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Link Posted: 3/28/2024 10:58:27 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By XxbatraiderxX:

You can think for yourself but you will also have to compromise with others and choose, lest the choice be made for you.
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Originally Posted By XxbatraiderxX:
Originally Posted By AR-180:
I’m not unified with any politician. Each of us should be comfortable thinking for ourselves.

You can think for yourself but you will also have to compromise with others and choose, lest the choice be made for you.


Preaching compromise from others when your godhead wants to be treated as unquestionable? What compromise have you offered (hint: none)?
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 10:59:59 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By TxRabbitBane:


Preaching compromise from others when your godhead wants to be treated as unquestionable? What compromise have you offered (hint: none)?
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Originally Posted By TxRabbitBane:
Originally Posted By XxbatraiderxX:
Originally Posted By AR-180:
I’m not unified with any politician. Each of us should be comfortable thinking for ourselves.

You can think for yourself but you will also have to compromise with others and choose, lest the choice be made for you.


Preaching compromise from others when your godhead wants to be treated as unquestionable? What compromise have you offered (hint: none)?

You should passively resist Trump by arguing on the internet and by not voting.
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 11:00:23 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By XxbatraiderxX:

Yeah, if you vote for red down ballot and don't vote red for prez then you're just asking for unnecessary conflict and handing a narrative to democrats. And again, you're simply passing your voting power to your neighbor who is voting blue or red.
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Originally Posted By agillig:
Originally Posted By Dieselman:
A no vote for Trump is a yes vote for Biden.  Staying home and not voting for anybody is a yes vote for Biden.  
Which mirrors what Biden loyalists tell people straying from the Dem plantation to scare them into voting for Biden.  If you stay home, you're not voting for either one.  You're saying both candidates suck, and neither are worth your time.

Not participating allows the choice to be made for you. That is complacency.
Agreed, but the "If you don't vote for Trump, you're voting for Biden" argument is just stupid.  Because conversely, if you don't vote for Biden, doesn't that also mean you're voting for Trump?  It's a stupid, thoughtless argument that both sides make to whip their members into line.

I'm not going to make that argument. Not voting simply gives your voting power to your neighbor who votes. If neighbor is voting red and you cast your vote for red, that makes your state super red(fighting mad red). If you don't vote, that simply makes your state plain red(milquetoast weak red).



I may have missed it but I haven’t seen anyone in here state that they aren’t voting.  I’ve seen posters say they aren’t voting for fdjt or fjb.. but that doesn’t mean they aren’t voting for other races/state/local/congress or writing in for potus etc.


Yeah, if you vote for red down ballot and don't vote red for prez then you're just asking for unnecessary conflict and handing a narrative to democrats. And again, you're simply passing your voting power to your neighbor who is voting blue or red.



The rub here is that the R candidate for potus is a democrat in practice.
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 11:01:30 AM EDT
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Already didn't like the guy, but it was a definite nail in the coffin when he tried to steal the election.
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 11:02:19 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Quiganomics:
Because your gun rights will be much better off under Biden.

I get it, Trump isn't the Pro-2A candidate we want. I also don't think he's anti either. Really, I don't think he really gives a shit either way. The shit we saw in his first term was the work of the NRA, who he not being a gun guy himself, though was the voice of gun owners.

Will we see a push for more restrictions under Trump? Maybe but I doubt it. I think he's going to be too busy trying to get revenge on those who fucked him over to worry about guns.

Will we see a push for new laws under Biden? You bet your ass.

Trump isn't perfect, but he's what we got and is better than the alternative. This was the guy the majority of the right picked. Voting 3rd party does nothing but siphon votes and in the end, help Biden.

I'm not happy about him being the nominee either, but I also can see the bigger picture.
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Originally Posted By Quiganomics:
Originally Posted By TxRabbitBane:
I like being a gun owner. I like the Constitution.

Trump likes neither of those things.

I lack the beaten wife syndrome that is required to worship him.

If you're stupid enough, you consider a person like that a "commie", even though it has nothing in common with a communist.
Because your gun rights will be much better off under Biden.

I get it, Trump isn't the Pro-2A candidate we want. I also don't think he's anti either. Really, I don't think he really gives a shit either way. The shit we saw in his first term was the work of the NRA, who he not being a gun guy himself, though was the voice of gun owners.

