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Posted: 3/28/2024 5:07:31 PM EDT
[#1]
The fellas just wanna look cool and have fun. Fellas can't have fun anymore?
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Posted: 3/28/2024 5:10:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: RealityCheck0311]
[#2]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GrizzlyAdams: A palm tree with skull and crossbones? I’m outraged. At least it wasn’t Pepe the racist frog. Marine STA platoons were getting their hands slapped in the 80s for similar stuff. None of it's new. They know exactly what they're doing. Pirate skull and crossbones? Okay. Generic skull? Okay. The very specific angled Totenkopf SS "Death's Head" skull? You're asking for trouble and drama. Marine Snipers used to do the exact same thing with "SS" for Scout Sniper. Basically you could use any font for "SS" (Scout Sniper) and not get into trouble. But if you pick the specific Nazi SS Lightning Bolts, you're asking for trouble and drama. When I was in, the rules for our platoon t-shirts were simple: No SS Lightning Bolts or the Totenkopf SS unit skull because of past issues with those two symbols only. Those two were the only designs that were banned. Anything else was fine. No one cares about skulls and crossbones, pirate patches, etc.. They only care if it's a very specific design relating to a very specific Nazi SS unit. |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 5:20:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Inneedofhelp: In this day and age I could see any patch or emblem with a palm tree being linked to them though.  |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 5:33:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: The dive gear had white great white sharks https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_2055_jpeg-3172046.JPG Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: Originally Posted By USMCTanker: White is right The dive gear had white great white sharks https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_2055_jpeg-3172046.JPG I have a coin (dual-use beer bottle opener, actually) that was given to me from an ODA that was scuba designated. It’s shaped like a shark. The original ODA was stood down after CPT H. died in a jump and these guys picked up the training of an allied SF unit (which had its own humorous moments) at the last minute. ODAs in general are some of my favorites to work with: very professional, yet not institutionalized. Free thinkers and innovative they are. |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 5:41:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By USMCTanker: I have a coin (dual-use beer bottle opener, actually) that was given to me from an ODA that was scuba designated. It’s shaped like a shark. The original ODA was stood down after CPT H. died in a jump and these guys picked up the training of an allied SF unit (which had its own humorous moments) at the last minute. ODAs in general are some of my favorites to work with: very professional, yet not institutionalized. Free thinkers and innovative they are. My last deployment had me embedded with an ODA team from 3rd group. By far, they were my favorite group to be attached to for those same reasons. |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 6:08:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Dru]
[#6]
Do they still give out the Larry Thorne Award?
Who was Larry Thorne for 100 alex! 
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Posted: 3/28/2024 6:22:00 PM EDT
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I see no problem in appropriating the heraldry of your defeated enemy. It’s the ultimate war trophy.
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Posted: 3/28/2024 6:24:52 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/28/2024 6:26:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: -OdieGreen-]
[#9]
Who wears black and red, wants socialism, and wants to see Jews eradicated?
Leftists. The answer is modern day pink hair, Antifa, Palestine loving, grooming, gay leftists. It’s only a matter of time before we see gay flags with swastikas on them at this rate. |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 6:37:37 PM EDT
[#10]
Nothing new.
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Posted: 3/28/2024 6:48:25 PM EDT
[#11]
I don’t care for NAZI’s, especially Illinois NAZI’s but I think those patches are cool as hell. My great uncle bombed those sand NAZI’s and I am ok with that but I bet he would think they were neat designs as well.
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Posted: 3/28/2024 6:56:09 PM EDT
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US Marines in OIF
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Posted: 3/28/2024 7:09:38 PM EDT
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 Don't tell them about the psa ak mag logo |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 7:13:33 PM EDT
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Good thing he didn't have a "Deus Vult" patch.
