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Posted: 4/26/2024 1:04:42 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/26/2024 1:35:07 AM EDT
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Steelers new o-line pick had a acl injury and a lisfranc injury that has left him a bit stiff in that foot.
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NY, USA
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Posted: 4/26/2024 1:40:09 AM EDT
[Last Edit: kzin]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy: They gave the Kansas City Chiefs the opportunity to pick 4 places higher, and they got nothing in return. I can't fathom why they would do that. They upgraded a 4th to a 3rd and a 6th to a 5th for the 2nd trade and they'll end up taking the same player they wanted. Presumably, they didn't have Worthy or Legette rated clearly ahead of guys who are still there. I've heard they like Coleman and McConkey, now Beane's conscience is clear that he won't be taking a 2nd rounder in the first :) If they took their guy at 28, kc still gets Worthy and Carolina still gets Legette. Trading down has always been a solid possibility at 28 with this years wr depth. They may very well trade down again. Trading up for the big 3 would have required being raped this year and next. Plus I think they now get to pick Mr Irrelevant. Brock Purdy II to back up Josh! |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 2:08:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hunter-Killer: Did anyone watch it? Cliffsnotes? Read the report. "We can't block kc from doing what they want so we take what's good for us." I agree "We're excited about friday. We went from 1 pick to 3." Um, yeah we gained a 3rd but we 'gained' the other one by backing up! |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 5:50:51 AM EDT
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The Falcons drafting Penix at #8 when they could have chosen some other position to improve is pure Atlanta Falconry. They deserve to lose.
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Posted: 4/26/2024 6:10:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rebel31: You guy's should be used to this by now   Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rebel31: Originally Posted By StarCityShooter: Originally Posted By stoner01: What The Fuck This. I stayed up for nothing  You guy's should be used to this by now  Attached File
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Posted: 4/26/2024 6:10:50 AM EDT
[Last Edit: StarCityShooter]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy: What the Bills did was worse than nothing. Nah, we gained higher picks and a 3rd rounder we didnt have ETA:  Moved down a total of 5 picks and received: 38 pick jump from 133 to 95 59 pick jump from 200 to 141 27 pick jump from 248 to 221 |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 6:11:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RikWriter: Not on. He traded the press conference back to 4AM. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RikWriter: Originally Posted By RSG: Originally Posted By Hunter-Killer: Is it normal for the first round to be wrapping up around midnight EST? Nothing like a midnight presser to explain yourself
Not on. He traded the press conference back to 4AM.  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 6:13:12 AM EDT
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5 hours of sleep and already at work. Dragging ass and grumpy
Life of a Bills fan
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FL, USA
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Posted: 4/26/2024 8:04:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StarCityShooter: 5 hours of sleep and already at work. Dragging ass and grumpy Life of a Bills fan At least you're not a Falcon's fan... 
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Posted: 4/26/2024 8:32:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StarCityShooter: 5 hours of sleep and already at work. Dragging ass and grumpy Life of a Bills fan 
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Posted: 4/26/2024 8:32:53 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/26/2024 8:46:13 AM EDT
[Last Edit: PossumKing]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By akcaribouhunter: Steelers new o-line pick had a acl injury and a lisfranc injury that has left him a bit stiff in that foot. How many players have come back to play at top level (or medium, or any level of productivity) after a lisfranc injury? I may be imagining things, but that always seems like a kiss of death. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 9:10:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By frankiebagadonuts: At least you're not a Falcon's fan... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By frankiebagadonuts: Originally Posted By StarCityShooter: 5 hours of sleep and already at work. Dragging ass and grumpy Life of a Bills fan At least you're not a Falcon's fan... I don’t know about that. I guess it depends on how you look at it. The Falcons weren’t going to do shit regardless. The Bills, on the other hand, have been a top 2 AFC team for the past half decade and are now nearing the end of their window with not even a Super Bowl appearance to show for it. