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Posted: 3/15/2024 5:56:45 PM EDT
[#1]
I knew a guy who years later killed his wife. Technically he wasn't a murderer at the time that I knew him.
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Posted: 3/15/2024 6:42:41 PM EDT
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I forgot about this one. One of my old friend's divorced dad was a hard core alcoholic - was on a disability retirement at a fairly young age from a government job back when I met him. He married a younger German woman he met in a bar and relocated to Montana.
In 1993 he ended up shotgunning a couple people over drunken nonsense - killed one and I think his other victim may have lost an arm. Supposedly he was offered a plea deal that would have had him plead guilty to manslaughter and serve 5 years and the idiot decided to take it to trial and plead self-defense. Ended up doing life - think he was released during covid and may have died shortly after. https://lawofselfdefense.com/law_case/state-v-hagen-903-p-2d-1381-mt-supreme-court/ |
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Posted: 3/15/2024 6:55:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By markhateen: No but I knew a girl who dated one briefly. One day she went on about how sweet her new boyfriend was and how they were going to spend a weekend together in his parents beautiful house etc. etc. A few days passed and the cops showed up at her work and arrested her on the spot. The guy had broken into a house, killed the homeowner, chopped him up and put him in a closet downstairs, removed pictures etc., then had his new girlfriend over for dinner, drinks, and coitus. She was cleared of wrong doing, but never was the same after that. Fucking weirdos out there for sure. Must have got the idea from Hey Arnold! |
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Posted: 3/15/2024 7:43:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By osprey21: Barry Hunwick and Oba Chandler. Hunwick was a nice guy, until he wasn't - Chandler was a full time weirdo. |
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Posted: 3/15/2024 8:19:30 PM EDT
[#5]
Derrick Todd Lee was a customer when I worked in Baton Rouge.
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USA
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Posted: 3/15/2024 8:25:47 PM EDT
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Kid I went to school with killed his dad or step dad a few years back. Claimed self defense. Not sure the outcome. I Work with a guy who's dad murdered a family and was put to death in VA years ago. Never put the two together until someone mentioned who his dad was.
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USA
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Posted: 3/15/2024 8:27:43 PM EDT
[#7]
Oh I volunteered on EMS with Nidal Hassan when I was a teenager. He lived about 4 houses up from me. He was going to VA Tech at the time.
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Posted: 3/15/2024 8:36:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: pale_pony]
[#8]
Had a friend back in college, his little brother was a small time drug dealer and had a customer who owed him some money
He started talking trash on his customer...he was gonna kick his ass, yada-yada-gimme-my-money Customer heard about it...caught up to him, laughed in his face, said "here I am, so kick my ass!" dealer took a swing at the customer and the customer beat the ever-loving-shit out of dealer. He actually ended up in the hospital over the beating he got ...about a month later, friend's little brother is out of the hospital, still looks beat up pretty badly and sees the guy who beat him at another friends house. ...walks right up to him, the guy who beat him made some snarky comment about "so you came back for more?" laughs in his face, in front of all their other friends there Friend's little brother didn't say a word. He just smiled and pulled a .38 revolver out of his pocket and shot the guy right between the eyes so close the stippling blew one of his eyes out of the socket. he had half a word out of his mouth when his ass hit the ground deader than a door nail Friend's little brother didn't run, told the rest of them they might want to leave because the cops would be there soon..."taken into custody without incident", and did a solid 20-year sentence, but I saw him at another friend's funeral a couple of years ago. He was a free man, always kind of quiet and still is I wouldn't cross the fellow, myself |
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AR, USA
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Posted: 3/15/2024 8:42:35 PM EDT
[#9]
Two or 3 when I was foreman of a trenching crew in my 20s. A lot of guys on that crew were on probation. A couple off the top of my head were out for manslaugter. Black guys around here don't get much time for murder, especially if they kill another black. The one I'm thinking of cut another guys throat in a card game. 6 years. He was actually a good worker and a fairly good guy to be around. Better than most of them.
