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Posted: 4/26/2024 12:28:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Hunter-Killer]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy: There are two other pieces to the Jordan Love example: -While it looks like the Jordan Love process is going to have a happy ending, and it is trending in the right direction, we don't know that for sure yet. -There's always going to be what-ifs regarding what GB could have done with those two MVP level Aaron Rodgers seasons if they weren't burning resources on a developmental QB. Exactly. One good season and already some people are assuming he’s going to follow in Favre and Rodgers’ footsteps. Two Hall of Fame QBs who won a Super Bowl and multiple MVPs. I’ve been saying that for years. Would the #1 seed Packers with the MVP QB have lost a home NFC Championship game against the Bucs if they had a first round pick playing instead of riding the bench? Would the #1 seed Packers with the MVP QB have gone one and done to a team that didn’t even score an offensive TD? |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 12:35:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By David_ESM:
Couple problems/differences there...
The GB model was full on retard. You move UP to draft a QB you don’t need that pisses off your QB followed up by drafted a shitty RB that you don’t need AFTER you sign Jones to a 4? year deal instead of letting him walk. You also don’t bring back Williams and instead he goes to the Lions. You do all this instead of drafting what your team actually needs and lose in the NFC Championship game. Anyone who thinks that model works is idiotic. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 12:37:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: GenYRevolverGuy]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By David_ESM: Broncos were desperate and did desperate things. I mentioned previously I thought Zach Wilson was good for them because it took some stress off so they wouldn't do something crazy in the draft... Well Bo Nix at 12 is something crazy. I'm not going to laugh too hard (I also shared in laughter when the Chargers took Herbert), but the fact that Denver took the 2nd oldest 1st round QB ever and that QB was the 6th off the board at #12... those are encouraging details for fans of anyone except the Broncos. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 12:37:23 PM EDT
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Via NFL.com: Rams QB Matthew Stafford seeking adjusted contract with more guaranteed money
Stafford is seeking an adjustment to his contract that would provide him with more guaranteed money beyond the 2024 season, NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport reported Thursday. Rapoport added the veteran quarterback, who believes he has plenty more in the gas tank, has been in attendance for voluntary practices, but it's a bit of a lingering offseason issue for the Rams to be content with. He signed a 4 year $160M ($40MPY) extension before the 2022 season to keep him with the Rams through 2026. He has completed just 1 year of the extension (2023). He has already received $66M of the $160M. Due an additional $94M over the next 3 years. His 2024 salary ($31M) is already fully guaranteed. $10M of 2025 is already fully guaranteed. Meaning he will absolutely receive at least $107M of the $160M extension. Having said all that, what the fuck else does he want? Fuck off Matt. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 12:38:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By David_ESM: Getting Brock Bowers at 13 is good. The Raiders taking Brock Bowers at 13 is dumb. No quarterback and they just drafted Michael Mayer with the 35th overall pick last season. They either needed to be more aggressive about moving up to go after McCarthy or stick with a solid need for them and take one of the MANY offensive lineman options still on the board at that time. But he's a WEAPON OF MASS RECEPTIONS...just like Kyle Pitts |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 12:42:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RSG: But he's a WEAPON OF MASS RECEPTIONS...just like Kyle Pitts |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 12:42:53 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/26/2024 12:44:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By frankiebagadonuts: Penix would be a 29 year old rookie by that point. They'd get 3-4 years from him before having to draft his successor. I get the thinking, but the timing and Penix's age aren't ideal. This is really just an over-correction from the botched Matt Ryan transition that AB forced with his pursuit of Watson. Ryan should have played out the last two seasons in ATL with Ridder as his backup. Ridder may have been successful learning from Ryan for 2 years instead of Mariotta for 3/4 of a season. You mean to tell me that drafting a backup QB in the top 10 before the FA QB you broke the bank for has even taken a snap isn’t ideal timing? |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 12:44:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy: Actual quote.
That isn't really any better. In fact, it might be worse. 
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Posted: 4/26/2024 12:45:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy: Actual quote.
