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Quoted: Amazing how just a few years ago, such a law would have been decried as tyranny by most members here. Apparently people being free to live and sleep anywhere open to the public is just a little too scary, even for arfcom. We need more laws like this, but we have a little further to fall before we'll have the will to see them through. View Quote |
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Quoted: What are they suppose to do, stay awake 24/7? View Quote IF YOU'RE HOMELESS.... JUST BUY A HOUSE (DUH) |
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Quoted: The world needs ditch diggers. An idiot stick (shovel) doesn’t take much to work it. Those individuals that seriously can’t due grunt work, there are programs for them in almost every state. We seriously need to bring back ‘institutions’ for these people that can’t survive in the regular world. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: The majority are low IQ, mentally ill, and incapable of real work. What you wanna do with those? The world needs ditch diggers. An idiot stick (shovel) doesn’t take much to work it. Those individuals that seriously can’t due grunt work, there are programs for them in almost every state. We seriously need to bring back ‘institutions’ for these people that can’t survive in the regular world. A shovel doesn’t take much work to it? Have you used one much? 35 years as a new construction plumber I’ve racked up some time, and yes, it does take “work to it”, and skill. We hand dig the majority of our undergrounds. As far as giving the homeless a shovel, who’s hiring them? I’m not. Maybe concrete guys, they’re basically homeless anyways. Also “do”. |
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Homeless are just mental, the drugs are a byproduct. Clean them off of drugs and you basically have a retard. Then what? They go to work in IT and write their own check?
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Add this to the list that Alachua County will ignore. And, nothing will be done.
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Quoted: Amazing how just a few years ago, such a law would have been decried as tyranny by most members here. Apparently people being free to live and sleep anywhere open to the public is just a little too scary, even for arfcom. We need more laws like this, but we have a little further to fall before we’ll have the will to see them through. View Quote Yup, while I agree with the need for the law, it is hardly freedom. |
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Quoted: A shovel doesn’t take much work to it? Have you used one much? 35 years as a new construction plumber I’ve racked up some time, and yes, it does take “work to it”, and skill. We hand dig the majority of our undergrounds. As far as giving the homeless a shovel, who’s hiring them? I’m not. Maybe concrete guys, they’re basically homeless anyways. Also “do”. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: The majority are low IQ, mentally ill, and incapable of real work. What you wanna do with those? The world needs ditch diggers. An idiot stick (shovel) doesn’t take much to work it. Those individuals that seriously can’t due grunt work, there are programs for them in almost every state. We seriously need to bring back ‘institutions’ for these people that can’t survive in the regular world. A shovel doesn’t take much work to it? Have you used one much? 35 years as a new construction plumber I’ve racked up some time, and yes, it does take “work to it”, and skill. We hand dig the majority of our undergrounds. As far as giving the homeless a shovel, who’s hiring them? I’m not. Maybe concrete guys, they’re basically homeless anyways. Also “do”. If they can't dig, they can carry shingle bundles. Don't care what they do for employment as long as they're somewhat earning their keep. |
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Quoted: Yeah, guys, these folks are just good, responsible people who want to camp out in a city park and leave it in better shape than they found it. Why are you guys all so mean????? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Amazing how just a few years ago, such a law would have been decried as tyranny by most members here. Apparently people being free to live and sleep anywhere open to the public is just a little too scary, even for arfcom. We need more laws like this, but we have a little further to fall before we’ll have the will to see them through. Yeah, guys, these folks are just good, responsible people who want to camp out in a city park and leave it in better shape than they found it. Why are you guys all so mean????? You guys need to work on reading comprehension. |
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Quoted: The majority are low IQ, mentally ill, and incapable of real work. What you wanna do with those? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Go to shelters that force them to get clean, it's in the link. The majority are low IQ, mentally ill, and incapable of real work. What you wanna do with those? So we should allow them to roam all over , take shits in the open and use drugs on street corners instead of getting them into a shelter, getting a hot meal and shower and possible mental health assistance……you make perfect sense buddy. |
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If you talk with the homeless or housing challenged, among other things is that they are afraid of the shelters, churches, etc because they aren’t safe or the other residents are zombies. Maybe some type of guard or monitors. The rest have serious mental issues that a shelter won’t solve.
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One of the nearby towns just voted that in a couple weeks ago.