 Attached File"Deus vult has been adopted by a slogan by a variety of alt-right and white supremacist groups.[6][7] This usage was disseminated widely online,[7] though hashtags and internet memes.[6] Crusader memes (such as an image of a Knight Templar accompanied by the caption "I'll see your jihad and raise you one crusade") are popular on far-right internet pages.[23] It is one of several pieces of Crusader imagery used by far-right Christian nationalists and dominionists.[24] By co-opting the slogans and iconography of the European medieval period, racist movements in the U.S. intend to evoke a fantasy of a "pure" white European heritage, a nostalgic view that is historically inaccurate, and has been denounced by medievalist scholars as a gross distortion of history.[6][7][dubious – discuss] The "Deus vult" slogan was used by the perpetrators of Right-wing terrorism; it was repeatedly used by the perpetrator of the 2017 Quebec City mosque shooting[25] and was one of the tattoos on the body of the perpetrator of the 2023 Allen, Texas outlet mall shooting.[26] It was among the slogans and symbols used during the violent far-right riot in Charlottesville, Virginia in 2017.[27] The slogan, as well as other Knights Templar imagery, has also been associated with far-right subgroups in the U.S. that merge Christian nationalism with gun culture; a Florida gun manufacturer engraved the slogan on its "Crusader" model of AR-15-style rifle.[28] The motto is also used by Christian nationalist groups in Europe; it was portrayed on large banners carried by far-right marchers in 2017 in Warsaw, Poland.[24][29][30]" |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 7:14:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: CenterMass762]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CavScout: I don’t care for NAZI’s, especially Illinois NAZI’s but I think those patches are cool as hell. My great uncle bombed those sand NAZI’s and I am ok with that but I bet he would think they were neat designs as well. 20th Group hasn't been in IL for like a decade, unless something has changed recently. |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 7:14:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11boomboom]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: Some other examples https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_2046_jpeg-3172021.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_2048_jpeg-3172022.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_2047_jpeg-3172023.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_2049_jpeg-3172025.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_2053_jpeg-3172052.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_2052_jpeg-3172053.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_2054_jpeg-3172054.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_2059_jpeg-3172055.JPG The SCUBA team one is pretty funny. The Totenkopf was used on SF team t-shirts and patches for a long time. I remember them in team rooms in the 90s. |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 7:16:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ClayHollisterTT: It is definitely WWII German inspired. Afrika Korp was definitely a serious enemy worthy of a degree of respect. Of course it is not acceptable in clown world. This. Rommel and those German kids were some tough hombres. |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 7:19:16 PM EDT
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I found their favorite cadence.
 German Soldier's Song - "Erika" (with English Subtitles) |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 7:19:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CavScout: I don’t care for NAZI’s, especially Illinois NAZI’s but I think those patches are cool as hell. My great uncle bombed those sand NAZI’s and I am ok with that but I bet he would think they were neat designs as well. The correct terminology would be sand Wehrmacht. Nazis were a political party. |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 7:19:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spork: I found their favorite cadence.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcVb6l4TpHwGood song. Inappropriately attributed to WW2 Germany. |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 7:29:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Commando223: In before Putin declares a special military operation to de-nazify the Alabama national guard. Yeah, he just thinks Ukraine is butt fuckin' his army. If the ruskies whipped our guard units, and that's a mighty big if, this is still Ala-fuckin'-Bama. We got this. 
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Posted: 3/28/2024 7:30:45 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/28/2024 7:42:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GrizzlyAdams: A palm tree with skull and crossbones? I’m outraged. At least it wasn’t Pepe the racist frog. A palm tree with Pepe might sell surprisingly well. Solid patch idea. |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 9:16:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Commando223: In before Putin declares a special military operation to de-nazify the Alabama national guard. Flag flown on Russian armored unit when they invaded Georgia.  |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 9:19:39 PM EDT
[#25]
Pretty sure I saw a Marine unit using the Afrika Korps palm tree in Iraq circa 2007
zero fucks given |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 9:20:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AbleArcher: The fellas just wanna look cool and have fun. Fellas can't have fun anymore? |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 9:23:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Alien]
[#27]
The Nazis had eagles as part of their symbology too after they copied the Romans. I guess eagles are evil too!!