Bellicheck’s dog would be a better GM. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 12:45:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By David_ESM: Via NFL.com: Rams QB Matthew Stafford seeking adjusted contract with more guaranteed money Stafford is seeking an adjustment to his contract that would provide him with more guaranteed money beyond the 2024 season, NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport reported Thursday. Rapoport added the veteran quarterback, who believes he has plenty more in the gas tank, has been in attendance for voluntary practices, but it's a bit of a lingering offseason issue for the Rams to be content with. He signed a 4 year $160M ($40MPY) extension before the 2022 season to keep him with the Rams through 2026. He has completed just 1 year of the extension (2023). He has already received $66M of the $160M. Due an additional $94M over the next 3 years. His 2024 salary ($31M) is already fully guaranteed. $10M of 2025 is already fully guaranteed. Meaning he will absolutely receive at least $107M of the $160M extension. Having said all that, what the fuck else does he want? Fuck off Matt. Fingers crossed he breaks the Pick 6 record before his career ends.  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 12:45:47 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/26/2024 12:47:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: David_ESM]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy:
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy:
Originally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy:
No running back in the first round. It is the 2nd time in the last 3 years. Only happened 2 times in the 40 years before that. 1st round RBs selected in the 1990's: 32 1st round RBs selected in the 2000's: 32 1st round RBs selected in the 2010's: 15 1st round RBs selected in the 2020's: 5 |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 12:47:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By David_ESM:  And look at the response they have received. The Falcons should be demoted to USFL. Whoever wins the USFL this July should be allowed to move up and take their place. RELEGATION! You know, I LOVE that idea. The worst NFL team gets demoted to the USFL, while the USFL Champion moves up to the NFL. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 12:48:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hamiltbl2: Bellicheck’s dog would be a better GM. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hamiltbl2: Originally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy: Actual quote.
Bellicheck’s dog would be a better GM. The regulars in this thread, using only open source, commercially available scouting and analysis, could sit in a conference room and outperform the actual Atlanta Falcons front office. And it wouldn't be hard. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 12:55:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By David_ESM:
Couple problems/differences there...
There’s really no comparison to the GB with Love. I mean if Williams/Daniels had dropped to 8th - then I could see it. This should go down as one of the worst draft picks ever. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 12:57:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By frankiebagadonuts: While the pick was retarded, this seems like a non-story drummed up to be controversial. Cousins hasn't played one down with the Falcons yet. When it comes to who they pick in the draft, they don't owe him anything. He's getting paid $190 million to be the starting QB for the next two years; he wasn't hired for his input in the draft. Yeah. Who does this guy think he is? Does he want to win or something? He came to the wrong team to do that. Shut up and cash those checks. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 12:59:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy: The regulars in this thread, using only open source, commercially available scouting and analysis, could sit in a conference room and outperform the actual Atlanta Falcons front office. And it wouldn't be hard. We'd still be better after we each had a six pack. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 12:59:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hamiltbl2: Yeah. Who does this guy think he is? Does he want to win or something? He came to the wrong team to do that. Shut up and cash those checks.  |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 12:59:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hamiltbl2: There’s really no comparison to the GB with Love. I mean if Williams/Daniels had dropped to 8th - then I could see it. This should go down as one of the worst draft picks ever. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hamiltbl2: Originally Posted By David_ESM:
Couple problems/differences there...
There’s really no comparison to the GB with Love. I mean if Williams/Daniels had dropped to 8th - then I could see it. This should go down as one of the worst draft picks ever. Well, at least for the Falcons their QB pick won’t result in them potentially pissing away multiple rings they could have won with the #1 seed and that year’s MVP at QB.  |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 1:01:57 PM EDT
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Goodell on with Pat today. Mentioned the schedule hope for the NFL:
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Posted: 4/26/2024 1:03:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By David_ESM: Kirk Cousins after a long day at the office mentoring Penix: https://i.makeagif.com/media/2-17-2016/7ZoOxX.gif Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By David_ESM: Originally Posted By Hamiltbl2: Yeah. Who does this guy think he is? Does he want to win or something? He came to the wrong team to do that. Shut up and cash those checks. https://i.makeagif.com/media/2-17-2016/7ZoOxX.gif Indeed. I can see where Cousins would be a little flustered about this but hey he's getting a ton of money guaranteed so I'd be less upset about that. Cousins has been really smart about his contracts and getting that money. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 1:05:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Notcalifornialegal]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By David_ESM: Goodell on with Pat today. Mentioned the schedule hope for the NFL:
That would actually be a great idea. Day after this year's superbowl I almost scared off a client because my voice was fucked up and gone. 
