E at notar-helicopters.nl/500e01.htm for it's reg history. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Monsterbishi: Originally Posted By UtahShotgunner: Originally Posted By RarestRX: Originally Posted By Monsterbishi: Will be interesting to see how the repairs held up in the 90's from when it got wanged into a glacier. Ooh, do you know about this airframe? Tell us more! @Monsterbishi It's service history is available online, check out 0141E at notar-helicopters.nl/500e01.htm for it's reg history. Learning how to dig out information I have never looked for below. McDonnell Douglas MD 500E (369E) Owner/operator:Heli-Neuchâtel SA Registration:HB-XZG MSN:0141E Year of manufacture:1985 Fatalities:Fatalities: 0 / Occupants: 5 Aircraft damage:Substantial Location:Gadmen, BE - Switzerland Phase:Landing Nature:Passenger Departure airport:La Chaux-de-Fonds Destination airport:Gadmen - offshore Investigating agency: BFU Switz. Confidence Rating: Information verified through data from accident investigation authorities Narrative: The helicopter touched a house during landing and flipped to the side afterwards crashing into the snow. Four of the five occupants were minor injured and one was substantial injured. Helicopter was heavily damaged, but rebuilt. |
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Originally Posted By PORK_REAP3R: Lot of things go into the purchase price, aircraft total time and time remaining on components are the 2 big ones for helos. Without knowing either of those things it's difficult to say. Just going off the video, my guess is he is roughly $250k into it, maybe $300k. He might get it going again for another $300 - $400k. It will probably be a good machine once it's all done, but I would wager he will have another $150k into it within the first 300 hrs of flight time. Still though, if he ends up around $750k all said and done, that's a pretty good price for an E model, but I don't know the total time. To put it in perspective, I'm closing on another E model tomorrow at a price of $1.25M, 8k hours total time, which is low to mid time. View Quote Thanks for that info. So if the hours aren't too high, he got about half off? Cool. Also, gonna post this here since I've loved the 500D since Magnum PI: https://magnum-mania.com/Articles/The_Chopper.html I assume these are some kind of emergency float skids? |
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Originally Posted By RarestRX: Thanks for that info. So if the hours aren't too high, he got about half off? Cool. Also, gonna post this here since I've loved the 500D since Magnum PI: https://magnum-mania.com/Articles/The_Chopper.html I assume these are some kind of emergency float skids? https://magnum-mania.com/images/3_5_j_full.jpg View Quote Oh I love me some 500D models, we have 2, such a classic design. Believe it or not, some folks have painted their machines like the Magnum PI ships in recent years, I think it's disgusting. Yes, those are floats, typical in tropical tour ships or tuna boat operators. We're actually going to be releasing some cool MD content in the coming weeks, I'll post it up here when it drops. Here's a snapshot of our machines hunting hogs in OK: Attached File Can't get any other images to upload... |
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Originally Posted By PORK_REAP3R: Oh I love me some 500D models, we have 2, such a classic design. Believe it or not, some folks have painted their machines like the Magnum PI ships in recent years, I think it's disgusting. Yes, those are floats, typical in tropical tour ships or tuna boat operators. We're actually going to be releasing some cool MD content in the coming weeks, I'll post it up here when it drops. Here's a snapshot of our machines hunting hogs in OK: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/95974/20240130_165803_jpg-3157350.JPG Can't get any other images to upload... View Quote You shut your whore mouth, the flying Easter egg scheme is amazing and iconic. But about those floats, I assume there is some kind of inflation mechanism? I'm not great at math but pretty sure those have to be a lot bigger and a lot more buoyant. |
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Carfax for choppers is a thing. Who would have thought?