The phrase "have a plan to kill the people you meet" is hyperbole but not by much when you have a crew of blacks and mexes. |
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Posted: 3/15/2024 9:26:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PunisherDude06: What? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PunisherDude06: What? Originally Posted By gribble: A couple. Former step cousin killed a cop. Total POS, drugs, b&e, you name it. Wife's aunt married a guy and 10 years later the FBI showed up. They got a dna sample from his utensils at Denny's. Turns out years before they meet the guy killed and dismembered a produce and his body bars all across the county. Guy a great bass out of it for helping the aunt sell of his collection. Yeah, I always thought it was Boomhauer who was hard to follow. |
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Posted: 3/15/2024 9:26:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PunisherDude06: What? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PunisherDude06: What? Originally Posted By gribble: A couple. Former step cousin killed a cop. Total POS, drugs, b&e, you name it. Wife's aunt married a guy and 10 years later the FBI showed up. They got a dna sample from his utensils at Denny's. Turns out years before they meet the guy killed and dismembered a produce and his body bars all across the county. Guy a great bass out of it for helping the aunt sell of his collection. Yeah, I always thought it was Boomhauer who was hard to follow. |
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Posted: 3/15/2024 9:48:15 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Sacrosanct-Potato: First 10 years of my marriage, we lived next to a couple that had two sons and a daughter. The oldest son was very quiet and polite. The quiet son mowed our lawn when we were in the hospital delivering kids each time. He was always very respectful and I enjoyed the brief conversations we had. Well mannered, well kept, never any problems. His parents got divorced and it was ugly. His mom started getting caught up on all the sport banging she felt she had missed out on and moved some beefcake in pretty quickly. The quiet son went on to graduate from high school, stay at home and graduate from a local college in social work, bought a sporty little car, got a job working for Adult Protective Services as a case worker, got married to some girl he met in college, and moved out. We moved too. The quiet son and his wife quickly had two kids, then she decided they needed to get a divorce. The quiet son went to the sister of his wife, who was baby-sitting his two young children, shot both children to death, shot and killed the sister in law, and then shot himself to death. Aside from women I have known that confessed to abortions, and people that I have known that committed suicide, thats the only person I think I have ever know that straight up murdered anyone. I have to say that of all the crazy people I have ever met in my life, I dont think I would have ever expected that the quiet son would have been anywhere near the top of the list of candidates that I would have thought anything like this would have happened. I guess the message is, you never really truly know what darkness lurks in a mans heart When I got back from the army, I found out he was doing life for kidnap and murder. I wasn't even a little bit surprised. |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 3/15/2024 10:09:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: jukk0u]
[#13]
I went to high school with George Russell. You can google him. A book or two has been written about him, so I won't go to lengths to describe him. Mercer Island boy/man (an affluent community in WA) Became a serial killer, stabbing his victims hundreds of times and posing their bodies in lewd positions where he dumped them.
A very charming (when he wasn't stabbing people) and seemingly intelligent guy. I remember late one night at a keg party in the woods... standing around a camp fire... out of a lull in the conversation he remarked: "You know... at night... you can see into a lighted house better than the occupants can see out..." I thought: WTF? |
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Posted: 3/15/2024 11:40:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Saker13]
[#14]
I met this guy many years ago.
He was an abuser back then. I didn't see it and was too young to understand, |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 3/16/2024 12:08:27 AM EDT
[#15]
I have known a couple.
Used to walk home from elementary school along the same route with a quiet kid who seemed like a nice kid, we talked a bit but weren’t really “friends”. Not long later, his dad and grandfather were arrested and convicted for kidnapping hitchhikers and using them as slaves on the family ranch. One and possibly more of the hitchhikers were murdered and burned: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Slave_Ranch My first job was working with my brother in law. One of my BIL’s friends sometimes worked with us. He was an old school biker and was associated with the Banditos motorcycle gang. I knew he had spent time in prison, but did not know more about it. Years later this guy went back to the prison in Texarkana for weapons charges. He died a few years later of cancer. I mentioned him to a good friend after he died. My friend said “shit, you knew Pinto? My dad was the one that arrested him after he wrapped that guy in barbed wire and threw him off the bridge in Galveston.” That was a bit of a shock. |
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ISR
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Posted: 3/16/2024 12:10:32 AM EDT
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One of the neighbors in my old neighborhood had a BIL that beat a rival biker to death with a shovel in front of his house in (I believe) Ogden UT. I drank with him a few times when he would visit his wife’s family in Idaho with and I gave him a canteen cup since he was admiring mine and he had been a Marine in his youth before getting in trouble. He seemed ok to me.