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 9:14:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PossumKing: How many players have come back to play at top level (or medium, or any level of productivity) after a lisfranc injury? I may be imagining things, but that always seems like a kiss of death. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PossumKing: Originally Posted By akcaribouhunter: Steelers new o-line pick had a acl injury and a lisfranc injury that has left him a bit stiff in that foot. How many players have come back to play at top level (or medium, or any level of productivity) after a lisfranc injury? I may be imagining things, but that always seems like a kiss of death. More than you think. Brian Westbrook and Julio Jones had some of their best seasons after lisfranc injuries |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 9:23:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By governmentman: More than you think. Brian Westbrook and Julio Jones had some of their best seasons after lisfranc injuries Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By governmentman: Originally Posted By PossumKing: Originally Posted By akcaribouhunter: Steelers new o-line pick had a acl injury and a lisfranc injury that has left him a bit stiff in that foot. How many players have come back to play at top level (or medium, or any level of productivity) after a lisfranc injury? I may be imagining things, but that always seems like a kiss of death. More than you think. Brian Westbrook and Julio Jones had some of their best seasons after lisfranc injuries Good to know. It sounds like such a miserable injury that I must be over thinking it. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 9:35:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By frankiebagadonuts: At least you're not a Falcon's fan... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By frankiebagadonuts: Originally Posted By StarCityShooter: 5 hours of sleep and already at work. Dragging ass and grumpy Life of a Bills fan At least you're not a Falcon's fan... You guys should know the feeling by now. 
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Posted: 4/26/2024 9:38:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RSG:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GMFq7NOWUAAzGq9?format=jpg&name=900x900 
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Posted: 4/26/2024 9:38:52 AM EDT
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 I'm having trouble thinking of a GM quote that can top this for general stupidity. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 9:39:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Wobblin-Goblin: The Falcons drafting Penix at #8 when they could have chosen some other position to improve is pure Atlanta Falconry. They deserve to lose. Attached File |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 9:41:21 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Alembic]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hunter-Killer: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/258158/IMG_8249_jpeg-3198092.JPG I don't know, it seems Daniels is a more accurate passer version of Groot. LSU doesn't produce junk QBs. 
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Posted: 4/26/2024 9:56:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy:
https://gifdb.com/images/high/yikes-jim-the-office-v4b1dv22snn7xdbo.gif I'm having trouble thinking of a GM quote that can top this for general stupidity. Is that an actual quote he said or is that someone making a joke? |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 9:58:19 AM EDT
[Last Edit: frankiebagadonuts]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy:
https://gifdb.com/images/high/yikes-jim-the-office-v4b1dv22snn7xdbo.gif I'm having trouble thinking of a GM quote that can top this for general stupidity. Penix would be a 29 year old rookie by that point. They'd get 3-4 years from him before having to draft his successor. I get the thinking, but the timing and Penix's age aren't ideal. This is really just an over-correction from the botched Matt Ryan transition that AB forced with his pursuit of Watson. Ryan should have played out the last two seasons in ATL with Ridder as his backup. Ridder may have been successful learning from Ryan for 2 years instead of Mariotta for 3/4 of a season. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 10:00:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Alembic: I don't know, it seems Daniels is a more accurate passer version of Groot. LSU doesn't produce junk QBs. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Alembic: Originally Posted By Hunter-Killer: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/258158/IMG_8249_jpeg-3198092.JPG I don't know, it seems Daniels is a more accurate passer version of Groot. LSU doesn't produce junk QBs. Sure…. if you ignore LSU producing the biggest QB draft bust this century. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 10:13:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hunter-Killer: Is that an actual quote he said or is that someone making a joke? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hunter-Killer: Originally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy:
https://gifdb.com/images/high/yikes-jim-the-office-v4b1dv22snn7xdbo.gif I'm having trouble thinking of a GM quote that can top this for general stupidity. Is that an actual quote he said or is that someone making a joke? Actual quote.
