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Posted: 3/27/2024 8:07:57 PM EDT
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Nice shooting OP.
Also, nice guns. Can you add a few details about the builds? |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 3/27/2024 9:07:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By nhsport: Nice shooting! What kind of penetration are you getting? I ask because those bullets with such full expansion appear to be perfect and very desirable for self protection on two legged critters but on big hogs (out in the woods/swamps) I think I myself might desire more penetration along the lines of increasing the chance of scoring both entrance and exit wounds. Maybe thinking too much , hard to argue with actual results. Average penetration looked to be about 16" that stopped the bullets inside the hide on the far side. 5 of 8 shots went through-&-through, 2 recovered just inside the hide on far side, and 1 made it through but literally fell out of the skin and dropped to the ground in the blood trail. If you look at that cross section, it's really a wonder any of them could keep sawing their way through tissue once they expand, but those are some sharp teeth when spinning through flesh. They leave a heck of a wound channel. I've actually shot quite a few big hogs with HSTs, but if they're big boars or nasty sows, I don't touch 'em to find my bullets. There is a fine line I place on what I'll dress out, so I don't always have ballistic results. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 3/27/2024 9:37:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: RedAngus]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Scott_S: Nice shooting OP. Also, nice guns. Can you add a few details about the builds? Both are nearly identical, except the frames (railed vs. normal- I needed an End o' the World 1911 and another (like a new hole in my head) for EDC). Nighthawk oversized slides, frames, and barrels; EGW oversized slide releases, firing pin stops, ejectors, extractors, pin sets, links, angle-bore carry bushings, beavertail grip safeties and long recoil spring plugs; Ed Brown extended slim thumb safety, extended checkered magazine release; Harrison Design hammer, strut, sear and disconnect; Wilson Combat flat wire recoil spring and GI guide rods; All other springs from Wolff Gunsprings; Nighthawk match trigger with adjustable pre- and overtravel on railed model, C&S Videcki trigger w/adjustable overtravel on non-railed; Stan Chen Gen2 magwells; Heinie Lo-Pro ledge rear, and SDM gold bead inserts put into Novak front sights. Desert Ironwood grips from Bob @ Cherokee Grips (great guy!) and canvas Micarta from VZ. I mostly use CMC 8 & 10-rd. power mags, Wilson 47Ds, Ed Brown 8 round, and Tripp mags., in that order, and test function with all of those plus any other crappy mags I own. It usually takes me about 65-75 hours to build/fit/blend a 1911. But I go slow and try to fit my parts precisely and tightly, everything by hand. @Scott_S |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 9:50:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Muad: Glock boyz, "Did you only shoot three because your 1911 jammed?"...  Nice work OP, and beautiful pistols. I carry HSTs in my 1911s also. I'm curious if 124gr or 147gr 9mm HSTs would have performed as well? I'm a .45ACP guy, but the 9mm crowd keeps telling me it's mo betta and I don't need a double stack 1911/2011 in .45 when I can get one in 9mm...  Attached File |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 9:53:31 PM EDT
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Noooooooooo you can't use a really old proven cartridge nooooooo
9mm may be older but that doesn't matter nooooooooo |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 9:57:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HoodyHoo21: I think it would be a pretty safe bet to say that had the OP made identical hits on these hogs with a 9mm chambered 1911, he'd still have 3 dead hogs. It's not my personnel observation, but people on this forum that have shot animals with service caliber handguns generally share the consensus that the bigger calibers work better. |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 9:59:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RTX: Big boars have a shoulder plate or shield that is essentially hog kevlar. It's from their natural evolutionary process with the purpose to shield them when fighting other big hogs. Some of them get really, really thick on those big old boys - like one to two inches thick. That's why an ear shot is always best on a big hog. This is why European hog hunters use the 9.3x62 |
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AR, USA
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Posted: 3/27/2024 10:06:18 PM EDT
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CO, USA
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Posted: 3/27/2024 10:13:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Efl15: .45 ACP is the ideal pistol cartridge. H |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 3/27/2024 10:18:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: RedAngus]
[#10]
  I shot these (at least the one that needed shooting) two bucks that were locked up with a 147 gr. HST. The live one had been locked up and dragging the dead one so long that there was nothing but the head and neck left. He was bouncing and bucking all over the place. I couldn’t get closer than about 75-80 yards, put two in his chest with no effect, and finally lucked into a neck shot that dropped him. I probably chased him 100 yards after the chest shots before I could get another shot at him. If not for the neck shot I wouldn’t have caught up with him. None of the 9mm 147 gr. bullets Edit: None of the bullets were recovered, all had exited. And I shot 11 times with only 3 hits  |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 10:27:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RedAngus: https://i.imgur.com/gaMD31r.jpg https://i.imgur.com/tr4GQkQ.jpg I shot these (at least the one that needed shooting) two bucks that were locked up with a 147 gr. HST. The live one had been locked up and dragging the dead one so long that there was nothing but the head and neck left. He was bouncing and bucking all over the place. I couldn’t get closer than about 75-80 yards, put two in his chest with no effect, and finally lucked into a neck shot that dropped him. I probably chased him 100 yards after the chest shots before I could get another shot at him. If not for the neck shot I wouldn’t have caught up with him. None of the 9mm 147 gr. bullets exited. Holy shit 