I had a co-worker shoot his wife twice in the brain housing group and then shot himself. They were facing multiple drug and child pornography charges (apparently involving his own kids) that the wife was selling on the dark web for drug money. |
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SC, USA
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Posted: 3/16/2024 9:21:13 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/16/2024 9:34:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SoundStorm: I dated THIS guys cousin in High School. Murdered an infant, escaped from the local jail then fled to Mexico. Local Police Chief used to be FBI and he took a team down there and helped the Mexican whom-evers catch him. He got off easy with lethal injection. Final Meal: Three large hamburgers, two orders of fries, an order of jumbo shrimp, four mini pecan pies and a large cherry cola. Damn... he wanted to go out stuffed to the gills. |
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Posted: 3/16/2024 9:58:32 AM EDT
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No, but there was a serial killer that lived two blocks from me.
Of course, I had no idea who he was until he was arrested, and when I saw the address I was like  This pos would abduct women, rape and kill them, then dump their bodies just a couple of miles from where he lived. He was in his thirties and lived with his mother. |
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Posted: 3/16/2024 11:39:51 AM EDT
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Yeah. A guy I met in 8th grade. We hung out together, ran with the same little bullshit gang, got in trouble, etc.. We got arrested together after a few months and had to stay away from each other outside of school, which probably saved me from a lot more problems down the road. He had a crazy Manson-like personality and ability with people, but he wanted to be an outlaw too much for his own good, so it never got him very far. He stole his grandfather's truck and shotgun and cut off an ankle monitor to go on a brief crime spree, and very nearly got killed by the police trying to run a roadblock.
Had he not gotten into hard drugs, he probably would have pulled off some kind of Manson shit, but he ended up in the same trailer park we grew up in, living with a couple who felt sorry for him. I don't know exactly what happened but he either killed the husband(who was disabled) and then set the house on fire or just set the house on fire and let the guy burn alive. Either way, he's doing life now. I'd be genuinely amazed if that was the only person he killed. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 3/16/2024 11:46:06 AM EDT
[#21]
Unbelievable
Never thought this thread would go 9 pages |
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Posted: 3/16/2024 11:49:24 AM EDT
[#22]
Two guys I worked with are doing life for killing two people while acting as "bounty hunters".
I think it was more of a rip crew, but who knows. Was national news in the mid 90s. |
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Posted: 3/16/2024 12:29:43 PM EDT
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A guy I served with in OIF 1 bludgeoned someone to death in the barracks a year or two later. It was his upstairs neighbor and he was mad the guy was playing music loud.
My wife knows a lot because she worked both prosecution and defense when she was an Army JAG. |
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USA
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Posted: 3/16/2024 4:37:44 PM EDT
[#24]
Yes. This guy worked across the hall from me
https://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/story/news/crime/2018/07/08/three-dead-home-set-ablaze-elmore-murder-suicide/766295002/ This woman went to my church after she was arrested. She ran an unlicensed day care and overdosed an infant with Benadryl trying to make him sleep https://www.wvtm13.com/article/alabama-mother-and-daughter-charged-in-infants-death-at-their-child-care-center/27073585 She hung herself in the county jail after having her bond revoked |
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Posted: 3/16/2024 5:09:23 PM EDT
[#25]
2 people that I know of.
I previously worked with a guy who shot and killed his wife and best friend. It happened before I knew him and I can't find any news about it so all I know is what I heard from others. There were numerous, vastly different accounts so I'm not sure exactly what happened other than... My co-worker came home to find his best friends truck in his driveway. A fight ensued inside the house. A pistol was retrieved from his nightstand and he shot 1 round with the bullet passing through both his wife and her lover, killing them both. He was arrested and spent over a year in jail waiting for his trial. He was acquitted and again, I heard different stories on why. I believe mishandled evidence was the leading contributor but I'm not 100%. As the resident "gun expert" at that work place, a lot of people would come to me and talk about firearms. I was working with him one evening and he was showing me a new firearm he purchased and he says to me: "You know how you don't go to prison after killing someone? You leave no witnesses." It was... awkward. The other person was the brother of a coworker. I met him numerous times but never hanged out with him. He worked at the family tow business and decided to go out on Christmas Eve to look for illegally parked vehicles. He hooked a car when the owner came out and began arguing. The car owner lifted up his clothing to reveal a pistol. My friends brother went back to his tow truck, retrieved a pistol and shot the car owner. Apparently he put several rounds into the guy after he was down on the ground. He was sentenced to 26 years for voluntary manslaughter. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 3/16/2024 5:11:20 PM EDT
[#26]
yup ..worked with a guy about 10 years ago who ended up kidnapping and murdering a girl. No one was that surprised when we found out about it
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USA
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Posted: 3/16/2024 5:14:53 PM EDT
[#27]
No. But I have what is maybe a good story. Friend of the family worked with a guy that was having serious marital problems. They agreed to go on some sort of second honeymoon to Mexico and see if they could rekindle the flame. The wife drowned while they were swimming and the body was never recovered. My friend said he never saw the guy happier than when he came back home.