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Posted: 4/26/2024 10:27:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RSG:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GMFq7NOWUAAzGq9?format=jpg&name=900x900 That's funny, I hadn't made that connection. The Falcons have been after another shot of Michael Vick type energy for years, even if he is a bench warmer for a while. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 10:34:30 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/26/2024 10:41:59 AM EDT
[Last Edit: akcaribouhunter]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PossumKing: How many players have come back to play at top level (or medium, or any level of productivity) after a lisfranc injury? I may be imagining things, but that always seems like a kiss of death. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PossumKing: Originally Posted By akcaribouhunter: Steelers new o-line pick had a acl injury and a lisfranc injury that has left him a bit stiff in that foot. How many players have come back to play at top level (or medium, or any level of productivity) after a lisfranc injury? I may be imagining things, but that always seems like a kiss of death. Slowed him down. Been some other players come back but never like they were before. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 10:52:54 AM EDT
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 lol |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 10:54:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy: Actual quote.
 Bet Penix and his agent loved hearing that. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 10:58:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Notcalifornialegal: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/219476/1000008058-3197940.jpg And look at the response they have received. The Falcons should be demoted to USFL. Whoever wins the USFL this July should be allowed to move up and take their place. RELEGATION! |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 11:00:37 AM EDT
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Two different views:
 
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Posted: 4/26/2024 11:01:42 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/26/2024 11:03:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hunter-Killer: Sure…. if you ignore LSU producing the biggest QB draft bust this century. Yeah, and upon further research, LSU has produced some stinkers at QB in the NFL
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Posted: 4/26/2024 11:03:40 AM EDT
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I member when GB drafted Love and Roger's went apeshit.
Sounds like the same song and dance. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 11:13:43 AM EDT
[Last Edit: David_ESM]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy: Two different views: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GMD_OiXXoAAfKjW?format=jpg&name=4096x4096 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GMF4FgbXgAAdZNt?format=jpg&name=4096x4096 The Raiders taking Brock Bowers at 13 is dumb. No quarterback and they just drafted Michael Mayer with the 35th overall pick last season. They either needed to be more aggressive about moving up to go after McCarthy or stick with a solid need for them and take one of the MANY offensive lineman options still on the board at that time. Broncos were desperate and did desperate things. I mentioned previously I thought Zach Wilson was good for them because it took some stress off so they wouldn't do something crazy in the draft... Well Bo Nix at 12 is something crazy. I thought the Vikings came out amazing. Only had to move up 1 spot for McCarthy to ensure they didn't get jumped by the Broncos/Raiders. Then going back up in the 1st and taking the Jags spot to get Dallas Turner at a great spot. Lions jumping right in front of the Packers to take the best man still on the board with Terrion Arnold was great for them. Got a really good player in a good spot while screwing the Packers out of what would likely have been there pick next. Then instead of going with that strong need in the secondary the Packers took a Guard in a questionable position. Not only that, but if the mean to keep him at Guard, then taking Graham Barton, who went next to the Bucs, would have been a better decision. The Chiefs did what many people expected them to do. Make a very small leap up to take one of the exact WRs people expected them to. They got their value out of it. Then it was quickly followed up by the 49ers and the Panthers going deep for WRs that shouldn't have gone in the 1st round. Likely going to waste the 5th year options there. And the 49ers, taking Ricky Pearsall? Might as well kiss
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Posted: 4/26/2024 11:17:05 AM EDT
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JJ weighing in:
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Posted: 4/26/2024 11:21:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy: Actual quote.
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy: Originally Posted By Hunter-Killer: Originally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy:
https://gifdb.com/images/high/yikes-jim-the-office-v4b1dv22snn7xdbo.gif I'm having trouble thinking of a GM quote that can top this for general stupidity. Is that an actual quote he said or is that someone making a joke? Actual quote.
Fuckin’ hell.
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Posted: 4/26/2024 11:21:43 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/26/2024 11:23:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Alembic: Bet Penix and his agent loved hearing that.Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Alembic: Originally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy: Actual quote.