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Posted: 4/26/2024 1:06:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy: The regulars in this thread, using only open source, commercially available scouting and analysis, could sit in a conference room and outperform the actual Atlanta Falcons front office. And it wouldn't be hard. Anyone that’s watched an episode of Sportscenter could outperform this front office. The best pick they’ve made in the 1st round was a TE at #4. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 1:18:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By David_ESM: Lions jumping right in front of the Packers to take the best man still on the board with Terrion Arnold was great for them. Got a really good player in a good spot while screwing the Packers out of what would likely have been there pick next. Then instead of going with that strong need in the secondary the Packers took a Guard in a questionable position. Not only that, but if the mean to keep him at Guard, then taking Graham Barton, who went next to the Bucs, would have been a better decision. I think the Lions were smart to make that move before GB picked him, but realistically I’m not sold on GB needing another 1st round DB. Alexander, Stokes, & Valentine isn’t a bad trio when they’re healthy. O-Line is realistically their biggest position of need outside of ILB and I’m not sure if there was a ILB worth taking at that point. As far as I can tell, the guy they drafted fits their OL philosophy of agile lineman that can be moved around the line. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 1:37:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: David_ESM]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Maverick52: I think the Lions were smart to make that move before GB picked him, but realistically I'm not sold on GB needing another 1st round DB. Alexander, Stokes, & Valentine isn't a bad trio when they're healthy. O-Line is realistically their biggest position of need outside of ILB and I'm not sure if there was a ILB worth taking at that point. As far as I can tell, the guy they drafted fits their OL philosophy of agile lineman that can be moved around the line. Morgan has been a 1st round prospect according to most of the draft analysts, at worst a 2nd rounder. But he is definitely more a flex position player. A guy they could insert at either tackle or guard and will make do. Versus picking someone who is going to excel in one spot. If it's to be a dedicated guard, Graham would have been far and above a better pick. He is also a much more capable guy if they needed him to slide into center. By taking Morgan it feels like they may be thinking of moving Tom to Center and putting Morgan at RT. Morgan is a bit undersized for tackle, but so was Bakhtiari when they drafted him. So we'll see. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 1:40:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: David_ESM]
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Via Tom Pelissero: The Falcons are the first team in the common draft era (1967-) to select offensive skill position players, in the top 8, in 4 consecutive drafts.
Kyle Pitts, Drake London, Bijan Robinson, Michael Penix Jr. Edit: And Michael Penix Jr, in spite of being the last one drafted, is the oldest out of all 4.
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Posted: 4/26/2024 1:47:58 PM EDT
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Out of curiosity, I looked up the career history of the Falcons’ GM.
Suddenly I’m thinking there is a possibility this gross incompetence might be intentional.  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 1:51:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By David_ESM: Via Tom Pelissero: The Falcons are the first team in the common draft era (1967-) to select offensive skill position players, in the top 8, in 4 consecutive drafts. Kyle Pitts, Drake London, Bijan Robinson, Michael Penix Jr. Edit: And Michael Penix Jr, in spite of being the last one drafted, is the oldest out of all 4. Well, that is also the reason that they have had the chance to draft in the top 8 for four straight years... I just heard the best analogy about the situation: "It's like cheating on your wife on your honeymoon." |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 1:56:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By frankiebagadonuts: Well, that is also the reason that they have had the chance to draft in the top 8 for four straight years... I just heard the best analogy about the situation: "It's like cheating on your wife on your honeymoon." Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By frankiebagadonuts: Originally Posted By David_ESM: Via Tom Pelissero: The Falcons are the first team in the common draft era (1967-) to select offensive skill position players, in the top 8, in 4 consecutive drafts. Kyle Pitts, Drake London, Bijan Robinson, Michael Penix Jr. Edit: And Michael Penix Jr, in spite of being the last one drafted, is the oldest out of all 4. Well, that is also the reason that they have had the chance to draft in the top 8 for four straight years... I just heard the best analogy about the situation: "It's like cheating on your wife on your honeymoon." Along Came Polly Very unrated comedy, IMO.  |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 1:59:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: GenYRevolverGuy]
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ETA: Rickey 4 hours earlier-
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Posted: 4/26/2024 2:03:18 PM EDT
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I think everyone has forgot that the 2023 season was the year of the backup QB.