I haven't seen their policy or how they're going to enforce it though. |
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Quoted: The majority are low IQ, mentally ill, and incapable of real work. What you wanna do with those? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Go to shelters that force them to get clean, it's in the link. The majority are low IQ, mentally ill, and incapable of real work. What you wanna do with those? How big is your yard? Eventually they will start squatting in yards...... |
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The church and shelter isn’t safe lol. They are typically with the same group of people
Out in the streets who monitors them out there??? Get a guard problem solved, the answer is not to let them roam all over and do whatever they hell they want which is typically some sort of illegal activity. |
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Quoted: If you talk with the homeless or housing challenged, among other things is that they are afraid of the shelters, churches, etc because they aren’t safe or the other residents are zombies. Maybe some type of guard or monitors. The rest have serious mental issues that a shelter won’t solve. View Quote Crazy violent bums need to be institutionalized, and there’s a good chance they won’t appreciate the relocation. So you’ll wind up shooting a few when they resist violently. That’d make life better for everyone, if society ever faced reality. |
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Quoted: Seems to be an oft-repeated story. Either it’s BS or the shelters need better enforcement. Crazy violent bums need to be institutionalized, and there’s a good chance they won’t appreciate the relocation. So you’ll wind up shooting a few when they resist violently. That’d make life better for everyone, if society ever faced reality. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: If you talk with the homeless or housing challenged, among other things is that they are afraid of the shelters, churches, etc because they aren’t safe or the other residents are zombies. Maybe some type of guard or monitors. The rest have serious mental issues that a shelter won’t solve. Crazy violent bums need to be institutionalized, and there’s a good chance they won’t appreciate the relocation. So you’ll wind up shooting a few when they resist violently. That’d make life better for everyone, if society ever faced reality. Shame all those institutions were closed |
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Sounds good except for them now they are going to be housesd in shelters provided by the government and monitored by law enforcement. Let's spend more money on these people. I bet it's an upgrade for them. I guess the days of arrest and harass them until they have had enough and move on or find a job are gone.
In the bill. Homeless individuals are prohibited from camping on city streets, sidewalks, and parks—and instead placed in temporary shelters monitored by law enforcement agencies. |
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Quoted: Seems to be an oft-repeated story. Either it’s BS or the shelters need better enforcement. Crazy violent bums need to be institutionalized, and there’s a good chance they won’t appreciate the relocation. So you’ll wind up shooting a few when they resist violently. That’d make life better for everyone, if society ever faced reality. View Quote |
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Quoted: If you talk with the homeless or housing challenged, among other things is that they are afraid of the shelters, churches, etc because they aren’t safe or the other residents are zombies. Maybe some type of guard or monitors. The rest have serious mental issues that a shelter won’t solve. View Quote That’s what they all say. What they all mean is that they can’t drink and shoot or smoke dope inside. They also can’t take their 3 spare changing props aka their pitties into the shelter. |
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Quoted: Supreme Court said in January it would hear and appeal of a decision from a west coast appellate court that said it's unconstitutional to kick homeless off public property. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna133440 View Quote It is public after all. A much better solution is to make it uncomfortable for them. Throw away their trash, destroy their encampments. |
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Quoted: That was never the problem. Did you work on his shit campaign or something? Because they all seemed just as clueless View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: To think, he was not conservative for a good chunk of this site to be President. That was never the problem. Did you work on his shit campaign or something? Because they all seemed just as clueless The funny thing is that this is not the conservative solution. It is a solution, but not exactly in line with freedom. |
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Quoted: If they can't dig, they can carry shingle bundles. Don't care what they do for employment as long as they're somewhat earning their keep. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: The majority are low IQ, mentally ill, and incapable of real work. What you wanna do with those? The world needs ditch diggers. An idiot stick (shovel) doesn’t take much to work it. Those individuals that seriously can’t due grunt work, there are programs for them in almost every state. We seriously need to bring back ‘institutions’ for these people that can’t survive in the regular world. A shovel doesn’t take much work to it? Have you used one much? 35 years as a new construction plumber I’ve racked up some time, and yes, it does take “work to it”, and skill. We hand dig the majority of our undergrounds. As far as giving the homeless a shovel, who’s hiring them? I’m not. Maybe concrete guys, they’re basically homeless anyways. Also “do”. If they can't dig, they can carry shingle bundles. Don't care what they do for employment as long as they're somewhat earning their keep. They’re unemployable. |
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The Dark Secret Behind Japan's 0% Homelessness Rate |
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Quoted: Add this to the list that Alachua County will ignore. And, nothing will be done. View Quote Alachua county is already a homeless bum mecca, the new law will bring more. The retards running the county will just raise electricity rates and siphon more money from GRU to accommodate them. |
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There is no belief in freedom on ARFCOM anymore. All of you are trading liberty to protect.....what exactly? Are we so stupid that we still resort to "If WE can't control it we should ban it!"?. All we ever do is outlaw things instead of solving the issues. What if they could apply for a $200.00 tax stamp, and in 9 months be allowed to lay down on the bench? Would you be OK with that?