Bet Penix and his agent loved hearing that.From what I'm hearing Cousins wasn't very happy about the pick. He didn't know anything about it until right before it was announced. Imagine how he feels right after he has been paraded around town and celebrated as a savior for the Falcons to hear his replacement is already on the books. He still gets paid but this trade may impact his mental game. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 11:26:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By David_ESM: Getting Brock Bowers at 13 is good. The Raiders taking Brock Bowers at 13 is dumb. Brock Bowers has the potential to be a top 3 TE in the NFL and he has the perfect personality and character traits I’d want from a football player on my team. However, I do have injury concerns. Though Gronk had injury concerns too and that worked out okay. Of course, Bowers won’t have the greatest QB in NFL history throwing to him for his entire career. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 11:28:50 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/26/2024 11:30:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TinSpinner: From what I'm hearing Cousins wasn't very happy about the pick. He didn't know anything about it until right before it was announced. Imagine how he feels right after he has been paraded around town and celebrated as a savior for the Falcons to hear his replacement is already on the books. He still gets paid but this trade may impact his mental game. Penix himself was surprised by the pick. "I'm not going to say I knew it was coming." |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 11:42:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hunter-Killer: Fuckin' hell.
Couple problems/differences there...
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Posted: 4/26/2024 11:43:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy:
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Posted: 4/26/2024 11:58:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TinSpinner: From what I'm hearing Cousins wasn't very happy about the pick. He didn't know anything about it until right before it was announced. Imagine how he feels right after he has been paraded around town and celebrated as a savior for the Falcons to hear his replacement is already on the books. He still gets paid but this trade may impact his mental game. While the pick was retarded, this seems like a non-story drummed up to be controversial. Cousins hasn't played one down with the Falcons yet. When it comes to who they pick in the draft, they don't owe him anything. He's getting paid $190 million to be the starting QB for the next two years; he wasn't hired for his input in the draft. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 12:12:21 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By David_ESM:
Couple problems/differences there...
There are two other pieces to the Jordan Love example: -While it looks like the Jordan Love process is going to have a happy ending, and it is trending in the right direction, we don't know that for sure yet. -There's always going to be what-ifs regarding what GB could have done with those two MVP level Aaron Rodgers seasons if they weren't burning resources on a developmental QB. Originally Posted By frankiebagadonuts: While the pick was retarded, this seems like a non-story drummed up to be controversial. Cousins hasn't played one down with the Falcons yet. When it comes to who they pick in the draft, they don't owe him anything. He's getting paid $190 million to be the starting QB for the next two years; he wasn't hired for his input in the draft. Cousins probably considered a variety of factors before taking the job in Atlanta. Pay, roster construction, coaching, competition in division/conference... all kinds of stuff. By most accounts, Cousins still wants an opportunity to compete. He didn't want to be a bridge QB, and he probably wouldn't have taken the job if that was the plan. And, like Love in GB, there will now be questions about Atlanta's roster could have looked like if they didn't jump on a developmental QB. I'm not going to cry for a dude making $100M to be a bridge QB, but I can see how he'd be unhappy about it. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 12:19:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy: And, like Love in GB, there will now be questions about Atlanta's roster could have looked like if they didn't jump on a developmental QB. I'm not going to cry for a dude making $100M to be a bridge QB, but I can see how he'd be unhappy about it. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 12:21:02 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/26/2024 12:27:08 PM EDT
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Via Sports Illustrated, the Falcon Report: Michael Penix Brings Atlanta Falcons Closer to Building 'Sustained Winner'
"We're thinking more long-term with this," Fontenot said. "Still very, very excited about Kirk that has not changed. This is a pick thinking about the future." Fontenot views quarterback as the most important position in football. When factoring in Penix's intangibles, physical tools and proven winning abilities, the opportunity proved too good to bypass. "When you have a lot of belief in a player, you can't pass that up," Fontenot said. "If we weren't staring at Penix, we weren't going to reach and force something. We have a lot of belief in the player and we know he can be a future franchise player." The Falcons intend on winning with Cousins - and, consequently, won't have the chance to select a long-term solution in future drafts. Armed with belief that Penix can take over the reins after Cousins, the Falcons pulled the trigger with their eyes fixated multiple years down the line. "When you get Kirk Cousins, you talk about short-term winning, winning right now, which we know we're going to be in position to do," Morris said. "We won't have the ability to be picking this high again with the guy we got, and these guys go off the board pretty quickly." "We're going to build a sustained winner," Fontenot said, "and we're going to win for a long time." |
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