 It's hilarious how big a deal is made out of somebody wearing a fucking piece of fabric with a drawing on it. There's no allegiance implied by a young guy to a destroyed state from 80 years ago because he's wearing what he thought was a cool logo that belonged to a unit from said destroyed state. I scoffed at that idiot that graduated from the Army or Naval academy and had a hammer and sickle flag under his cap, but that is arguably worse because it WAS the flag of the Soviet Union and he DOES have allegiance to their ideology. Did anything happen to him? |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 9:23:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GrizzlyAdams: A palm tree with skull and crossbones? I’m outraged. At least it wasn’t Pepe the racist frog. Looks like a totenkoph to me.  Attached File |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 9:24:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Billybob2002: Okay, but it was made infamous by the Nazis. The Afrika Korps logo and the Totenkopf were combined to make a patch. So, I doubt he was honoring Napoleonic era soldiers. Big fucking deal. I doubt it was done because of nazis or racism. People can fuck off with their projections. |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 9:24:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mazawakhan: Looks like a totenkoph to me. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/113974/IMG_4215_png-3172333.JPG So? Totenkompf is pre-Nazi |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 9:26:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By macaho45: The Totenkopf was around long before the SS. So was the swastika. |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 9:31:44 PM EDT
[#32]
Nazis everywhere destroying our country.....meanwhile in congress, the ballot box, injustice department and at the southern border.....everything is just fine
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Posted: 3/28/2024 9:31:50 PM EDT
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Used the palm tree with a camel on an ODA hat back in ‘03 - nothing racist or nazi about it… we were in the desert, it was cool.
SF has used the skull since the VN Mike Force. |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 9:34:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Inneedofhelp: Ignorance can be a hilarious thing. This reminds me of when the British National Party, which opposes immigration in general, including from Poland, used an image of some fighters, Spitfires or Hurricanes probably, with the unit markings of a Polish fighter unit flying for the Brits. California Afrika Corps? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Inneedofhelp: Originally Posted By PaladinM1911: But when the left loves Nazis it's okay, Jon Stewart and the Pentagon honor Ukrainian Nazi at Disney World Ignorance can be a hilarious thing. This reminds me of when the British National Party, which opposes immigration in general, including from Poland, used an image of some fighters, Spitfires or Hurricanes probably, with the unit markings of a Polish fighter unit flying for the Brits. Originally Posted By California_Kid: An old friend of mine had a version of this stenciled on the driver side door of his camouflage VW Thing. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/1087/ca_corps-3172057.gif California Afrika Corps? California Beach Combers |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 9:36:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Commando223: In before Putin declares a special military operation to de-nazify the Alabama national guard.  Bigger_Hammer 
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Posted: 3/28/2024 9:37:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bama-Shooter: Flag flown on Russian armored unit when they invaded Georgia. https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/v492/Bamashooter/ARFCOM/.highres/20170921_170746_zpsvjefaigh.jpg Gives Marching Through Georgia a new meaning.
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Posted: 3/28/2024 9:38:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RealityCheck0311: Marine STA platoons were getting their hands slapped in the 80s for similar stuff. None of it's new. They know exactly what they're doing. Pirate skull and crossbones? Okay. Generic skull? Okay. The very specific angled Totenkopf SS "Death's Head" skull? You're asking for trouble and drama. Marine Snipers used to do the exact same thing with "SS" for Scout Sniper. Basically you could use any font for "SS" (Scout Sniper) and not get into trouble. But if you pick the specific Nazi SS Lightning Bolts, you're asking for trouble and drama. When I was in, the rules for our platoon t-shirts were simple: No SS Lightning Bolts or the Totenkopf SS unit skull because of past issues with those two symbols only. Those two were the only designs that were banned. Anything else was fine. No one cares about skulls and crossbones, pirate patches, etc.. They only care if it's a very specific design relating to a very specific Nazi SS unit. I was not in at the time, that came several years later, but I have disposable camera pictures somewhere of a Pendleton squadbay in the late 90's-very early 2000's era and there are like 2 foot tall SS runes and various sniper art on the outside&inside of the building. People didnt get their panties in a bunch over any random thing back then though. It was pretty obvious they were SS lightning bolts though. |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 9:40:24 PM EDT
[#38]
Yall ready for the new CBT now
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Posted: 3/28/2024 9:54:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Alien: The Nazis had eagles as part of their symbology too after they copied the Romans. I guess eagles are evil too!! It's hilarious how big a deal is made out of somebody wearing a fucking piece of fabric with a drawing on it. There's no allegiance implied by a young guy to a destroyed state from 80 years ago because he's wearing what he thought was a cool logo that belonged to a unit from said destroyed state. I scoffed at that idiot that graduated from the Army or Naval academy and had a hammer and sickle flag under his cap, but that is arguably worse because it WAS the flag of the Soviet Union and he DOES have allegiance to their ideology. Did anything happen to him? Exactly. Blackbeard murdered the fuck out of people and started an alliance of pirates who were all murderous, thieving criminals but it's cool for guys to wear patches of his flag. Probably because the flag looks cool and THEY'RE NOT FUCKING PIRATES. |
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