Will we see a push for more restrictions under Trump? Maybe but I doubt it. I think he's going to be too busy trying to get revenge on those who fucked him over to worry about guns.

Will we see a push for new laws under Biden? You bet your ass.

Trump isn't perfect, but he's what we got and is better than the alternative. This was the guy the majority of the right picked. Voting 3rd party does nothing but siphon votes and in the end, help Biden.

I'm not happy about him being the nominee either, but I also can see the bigger picture.

What you fail to grasp is that my gun rights are the SAME under Biden as they are under Trump.

A candidate has to earn my vote by representing my interests. Neither presidential candidate does so.

Fuck them both.

People like you trot out the “he’s not perfect, but…” bullshit over and over.  Nobody demands perfection, just a basic respect for this country and its constitution.  Neither Trump nor Biden can claim that.  They’re both not only imperfect, they’re total shitshow pieces of crap… both of them.

Blaming Trump’s weakness on the NRA is equally stupid. Maybe you need to go back and review the things that have come out of his mouth on the subject.
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 11:03:19 AM EDT
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Yes, I am 110% behind DJT. Remember, "judge a man by his deeds, and not his words," keep in the the US-based mainstream media is vile, and will "lie through their collective teetth" to hurt DJt's chances for a comeback. Personally for me, IMHO the 2020 elections was stolen. Keep in mind everything he said in his MAGA has come true. And there is nary a mention of the historic meeting between DJT and NK's KJU at the Korean DMZ. FJoeBrandon.
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 11:04:03 AM EDT
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Is voting to win more important than voting one's principals? Is sacrificing one's principals to vote winning?
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 11:07:29 AM EDT
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The rub here is that the R candidate for potus is a democrat in practice.
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Originally Posted By XxbatraiderxX:
Originally Posted By agillig:
Originally Posted By Dieselman:
A no vote for Trump is a yes vote for Biden.  Staying home and not voting for anybody is a yes vote for Biden.  
Which mirrors what Biden loyalists tell people straying from the Dem plantation to scare them into voting for Biden.  If you stay home, you're not voting for either one.  You're saying both candidates suck, and neither are worth your time.

Not participating allows the choice to be made for you. That is complacency.
Agreed, but the "If you don't vote for Trump, you're voting for Biden" argument is just stupid.  Because conversely, if you don't vote for Biden, doesn't that also mean you're voting for Trump?  It's a stupid, thoughtless argument that both sides make to whip their members into line.

I'm not going to make that argument. Not voting simply gives your voting power to your neighbor who votes. If neighbor is voting red and you cast your vote for red, that makes your state super red(fighting mad red). If you don't vote, that simply makes your state plain red(milquetoast weak red).



I may have missed it but I haven’t seen anyone in here state that they aren’t voting.  I’ve seen posters say they aren’t voting for fdjt or fjb.. but that doesn’t mean they aren’t voting for other races/state/local/congress or writing in for potus etc.


Yeah, if you vote for red down ballot and don't vote red for prez then you're just asking for unnecessary conflict and handing a narrative to democrats. And again, you're simply passing your voting power to your neighbor who is voting blue or red.



The rub here is that the R candidate for potus is a democrat in practice.

That's not what democrats believe.

That is a contradiction from you. I don't know how you square it but it doesn't square.
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 11:13:35 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Vexed:
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Nope.
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 11:14:50 AM EDT
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What other choice is there at this point?
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 11:16:38 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By NattyLaw0044:
No, because only children look to others to fix their problems. I'm not behind any politician or anyone in government for that matter.
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The new guy gets it.
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 11:17:10 AM EDT
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Anyone not unified behind DJT might as well be a card-carrying democrat. It's obvious that the democrats want absolute power. That party has and will destroy the US. If you love your country or simply leaving children in this world , then you should care. You are deciding the future.
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 11:17:17 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By warlord:
Yes, I am 110% behind DJT. Remember, "judge a man by his deeds, and not his words," keep in the the US-based mainstream media is vile, and will "lie through their collective teetth" to hurt DJt's chances for a comeback. Personally for me, IMHO the 2020 elections was stolen. Keep in mind everything he said in his MAGA has come true. And there is nary a mention of the historic meeting between DJT and NK's KJU at the Korean DMZ. FJoeBrandon.
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Ok.