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IA, USA
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Posted: 3/16/2024 5:30:32 PM EDT
[#28]
about 10 yrs out of high school on a Saturday morning I ran into someone from my class that I hadn't seen since school at a mall. Shook his hand, met his pretty, young wife, they had a fairly newborn infant in stroller. Talked for a few minutes.
Watching the local news two days later on Monday. On Saturday evening that guy was out drinking with another guy I knew from high school, and they killed a whore. |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 3/16/2024 9:25:51 PM EDT
[#29]
Worked with a guy who grew up around 8 mile in Detroit
Gang tried to rob him and his brother. His brother ended up killing one of them stabbing the gang banger with his own knife The gang then shows up at coworkers house for revenge Coworker ends up killing another gang member I think by choking him out Both charges no billed by city prosecutor Coworker was a tough dude very nice and polite though Ended up getting out of his neighborhood and got an education Worked in IT with me |
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Posted: 3/16/2024 10:22:49 PM EDT
[#30]
I knew a guy that put a shotgun under the chin of his best friend who was also my friend. Pulled the trigger and got six months for involuntary manslaughter. The kid was seventeen.
I also know a girl now an older woman that beat the shit out of the night stalker on broadway in SF. His ass kicking was witnessed by about 20 people and the story is credible. |
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Posted: 3/16/2024 11:56:44 PM EDT
[#31]
Several.
The eyes man, they always give them away. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 3/17/2024 1:35:56 AM EDT
[#32]
Knew a guy who ran over his wife at Walmart parking lot and then blasted himself in the car. Strange deal. She had left him and divorced him. At the service the mormon clergy, guest speakers, and then everyone was talking about how this was a fortunate thing because they were back together now, which seemed really fucking weird.
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FL, USA
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Posted: 3/17/2024 1:41:57 AM EDT
[#33]
Unfortunately, yes.
One of my childhood friends dad went and shoot his neighbor a couple of years ago. I have not heard if his trial went forward. He had some metal issues that became prevalent with his advanced old age. Not sure if he is still alive and in prison. On a brighter note. I got to meet Richard Marcinko on his book signing tour for Task Force Blue novel release. The nicest killer I have ever met and he had his CQC7 pocket knife on him. |
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Posted: 3/17/2024 1:43:49 AM EDT
[#34]
Yes, both were guys I went to school with.
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USA
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Posted: 3/17/2024 2:09:32 AM EDT
[#35]
Went to high school with a guy that was a year ahead of me. He was sort of a ladies man mostly because he was quick witted/quick with a joke & people liked him. About a year or two after high school, he spent 6 months in jail for beating a girl over the head with a tire iron because she wouldn't submit...he left her out on a county road that night & threatened to kill her if she talked. About 4 years after that, he was finally arrested for murder of a gal from a neighboring town and had stuffed her body in an old abandoned water wagon. It took a long while to connect him with that murder & he never admitted to it & all the DA had was a lot of circumstantial evidence. The fucker was able to plea to a lesser charge of illegal disposal of a body and served a token minimum few years. Oh yeah, when he was arrested he was in seminary school....go figure.