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Posted: 3/27/2024 11:03:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RedAngus: No jams. 9 shots and 8 hits, all but the first shot were on running hogs. 3 KIA. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RedAngus: Originally Posted By nmxdavenn: Yea but how many times did it jam before you got one into him? No jams. 9 shots and 8 hits, all but the first shot were on running hogs. 3 KIA. That's good shooting. |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 11:52:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RedAngus: https://i.imgur.com/gaMD31r.jpg https://i.imgur.com/tr4GQkQ.jpg I shot these (at least the one that needed shooting) two bucks that were locked up with a 147 gr. HST. The live one had been locked up and dragging the dead one so long that there was nothing but the head and neck left. He was bouncing and bucking all over the place. I couldn’t get closer than about 75-80 yards, put two in his chest with no effect, and finally lucked into a neck shot that dropped him. I probably chased him 100 yards after the chest shots before I could get another shot at him. If not for the neck shot I wouldn’t have caught up with him. None of the 9mm 147 gr. bullets exited. If recovered, did those 147s expand at that distance? |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 3/28/2024 12:10:30 AM EDT
[Last Edit: RedAngus]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fordkicksass: If recovered, did those 147s expand at that distance? I need to edit my previous post to say |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 12:12:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pair_of_ACES: Beautiful. Doing the Lord’s work. I carry an HK USP Match with HSTs as a backup when hog hunting. It’s a reliable killer, and the compensator acts as a stand-off device in case of a contact shot. I’ve been charged multiple times in close brush. https://i.ibb.co/bmzh9ny/EF910901-E03-B-4-EDA-8-E3-D-7-A71-A534-A2-A6.jpg Well there's something I didn't know I needed.  Sick. |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 1:22:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By nhsport: Nice shooting! What kind of penetration are you getting? I ask because those bullets with such full expansion appear to be perfect and very desirable for self protection on two legged critters but on big hogs (out in the woods/swamps) I think I myself might desire more penetration along the lines of increasing the chance of scoring both entrance and exit wounds. Maybe thinking too much , hard to argue with actual results. Guy kills 3 running hogs with carry pistol. Arf GD: "Have you thought about switching to something else that I like?" |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 1:33:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FluffyTheCat: This is why European hog hunters use the 9.3x62 Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FluffyTheCat: Originally Posted By RTX: Big boars have a shoulder plate or shield that is essentially hog kevlar. It's from their natural evolutionary process with the purpose to shield them when fighting other big hogs. Some of them get really, really thick on those big old boys - like one to two inches thick. That's why an ear shot is always best on a big hog. This is why European hog hunters use the 9.3x62 That "sheild" is mostly people's excuse for missing. |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 1:35:17 AM EDT
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Nice work!
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Posted: 3/28/2024 6:04:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 30calTBLkid: Guy kills 3 running hogs with carry pistol. Arf GD: "Have you thought about switching to something else that I like?" 
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Posted: 3/28/2024 6:21:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RedAngus: https://i.imgur.com/gaMD31r.jpg https://i.imgur.com/tr4GQkQ.jpg I shot these (at least the one that needed shooting) two bucks that were locked up with a 147 gr. HST. The live one had been locked up and dragging the dead one so long that there was nothing but the head and neck left. He was bouncing and bucking all over the place. I couldn’t get closer than about 75-80 yards, put two in his chest with no effect, and finally lucked into a neck shot that dropped him. I probably chased him 100 yards after the chest shots before I could get another shot at him. If not for the neck shot I wouldn’t have caught up with him. None of the 9mm 147 gr. bullets Edit: None of the bullets were recovered, all had exited. And I shot 11 times with only 3 hits Wow, that's a pretty unusual find. Most of us will never see something like that. Would have made a great mount if you could find somebody to do it and the dead one wasn't too bad. Were you able to get it mounted? |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 9:12:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RTX: Wow, that's a pretty unusual find. Most of us will never see something like that. Would have made a great mount if you could find somebody to do it and the dead one wasn't too bad. Were you able to get it mounted? A friend of mine did a European mount for me. He had to boil them together b/c they were locked up so tight, even with several broken tines. It looks pretty good. The dead one was so torn up and what little bit of hide left on him was pretty ragged, that I really couldn't salvage it. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 3/28/2024 9:19:57 AM EDT
[#22]
Nice Pistols. Nice knife. All function. No useless bling. Even better when you build your own.