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Originally Posted By RattleCanAR: Carfax for choppers is a thing. Who would have thought? View Quote For additional giggles the crash report is in Swiss French and the co-ordinates were in a weird Swiss system called LV03, a 120 year old system which used a university building in Bern, Switzerland as its reference point... |
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Originally Posted By RarestRX: You shut your whore mouth, the flying Easter egg scheme is amazing and iconic. https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BNzExM2NjN2EtZGFlYS00N2ZiLWE1N2QtYTI4NTMyNDVmZThjXkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyMDc4ODAzOA@@._V1_.jpg But about those floats, I assume there is some kind of inflation mechanism? I'm not great at math but pretty sure those have to be a lot bigger and a lot more buoyant. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By RarestRX: Originally Posted By PORK_REAP3R: Oh I love me some 500D models, we have 2, such a classic design. Believe it or not, some folks have painted their machines like the Magnum PI ships in recent years, I think it's disgusting. Yes, those are floats, typical in tropical tour ships or tuna boat operators. We're actually going to be releasing some cool MD content in the coming weeks, I'll post it up here when it drops. Here's a snapshot of our machines hunting hogs in OK: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/95974/20240130_165803_jpg-3157350.JPG Can't get any other images to upload... You shut your whore mouth, the flying Easter egg scheme is amazing and iconic. https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BNzExM2NjN2EtZGFlYS00N2ZiLWE1N2QtYTI4NTMyNDVmZThjXkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyMDc4ODAzOA@@._V1_.jpg But about those floats, I assume there is some kind of inflation mechanism? I'm not great at math but pretty sure those have to be a lot bigger and a lot more buoyant. The floats look like a ridgid hull inflatable boats. They are always inflated. There are emergency inflatables too. Much smaller. |
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Originally Posted By RarestRX: There's no way. Has to be some kind of emergency thing. It would look like this if always inflated: https://www.heli-archive.ch/fileadmin/_processed_/5/e/csm_NH-500D_GDF_6404261_1551cea55c.jpg View Quote They make both types. The rigid pontoon type systems are found mostly on tuna boats, the 500 is a common tuna spotting helicopter. The other system is an inflatable type, the bags are folded and contained in a housing that is strapped to the skids. We've never had a machine that had them, but I believe there is a nitrogen bottle for pressurization in emergencies. |
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I hate to say it, but that flying shit will end him if he keeps it up. I'm calling it now, if he doesn't stay grounded he will end up dead.
And I love cleet, don't get me wrong. I'd beg him to stay on the ground if I ever meet him again. |
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Originally Posted By DoubleTaps: I hate to say it, but that flying shit will end him if he keeps it up. I'm calling it now, if he doesn't stay grounded he will end up dead. And I love cleet, don't get me wrong. I'd beg him to stay on the ground if I ever meet him again. View Quote It's probably one of the most dangerous hobbies, that's for sure. But he just had his second kid, and if you watch that long line video, he knows when to tap out when he's tired/mentally exhausted. I don't think he'll let it get that far where he augurs in. |
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Originally Posted By PORK_REAP3R: Lot of things go into the purchase price, aircraft total time and time remaining on components are the 2 big ones for helos. Without knowing either of those things it's difficult to say. Just going off the video, my guess is he is roughly $250k into it, maybe $300k. He might get it going again for another $300 - $400k. It will probably be a good machine once it's all done, but I would wager he will have another $150k into it within the first 300 hrs of flight time. Still though, if he ends up around $750k all said and done, that's a pretty good price for an E model, but I don't know the total time. To put it in perspective, I'm closing on another E model tomorrow at a price of $1.25M, 8k hours total time, which is low to mid time. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By PORK_REAP3R: Originally Posted By RarestRX: Ouch. Given your history, can you give us an educated guess on how much he paid for that MD? Lot of things go into the purchase price, aircraft total time and time remaining on components are the 2 big ones for helos. Without knowing either of those things it's difficult to say. Just going off the video, my guess is he is roughly $250k into it, maybe $300k. He might get it going again for another $300 - $400k. It will probably be a good machine once it's all done, but I would wager he will have another $150k into it within the first 300 hrs of flight time. Still though, if he ends up around $750k all said and done, that's a pretty good price for an E model, but I don't know the total time. To put it in perspective, I'm closing on another E model tomorrow at a price of $1.25M, 8k hours total time, which is low to mid time. When they showed the engine log it was about 8100 hours in 2014 and I though he said it hadn't started in about seven years. |
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Originally Posted By DoubleTaps: I hate to say it, but that flying shit will end him if he keeps it up. I'm calling it now, if he doesn't stay grounded he will end up dead. And I love cleet, don't get me wrong. I'd beg him to stay on the ground if I ever meet him again. View Quote He seems to be putting in the work safety wise. Hell, there were the guys with the LS powered plane he straight up refused to fly in a few weeks back. |
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Originally Posted By Monsterbishi: For additional giggles the crash report is in Swiss French and the co-ordinates were in a weird Swiss system called LV03, a 120 year old system which used a university building in Bern, Switzerland as its reference point... View Quote The first "Bullseye"? |
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View Quote There is a rotor head, so I think they're playing for drama. Maybe. |
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