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Posted: 4/26/2024 2:17:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: GenYRevolverGuy]
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  ETA: 
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Posted: 4/26/2024 2:20:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: David_ESM]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy:
NFL Chief Medical Officer Allen Sills in response, "So we might actually see a Guardian Cap on a player in a game this year. That's possible. Great. Big change coming up." So which player is going to be the first to opt to wear it? Edit: Going to be a Center? I would guess it will likely be an offensive lineman of some sort. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 2:38:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy:
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Posted: 4/26/2024 2:54:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: zach_]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By David_ESM: NFL Chief Administrative Officer Dawn Aponte stated it was now an option to wear during a game if the player so chooses. NFL Chief Medical Officer Allen Sills in response, "So we might actually see a Guardian Cap on a player in a game this year. That's possible. Great. Big change coming up." So which player is going to be the first to opt to wear it? Edit: Going to be a Center? I would guess it will likely be an offensive lineman of some sort. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By David_ESM: Originally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy:
NFL Chief Medical Officer Allen Sills in response, "So we might actually see a Guardian Cap on a player in a game this year. That's possible. Great. Big change coming up." So which player is going to be the first to opt to wear it? Edit: Going to be a Center? I would guess it will likely be an offensive lineman of some sort. Too much traction and leverage on the head imo. Somebody will get their head turned around exorcist style. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 2:58:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: StarCityShooter]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy:
ETA: Rickey 4 hours earlier-
Nah, I dont want Deebo in Buffalo. Use the picks to get good, cheap talent. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 3:01:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By David_ESM: NFL Chief Administrative Officer Dawn Aponte stated it was now an option to wear during a game if the player so chooses. NFL Chief Medical Officer Allen Sills in response, "So we might actually see a Guardian Cap on a player in a game this year. That's possible. Great. Big change coming up." So which player is going to be the first to opt to wear it? Edit: Going to be a Center? I would guess it will likely be an offensive lineman of some sort. If the entire O line wore them, it would be an effective way to obscure the defense vision |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 3:05:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 20229mm: If the entire O line wore them, it would be an effective way to obscure the defense vision "Upgrade your O line with this one simple trick..."
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Posted: 4/26/2024 3:16:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StarCityShooter: Nah, I dont want Deebo in Buffalo. Use the picks to get good, cheap talent. #thatsright |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 3:17:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By David_ESM: It's hard to say it's a bad move. They need OL, they drafted OL. So in that sense you can say they did something right immediately. Morgan has been a 1st round prospect according to most of the draft analysts, at worst a 2nd rounder. But he is definitely more a flex position player. A guy they could insert at either tackle or guard and will make do. Versus picking someone who is going to excel in one spot. If it's to be a dedicated guard, Graham would have been far and above a better pick. He is also a much more capable guy if they needed him to slide into center. By taking Morgan it feels like they may be thinking of moving Tom to Center and putting Morgan at RT. Morgan is a bit undersized for tackle, but so was Bakhtiari when they drafted him. So we'll see. I think he’s a Runyan replacement that will be able to play tackle when injuries hit. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 3:20:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 20229mm: If the entire O line wore them, it would be an effective way to obscure the defense vision Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 20229mm: Originally Posted By David_ESM: NFL Chief Administrative Officer Dawn Aponte stated it was now an option to wear during a game if the player so chooses. NFL Chief Medical Officer Allen Sills in response, "So we might actually see a Guardian Cap on a player in a game this year. That's possible. Great. Big change coming up." So which player is going to be the first to opt to wear it? Edit: Going to be a Center? I would guess it will likely be an offensive lineman of some sort. If the entire O line wore them, it would be an effective way to obscure the defense vision If the Cardinals or Panthers O-line wears them, they’ll invent the QB screen play. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 3:22:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GMHDCrlaIAATUDf?format=jpg&name=small https://tutto80.it/public/images/20237718992.jpg ETA: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GMHEtQRXoAIl6Pb?format=png&name=small It’s going to be hilarious if a player wears something that goofy looking during a game. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 3:43:09 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/26/2024 5:06:43 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/26/2024 5:13:11 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/26/2024 5:48:22 PM EDT
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Albert Breer is reporting that the Giants offered the #6 and their 2025 1st to move up to #3 with New England, but the Patriots declined.
If true, I guess the Giants were okay replacing Jones with Maye, but not McCarthy. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 6:41:53 PM EDT
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New Chicago Bears WR Rome Odunze on a Chicago Sports Radio interview. Informed that the Bears' all-time leading receiver is Johnny Morris with 5,059 yards.
"In the career?"  "I hope I go break that record and add a few thousand to it."  |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 7:23:43 PM EDT
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Kollman predicted Ladd if they took Alt Two days ago. Nailed it
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Posted: 4/26/2024 7:30:15 PM EDT
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Gute with 6% of picks occurring tonight
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