How should we judge a man who banned a firearm accessory? How are we to judge a man who sat with gun grabbers? How are we to judge a man who favored an "assault weapon" ban? How are we to judge a man who ran on the principles of the Constitution while making a mockery of the 2nd and 4th? How are we to judge a man who claims to be a 'devout Christian' yet can't name one book from the Bible? How are we to judge a man who uses the Bible as a money making scheme? How are we to judge a man who promised a "2A Coalition" and did the previously stated?

I can probably name a few more, but lets just start there.

ETA: bet this gets ignored like every other time.
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 11:18:49 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Glock031:
Anyone not unified behind DJT might as well be a card-carrying democrat. It's obvious that the democrats want absolute power. That party has and will destroy the US. If you love your country or simply leaving children in this world , then you should care. You are deciding the future.
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Remember the media is behind who we get to choose from. Including trump.
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 11:19:13 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Vexed:
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You're not sacrificing principles to vote for someone. Turn off the news telling you otherwise.

You're voting to put someone in a place that you cannot put yourself. You are simply saying "I vote for this guy/gal over the others". You're not saying "I pledge my principles for this guy/gal".

Leave your principles out of it.
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 11:19:36 AM EDT
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At this point there are no other options.

Cowabunga (Trump) it is.
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 11:19:59 AM EDT
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Well let’s see…..I could sit on my hands with my thumb up my ass and refuse to vote or do anything else to try and help fix the mess and then complain about how bad everything is while espousing how moral and upstanding I am for doing  nothing. Doesn’t seem too smart.

I think I’ll support Trump instead.

Was he my first choice this time around, NO. I thought DeSantis would be a better candidate and that someone younger than Trump would be better in the long term for the country and a good juxtaposition against an old, corrupt president Biden who cares more about money and power than the economy and people of the country.

Unfortunately DeSantis proved himself not ready for the job. The reasons for that are in dispute. They really don’t matter now though. He lost. Trump won. Get over it.

I used to play poker a lot. Sometimes you have to play the cards you are dealt or fold. I’m pushing my chips in and supporting Trump.
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 11:20:14 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By XxbatraiderxX:

You're not sacrificing principles to vote for someone. Turn off the news telling you otherwise.

You're voting to put someone in a place that you cannot put yourself. You are simply saying "I vote for this guy/gal over the others". You're not saying "I pledge my principles for this guy/gal".

Leave your principles out of it.
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Lol, no.
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 11:21:24 AM EDT
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And the fun part is when they start to cry muh Never Trumpers when people show up with opposing views.
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 11:22:23 AM EDT
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Since I don't feel compelled to split hairs or argue over syntax, in general yes.  Despite the TDS'ers claims, there are things about him I don't like, but I believe he's in the race for the good of the country, has more than enough incentive to try and turn things around, and is one of the most resilient public figures I know of.
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 11:22:31 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Charlie556:
Well let’s see…..I could sit on my hands with my thumb up my ass and refuse to vote or do anything else to try and help fix the mess and then complain about how bad everything is while espousing how moral and upstanding I am for doing  nothing. Doesn’t seem too smart.

I think I’ll support Trump instead.

Was he my first choice this time around, NO. I thought DeSantis would be a better candidate and that someone younger than Trump would be better in the long term for the country and a good juxtaposition against an old, corrupt president Biden who cares more about money and power than the economy and people of the country.

Unfortunately DeSantis proved himself not ready for the job. The reasons for that are in dispute. They really don’t matter now though. He lost. Trump won. Get over it.

I used to play poker a lot. Sometimes you have to play the cards you are dealt or fold. I’m pushing my chips in and supporting Trump.
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I have been voting since 1976, and this election is the absolute worst one. It has been going downhill with every choice. Nobody worth a shit is ever going to run again.
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 11:23:03 AM EDT
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He's a selfish moron who only cares about himself. He's the ultimate grifter.
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Link Posted: 3/28/2024 11:24:04 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Sandbowl1980:
Another Trump post for the N_T with TDS and liberal Biden supporter shills to shit on and attack anyone who supports a republican candidate over a left-wing Democratic Socialist.