Thanks for Sharing |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 9:33:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SpacemanSpiff: The reality is it is one of the worst of not the worst.  Attached File |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 9:54:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RedAngus: A friend of mine did a European mount for me. He had to boil them together b/c they were locked up so tight, even with several broken tines. It looks pretty good. The dead one was so torn up and what little bit of hide left on him was pretty ragged, that I really couldn't salvage it. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 3/28/2024 10:18:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DevilDog0402: @RedAngus - pics of the mount? I'll take some this evening and post 'em here. |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 10:58:38 AM EDT
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Nice work !!
My carry 1911 is loaded up with 230 +P HSTs. Good to see some "real world" terminal ballistics. |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 11:58:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RedAngus: I'll take some this evening and post 'em here. 
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Posted: 3/28/2024 9:23:43 PM EDT
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   @DevilDog0402 It's nothing really special but my friend did a great job on it. They're still locked together as tight as they were when I shot him. |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 9:28:44 PM EDT
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Legit. Damn fine work OP
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Posted: 3/28/2024 10:06:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sabre_kc: Legit. Damn fine work OP Thank you, Sir.
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Posted: 3/29/2024 2:24:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RedAngus: https://i.imgur.com/DpeCiZP.jpg https://i.imgur.com/E3noowL.jpg https://i.imgur.com/zK42VYp.jpg @DevilDog0402 It's nothing really special but my friend did a great job on it. They're still locked together as tight as they were when I shot him. That's awesome. |
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Posted: 3/29/2024 3:26:34 AM EDT
[Last Edit: AKFF]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RedAngus: https://i.imgur.com/DpeCiZP.jpg https://i.imgur.com/E3noowL.jpg https://i.imgur.com/zK42VYp.jpg @DevilDog0402 It's nothing really special but my friend did a great job on it. They're still locked together as tight as they were when I shot him. Holy shit!! You may have something that nobody else has. Absolutely awesome! |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 3/29/2024 4:56:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RedAngus: https://i.imgur.com/DpeCiZP.jpg https://i.imgur.com/E3noowL.jpg https://i.imgur.com/zK42VYp.jpg @DevilDog0402 It's nothing really special but my friend did a great job on it. They're still locked together as tight as they were when I shot him. -very impressive & unique. |
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Posted: 3/29/2024 6:53:56 AM EDT
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That's a neat lockup mount. Thanks for sharing those pics, Opie.
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Posted: 3/29/2024 7:39:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RedAngus: https://i.imgur.com/DpeCiZP.jpg https://i.imgur.com/E3noowL.jpg https://i.imgur.com/zK42VYp.jpg @DevilDog0402 It's nothing really special but my friend did a great job on it. They're still locked together as tight as they were when I shot him. Thanks for posting it. |
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Posted: 3/29/2024 8:00:41 AM EDT
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Two world wars and three feral hogs.
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Posted: 3/29/2024 8:31:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RedAngus: https://i.imgur.com/DpeCiZP.jpg https://i.imgur.com/E3noowL.jpg https://i.imgur.com/zK42VYp.jpg @DevilDog0402 It's nothing really special but my friend did a great job on it. They're still locked together as tight as they were when I shot him. That is one of the coolest mounts I've seen. |
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Posted: 3/29/2024 8:32:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AKFF: Holy shit!! You may have something that nobody else has. Absolutely awesome! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AKFF: Originally Posted By RedAngus: https://i.imgur.com/DpeCiZP.jpg https://i.imgur.com/E3noowL.jpg https://i.imgur.com/zK42VYp.jpg @DevilDog0402 It's nothing really special but my friend did a great job on it. They're still locked together as tight as they were when I shot him. Holy shit!! You may have something that nobody else has. Absolutely awesome! It's actually pretty common. Lots of guys have them. This one looks good. |
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Posted: 3/29/2024 8:35:50 AM EDT
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Yeah, it's cool, but I think some of us were hoping to get a glimpse of his trophy mount from safari at the Chicken.
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Posted: 3/29/2024 9:39:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RTX: Yeah, it's cool, but I think some of us were hoping to get a glimpse of his trophy mount from safari at the Chicken. Ahem...What happened at the Chicken stays at the Chicken! 