Any corrections officers that want to chime in? Are you ready to work intake? How many leo's just can't wait to log infor their shift now? Since yall don't have enough to do already. Just wait for all the prisoner transports with the windows down and the AC on high. But at least people won't see someone sleeping in front of Starbucks while they support the DNC by purchasing grande fraps latte ice tea. I have not read one post questioning how this may affect veterans. How many who support this wear Gadsden Flag t shirts, or flags on their Ford TRX Tundra? |
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Quoted: They’re unemployable. View Quote Just getting them to eat, bathe, take their meds, prevent them from being violent towards others, not harm themselves, etc., is a full time job when they are admitted to a psych ward. The amount of resources spent on this is astounding. Many of them aren’t viable humans. Without forced intervention, they would be dead shortly. |
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They would not want me in charge. Homelessness would be a felony. You'd be scooped up against your will. Stripped of everything. Cleaned, shaved and dewormed. Then spend a year in "custody" getting dry and learning a trade. No second chance. Ever.
In Japan there is no homeless problem. It's ILLEGAL to give money to the homeless. And they get help. |
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Sounds good, but there isn’t much money in jailing or fining people with no means.
Gonna cost the taxpayers a shit ton if they start arresting people for snoozing in a public space. Good luck. |
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Quoted: There is no belief in freedom on ARFCOM anymore. All of you are trading liberty to protect.....what exactly? Are we so stupid that we still resort to "If WE can't control it we should ban it!"?. All we ever do is outlaw things instead of solving the issues. What if they could apply for a $200.00 tax stamp, and in 9 months be allowed to lay down on the bench? Would you be OK with that? Any corrections officers that want to chime in? Are you ready to work intake? How many leo's just can't wait to log infor their shift now? Since yall don't have enough to do already. Just wait for all the prisoner transports with the windows down and the AC on high. But at least people won't see someone sleeping in front of Starbucks while they support the DNC by purchasing grande fraps latte ice tea. I have not read one post questioning how this may affect veterans. How many who support this wear Gadsden Flag t shirts, or flags on their Ford TRX Tundra? View Quote My VA employment has me amazed at the amount of money and resources available to veterans to prevent homelessness. For the large majority, it’s a lifestyle choice. Any veterans who are affected, can merely go to the nearest emergency room and take advantage of the vast system set up to help them. |
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Quoted:My VA employment has me amazed at the amount of money and resources available to veterans to prevent homelessness. For the large majority, it’s a lifestyle choice. Any veterans who are affected, can merely go to the nearest emergency room and take advantage of the vast system set up to help them. View Quote |
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Lots of edgelords here posting but not coming up with solutions.
The solutions offered in this thread aren't good either. How long can you keep a homeless person in a hospital psych ward? If they are legit crazy that would have to be indefinitely. Who will pay for that? Someone will. I don't know what sort of economic impact homeslls have in the streets but it will be a significant impact if they have to go to hospitals. There has to be other solutions? Besides some of the edgy responses already posted like shipping to Cali or worse |
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Hark!
That giant sucking sound is the bums leaving the Sunshine State. |
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I'm sure cops will get right on enforcing that.
Nothing like getting out of an air conditioned squad car to be into proximity with a smelly hobo and risk getting stabbed with a hobo knife. |
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Quoted: They would not want me in charge. Homelessness would be a felony. You'd be scooped up against your will. Stripped of everything. Cleaned, shaved and dewormed. Then spend a year in "custody" getting dry and learning a trade. No second chance. Ever. In Japan there is no homeless problem. It's ILLEGAL to give money to the homeless. And they get help. View Quote Holy shit this needs to be done. |
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Quoted: If I own a home then I'm ok to go camping with Steve under a bridge occasionally just for fun? If I am homeless how will I be punished get arrested and given a bed and roof over my head for a night? View Quote |
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