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Well, you could always set up a Telegram for your pep rallies if you only want golden calf enthusiasts to show up.

You could also have spent a lot less of the last eight years going on about "you're a commie who doesn't want to make America great again" and "SYGL" and "you just don't understand NY real estate" and "4D chess" and "elevator shoes" every time someone questions one of your guy's shitty decisions. Or done something - anything - to rein in the people on your side who were like that towards other right-of-center or conservative voters when they went on the attack. And you'd get a lot less hostility from at least some of us.

But the record of what you people did speaks for itself.
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 11:26:54 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By ApacheScout:
This. I'm pretty sure everyone knows where everyone else here stands on who they are voting for. No one's changing their minds.
For the good of the site I think it's time for ALL political threads to be moved to the Political forum. If people want to argue about it, they can go there.
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Originally Posted By centrarchidae:
What an amazingly unique and original thread. This thread will lead to the free exchange of insights and ideas in an environment of mutual respect, and will foster a sense of camaraderie and bonhomie and general tiddlywink spirit among all of GD.
This. I'm pretty sure everyone knows where everyone else here stands on who they are voting for. No one's changing their minds.
For the good of the site I think it's time for ALL political threads to be moved to the Political forum. If people want to argue about it, they can go there.


Don't be a quitter.
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 11:27:36 AM EDT
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Yes.  He’s the best and only option if you desire to hold on to what limited freedoms we have left.  He’s far from perfect, but light years better than any democrat.
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 11:28:22 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By lorazepam:

Lol, no.
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Originally Posted By lorazepam:
Originally Posted By XxbatraiderxX:

You're not sacrificing principles to vote for someone. Turn off the news telling you otherwise.

You're voting to put someone in a place that you cannot put yourself. You are simply saying "I vote for this guy/gal over the others". You're not saying "I pledge my principles for this guy/gal".

Leave your principles out of it.

Lol, no.

Yes.

You're not running for office. No one cares about your principles. It isn't a life or death situation whether you vote for the guy that is the lesser of two evils. You don't have to decide whether they kill your dog or your wife. Just vote for one that you believe will bring the most positive change and has the best chance of winning.
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 11:29:02 AM EDT
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He's an idiot and a grifter and ultimately bad for the party.  But nobody wants him to win more than I do.
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 11:30:09 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Sandbowl1980:
Another Trump post for the N_T with TDS and liberal Biden supporter shills to shit on and attack anyone who supports a republican candidate over a left-wing Democratic Socialist.


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Link Posted: 3/28/2024 11:31:22 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By centrarchidae:


Don't be a quitter.
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Originally Posted By centrarchidae:
Originally Posted By ApacheScout:
Originally Posted By centrarchidae:
What an amazingly unique and original thread. This thread will lead to the free exchange of insights and ideas in an environment of mutual respect, and will foster a sense of camaraderie and bonhomie and general tiddlywink spirit among all of GD.
This. I'm pretty sure everyone knows where everyone else here stands on who they are voting for. No one's changing their minds.
For the good of the site I think it's time for ALL political threads to be moved to the Political forum. If people want to argue about it, they can go there.


Don't be a quitter.
Your right, I don't want to be like desantis.
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 11:32:08 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By XxbatraiderxX:

You're not sacrificing principles to vote for someone. Turn off the news telling you otherwise.

You're voting to put someone in a place that you cannot put yourself. You are simply saying "I vote for this guy/gal over the others". You're not saying "I pledge my principles for this guy/gal".

Leave your principles out of it.
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No.

Abandoning principles is how people become prohibited persons who can't own guns.
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 11:36:49 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By ApacheScout:
This. I'm pretty sure everyone knows where everyone else here stands on who they are voting for. No one's changing their minds.
For the good of the site I think it's time for ALL political threads to be moved to the Political forum. If people want to argue about it, they can go there.
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I agree with you for a change.
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 11:38:20 AM EDT
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No.

Abandoning principles is how people become prohibited persons who can't own guns.
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Originally Posted By JAD762:
Originally Posted By XxbatraiderxX:

You're not sacrificing principles to vote for someone. Turn off the news telling you otherwise.

You're voting to put someone in a place that you cannot put yourself. You are simply saying "I vote for this guy/gal over the others". You're not saying "I pledge my principles for this guy/gal".