At about the same time as the above, when I was working as an ironworker/construction, I was paired up with a guy that just blew into town from Texas. Turns out he was just released after doing 15yrs for beating a guy to death following a bar argument. Texas said he needed to leave the state and don't ever come back...so here he was fresh off the bus with just a suitcase and paired with naive me. We got along good & I'd see him from time to time on other jobs over the years and he married & had kids and you wouldn't know his background as most didn't. He was decent & upfront with me from the minute we met & came off mostly as a badass to others. I just never figured that out. |
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Posted: 3/18/2024 9:03:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ddollen: An acquaintance of mine got into a domestic with his wife. Shot and killed her and then turned the gun on himself. He left 2 teenage sons behind. Tragic loss of life. Same situation for me. I was reading all the responses till I got to this one not thinking I knew a murderer. In my case the guy was an IDPA shooter, master level, Well known. Shot with him all the time. He did a bunch of gunsmith work for my Dad. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 3/20/2024 11:44:19 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Blackbeard28: It's always the quiet ones. A guy I went to HS with murdered a bunch of family members on Thanksgiving day. He was always quiet and nice in HS. This happened 18 years after graduating. Saw his face and name in the news and I was That was a pretty messed up situation I recall. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 3/20/2024 11:48:12 AM EDT
[#38]
Went out of town for work. Had to connect with another worker who was working with me on the project. They had rented a house to stay in while we worked. First night at dinner, he casually says he had spent time in the pen and was lucky to get this job. Me being curious asked why. It was only for murdering three people who had wronged him, … but he’s changed a lot now. Funny thing is we got the job done and never an issue with the guy, although slept with my gun under pillow for the first few days
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SD, USA
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Posted: 3/20/2024 1:29:41 PM EDT
[#39]
I've been doing a little business with a guy that was recently released from the pen for murder. I knew the, "victim." He was a real piece of shit. I'd guess he had it coming.
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Posted: 4/19/2024 12:24:52 PM EDT
[#40]
 When A Teen Killer Realizes She's Been Caught I worked with this girl's grandfather/guardian. Crazy situation. He was actually just a normal dude, trying to do what was best for his family. Obviously their life was pretty much ruined by this. |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 1:09:42 PM EDT
[#41]
Dated a girl back home who's little brother killed another gay guy with a railroad spike.
I've sat across the table from a few at work |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 1:36:05 PM EDT
[#42]
Work related I have known quite a few.
My father’s best friends ex-wife killed her own mother and buried her in the back yard. She was living with us at the time. I was like 8 years old. Didn’t really know her because I was a kid. When my parents tell the story it’s like some made for Tv lifetime movie or something. She died in prison a couple years after her guilty plea. |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 9:52:55 PM EDT
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CA, USA
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Posted: 4/19/2024 9:55:22 PM EDT
[#44]
I met OJ in '99, does that count?
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Posted: 4/19/2024 10:13:46 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OLO2: I might have met Jeffrey Dahmer when I was a teen, but I haven't verified it. Weird coincidences involved. A guy I knew when we were kids and later served in the Army with was guarding him the day he was killed. |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 10:16:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: cyclone]
[#46]
I know 3...............two are in prison for life, one is out now.
Janice Buttram was in foster care and stayed with us for awhile when I was a kid until she decided to split in the middle of the night |
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USA
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Posted: 4/19/2024 10:23:31 PM EDT
[#47]
Yes indeed I do and I owe my life to him. If it wasn't for him I may not have possibly turned my life around. He told me in a holding cell this jail life wasn't for me. I listened. He had chopped up his gf because she rejected him and refused to acknowledge he was a human. Sitting on the floor he said he had the most incredible conversation with her head. The first time in their relationship she shut up and listened.
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Posted: 4/19/2024 10:23:34 PM EDT
[#48]
I had a guy on one of the utility construction crews that I used to supervise. Nice guy, very polite, hard worker, always on time, always wore his PPE. A supervisors dream employee.
One night he went out drinking with some friends and ended up getting into a fight with some guys. He went out to his truck, got a gun and shot two of them. Killed one of them. |
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Posted: 4/19/2024 10:31:28 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 9divdoc: A guy I knew when we were kids and later served in the Army with was guarding him the day he was killed. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 9divdoc: Originally Posted By OLO2: I might have met Jeffrey Dahmer when I was a teen, but I haven't verified it. Weird coincidences involved. A guy I knew when we were kids and later served in the Army with was guarding him the day he was killed. Does that mean he simply saw him that day or, perhaps, allegedly, allowed someone to takeout the trash? |
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AL, USA
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Posted: 4/19/2024 10:35:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: memsu]
[#50]
Not really a murderer because he didn't try it himself.
Knew him since elementary school. Mom got cancer and died when he was in HS and ever since then he kinda got off the rails. Dude was legit crazy when he drank. He eventually married another girl that went to our HS. Well he decided to hire someone to kill her and her children. Turns out the guy he hired was undercover police. He's in prison now. Got 20 year sentence 9 years ago. |
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