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Posted: 3/30/2024 2:29:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By piperpa24: Two world wars and three feral hogs.  Well done. |
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Posted: 3/30/2024 2:30:37 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/30/2024 2:44:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SpacemanSpiff: The reality is it is one of the worst of not the worst. "Worst".... *doesn't know much about the caliber |
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Posted: 3/30/2024 2:45:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SpacemanSpiff: You'll have that with .45 ACP. It's slow. 10mm hard cast or solid copper is the way to go. Because fast 45 has never been invented before. |
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Posted: 3/30/2024 7:59:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RedAngus: https://i.imgur.com/gaMD31r.jpg https://i.imgur.com/tr4GQkQ.jpg I shot these (at least the one that needed shooting) two bucks that were locked up with a 147 gr. HST. The live one had been locked up and dragging the dead one so long that there was nothing but the head and neck left. He was bouncing and bucking all over the place. I couldn’t get closer than about 75-80 yards, put two in his chest with no effect, and finally lucked into a neck shot that dropped him. I probably chased him 100 yards after the chest shots before I could get another shot at him. If not for the neck shot I wouldn’t have caught up with him. None of the 9mm 147 gr. bullets Edit: None of the bullets were recovered, all had exited. And I shot 11 times with only 3 hits Thanks for sharing the details! I realize this is anecdotal, but what barrel length on the 9mm that launched those 147 gr HSTs? 147 gr and 230 gr HSTs are my go-to defensive pistol carry rounds. Fortunately, I've never had to actually use them for their intended purpose. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 3/30/2024 9:54:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fordkicksass: Thanks for sharing the details! I realize this is anecdotal, but what barrel length on the 9mm that launched those 147 gr HSTs? 147 gr and 230 gr HSTs are my go-to defensive pistol carry rounds. Fortunately, I've never had to actually use them for their intended purpose. 5" barrel, 147 gr. HST but these were +P. I really don't think it matters (+P or standard pressure) but whatever I have the most of and have standardized on, that has performed well, I try to buy more of when available. After looking at all the defensive ammo I have purchased over the last 35 years (and I have been looking at it a' plenty, as I have had to move it all due to a remodel going on and I'm gonna have to move it all back soon), I realize that anything in HST or Buffalo Bore has performed well. Speer Gold Dots nearly as well. Rem. Golden Sabre not nearly as well. A plethora of other stuff either hasn't performed as well, doesn't shoot to the same POI as the others, or isn't as consistently available as the others, meaning I can't just load it and trust it or shoot it and plan on replacing it. This includes Cor-Bon and a number of other loads that are hotter or less available, so every time I use some, I have to replace it with something different and untrusted. Long story short, I have settled on 230 gr. HST in .45, and 147 gr. +P HST in 9mm. Although I have no issue with other weights/pressures in either caliber, it's just what I can most easily replace and trust/replicate. A rattler that I shot with 230s...although it wasn't a penetration challenge, at least i know where they're hitting.  @fordkicksass |
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Posted: 3/31/2024 10:10:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AeroEngineer: Good shooting! We will need more pics of the 1911. This. Also a few of the wife just 'cause this is GD. |
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Posted: 3/31/2024 11:27:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fingas: I've shot several hogs with 147gr HSTs as well as the 230gr HSTs. They will both get the job done but the 230s seem to be more effective at stopping the hog in its tracks. I, like the OP enjoy shooting the hogs with the 1911 I built. It's the middle one in the pic below ( the other two I built are the wife's 9mm commander and my long slide 10mm built on a frame with my wedding date as a serial number.) https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/206338/IMG_1404_jpeg-3171346.JPG Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fingas: Originally Posted By Muad: Glock boyz, "Did you only shoot three because your 1911 jammed?"... Nice work OP, and beautiful pistols. I carry HSTs in my 1911s also. I'm curious if 124gr or 147gr 9mm HSTs would have performed as well? I'm a .45ACP guy, but the 9mm crowd keeps telling me it's mo betta and I don't need a double stack 1911/2011 in .45 when I can get one in 9mm... https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/206338/IMG_1404_jpeg-3171346.JPG Appreciate the feedback, and beautiful pistols! |
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Posted: 3/31/2024 11:30:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RedAngus: https://i.imgur.com/gaMD31r.jpg https://i.imgur.com/tr4GQkQ.jpg I shot these (at least the one that needed shooting) two bucks that were locked up with a 147 gr. HST. The live one had been locked up and dragging the dead one so long that there was nothing but the head and neck left. He was bouncing and bucking all over the place. I couldn't get closer than about 75-80 yards, put two in his chest with no effect, and finally lucked into a neck shot that dropped him. I probably chased him 100 yards after the chest shots before I could get another shot at him. If not for the neck shot I wouldn't have caught up with him. None of the 9mm 147 gr. bullets Edit: None of the bullets were recovered, all had exited. And I shot 11 times with only 3 hits That's nuts! You gonna get them mounted? I would. |
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Posted: 3/31/2024 11:32:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RedAngus: https://i.imgur.com/DpeCiZP.jpg https://i.imgur.com/E3noowL.jpg https://i.imgur.com/zK42VYp.jpg @DevilDog0402 It's nothing really special but my friend did a great job on it. They're still locked together as tight as they were when I shot him. Badass!! |
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