Leave your principles out of it.


No.

Abandoning principles is how people become prohibited persons who can't own guns.

No one has ever abandoned their principles voting for a particular candidate for office.

It's absurd.
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 11:38:25 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By lorazepam:

I have been voting since 1976, and this election is the absolute worst one. It has been going downhill with every choice. Nobody worth a shit is ever going to run again.
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Originally Posted By Charlie556:
Well let’s see…..I could sit on my hands with my thumb up my ass and refuse to vote or do anything else to try and help fix the mess and then complain about how bad everything is while espousing how moral and upstanding I am for doing  nothing. Doesn’t seem too smart.

I think I’ll support Trump instead.

Was he my first choice this time around, NO. I thought DeSantis would be a better candidate and that someone younger than Trump would be better in the long term for the country and a good juxtaposition against an old, corrupt president Biden who cares more about money and power than the economy and people of the country.

Unfortunately DeSantis proved himself not ready for the job. The reasons for that are in dispute. They really don’t matter now though. He lost. Trump won. Get over it.

I used to play poker a lot. Sometimes you have to play the cards you are dealt or fold. I’m pushing my chips in and supporting Trump.

I have been voting since 1976, and this election is the absolute worst one. It has been going downhill with every choice. Nobody worth a shit is ever going to run again.

76 was my first vote as well. I agree. If we don’t get some exceptional candidates in the future I don’t expect things will get any better.
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 11:38:55 AM EDT
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I am in the burn it all down camp..Full accelerationist. So I guess no. Besides Trump said he didn't need our votes. I am taking his word at that.

Going by logic here by me not voting for someone means the other guy gets the vote..well rest easy because I am not voting for Biden so I guess Trump magically gets my vote somehow.

If one is voting because they see Trump as the lesser of 2 evils I can understand and wish them well. As far as the hardcore T$ cultists that think. He is an actual Conservative? Lol
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 11:39:53 AM EDT
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Supreme court nominations.

The N_T crowd will post all kinds of bullshit to get you to forget this part.

IMHO this is the most important thing the president does.

Trump isn't even close to perfect but you'll get proper nominations from the folks that hand him the names.
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 11:40:32 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By XxbatraiderxX:

You're not sacrificing principles to vote for someone. Turn off the news telling you otherwise.

You're voting to put someone in a place that you cannot put yourself. You are simply saying "I vote for this guy/gal over the others". You're not saying "I pledge my principles for this guy/gal".

Leave your principles out of it.
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I don't watch the news, it's all programming.

Leaving principals out of it is exactly how we have arrived at this shit show of a situation we are in as a country. Instead of paying attention to what subversives teach our kids, where corporations farm American jobs out to, What media programs us to accept as reality, we surrender to " at least he's not XXX" as our weapon of reprisal. It's weak and counter to what this republic was founded on. What we accept as conservative in 2024 would have been tarred and feathered in more righteous times. If winning is more important than principal, we aren't winning a damn thing.
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 11:41:23 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By XxbatraiderxX:

Yes.

You're not running for office. No one cares about your principles. It isn't a life or death situation whether you vote for the guy that is the lesser of two evils. You don't have to decide whether they kill your dog or your wife. Just vote for one that you believe will bring the most positive change and has the best chance of winning.
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So your principals mean nothing to you? They both fucking suck and neither has my principals or best interests in mind. One is a dementia patient who has no clue what is going on, and the other is a loose cannon with no real morals, and is out for what is best for him.
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 11:45:38 AM EDT
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I voted "no" becasue I think he's an asshole. I am not "unified" with him.

But I have and will continue to vote for him. The liberal left commie cocksuckers are way worse than his personality flaws.
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 11:45:39 AM EDT
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I agree with you for a change.
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Originally Posted By ApacheScout:
This. I'm pretty sure everyone knows where everyone else here stands on who they are voting for. No one's changing their minds.
For the good of the site I think it's time for ALL political threads to be moved to the Political forum. If people want to argue about it, they can go there.



I agree with you for a change.

Link Posted: 3/28/2024 11:47:04 AM EDT
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I don't believe he's a savior, but commies hate him and I hate them, so...
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 11:48:58 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By NattyLaw0044:
No, because only children look to others to fix their problems. I'm not behind any politician or anyone in government for that matter.
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What are you doing to fix anything?
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 11:51:19 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By XxbatraiderxX:

No one has ever abandoned their principles voting for a particular candidate for office.

It's absurd.
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Yeah, your background tells me that I should do the opposite of what you say when it comes to principles.

Link Posted: 3/28/2024 11:53:51 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By XxbatraiderxX:

That's not what democrats believe.

That is a contradiction from you. I don't know how you square it but it doesn't square.
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A no vote for Trump is a yes vote for Biden.  Staying home and not voting for anybody is a yes vote for Biden.  
Which mirrors what Biden loyalists tell people straying from the Dem plantation to scare them into voting for Biden.  If you stay home, you're not voting for either one.  You're saying both candidates suck, and neither are worth your time.

Not participating allows the choice to be made for you. That is complacency.
Agreed, but the "If you don't vote for Trump, you're voting for Biden" argument is just stupid.  Because conversely, if you don't vote for Biden, doesn't that also mean you're voting for Trump?  It's a stupid, thoughtless argument that both sides make to whip their members into line.

I'm not going to make that argument. Not voting simply gives your voting power to your neighbor who votes. If neighbor is voting red and you cast your vote for red, that makes your state super red(fighting mad red). If you don't vote, that simply makes your state plain red(milquetoast weak red).



I may have missed it but I haven’t seen anyone in here state that they aren’t voting.  I’ve seen posters say they aren’t voting for fdjt or fjb.. but that doesn’t mean they aren’t voting for other races/state/local/congress or writing in for potus etc.


Yeah, if you vote for red down ballot and don't vote red for prez then you're just asking for unnecessary conflict and handing a narrative to democrats. And again, you're simply passing your voting power to your neighbor who is voting blue or red.



The rub here is that the R candidate for potus is a democrat in practice.

That's not what democrats believe.

That is a contradiction from you. I don't know how you square it but it doesn't square.

Democrats believe a lot of silly things that aren’t true.  So do trump cultists.
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 11:54:23 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By XxbatraiderxX:

You're not sacrificing principles to vote for someone. Turn off the news telling you otherwise.

You're voting to put someone in a place that you cannot put yourself. You are simply saying "I vote for this guy/gal over the others". You're not saying "I pledge my principles for this guy/gal".

Leave your principles out of it.
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It'd be nice if the candidate you're talking about had any principles of his own.
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 11:54:41 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Dance:
Are you unified behind/with Donald Trump?
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Sort of.  I was for him early because I thought he was our best chance to make a change.    I soured on him pretty badly because he fucking lied to us about guns.   I still think he's our best chance to change things if we still have a chance and will reluctantly vote for him but it really irks me to vote for an anti gun asshole.   I wish I had a real choice.

Link Posted: 3/28/2024 11:55:00 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Hill_monkey:
Not unified/behind any politician.
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This. I don’t like any of them.

But I dislike commies, so I’ll happily vote against them.
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 11:59:21 AM EDT
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We had a primary and the voters have spoken, Trump is the nominee.  Get your head right with the reality of it.

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We had a primary and the voters have spoken, Trump is the nominee.  Get your head right with the reality of it.




This.  He isn't perfect.  I'll be voting for him anyway.
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 12:02:01 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Quiganomics:
There's several reasons. It's rigged to not allow any other serious candidates, the amount of money that is required to run, the need for media coverage to be able to reach voters, etc, etc.

Do I like it? Nope. But it is what it is, vote 3rd party and think you're some kind of revolutionary, hopefully that gives you some solace. Been hearing from third party voters that their vote will matter IF they get enough of the vote. That's a fallacy, and they've never came close to being an actual contender, closest being Perot in '92, and he took 1 state. Wow. There's other candidates but ultimately it's Trump vs. Biden. I may not agree with Trump on everything he does, but I can't afford another 4 years of Biden.

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Sure, you and Tom Thumb.
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 12:02:09 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Dance:
Are you unified behind/with Donald Trump?
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What does that mean? I assume something more than voting for him?

Donate money?
Volunteer for the campaign?
Knock on doors?
Work the phones?
Ballot harvest?
Shitpost on social media?
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